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2x10 Sanctuary

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This week we get another issue that ends in a grey area for me (note how many time I say "it's complicated" in the outro lol) and there seems to be different possibilities for what the "right thing to do" might be. Where do you guys land on this one? Engage! šŸ––

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Dylan

No one does Star Trek reactions better than Jen, she’s the best šŸ–– also I hope you and the baby are doing well.

Neill Shaughness

Personally I think the Bajorans were absolutely reasonable and these people are just fanatics

Squeesher

Awwww, congratulations on the baby boy!!

Summer

So wonderful you are doing well. The request by these people was unreasonable we will see more as the story progresses the head Skrean was a gaslighter. I am actually now wondering if this was a test of Bajor by a certain Gamma quadrant species…Bajor passed…those who know see how dark that idea is, maybe the Skreans…..

Julian San

It’s pretty damn obvious the REAL reason the Bajorans didn’t want them: They didn’t wanna have to clean up all the flaked skin! Oh, and Dominion reference! šŸ‘

Collinson

I think the Screans(sp?) Were very unreasonable. If you need somewhere to live and get offered an entire planet of your own it is a little extreme to expect another planet to accept you in. The ideal situation would be more of a diplomatic relationship between the two civilisations. The Bajorans could give them help settling on the new planet and in return they could give some farming knowledge back. Glad you and the baby are doing well :)

William Rosmer

the universal translator needed to hear them talk to work out the language. it wasn't the woman who learned it it was the computer.

Sonny Smith

The Bajorans are fanatics too, But it is unreasonable to expect Bajor to absorb 3 million immigrants. Either way, Kira is such a well-written, great character.

Neill Shaughness

I agree the Bajorans can be fanatics, but in this instance I don't think they are being unreasonable

Rob Nichols

The Skrreean boy Tumak is played by Andrew Koenig (RIP), son of Walter Koenig (Chekov). Andrew was best known as "Boner" on Growing Pains. Glad you and the baby are doing well. You still look great so don't worry any over the chubby cheeks, though they do make you talk funny lol.

Lee

TNG had one or two "grey area" episodes (such as "Symbiosis"), but DS9 revels in them. I think it's one of the series' strengths. Actor trivia: William Schallert (Varani, the Bajoran musician) appeared in "The Trouble with Tribbles" as officious Federation undersecretary Nilz Baris, who gives Kirk a headache over quadrotriticale.

Zapp Rowsdower

You can't spare one square... acre of land? lol

Banes

The Bajorans seemed to be acting in good faith - with no way to see the future, maybe the Skreans would have been unable to feed themselves, and the struggling Bajorans would have to help them, or maybe the Skreans could have helped with the Bajorans' problems. So that's the dilemma in the end I guess! No easy answer once again!

Sykonee

Feel like this episode needed a two-parter: first half dealing with the First Contact stuff, second with the resettlement plot. That aspect felt rushed, not having time to delve into why it was so important to the Skreeans to immigrate to Bajor instead of a more reasonable alternative. As a result, they come off arrogant and petty when they don't get their way. Was that the point? Given how Bajor's lingering xenophobia was turned back onto Kira, I wonder. Also, I think this was the first time we've seen the Universal Translator 'in action', decoding an alien language for the first time. And I think we can all agree there's a reason why we don't typically see that sort of scene either (the process as portrayed in Star Trek: Beyond notwithstanding).

Desmond

Yeah. I found it interesting that they gave the Skrreeans some genuinely off-putting characteristics.

Brian Moore

In the age of replication, famine should not exist. Bajor really needs to get on that.

EmptyDice

Replication still requires material and energy, both need to be produced or extracted, which takes labor that needs to be paid for. It makes food much less expensive, but it still has a price.

Carlos Stevens

Jen, I did not know you were pregnant... But, I did notice you were getting a little puffy; so I figured something was going on. Congratulations BTW!

