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🖖Star Trek DS9 4x3-4 Full + Watch-along (Patreon)

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2026-02-20 18:16:53
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4 x 3 The Visitor 4 x 4 Hippocratic Oath

**Watch-along (no copy needed to sync) available! LINK BELOW

This week we get a look at a future with a mourning Jake and then Bashir and OB's friendship is tested when they are taken prisoner. Engage! 🖖

🖖** Full Watch-along (no copy needed) available HERE🖖

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Comments

Claude Floyd

Episode 3 is one my favorite Episode in DS9

Geoff S.

I am SOOO happy about these full watch alongs! Awesome!

Ian

Jen-trek Friday are the Vulcan best 🖖 friggin jentastic thumbnail you look horrified, but wow brilliant looking thumb 🔥 looking forward to checking these episodes out tomorrow with snacks ofc 🙂 engage! 🔥🖖

Dylan

Jen posting new full length DS9 reactions is the highlight of my day and week 🔥🖖

Summer

So ready

Fanchman

Are you going to continue with no-copy watch alongs? Not a big issue for me one way or another, but it does make it easier when I'm traveling.

Jen Murray

I can't commit to anything right now, this is a test to see how it goes. It's quite expensive to host all watchalongs on Streamable but I'm not comfortable posting them directly on Patreon. I'll let you guys know if I make a firm decision. For now I will continue the testing with DS9 and possibly a few others

The_Truth

Rest in peace Tony Todd

Michael Tuffin

Thank you, Jen. If you dont mind answering a personal question, is your hair as jet black as it appears in your videos?

Curran Dobbs

Some of the early season 4 episodes were written before the writers knew Worf would be joining the series so Worf's appearances in those episodes were squeezed in last minute.

Mark Chrisco

it was widely reported many of the crew working on the stage became emotional during the filming of this episode.

Banes

After being mindblown by The Way of the Warrior, the show switches gears and The Visitor knocks us out again in a completely different way. Amazing! Agreed that watching it again lets you have the emotional experience. Extra true with that episode. Hippocratic Oath is another great, thought provoking one too. Man, the show is just rockin' now!

Dean

Something that I found super interesting with The Visitor is what we see of the future is a bit of a subversion of the traditional story structure we normally see with this type of time travel story. A future without Sisko isn’t a dystopia for the Galaxy or the Federation; it’s a dystopia *for Jake*. [no spoilers for any of future Trek] It’s a personal story without huge crazy stakes for the Alpha Quadrant or whatever. I really like that.

Banes

It seems like Sisko just being alive will change pretty much everything. Just going from this episode I'd imagine that Nog will still go to Starfleet and hopefully Jake will still pursue writing. The big stuff with the Klingons, and with the Bajorans leaving the station - that can easily not happen at all, or happen differently, because Sisko is here.

Banes

Seen the Visitor quite a few times, so I knew I could hold off the tears for awhile. I made it about nine seconds into the episode I think before the tears started xD

TC Green

The Visitor is one of the best episodes of Star Trek across all shows. Just fantastic.

Summer

In the case of the second episode both Miles and Julian were wrong, Julian was wrong mostly because the head Jem Hadar was stupid when it comes to immunology and medicine forcing Julian into an impossible position, Miles was wrong not working with Julian and them both compromising and escaping

Henchman Twenty1

Many fans consider it not only the best of the series but the best of the franchise. It's #2 for me behind another DS9 episode down the road.

Zapp Rowsdower

The scene when Ben reappears the 2nd time, and they have him on the medical bed, he casually asks Jake how things are going, and Jake can't find find the words and breaks down... such a powerful acting moment for Cirroc Lofton. It gets me every time. Also, Tony Todd knocked it out of the park as adult Jake Sisko. He previously played Worf's brother, Kurn, as well as the title character in Candyman.

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

"My stories stubbornly refused to write themselves" I really enjoy Older Jake/TT's dialogue. He speaks very much like a writer would, or how a writer might write.

Wesley

First time watching The Visitor since the passing of the great Tony Todd, this episode hit and hurts even harder now. The line "After a few months, everything returned to normal, for everyone else", never have I heard a more succinct defintion of how grief feels.

Marcus Hicks

Not sure if this has been mentioned by anyone, but the actress who plays the woman that visits the elderly version of Jake is actually the daughter of the actor who plays Elim Garak.

Matt Poppell

The Visitor is nothing short of an acting masterpiece by Tony Todd. Fantastic writing and acting throughout. Star Trek usually tends to do a “bottle episode” after a big two-parter (to save some budget) and those tend to be weaker episodes, but this one is an exception for sure. It really kicks off season 4 with a bang.

