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Honest Government Ad | Israel & Gaza 🇮🇱 🇵🇸 (Patreon)

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2023-10-27 06:10:19
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2023-10-27 06:12:58
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Dear Patrons

Here is our latest Honest Government Ad: Israel & Gaza

Thank you to all the Patrons who sent me thoughts and feedback on the preview a few days ago - both supportive and critical. This helped me to make some changes to the script, and to the visuals, to address the valid points raised. I really appreciate it. As I said when I shared the preview, it's hard to say anything about what’s happening without pissing someone off. But it's even harder to remain silent in the face of what’s happening. I am deeply inspired by the voices of humanity and reason amid the chaos - so I chose to amplify those of these Israeli and Palestinian writers, whose words I hope you will read below. 👉 Inspired by Daniel Levy & Zaha Hassan 👉 And by Yuval Noah Harari Our hearts go out to all those who have lost family and friends, regardless of nationality. Thank you for supporting our work - even when we venture into treacherous terrain like this. And if our opinions differ, I hope we can always meet in the common ground of truth and humanity. Which is where I have tried to pitch the tent of this Honest Government Ad. Giordano & team Link to Youtube video

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Honest Government Ad | Israel & Gaza 🇮🇱 🇵🇸

The Government™ has made an ad about what's happening in Israel & Gaza and it's surprisingly honest and informative. 👉 Inspired by Daniel Levy & Zaha Hassan: https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/10/14/daniel-levy-and-zaha-hassan-outside-world-must-walk-israel-back-from-the-abyss-it-cannot-be-part-of-the-choir-of-incitement 👉 And Yuval Noah Harari: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/24/yuval-noah-harari-backs-critique-of-leftist-indifference-to-hamas-atrocities 👉 Ways you can support us to keep making videos: 🔹 Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/TheJuiceMedia 🔹 Other ways: https://www.thejuicemedia.com/support 👉 CREDITS 🔹 Written by Giordano for The Juice Media 🔹 Performed by Zoë Amanda Wilson | Voice by Lucy 🔹 Thanks to Antony Loewestein for thoughts and advice: https://twitter.com/antloewenstein 🔹 Thanks to Adso, Dbot, Chris, Debi, Eva, Medhi, Cliff and our Patrons for feedback and advice 🔸 PODCAST: https://www.thejuicemedia.com/podcast 🔸 PG VERSIONS: https://www.thejuicemedia.com/teachers 🔸 STORE: https://shop.thejuicemedia.com

Comments

Dave Sag

I just watched the YouTube version of this and the video and audio are quite out of sync. Otherwise I think you hit the nail fairly on the head.

Marc Pengryffyn

Perfectly balanced message, perfectly delivered. I especially like 'Enshittenment' - as a contrast to the enlightenment it encapsulates our era well!

Ugly One

Israel is doing in Palestine exactly as did the Nazis in Europe 85 odd years ago.

Adolfo

Thank you for this! The killing needs to stop

Ewan McEwan

A tricky subject to cover - you did it very well. Let's hope the killing on all sides stops soon.

Mark william lane

Umm , well did you notice all the people of Israel in the streets protesting Netanyahu’s reasonableness claim. You know, run Israel like an Old Testament theocracy shit! Funny how Hamas that was started with full approval from Israel attacks just as the world notices the theocracy shit in the supposed only Democracy in the Middle East. I know “Conspiracy theory” is a mental illness but it might explain a lot if only it had credibility. #BDS, REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY. Keep up the great work on such delicate topics as the apocalypse, thanks again from NYC

Alan Marel

Well done Giordano. Brilliant handling of an extremely volatile subject, where there are no winners amongst the civilian populations.

Benjamin Bollen

Great video, it captures what needs to be said, and repeated loudly in a perfect balance. I was already a fan of your channel, but here you've stepped up to the next level. Amazing work, and thanks for creating it, so that it can be shared!