Summer

You are doing great, take time for you when possible

Summer

Some might not like Nog and Quark in this episode but Nog is normal and Quark is almost better than usual still focusing on acquiring

Summer

More and more I think Jake Sisko should be an ambassador

Rob Nichols

I think a good alternative solution would be to have a small group of Skrreeans work the land on Bajor while the rest settle the new planet. If they're successful it would benefit Bajor as well as the Skrreeans. If not then the settlement on the new planet would still be there.

Summer

Except I am starting to suspect the Skreans were sent by their ā€˜liberators’

phillip giroux

I think the writers purposely made them a little unpleasant, not evil of ill intended, just unpleasant, like folks you wouldn't really want around you, to illustrate that just because you don't especially like someone does it mean that they shouldn't have the right to self determination? A question of the rights of an indigenous peoples to turn away outsiders for whatever reasons they deem fit as opposed to refugees having a bigger say in the course of their own future.

Mastervodo

Does anyone else think "How is there a famine on Bajor when there are replicators?" Not enough replicators? Replicate some!

TC Green

Sort of the same problem with ā€œProgress.ā€ How much energy could that moon really provide? The number of houses quoted as it heating is less than 1 million. A single fusion reactor off a retired starship should be more than enough for their basic energy needs.

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

I was so sure you were going to go with your usual pizza order, J, and then you surprised me with the churros.

John DiGiantomasso

Hey! The guy playing the flute was Federation Undersecretary Nilz Baris from Space Station K-7! I bet he's still pissed the Tribbles ate his Quadro-Triticale...

Andrew Roach

Hmmm, second mention of the Dominion.

Bobby Coolbreeze

Those refugees were in the wrong The federation has a nice tidy planet for them! But they didn’t wanna hear it! And who or what is the Dominion? šŸ¤”šŸ˜‰

Bobby Coolbreeze

I don’t think you can rely on replicators alone they still need power to run them The Cardassians probably strip mined Bajor and robbed them of lot of their natural resources.

scott osborne

there's that word again jen Dominion bajor did the right thing and they did the wrong thing these people could of ended the famine on bajor or they could of made it worse how's your little baby boy doing i hope he's doing well

Summer

Without spoilers I have suspicions about these Skreans…..

Summer

Because Bajor isn’t part of the Federation you will find there really is little beyond having a presence the Federation can do for Bajor to rebuild. They could provide few supplies because Bajor isn’t a member, so Bajor has few replicarors, their tech was mostly destroyed by Cardassia

Tyrone Tyrone

The Skreans said their historical (religion) text told them they would settle on Kentanna/Bajor and had no interest in integrating with Bajorans or Bajoran rule, which is a recipe for strife and fighting later on. To me, the story was analogous to Zionists and Israel or Palestine. šŸ––šŸæ

Sleeper

They didn't say they wouldn't integrate either. They wanted to work with the Bajorans so integration would have been inevitable. Expecting conflict from the onset is a good way to make sure there will be.

Sleeper

Replicators still need raw materials and power to make things. They don't just create things from nothing.

Sleeper

Disagree, a middle ground could have been found, but none was. The unknown question was if the farmers could help them or would have hurt them. Neither way is for sure, but to say NONE of them can come there and then kill one of their people... I have a hard time thinking they would work with the Bajorans on anything anytime soon.

Tyrone Tyrone

Saying from the outset that they want to work with instead of becoming Bajorans shows their intention to remain separate. Integration would not have been inevitable. Expecting it to has been proven to be naive.

Richard Higgs

I know this is over a year ago, I am just rejoining and catching up, but wow can you say ungrateful, where else in the whole galaxy could you come out of a wormhole with 3 million refugees and just get handed a planet. Imagine if the Cardassians were still running things, what do you think they would do, or the Klingons or the Romulans, or if they came out of a wormhole and there were the Borg, i'll say it again, ungrateful. Oh, and treating Kira like she was the ruler of Bajor and could just unilaterally decide to let 3 million people settle on the planet, geez, the nerve of those people. Sorry, this episode just ticks me off.