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Early update for August 15, 2025 (Patreon)

Published:
2025-08-14 03:55:01
Edited:
2025-08-14 04:02:36
Imported:
2026-06

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deciding whether if it's funny to not tag dorothy on the main site tomorrow

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Jim Avery

Oh my god, they were roommates

Jeremy AR

Let's be fair Booster doesn't need to use their analysis skills to figure out this case.

C

They are in roommates with each other.

MrShoggoth

If only we’d seen this coming

Heatth

I vote for not tagging Dorothy tomorrow (maybe add the tag the next day for future search-ability though)

voyager-ngc5195

In this episode, Joyce learns she has not, in fact, been subtle.

KittyKai

BOOSTER SHE'S ALREADY DEAD xD

AE Gonzalez

Joyce, you are not a Jedi.

Railway Series Book Club

HEY BOOSTER YOU SHOULD TELL HER THAT JULIA GRAY AND PRESIDENT DORIS HAVE A KNIGHT/PRINCESS DYNAMIC

GPanda

Hate to say it but I’d find it far more interesting if Sarah Joyce’s ACTUAL ROOMMATE was her love interest instead of Dorothy

Maude Reads Things

Well that didn't work! It's gonna be hard to not figure out when you know these two and now they're acting weird

ArdieBea

Did we know that Dorothy was clipping and saving all Joyce's strips?

Harold

I see that subtle scissoring gesture in panel 8, Boost

tifani

Okay this is extremely funny

AE Gonzalez

I was gonna say everyone’s gonna know before the day is over. Now it looks like everyone *already* knew.

AE Gonzalez

Stevie Wonder could see this coming.

Harold

@ArdieBea: I think we did know that Dorothy was faithfully picking up the paper every morning specifically to see Joyce's comic, but not necessarily that she was saving all of them. It was probably implied, though.

Railway Series Book Club

y'all we gotta vote president doris for this months bonus strip. i need to see dorothy voraciously reading saving and clipping so bad

ArdieBea

Everyone knows they're close. The people closest to them know that, yep, they have big buckets of love for each other. And also that it hasn't actually been an overtly romantic relationship thus far. And that they are in such relationships with a pair of boys. So... Booster's knowing is still relatively low-stakes compared to said boys, Becky, and Sarah.

Ilana Feldman

I dunno, it's gonna have a hard time beating lightswitch.

Girlycore

My vote is also for Don't Tag Dorothy. It's too funny.

Dan Rabin

In the future it will no longer be funny, but will make some tag searches incomplete.

tifani

I feel like Booster is basically just Veronica Mars but there’s no dead best friend’s murder to solve so they just go around doing stuff like this.

voyager-ngc5195

"... Never?" *beat panel* *JoyceShockedFace .png*

Alexandra Falk

Man, a Booster-centric mystery arc would have LEGS.

tifani

Probably clipping in front of Booster on Walky’s bed in their room.

Heatth

That analysis loses a bit of novelty when it is, like, just literally the text of the Julia Gray stories, lol.

tifani

Make it all noir-y. Do the whole thing in black and white.

Heatth

I do wonder if Joyce has actual fans though. Like, beyond people who knows her personally.

tifani

Booster is eating a salad.

tifani

….Okay now I’m just going back to Veronica Mars aren’t I? Damn it that was a good show.

Harold

@Tifani: Walky: "Dorothy, yer savin' copies a' MY comic, too, right?" Dorothy: [staring at Joyce's comic, grinning dopily] Walky: "Dorothy?"

Harold

"And I woulda gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for that dirty Sanchez!"

Heatth

Walky's are on the internet to be fair, so she wouldn't need to clip them and there is less of a pressing need to save.

Railway Series Book Club

@Heatth: no but the text of the julia gray literally just being that is EVERYTHING to me. like its just the perfect encapsulation of what makes me rabid about doa theocracy (i.e. joyce being dorothy's knight and dorothy being too wrapped up in believing she has to protect joyce to recognize that)

Lea

I think they're ticking off numbers/things/observations. Two panels before was one finger. Then two fingers. I'm guessing tomorrow might have three fingers for a third observation?