Jayjay Swiny

Thank you for expressing the conflicting emotions in our minds, and the conflicting solutions which rely on the history of cause and effect of Occupation.

Amos Shapira

Ever noticed any demonstrations against the Hamas in Gaza? No? That's because they threw their rivals (and gays, and anyone who winked in the wrong way) off the roofs back when they took control around about 2007. There were huge demonstrations against the Israeli government BECAUSE it's still not a theocracy and the demonstrators are trying to stop it from becoming one.

Mark william lane

Stanley Louis Cohen who is a lawyer and Jewish travels regularly to Palestine as well as Chris Hedges . I’ll listen to them, both well educated and there are more over your seemingly racist opinion no offense but for 71 years Israel has been in total control and can’t seem to fix anything while getting billions of dollars from America , where is the funding for the Palestinians? Ever see the documentary “The Gatekeepers” , lol. Right

Mark D Larsen

Well done, Giordano! Zoë's expressions were spot on! It really is hard to believe that so many of our species are still clinging so hard to Bronze Age fables that they're willing to murder innocent civilians.

Justin T. Thurn

You did it, Giordano. Not that I'm surprised. And look around your tent. See how many others are there?

Vicki Hester

Great job. You made so many good choices with this to keep the focus where it should be. All three. At the same time

Drew Hammond

Nice job! Here's to holding 3 truths in your head.

John Simister

Thanks, JuiceMedia. It's a horrible subject for one of your videos; but the world can't look away from events which are so harmful.

thejuicemedia

Weird - it looks okay on our end (apart from the usual small sync issues)... I've found sometimes online videos can be out of sync for other reasons... have you tried on another device / browser?

thejuicemedia

Thanks Marc! We might make more Enshittenment episodes - lord knows there's a few examples to cover

thejuicemedia

You're welcome Benjamin - thanks to you and all our Patrons for making it possible to create it!

thejuicemedia

Yes :) Thanks for your encouragement Justin, it helped a lot.

thejuicemedia

Thank you Vicki. It was tempting to try and say more, to venture further out. But every time i tried, i ended up coming back to these three truths - i'm not sure where to go from there tbh, but surely that's where we need to congregate before going further. That, and stopping the killing of civilians and children in Gaza

Richard Barnes

I was concerned that this would be grief you didn't need. But congratulations to you for being brave enough to tackle it, and double congratulations for modifying your usual style to suit the topic and for giving us the three key truths so powerfully. (Perhaps the excellent essay by Levy and Hassan would have sufficed for background wisdom)

Anna Englin

What a puerile, poorly researched piece of 'bullshit propaganda'. Israel withdrew from Gaza 18 years ago. For the last 18 years Gaza has NOT been occupied by Israel.Throughout that time Israel has provided Gaza with water, electricity, health services and other humanitarian aid. This is despite the fact that Gaza has been under the control of Hamas since 2007. Hamas is a terrorist organisation that kills and tortures its own citizens. It embeds its military operations within schools, hospitals and residential buildings, thereby using civilians as human shields. Juice Media, you have forever lost my support for spreading such misinformation.

Robert Bismuth

Given all the sensitivities around so many of the "shit locations" in the world, you pulled off quite the balanced video - demonstrating the amazing ability of theJuicemedia team. (I particularly liked the rapid fire images of, as you would call it, shitfuckeries and shitfuckers. Made my day to see Elon included as he's certainly responsible for quite a few unhinged things.) One minor quibble: the disinformation pushed out into the press does not, in my mind, cause all this. It is more the way of justifying it or refocusing people onto irrelevant points - often not even factual. That sustains whatever shitfuckery is being reported on ... as opposed to causing it in the first place. The tired old geezers clinging to power are usually the causal elements as they are really good at whipping up emotions, particularly irrational, nationalistic hatred, through disinformation.

