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Star Trek TOS 1x13 The Menagerie Part 2 (Patreon)

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2026-06-20 16:00:12
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TGrimace

The dance to the opening theme made my whole day. It was wonderful!

Kinokind

What an elegant way to recycle an unused pilot episode. Way to go Gene! On the topic of theater, which is what we're discussing. Surely you (Kat) have seen and been in a production done on very rudimentary sets? Too many viewers today fixate on tiny details in the settings, which are completely unimportant. All that matters is the writing and the acting. Shakespeare performed on a bare stage is still Shakespeare. 12 chairs and a table, and you can have "12 Angry Men." Theater is, after all, just pretending. But good theater, like any good art, tells us something about ourselves. It is a mirror, held up for us to look into. Sometimes it's a funhouse mirror, but it's still us seeing some version of ourselves. So theater, when it wants to, and like all art, tells the truth. Great Art tells The Truth. And that's why it's important. Not the conclusion one expects from a 1960's TV show, is it.

James At the Peak

Saturday Star Trek/Sunday X-Files/ Kat making the weekends a treat. Horror during the Week! This Patron is enjoying the Show. Thank you Horror Coach. Captain James Tiberius Kirk. (William Shatner) is hands down the best Captain on this or any Planet. Continued Success to you and the Internets best Channel.

Dave_Dot_Executable

Shame you can't GIF Patreon videos. I mean you CAN, but you probably SHOULDN'T. I still want to though.

Michael clark

Just think 60 years ago…. I was 9 when this started and I have watched every episode a dozen times… these characters I have known longer than anyone else in my life… my parents are dead…. I believe you will some day have to watch all the ones you skip

Michael clark

I believe this two parter was the original pilot for the show. They decided not to do it until later. Jeffrey Hunter who played Capt. Pike was not available for the series any longer.. they chose William Shatner and changed Spock a little… the rest is history.

Who Are These People

Funny thing is, the show didn't do well back in the 60's. It was cancelled after season 1 and only a huge fan write-in campaign (I can't imagine how they organized it, back then, no internet?) got them to extend it and then it only ran 2 more seasons.

Michael Gehrman

Great reaction, Kate! As you see, the wriing, directing and acting was much superior to most things since. This is brilliant wriintg by real professionals. You see it well! Whoever suggested this could be skipped or was camp was giving advice they knew nothing about. I still suggest Wolf in the fold and Specter of the Gun.

BrakYeller

TOS was definitely ahead of its time, and network execs did not know what to do with it. There's a woman named Bjo Trimble, she and her husband were a large part of the "Save Star Trek" campaigns; definitely look her up if you have the chance. There was a huge letter writing campaign, people waving signs in front of the NBC offices, and fans were invading the NBC parking lots to slap "I Grok Spock!" bumper stickers on random employees' cars. It was really the first fan-driven campaign to save a show, and it worked. The truly sad part of it is that when NBC actually cancelled the show in the third season, a bunch of the demographics people angrily confronted the execs, demanding why they killed off a show with such perfect demographics, and the execs laughed it off... the demographics numbers didn't drive TV as actively then as they do now, but NBC took a demonstrable advertising hit when it cancelled Star Trek, because demographically it was this weird little unicorn.

BrakYeller

Fun bit of trivia- it took several tries to get the scene made where Vina is dancing as the green Orion, because the first two or three takes were ruined by the film developer, who kept over-correcting on the tint because they didn't know the negatives were for a sci-fi show and the woman was actually *supposed* to be green. It's honestly a miracle this show got made... Hollywood literally did not know how to make science fiction beyond the 1950s' B-movie style. If you really want to enhance your Star Trek journey, consider watching the 1956 film "Forbidden Planet." It's one of the first major movies to do 'serious' science fiction, and do it well. It still holds up, and it's one of the most direct influences on Roddenberry in making Star Trek.

Jonathan Kardell

Yes, the writing and production on this two part episode was excellent. Very amusing that the studio rejected it as the pilot episode because it was "Too cerebral", They wanted a space western. Silly rabbits. Some of the science fiction writers back then were really excellent. Between Star Trek, The Outer Limits, and The Twilight Zone, we had some really excellent story telling going on. Not all episodes were bangers, of course, but the ones that hit are really good.

Steve

Hi Michael, I was right there too. I was the same age you were then. Watching Kat react to this 2 parter and then her response at the end was special, I cannot describe the feelings. I too have watched all the episodes multiple times. I have already recommended Kat watch all the episodes in other comments, she would not regret it.

Steve

Thanks Kat, this was special. I watched the entire TOS when it originally aired. I really think you should watch all of the episodes, I think you would really enjoy them.

Vak

I'd throw in a vote for "Forbidden Planet" as well. It's a classic that still holds up in many ways, and was the most expensive sci-fi movie produced to that time (and would remain so until "2001" rolled around over a decade later), so visually it's still solid. It's also basically an interpretation of Shakespeare's "The Tempest," so, extra points for classical literature.

StellarDreams

I'm watching you watching them watch an episode!

StellarDreams

Also yeah, no Pike until the new series still airing Strange New Worlds.