Smoochie

Everyone but Becky, Joe, and Walky probably—but yeah this isn’t exactly a shock to anyone. <_<

Kelly (they-them)

Dorothy trying to use bisexual invisibilty to her advantage

5099 5618 v2.0

Has Joyce seen Utena? Is she going to watch it with Dorothy, soon?

William Lewis

Oh god oh god oh god I had utterly forgotten slashfic... I'm dying. I'm at work so I can't be laughing at the hotel front desk but I am freaking dying, Willis!

5099 5618 v2.0

@Kelly (they-them) Pals, even. Gals being pals.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Tifani "Of all the dorms in all the world, she had to walk her milky jugs into mine..." (/Whiskey) (/Jazz riff)

Irene Knapp

amazing description, thanks for that

AE Gonzalez

“Reads, clips, and saves.”

Irene Knapp

yeah. Joe had that amazing scene a while back where he asks Dorothy for advice about Joyce's sexual interests, while Dorothy is immersed in paperwork about that exact topic. if he's surprised they're in love it'll only be in an "oh! of course" kind of way .......... but the important, genuinely new information is that they figured this out while dating other people. THAT is going to have social effects.

William Lewis

Perhaps don't tag now but tag himself to go back in a month and add the tag?

darklion

Panel 5 Joyce's eyes are like ones from the old Yahtzee video game reviews

Tessea

To be fair, I think this is exactly why I expect Joe's reaction to be something along the lines of 'I figured this was coming'. Walky may have a similar reaction depending on how hard he's been ignoring how Dorothy interacts with Joyce all this time. But she broke up with him once already so i expect him to have a big reaction. If not immediately, the explosion will happen eventually. Becky..... fittingly is a wildcard. She could react anywhere along the spectrum from 'Took ya long enough!' to breaking down and damaging her relationship with Dina over it.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Kelly (they-them) ("I cant do it on command.") "She can't do it on command! But she can do so much more!"

5099 5618 v2.0

@Jeremy AR Booster doesn't need to use their *eyes* to figure them out, at this point

tifani

I forgot he had a comic too until you said this.

Shane Wegner

“All fiction is wish fulfillment” -Tim Schafer, Double Fine

Elizabeth

Sublimating desires into fiction? I wouldn’t know anything about that. Nope. Not a thing. *Whistles innocently* 😇

ArdieBea

I think you're right, @Lea. I also think it's meant to indicate scissors, literal and metaphoric.

Logibear

I've just realized what they're reminding me of! They're two cats on catnip. But the catnip is each other.

AE Gonzalez

Not quite slashfic, but there’s a scene in Craig of the Creek where Kelsey and her friend Stacks are reading parts of the fantasy novel they are writing together. It doesn’t take long to notice that the characters, who are lovers, are very similar to Kelsey and Stacks. The camera zooms in on Kelsey’s ever reddening face as she realizes her character is a self insert, and she wants her girl friend to be her girlfriend. She’s 9 years old, and acts exactly as a 9 year old would react to realizing they like someone “like that”: run away screaming. https://youtu.be/3UWnVg0BJeE?si=WGKtnoygfTzR2Y_a

Sajuuk-Khar

No. Joyce would learn the wrong things from Utena. Joyce is going to watch Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch from Mercury.

Sajuuk-Khar

You have my vote. Or rather, President Doris, Amoral Lust Machine, has my vote.