Jeremy Nuss

I think it's awesome you have the watch-alongs now. I still prefer my DVDs on the big screen, but still very cool! :)

Dean

It’s funny to look back in retrospect at ALL of Worf’s interactions with Ferengi on the Enterprise. They were a constant nuisance and enemy. At best, they were annoying to him. It’s like Scotty’s reaction to Worf in Relics: he had only known Klingons as a Problem. So to have someone like Quark in the mix is great.

Ootlander

Was especially useful last week, I couldn't get the version she watched.

Opti_Frog

I had forgotten just how good Hippocratic Oath is. It has so much of what i love about DS9. It is a little on the nose and metatextual for Sisko to just come out and say it to Worf at the end, but even the Jem'Hadar, the ultimate warrior-slaves, are wonderfully complex. The themes of medical ethics and empathy vs military necessity, personal survival and strategic risk is not only fascinating but strikingly moving. All of it actually had me on the verge of tears as Bashir and O'Brien was returning to the station. The world always needs more compassion. I love that Julian Bashir has so much of it. Wow, Tony Todd, man. I was already quite the fan of him when i first saw The Visitor. He was absolutely outstanding as both adult and elderly Jake. My favourite trivia about this episode is that Melanie, the young, aspiring writer who visits Jake, was played by Rachel Robinson, the real-life daughter of actor Andrew Robinson who played Garak. She was latest seen on film in Marvel's Wonder Man, by the way. I urge anyone reading this to stop here, because i'm going to rip into The Visitor a bit. 🙏 I haven't seen The Visitor in years and years, and it felt different this time around. I guess it's because I never really thought about the broader implications of Jake changing past events. Because he's not just changing the past for himself and his father, but for everyone within the range of causality. I'm talking about the butterfly effect. I could be wrong, but i do believe that every Trek episode in the Prime Universe that deals with time travel treats time as linear, which means there's no point in talking about alternate timelines, and i have to think of The Visitor in this way too. Of course, we're not supposed to think about that. This is a story of emotion, not logic. A father and son story. But my mind can't look away from the fact that Jake didn't have any regard for the personal histories of trillions of people, for anything that happens to thousands of species written over his entire lifespan. He has no idea how his choice will affect the past. It might be the biggest temporal shift in the whole franchise, but the only thing Jake cares about is, even as a "wise" old man, is that his younger self gets his dad back. I honestly don't know if i can think of a more selfish and possibly destructive act. On a different note, i never had the love for my father that Jake had for his. I probably don't relate as much as others to this episode for that simple reason. It doesn't rival The Inner Light for me. Still, i think it's a fantastic and totally absorbing episode. I just need to remember to switch off the logic circuits in my brain the next time i watch it. 😋

Bobby Coolbreeze

I’m never home when you released these lol One great all time trek episode The visitor is not only one of DS9’s best top 5 episodes but I would put It up there with TOS The city on the edge of forever and TNG’s Yesterday’s Enterprise! All time travel episodes also Hippocratic Oath is a very good episode that just furthers the dominion plot and explores a little bit of the Jem hadar. They are very similar to the Klingons when it comes to honor.

Julian San

I’d love to get Jen one of those wonderfully uncomfortable looking AF DS9 pillows 😂

Summer

Someone needs to get Jen a DS9 mug and Quarks bar cup

Goddess of Empathy

The Visitor makes me ugly cry every time. Especially after becoming a parent myself. It's a hard watch but so beautifully done.

PJAvenger

Jen! I'm sending 3 commercial breaks, 5 zoom, enances and a full 12 Oh Frigs! to you to continue to provide non-sync episodes. Merci!

Laura Thornley

Okay I'm ready to be emotionally ruined. Again.

Beagle Boy

This is one of the great ones

Slate

Yes

Brian Straight

Jen - "We're in the future!" Me - "Well, ..."

Summer

I am always answering Jen when watching with her

Deathwind21

I have been waiting for this! The Visitor is the episode that made me fall in love with DS9.

Sykonee

It's such a nitpick, but I find The Visitor's only flaw is coming right after WotW. Not as big a deal when you have a week separating the two (like in this instance!), but when binge-watching, it comes off as quite the diversion from the Big Events of the season premier. Oath feels like a more natural follow-up.

Brian Straight

Re: The Visitor - This, for me, is my second most favorite episode in all of Trek (Well, TNG thru Enterprise.) It's well acted (Tony Todd) and story is fantastic and powerful (and the nerd in me loves the thought of it taking place on the paradise of Earth in the 24th and 25th centuries in the Bayou of Louisiana. Your reactions to this were how I was expecting you to react. It's episodes like this that can really deliver a powerful story that you can't do in regular fiction. What Jake goes through and Sisko in this is powerful and Sisko continues knowing all of this. If you watch it again can we get that one too? Be interesting to see you pick up things.(Or at least a video on what you picked up.)

