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Vivian

A Steve eating cereal joke in current year??

KiasyonSFM

Can someone twist my neck back into place, holy whiplash.

Lazuli

joe wingman

jafortee

fatality: paladins lose, sickos win

William Lewis

Oh. I didn't see that coming. Cute!!!!

C

"Oh, btdubs, I haven't...told Dorothy...yet...y'know...about...THAT...so...any advice there? Joe: ...Hot? Joyce: ...*sighs*

Logibear

Joe is smiling. Planet Earth is healing.

Populuxe

I love that “Steve eating cereal” is basically an internet meme by this point.

Ria

Joe has always been King of the Sickos

Astariel

Aw, I like this.

tifani

Oh my god. It’s happening. They’re having THE CONVERSATION. I’m not ready. Cut back to Billie doing math homework.

MDL

There's pain behind that smile

Harold

@tifani: It’s entirely possible that this WAS the conversation

tifani

If the Joe and Joyce conversation is going to happen simultaneously with the Becky and Dina conversation then I go back to my previous prediction for when the biology class started which is that the better this goes for Joyce and Joe the worse this goes for Becky and Dina.

Railway Series Book Club

HIS MASTER PLAN FOR HIS GIRLFRIEND* TO BANG HER GIRLCRUSH HAS BEEN A ROARING SUCCESS *don't ask whether or not she's still his girlfriend

Harold

“Bust a move?”

AE Gonzalez

Side-note: the gender-neutral term is wing-mate.

Logibear

"Sex Monster eh? Just call me Poly-phemous..." "You know I don't know who that is"

tifani

Absofuckinglutely not. It’s been a YEAR. They have shit to discuss.

AE Gonzalez

Joe saying “hanky-panky,” Joyce saying “sex.”

Dan Rabin

So this is the actual talk Joyce and Joe actually have in the actual comic. We are dropped into a late stage in the conversation as they return to Read Hall from biology class. Joe gets no less than *three* beat panels: first, as he and Joyce glance at each other (probably to see how the sexually-charged topic is going down), then two panels to understand that Joyce is treating the topic favorably with respect to him. Joyce has not forgotten their previous conversation (she doesn't do that), and she's delivering her message to someone she's actually comfortable with. Comfort for Joe and Joyce; discomfort for Sarah?

Packy Anderson

Though, really, to be DoA, it should be RILEY eating cereal.

Dan Rabin

It's a bit of cyclopsological jargon. Booster will be glad to explain.

Packy Anderson

It's been a few days for them. It's only been a year for us.

tifani

I genuinely think she is going to leave this conversation having agreed to poly with Joe while conveniently leaving out that Dorothy has not been asked. I don’t think she’ll mean to. It just seems like something she’d do. And honestly she could probably get away with not telling either for awhile if she wanted to. Just because Joe is okay with the idea of Joyce being with Dorothy doesn’t mean he’s going to want to hang out with her. And Dorothy will likely want to avoid Joe for as long as possible. This would obviously be a bad idea which is why I could totally see her doing it.

Dan Rabin

Harold: perhaps it's not a THE conversation, connoting finality and a yes-or-no from Joyce, but rather part a discussion between the two of them on a topic of intense mutual interest.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Ria Point of order: sickos have no king. We do not organize ourselves in this fashion. "Champion", however...

Dan Rabin

Yes, sickos are an autonomous collective, eschewing farcical aquatic ceremonies.

tifani

@packy I think that the amount of time the audience has had to wait matters more than the amount of time that has passed in comic at a certain point and we are very much there. The plot point has to move forward. With the way time works in this comic you could use the “it’s been a few days” excuse to drag anything and everything out but that is no way to pace a story.

Tessea

Aww. No hard feelings. And still cute together 😄

5099 5618 v2.0

@Packy Anderson It's a relativistic thing. The plot moves near light speed, so those being moved by it experience very little time relative to outside observers. Also, it's kind of what freshman year is like when you're a freshman. You do a lot of living in not much time, those first two semesters.

Dan Rabin

Faye and Amanda have appeared in DoA. Dina has appeared in QC. Dina has worn a "Coffee of Doom" T-Shirt in DoA. Options are not foreclosed, but past performance should not be used to predict future comics.

Dan Rabin

In Dumbiverse, cereal eat Steve!

Harold

Someone in the main site comments tomorrow, probably: I can’t believe Joyce called Joe “history’s greatest … monster”

5099 5618 v2.0

There should be a world where Joe gets a printed out [1] and signed [2] copy of the "Friend of Dorothy" Slipshine issue. [1] - On glossy paper, of course. Like a high-end comic book. [2] - By Willis, Joyce, *and* Dorothy.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Dan Rabin We don't have anything against moistened bints, here, mind you. Scimitar or no.

5099 5618 v2.0

@tifani She does seem like she might be having some trouble parsing "what I want is good" and "what I want is good *for all involved* (and also what they [ want | (should want) ]".

5099 5618 v2.0

@Harold "History's greatest sex monster" seems closer to it. And also like something he'd have printed onto a T-shirt.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Queen of Sodor Gambling Addiction: Relationship Edition

Kevin Ryan

Strong “‘She has a certain...’ ‘...je ne sais quoi?’ ‘I don’t know what that means.’” vibes to that.

5099 5618 v2.0

Goal: to see Joe wear a "Friend of Dorothy" T-shirt.

Crunchos cereal

I, for one, welcome Steve eating cereal.