Sajuuk-Khar

I can HEAR the “God DAMMIT!” and it’s fucking beautiful

Sajuuk-Khar

GOD no not GQuuuuuuX, we want her to see space wives before we drop her into the deep end of Alternate Universal Century

Sajuuk-Khar

Also if we REALLY want to emotionally destroy her/Dorothy and every other sapphic pairing in Clark we put them all in a room and make them watch Madoka

5099 5618 v2.0

@Sajuuk-Khar I...don't think Joyce is ready for MM. She should get to enjoy good feelings for a bit, first. (Mrs. 5099 suggests Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, FWIW)

Sajuuk-Khar

A supportive Dina: lends them Nanoha A vengeful paladin Dina: ties them to chairs and makes them marathon the whole Madoka series and then Rebellion

Terra Bruder

Somehow this is the best instance since Joyce started cursing

MrShoggoth

My oldest friend pointed out that the protagonist in the novel I wrote has a neurodivergent vibe, and it was completely unintentional on my part. It really is A Thing (tm)

MrShoggoth

She should watch Macross Plus instead. Not because it’s relevant to her or her situation or anything, but because more people need to see Macross Plus.

5099 5618 v2.0

@MrShoggoth Mrs. 5099 agrees with you, but wonders if it's reasonable to expect anyone her age to have done so. She also wonders who the cast's anime nerd would be.

5099 5618 v2.0

(is this what Colombo felt like? "my wife, that's Mrs. 5099, she tried to get me into Gundam a few times. So I see there's this new Gundam on, "GQuuuuuuX" they called it, and she noped out by episode three. All but forbid further episodes be shown on any monitors in the house. "Oh, by the way, is there any chance you or Ms. Brown have seen the footage from the recent campus protest?")

MrShoggoth

I had that exact feeling a few years ago when I quoted Brick Top from Snatch at work and all my younger co-workers asked how I came up with the lines. Had me aging like Private Ryan real quick

William Lewis

Feeling old, haven't seen any of these. Just kinda remembering the end of The Legend of Korra instead. Good enough for this ancient old one 😈

Joey245

Oh my god they were roommates...

Seth Aaron Hershman has they/she pronouns

there was someone in the comments forever ago who would intermittently drop paragraphs of a whole-ass "jocelyne as a noir detective" fic. i smell crossover

Albi

(You know what? I will pay $5 for more pleasant comment sections.)

etherealDesign

I made this choice about a month ago and have not regretted it one bit! welcome!

Lia

AW LMAO all the gay subtext chickens are coming home to roost at once, i cant believe i forgot

Ilana Feldman

In a way, this storyline (and some of the nighttime shenanigans in the previous) have felt kind of like the one in book 11 where Booster got introduced to everyone. Except this time, everyone's getting introduced to Joyce and Dorothy's incredible gayness.

Smoochie

I thought you can only use that once a day as a bonus action!?

Elizabeth

My first attempt at a novel opened with a woman in a prison being repeatedly interrogated about who she was. The other idea I had back then opened with a woman in a liminal featureless void being questioned about who she was and what planet she was from. Both of these were years before I’d admit I was trans <<

Emily Lamont

Please don't leave Dorothy out, as the weird type of fandom pervert who does spreadsheets about character appearances and such it wouldn't be the end of the world, but your tagging system has been a great help for things like that.

Harold

@Ilana Feldman: *Formally* introduced. Most of them kinda knew the incredible gayness, in passing.

Sajuuk-Khar

As a huge weeb myself, you may tell Mrs. 5099 that I feel like Dina is the true anime *connossieur*, Amber is the otaku with incredible trash tastes, and Becky is an eager understudy to both of them. also I still maintain that Becky’s favorite Jojo part is Stardust Crusaders and it’s only because of Kakyoin, who she loved with her whole ginger soul. I think if you say “KAKYOINNN!” around her in the Old Joseph voice, Becky freezes up and starts to have tears. Alice is an anime casual. She tried to get Billie to watch something popular with her, probably Sailor Moon, and Billie flaked out.

David M Willis

If I did untag her for this strip, it'd only be for a couple days! For the same obsessive spreadsheeting reason.

Emily Lamont

Then go right ahead 😂 great goof, just don't forget :p

5099 5618 v2.0

@Sajuuk-Khar Mrs. 5099 has nodded approvingly. She is also now making me watch a video on whether Utena is still relevant by stushi.