Justin T. Thurn

That's a good point, Robert. Thanks for noting an important subtlety at work. I reckoned Giordano was riffing on the idea of Chomsky's five filters, Arendt's enchantment with success, or Lippmann's "bewildered herd". That mass media is our immediate interface with power, so -- from the bottom of the pyramid anyway -- they are the immediate source of distorted perception. Angry old fuckwits are at the tip of the pyramid flowing shit down the slope. Mass media uses their position part way down to add mono-flavour and pump that shit over everything below in a nice, even coating. We look up and can kinda see the nozzles labeled "LULZ Network" or some such, and in the process ingest some of the mono-flavoured bullshit. If all goes to plan we ask for more.

thejuicemedia

Hi Anna, I can't argue with you if you didn't like our latest HGA, but I can certainly defend against your claim here that we "spread misinformation" re: Israel's occupation of Palestine, of which Gaza is a part. Of course you are free to believe whatever you like - and to end your support of our work over those beliefs. But for anyone else here wondering whether our work is indeed "poorly researched", I'd like to reassure you that accuracy and solid research are my priority and I take this extremely seriously in all of my HGAs - especially sensitive ones such as this one. So firstly, you can confirm for yourself that Gaza is defined as being part of the "Palestinian *Occupied* Territories" with a simple search on wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories) or any other independent entity such as the UN or even the US State Department (https://www.state.gov/reports/2016-report-on-international-religious-freedom/israel-and-the-occupied-territories/israel-and-the-occupied-territories-the-occupied-territories/). Yes, Israel withdrew troops from Gaza in 2005 but that doesn't mean it left Gaza to be free and self-determinant - which is the *definition of NOT being occupied*. This blockade - in which Israel sealed off Gaza from the outside world, turning it into an open air prison and preventing normal trade with the outside world - has long been considered a form of collective punishment and illegal under international law: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-un-gaza-rights-idUSTRE78C59R20110913 Yes, Israel provided Gaza with water, electricity etc - but that's not charity: that's a necessary part of Israel's illegal blockade / occupation of Gaza; for if Gaza were truly free and not occupied, it would have its own ways of obtaining water, electricity aid etc. Moreover, the water in Gaza was almost entirely polluted; most people lived with food insecurity; a third of Gaza's arable land and most of its fishing waters are inaccessible due to IDF measures - and so much more, which you can verify in this UN report: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2011/09/how-can-israels-blockade-gaza-be-legal-un-independent-experts-palmer-report Should I have used "blockade" instead of "occupation" in order to address this critique? No, that would be minimising the broader context of the conflict, which the HGA defines as being Israel's occupation of Palestine (which as mentioned includes not just the West Bank and East Jerusalem, but also the Gaza Strip). Should I have gone into more detail on this to make that point clear? Perhaps. The reason I didn't, is what makes the HGA format work: simplifying some things helps make it easier for people to understand, knowing that we back up that simplicity with accurate research. You can totally criticise the HGAs for that approach - but that does not mean it's "misinformation" or "poorly researched". I'd like to end by saying that NONE of this of detracts from our condemnation of Hamas's actions - and the empathy we have with victims and their families - which is clearly stated in our HGA. And that's because, as the video makes clear, we can and should hold all three of those truths simultaneously: that Hamas's attacks were inhumane and illegal; that Israel's collective punishment of Gaza for those attacks is inhumane and illegal; and that both occured within the context of an *occupation* that is inhumane and illegal.

thejuicemedia

Thank you Robert for these thoughts! (And also Justin for yours). Are you referring to where the HGA says "...bullshit propaganda - of which we and the media are primary disseminators"? If so, I didn't mean for this to come across as "the press causes all this", but rather that it is a vehicle for it's dissemination (as illustrated in the examples shown in the following scene with WMDs, "Special military operation" and so on). I'm not one of those condemning the media and press in general, which often do incredible work out there under v difficult circumstances, but when war breaks out, there is often a tendency for the press to become a disseminator of unverified state propaganda. And in retrospect, maybe I should have made that point a bit clearer. So thanks for the feedback!

thejuicemedia

Thank you Richard. It certainly is, but the thought of remaining silent to avoid that grief, would have caused far more grief!