5099 5618 v2.0

Ideally, one signed by Joyce *and* Dorothy.

Samel da Camel

Also, the "cut to Steve eating cereal" gag kind of implies that the audience would expect something tomorrow. But maybe thats a trick.

Zesstra

We waited 11 years for a Jocelyne on HRT appearance, waiting a year for something like this is what I'm used to.

Shane Wegner

Paladins have resurrection. Sickos just try to outbreed their predators!

JMat

Oh. Oh, no. He's happy because he still thinks Joyce is seeing both him and Dorothy, and that all three of them are on the same page about that. Maybe Joyce is about to force herself to have *that* bit of the conversation.

KittyKai

Don’t cut to a different arc next strip don’t cut to a different arc next strip don’t cut to a

Empress of Robots

Inside of Joe there are two wolves: One that still holds out hope for a continued relationship with Joyce despite her relationship with Dorothy. The other that wants to high five Joyce for having sapphic sex with his roommate’s ex. Both want to watch the next time it happens.

joe mcguire

Joyce not getting stuff is kind of the whole premise of the comic, but it’s still frustrating that she doesn’t get that Joe has done a lot to get past the “sex monster” label— inspired to do so by her— and here she’s still calling him that. A big reason he was so promiscuous was because he didn’t trust relationships or himself to be in them. So the girl he genuinely tried for still calling him that, even as a joke, has got to hurt.

AstralAegis

I don't think he thinks that yet, but he probably thinks the conversation is happening. Please Joyce, get that ball rolling, we need a decision. Poor Joe doesn't deserve to get strung along without closure.

tifani

Jocelyne only recently became a main character. Her updates being way more spread out before this time makes sense.

tifani

I think we’re going to be going back and forth between Joe and Joyce talking and Becky and Dina talking which is completely fine with me.

Girlycore

I agree with this. I'm the world's biggest "There Should Be Main Character Polyamory" campaigner, and possibly the world's second biggest "It Should Involved JoyDorJoe", but Mx. Willis draws expressions VERY well. Their eyebrow game is second to none, and those are not totally happy eyebrows. That said, it's pretty normal to have a lot of feelings about a situation like this. I don't think he's Only Sad or Only Hurting or even Only Worried. I think he's being sincere when he says he finds it hot and I think the smile is sincere, too. Just not the only thing happening.

Girlycore

Polyamory can solve for both if everyone's into it.

Girlycore

Culminating in a series of panels where they're saying similar things to one another, but the meaning in context of each conversation is starkly different.

Inquiring Raven

This is a bad idea that I could see the character doing… that is like slice of life drama writing crack.

Rob McBobson

I might be super wrong, but I stand by my earlier statement that it'll take until Christmas this year for us to finally get the big conversation between Joe and Joyce.

Harold

@5099 5618 v2.0: Didn't we just start this day with a couple of moistened bints?

5099 5618 v2.0

@Shane Wagner Smile when you say that!

5099 5618 v2.0

@TheWillisAboveAll Does the Joyce/Dorothy/Joe ship have a name, yet? If not, I nominate "Copperplate Gothic"

tifani

Do you hate me? Do you want me to die? Because what you are suggesting would actually kill me. Seriously though what’s to be gained by waiting that long from a story perspective? It has been a year now of being in the process of resolving the post kiss plot line and wherever you fall on how you want this resolved I think the majority of the audience is over living in the ambiguity. Dragging this all out for another seven months not only feels unrealistic it feels borderline torturous. There is not enough audience interest to keep dragging this out. There is also little to no story logic to Joyce and Joe to not just hash this shit out right now. Seven months from now I want to be settled into whatever the new normal if that means polyamory or not but I also want to be discussing new plot points. Plus I have to believe Willis is beyond over what the kiss fall out has done to their comments and would like to move forward too.

tifani

TLDR: Remember how finding out Mike died took like a month? Should we really be spending more time finding out if a relationship died than we did a person?

tifani

Or idk anyone else watch the handmaid’s tale? Spoilers spoilers blah blah blah. There was an episode where a character was trapped in a hospital room for over two weeks waiting for another character on life support to die and was not allowed to leave until they did. She understandably started to loose her shit after a while? I feel like me waiting another seven months is just going to have me in a similar state. If you’ve never watched the handmaid’s tale also look up Chinese water torture. That’s where I’m at with the idea of more waiting. I’m kink positive but only consensually and I am NOT into edging etc. LET ME NUT ALREADno one is as tired of hearing me complain about this as I am. Free me from this purgatory I beg of you Willis.

tifani

I’m done talking about this now. Fingers crossed I can soon shut up about it forever.

tifani

At this point polyamory is the only logical outcome. If Joyce and Joe are broken up forever there’s no story here. There’s no reason for this to have been dragged out for a year. Joyce is poly and Joe is going to eat those “I will never have a threesome with Dorothy” words. Preferably while he’s eating out Joyce. And Joyce is going to town on Dorothy. And everybody’s happy! THE END!!!

tifani

And Willis finally gets slipshine money from me.

tifani

I think he’s supportive of her having had the sex but he wants to know where he and Joyce stand. He’s waiting to either get his heart broken fully or have his hope and patience rewarded. It’s a tough spot to be in. So yeah for those who have kept insisting the break up happened months ago irl. Nope. If it happens this is it happening. This is the break up talk. Potentially. Potentially not.

T Campbell

This is a good strip, and I like it.