5099 5618 v2.0

Has Dorothy discovered pivot tables, yet? I suspect she might go Ultra Instinct, the day she does. (Also, Mrs. 5099 thinks Amber has a more involved relationship spreadsheet than Dorothy, and seeks confirmation on this point. She thinks this is because she writes RPF, FWIW)

Emily Lamont

She's still using vlookup, but someday soon she'll discover xlookup and it'll be like the move from hamon to stands. The world will never be the same.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Olivia Connolly Thank you. I actually laughed out loud, just now. (Mrs. 5099 is trying to figure out from context clues if that's like managing spreadsheets in MATLAB or R, now. She is convinced Amber's GUI looks like a mind-map, regardless) (Update: having described a Gantt chart, she says that makes more sense)

tifani

Can Booster be in the comic more? They’re fun!

tifani

Absolutely no one will be surprised that they’re gay for each other. Everyone including their boyfriends knows they’re gay for each other. They’re the Lenny and Carl of their university. The shocking behavior is the cheating. Dorothy and Joyce basically were before this held on pedestals by pretty much everybody they knew. There’s gotta be a relief in knocking them over. In a burn your whole life down type of way.

Mariah

Dorothy and Joyce do remind me of when I was obsessed with princess bubblegum and marciline when I was thirteen and made conspiracy boards explaining why they were gay for each other. There is no such thing as platonic shirt sniffing I said I screamed into the abyss. People said I was a crazy weirdo well who is crazy now! Well still me. Anyway I do appreciate gay subtext as long as its not done in a cowardly way. (Looking at you Tomb Raider Netflix show)

Andrea Andrew

I’m glad PB and Marceline walked so Joyce and Dorothy could run.

Andrea Andrew

I think Joyce would love the Owl House and RWBY.

tifani

Honestly the only people who thought Dorothy and Joyce were straight were Dorothy and Joyce.

tifani

Just reread the comic where Dorothy talks to Danny about cheating “accidentally” and being bisexual and he straight up called that being “a morally bankrupt human being” and this conversation literally happened like what 48 hours before the cheating took place? Dorothy comes to Danny her EX BOYFRIEND for advice about her sexuality and then literally less than a week later does the thing he said would be fucked up and horrible to his BEST FRIEND??? Ohhhhh man. Forget Becky. I think Danny’s going to be the one with the most nuclear reaction to this entire thing and you just know he’s not even a blip on her radar. Just like Walky basically is. I like Dorothy, I do. But the extremely cold and calculated shit she does to get what she wants while projecting this well crafted (though now fraying but only we know that with the benefit of being the audience) image “always knows best, always does the right thing” needs to be addressed and Danny would be a good choice for it. This girl did want to be president. There is a certain ego that goes with that. There is a certain idea of people having to be disposable to achieve what you want. And while Dorothy has abandoned that dream she hasn’t abandoned that ambition and that pursuit of a goal like a shark smelling blood in the water. It’s likely second nature to her at this point and I think I like her more now. Not in a I support her shittiness way but in a more who she actually is turns out to be way more interesting than who she thought she was. Or pretended to be. Which is the point of people but ya know. Also her soon to be ex is Danny’s current girlfriend’s brother…Jesus Christ.

Harold

@Andrea Andrew: Run? Have we forgotten the last strip already? They *fly* now!

tifani

And now for fun I’m thinking about potential “sides” when the reveal does happen: Sal is going to have to be team Joe and Walky by default (unless she wants to be in conflict with both her boyfriend and her brother) however she might personally feel but nothing about her tells me she would be okay with this and even if Walky didn’t give a shit or Joe decided to be okay with it Danny will absolutely not be okay with this. So while neither Joyce or Dorothy give a fuck about Danny’s feelings they both consider Sal a friend so there’s one more person this whole mess is going to cost them. Billie is going to side with Walky the second the cheating is confirmed. So this move has/will fuck up their relationships with: Joe, Walky, Sarah, Sal and Billie. Joyce and Dorothy will have each other and I’m assuming Becky and Dinah depending on Becky’s reaction. Amber is a wild card. She wants Walky and actively pushed these two towards each other but I don’t see her being particularly judgmental about their actions in a “we’re all garbage” type of way. But she is Joe’s stepsister and she is potentially Walky’s future partner. So she seems like the one who could be a go between.