Desmond

Man, DS9 storms into season 4 with a new theme, The Way of the Warrior, Worf, AND the freakin' Visitor? Definitely one of, if not the best seasons of Star Trek ever.

Desmond

And what an episode The Visitor is. It's the type of story you can really only tell on Trek. And hits all the emotional feels of its premise. Superbly written, acted, and directed. Definitely Todd's most emotional and moving performance in his Trek career.

TheADHDOverlord

any fellow Trekkies playing the just released Star Trek Voyager Across The Unknown??? I am just realllllly enthused about the Game and ways the same approach could be used throughout Trek...

Galactic74

I don't know if you noticed but in The Visitor the reason Jake is dying is because he took poison to break the anchor

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

I think that Hippocratic Oath is supposed to be the one that explains to us, the audience, why in fact we haven't arrested Quark. It makes more sense for Odo to let Quark continue his mischief if it gives him a window into the greater criminal element on the station, maybe even that entire sector of space. As we can see, Odo is sometimes less like a security officer and more like the local sheriff of a small town.

Bobby Coolbreeze

The Visitor is such a heartfelt episode. It’s so profound and powerful. The love a son has for his father. Jake sacrificed so much to get him back! It’s hard to keep your eyes dry for this one. Tony Todd should have won an Emmy for his performance.

Bobby Coolbreeze

Worf’s job on the station is more broad than just Star fleet logistics. As a strategic operation officer he is more like the station’s or the Bajoran Sector Tactical officer when on the Star fleet side of things and outside threats like the Klingons and the Dominion. He coordinates intelligence, military tactics and other Star fleet business for Sisko. Kira is his superior officer as far as the station command structure. Kira is the first officer and the Bajoran liaison officer. Worf is like the 2nd officer of DS9, like Data who was the second officer and operations officer on the Enterprise. Although things are a little different on a Star Ship vs an outpost or Starbase. As the show goes on you will see more details of what he does and how Captain Sisko utilizes him. Also Chief O’Brien is the actual operations officer and chief engineer for the station itself when comes to actual station technical functions and maintenance/repairs.

Markus W.

Here I go crying again… The Visitor always hit me hard, but it's a lot harder now that my dad has passed. Also Tony Todd did such a great job as Old!Jake and now he's gone too 😢

Michael B.

Jen, I've been enjoying your Patreon channel for some time now, and I've noticed that you sometimes appear to have diffuculties recognizing objects or people on your screen that are a little further away and therefore appear smaller. For example, the shuttle in the new DS9 title sequence. You thought it was the Defiant. I notice moments like this where you are unsure at what you are looking at in many of your reactions. I don't know the reason. But if it's because you're watching on a smaller screen, you should consider switching to a larger one. If you don't want to have a big screen in the room where you shoot your videos, there are now laptops with relatively large (18-inch) screens. That way you can store it away when you're done.

Gábor Árki

The Visitor is one of those episodes that lingers with you long after watching it. It's a powerful reminder that you don't need a massive budget, elaborate effects, or nonstop action for making great sci-fi. Sometimes, all it takes is a compelling story, strong writing, and great performances. Tony Todd delivered such a great, emotional performance as old Jake. I was really looking forward to seeing this reaction and it was a treat to watch. Episodes like this are showcase how great Star Trek used to be in what you might call a "filler", which mostly died out due to the limited 8-10 episode seasons we are getting nowadays in the age of streaming. I would like to recommend a movie, The Man from Earth (2007), which also features Tony Todd, and is similarly a very idea-driven story. It's one of the most thought-provoking sci-fi films I've ever seen, despite being driven almost entirely just a conversation.

Ian

Really enjoyed both episodes , finishing an episode all misty eyed because of Teardrop's isnt something I thought I'd experience with DS9 , I could tell you were emotional too Jen , that's what great acting can do to us . Btw what the frig did you do to your thumb ?

Brendon Waldron

The Visitor, the episode that makes you wanna call your dad after and tell him you love him...

ParallaxNick

RIP to the incredible Tony Todd. A Trek legend and beyond.

ParallaxNick

Non-spoiler things from "The Visitor" that appear in the actual Trek future: the combadges and 3D holographic spaceship controls.