Anna Englin

This lengthy diatribe is an excellent demonstration of the biased misrepresentation of reality so commonly observed in media coverage of Israel. Reader, if you've come this far to seek holistic understanding of the situation I thank you. In the interest of brevity I'll provide just one example of the errors in the above response. A UN panel of inquiry has found the blockade of Gaza to be legal, https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/720841?ln=en. Every restriction Israel has ever imposed on Gaza since its total withdrawal in 2005 has been solely in response to terrorist attacks from Hamas, who took control of Gaza in 2007 and have held no elections since. Hamas is an openly genocidal terrorist organisation, which declares in its charter, 'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them'. Hamas criminalised abortion, causing the deaths of many Palestinian women in their attempts to terminate pregnancy using dangerous methods, criminalised same-sex acts, uses its citizens as human shields and diverts humanitarian funding to its military goals. It is sad that so many Western people who view themselves as progressive blindly champion the 'Palestinian cause'. In their one-sided criticism of Israel, they are playing directly into the hands of Hamas, an organisation which has no respect for human rights, Jewish, Palestinian or otherwise. Please reflect on your gullibility and do better.

thejuicemedia

Hi Anna, I took the time to respond to your serious, unfounded accusations, yet you characterise my reply as a "lengthy diatribe". Are you suggesting I should have responded without providing reasons or references? Since brevity is what you're actually after, I'll just provide links to the many, current and comprehensive legal assessments of Israel's blockade of Gaza - rather than the cherry-picked example you found from over 12 years ago relating to a specific aspect of the blackade: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip#Legality_of_the_blockade - https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2011/09/how-can-israels-blockade-gaza-be-legal-un-independent-experts-palmer-report - https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/israel-opt-israel-must-lift-illegal-and-inhumane-blockade-on-gaza-as-power-plant-runs-out-of-fuel/ I've already clearly condemned the actions of Hamas, so I won't addres this again, as your "lengthy diatribe" about their actions here is starting to feel like trolling. PS. you said we've "lost your support forever". Since this Patreon site is for the use of people who support us, not those who feel we are spreading "misinformation" and "bullshit propaganda", I would encourage you to cancel your membership rather than spamming our Patreon page. You can do so here here: patreon.com/pledges You are of course very welcome to remain here if you feel you would like to continue supporting our work. But if you're just using this platform to troll and spam, I'll be forced to cancel your membership for you.

Anna Englin

I won't invest any more time in educating you when your responses are biased and abusive. I requested cancellation of my membership as soon as your latest video was released but have not received a reply.

thejuicemedia

Nowhere have I abused you, on the contrary I've responded to your posts civilly and respectfully, despite the many deprecating comments you've made about me and my work. When Patrons want to cancel their membership they don't need to request me to cancel it for them. I have no way of doing so other than blocking you. I would prefer not to block you, so please take the time to cancel your own membership at the link I provided: patreon.com/pledges If you'd like me to block you, let me know and I'll do so. I wish you well Anna, thank you for your support to date.

Robert Bismuth

Sorry for the delay - traveling in Europe at the moment ... Yes, that was the line that triggered my comment. I think it implied some collusion when I heard it the first time. I personally think that's not quite the case but it is more a case of thoughtlessness and, depending on the media channel, bias to report what "fits" with that bias. A good example of this is CNN's reporting on the civil trial testimony by Trump where CNN, likely thinking they were showing him in a bad light, actually gave him the perfect platform to amplify his bullshit without containing it or at least positioning it prior to letting him blast on. Effectively, they helped create a platform moment for him to exploit which they likely did not mean to do but didn't think it through. (I use it as an example as it is a completely unrelated example of what I think you are getting at.)