Sajuuk-Khar

I’m excited about the Jojo reference

Astariel

Okay, but like, Dorothy didn't go after Joyce in a cold and calculating way. She tried several times to put the brakes on both before and after the big kiss. You can certainly argue that she should have done more, and I agree that people are going to be mad at her, but cold and calculating and treating people as disposable is not how she went about this at all.

Logibear

Agreed. Even when people are frustrated here they don't tend to be dicks about it.

Sajuuk-Khar

@5099: Lest I am remiss, Mary is canonically something of an anime nerd, and I feel like she’s one of the ones whose taste seems decent on the surface…buuuut then you look a little deeper and shit gets creepy (she has an unironic essay on Kyubey Did Nothing Wrong, she stans Funny Valentine and Kira in JJBA, she has a Titans recruiting poster from Zeta Gundam on her wall) Malaya is also an anime…well, not enjoyer. She’s like Shadow Dina. She pretends to be above it all but secretly is kind of a memelord who torrents whole series.

tifani

Yes it is actually. I’m not saying she did this consciously (at least in the beginning) but I do see her behavior post kiss as a bit cold and calculated. You’re free to disagree of course but she is actively engaging in covering up the cheating right now and planning to steal Joyce from Joe, there’s the calculation. Dorothy and Joyce are free to make their own decisions obviously but I do very much think they are both treating people as kind of disposable. Going back to Dorothy: She and Walky got back together three days ago. Joe is obviously deeply in love with Joyce. To have what they want Dorothy and Joyce are deciding that the pain of others and the destruction of these other relationships is an acceptable loss. There’s the coldness. Being cold doesn’t mean being without feeling or guilt. I am not saying that Joyce or Dorothy are obligated to stay in relationships they don’t want to be in anymore. But I think that because this is a popular pairing that people want and because people don’t want to judge and let’s be real here: because this is a QUEER relationship people are being kind of willfully blind to just how bad this behavior is. Because historically and up to the present day queer love and identity and visibility has had to be fought for and it is something beautiful and sacred. But this is still bad behavior. It is treating other people like they matter less. It just is. Dorothy is actively being kind of an asshole right now. It’s still okay to like her. She’s not irredeemably evil. She’s a kid in love doing selfish and shitty things. Joyce too. It’ll be okay.

tifani

Like seriously just: look people can feel a feeling and feel it deeply and love is a hell of a buzz but you don’t get some kind of get out of jail free card on other people existing and being affected by the reality of your actions because of it and these two girls yes they are teenagers but they are also intelligent and empathetic and they could have gone about this differently and stopped themselves earlier and they just didn’t and it’s okay to be like “hey these characters I like are being kind of objectively shitty right now at a level that shocks me” and you’ll just have to sit with that and it will be fine. This is a good story being told. This subject matter is uncomfortable. Multiple things can be happening at the same time.

Anna Phylaxis

Yeah, no, it is super wild and out of pocket to call Dorothy cold or calculated at any part in this arc. She's been lurching from one impulsive decision to another, trying to find something to cling to or define for herself as her former identity has been falling apart. I really don't understand how someone could look at that and see it as cold and calculated.

Anna Phylaxis

Also, I'm sorry, "STEAL" Joyce from Joe? Joyce is not a piece of property, and Joe does not own her! If anyone was taking the initiative in this story, it has BEEN Joyce! I genuinely sometimes am unsure what comic strip other folks are reading.

Mariah

some people attribute dorothy to misery business completly unironically Joyce has acted with more malice to walky than dorothy has to joe.

tifani

@anna you get that someone being like “oh my actions are so shitty I feel bad” but then continuing to do the shitty action is still making a choice, right? They are weighing the pros and cons and deciding the pros are worth the cons. Doing the math. Calculating you might say. Pursuing a course of action with the full awareness of the likely consequences.