John DiGiantomasso

One thing about DS9 is that they "go there" to just tell really great stories. They leave the conventional setting and go to a different place and time and just absolutely rock it with writing, directing, and acting. The Visitor is a prime example of that. The two-part set in the 2020s with the Bell Riots is another. Bell Riots: Social Commentary. Visitor: Emotion. Upcoming examples: humor, morality, fun, so many more... For me personally, I go with the "Austin Powers Time Travel" advice when he says "It's best not to think about such things, and just sit back and enjoy the movie." Yes, Star Trek and DS9 create universes. But their main purpose is to entertain us and tell stories. So I grant the writers the absolute freedom to do that. So silly promises, thin plot devices, technical gobbledygook, do what you need to do to establish the premise and let 'er rip! You own me. I WANT to be entertained! It takes courage to do this. Yes, some people will complain - "what this episode fails to consider is that..." Yeah, sure. They DID fail to consider that. Because that was neither their point or their purpose. They just wanted to tell a great story and entertain us. SO many episodes to come in DS9 that do this. It's like the writers think, Wouldn't it be cool if..." and then they build an episode around that. Blood Oath is my favorite example of this. Some people consider these episodes problematic, or distractions from the main plot. The writers don't care; they want to show their craft and tell their stories. "And I'm okay with that." 😉

Desmond

Yeah, you really can only do a story like The Visitor on Trek. Makes good use of the technobabble, for once.

John DiGiantomasso

I just finished Ep4. Great reaction on this - a classic tale of multiple "good guys" whose goals, motivations, and actions were all in conflict. So who was right? All of them. And none of them. Sisko's talk of grays ruled on the planet, not just on DS9. Breaking down Worf's job title, he is responsible for "Sector Strategic Operations." Not for DS9, but for the entire sector. And not local operations or tactical operations such as what ships are arriving and what supplies do they need? That is logistics. Strategic Operations is balancing resources and requirements. Where do the ships need to be? Which is best suited for each role? What are the hotspots needing attention, and what can wait? What Federation resources that we don't have now do we need to be lining up to be here when needed? What resources do we have that don't address current or future needs, and can they be swapped out for something better suited to address those needs? You've got twenty concurrent issues with needs totaling 62 units. You have 37 units available. How many do you choose to send to each need? Do you concentrate on fully addressing a few, or do you address more situations with less resources than they truly need? Tough choices. To me, that is strategic operations - with emphasis on the "strategic." What can we get done with what we have? Study the problem, come up with your best recommendation, and pass it along to your captain who will then accept, modify, or disregard it when making his recommendations to Star Fleet.

Struzzylive

Ive been considering it for awhile now. Is it as good as im hearing?

TheADHDOverlord

i am loving it. a lite-Roguelike Simulation Resource Management game where you make the choices about trying to get the ship home.... it is just perfect for Voyager. I already had an issue where I ran into Jetrel, and had a 75% chance to have Neelix talk to him... but failed the RNG, which meant that we refused to let Jetrel onboard, and that had fatal consequences for a crew mate later. I love it so far.

Fr. Brench

I've never really analysed this theme music before. You're asking good questions, though... I don't think the time signature necessarily changed. The original version provided no grounding beats, let alone subdivisions, so it gave a very "floaty" feel to it. The new synth bass here forces that open-ended theme to be heard alongside a regular beat. I wonder if they even match? This could be an example of polyrhythm. If there are any other music theory nerds here, let's put our heads together and figure this out! (Or if you already have, spill the beans!)

David Combe

God, the Visitor is such a masterclass in Television. We spend the first 8 minutes with complete unknowns to us, and even that is so masterfully acted, so rich with story. It just hits you unlike anything else. And then you have the rest of the episode and that too is just.....oh god this episode is so good and Deep Space Nine from Season 4 onwards is why I joined here. It's really THAT good.

David Combe

Oh and I just finished it again and I fucking weeped like a baby. It's the pinnacle of Star Trek's emotional eps imho. There is of course more to come, but none of them hit the highs of this. I'd rate it over Inner Light too. This plays off the very real Sisko and Jake relationship, whereas inner light is wholly a constructed reality. It is ultimately a What if, but my god, what a fucking masterfull what if.

Marcus Hicks

Well, I lasted a whole 2 minutes before I started to cry. That music at the beginning really hit me HARD! 😭

Marcus Hicks

Which is what DS9 is meant to be the equivalent of.....a frontier town.

Marcus Hicks

It is up there with Season 4 of TNG.....a massive season opener, followed by a slower, more reflective episode.

Marcus Hicks

Just FYI. The device that Sisko is working on at the end of Episode 4 is the clock he designed whilst under the influence of those psychic spheres back in the Season 1 episode "Dramatis Personae".

PianoDean

This is the greatest episode of Star Trek period....ALL iterations. One of the greatest episodes of television of any genre of all time. I cry every time....the music really inspires a lot of emotion. Great acting as well.