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This sequence would've ran when Dorothy entered Walky/Booster's room, and I got two strips in before realizing I was gonna miss some things I wanted to get to and I was also getting to things I wanted to get to in the wrong way.

Walky starts out pretty snarky, and as he notes, he's lashing out a bit. Just getting mad and then noting why he's mad! Creating conflict and immediately closing it out. Thanks, Walky! That was a fun 3 panels where you're just out-right telling us what you're thinking! And besides, when Walky last had Dorothy thoughts, it was about reacting to her drunken Instagram with Joyce. I felt leading with acknowledging that instead was a better transition, as it keeps things together instead of just throwing out emotional acknowledgements of things.

 But first I penciled this one out, too. Again, Walky's just kind of being more direct than is amusing to me, I think, with his "what about YOUR autism" that feels a bit too strong. And then he lists all the cast members he thinks are also autistic, because we're just friggin' throwing out any subtlety here, we're just naming shit out-right. This strip is being written as if my primary mission is to provide information for a Walkypedia article. Nope nope nope nope nope nope let's start over.

So I started over, threw that Instagram acknowledgement in there, and then IMMEDIATELY GOT THEM OUT OF DODGE, because I actually wanted this scene to be on top of the Meaningful Snowhill rather than drawn out and spinning its wheels directly in front of Booster. And I was happy that I was able to do it in a way that made me laugh.

And then I was able to hit a lot of the same moments I wanted, but without, like, you know, directly just friggin' stating them. Tried to do it with a little more art, rather than going down the checklist of things I wanted said and having them said.

i do still, however, think it'd be funny if amber were autistic but amazi-girl isn't, i do regret not having that little bit in therebut i can probably find a way to circle back to that at some point, who knows

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Pangab

Walky is us with the autism theories.

Kelly (they-them)

I'm also very tickled by the idea of Amber being autistic but not Amazi-Girl.

Sajuuk-Khar

“Let’s not pathologize being Batman.”

Simon Magid

Can we at least pathologize certain Batman writers? *COUGHCOUGH* Frank Miller *COUGHCOUGH* my that is a bad cough

Seth Aaron Hershman has they/she pronouns

While overall I prefer the strips that ran, I think you're being a little hard on yourself here. Not a lot! But a little. For starters, I think these function perfectly well as setup-punchline strips, as jokes beyond just the information being provided. And the idea that hooking up and giving Walky boyfriend responsibilities was in some way part of the decay of Walky and Lucy's relationship is an interesting one--especially because, from Lucy's perspective, hooking up with Walky was the only way she was gonna learn he wasn't being a great friend, either. So that might also be a thing to circle back to. Subtlety's great, but something that's been bugging me about the 18-May strip is the connection between Walky's ADHD and his snowhill. The connection there is really abstract, which I love, but it means Walky's attempt to spell it out doesn't really communicate anything to the audience except that the connection is there, and Dorothy understanding it intuitively makes it feel like the point wasn't to be subtle. Tying it to Walky's confused feelings on the breakup is simpler, but it's also cleaner in terms of how the conversation is progressing.

Seth Aaron Hershman has they/she pronouns

Oops, sent early. My conclusion there was basically that even though I think the unused 18-May does a slightly better job raising Walky's ADHD, the official 19-May strip does a way better job paying off both that and Dorothy's autism and the ways in which the needs implied by those diagnoses have gone unmet. Even if I don't agree Walky listing the autists reads as wiki fodder, it does divert the focus wildly away from the characters who we're actually reading about, and it's important to keep things squarely on Walky and Dorothy here.

Harold

@Simon Magid: whoreswhoreswhoreswhor___

Harold

Alternate Dumbing of Age, Book 14: Unless He IS an' His Hyperfocus is, Like, TIDDIES

Seth Aaron Hershman has they/she pronouns

I think there's a lot of good angles on Joe being autistic besides monofocus. He's covering for a lack of confidence in his ability to read and connect with other people by mimicking the behaviors of others, specifically his dad. He has an extremely specific code of ethics that's inscrutable to the people around him. He uses extreme confidence as a masking technique. He's denied interiority by his peers. It's really funny, the way autism can conspire to turn you into a perfect facsimile of a normal guy while denying you all the underlying tools neurotypical people use to actually function.

Amós Batista

I confess it's hard for me to see Joe as neurodivergent. He looks pretty typical. But, if you can include another point into your theory, his mom is autistic, so he could have inherited from her.

Amós Batista

Wow, these panels were so great... But I understand Willis's points.

Rob McBobson

Not the first time I've read creator's commentary on comics, and the comics themselves are great IMO, and the commentary's like "Yeah, as you can CLEARLY see this stuff didn't work at ALL"

Dan Rabin

There was a slight downside in the final choice of venue, in that Dorothy and Walky's key conversation begins after what we know to be a significant walk across campus, during which they are unlikely to have been either silent or holding back on the real stuff. But I forgive—it's like when a film adaptation changes a scene to happen in a visually-better location than the book has. Making the comic a good comic has to take precedence over optimizing the inferred off-screen action.

Maude Reads Things

Lots of interesting stuff here but I like seeing it the way it played out

areyoshi

Somehow I never clocked Sarah as being autistic. Maybe because my own 'tism is nothing like hers

Walter Kolczynski

I see why you changed it, but blurting out his (likely inaccurate) perception of who is autistic definitely feels like something Walky would do, especially if they were not present.

Sibre Collard

I love seeing your process! I don't think I've ever seen one of these WIPs that was better than the final, and if really good lines get cut, they usually turn up later on. The Edit is an essential tool, and you wield it masterfully.

Jane Bailey

Sadly that's not quite how it works with Autism + DID. All my partner's alters are autistic but one of them "has the autism for the collective" meaning most of the visible traits they got punished for having come out in that one alter and not the others. But the rest of them think like an autistic person still, it's a neurotype that applies to the whole brain, not just the part that does the stimming and has texture issues and whatnot.

Jane Bailey

Lots of people with autism function perfectly fine! So that doesn't necessarily follow. Though I agree, she definitely is.

Kelly (they-them)

Oh hey, I *did* read this post when it was new. Patreon recommended it to me on my home page and I was like, "Hm, think I missed this one."