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Talking Simpsons - Goo Goo Gai Pan (Patreon)

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"Jub-Jub can't take care of me when I'm old and sick. All he can do is eat me when I'm dead" - Selma Bouvier

The perpetually unlucky in love Selma suddenly experiences menopause symptoms, making her mothering urge rise to previously unseen levels. Thankfully, she finds China's baby girl surplus will solve all of her problems—as long as she's willing to play Homer's wife.

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Tyler The Destroyer

Probably the first time I encounter the idea of menopause was in the All in the family episode “ Edith’s problem” I actually watched it with my mom. It was our show much like The Simpsons was the show for Henry and his mom. She explained to me how she watched it with her mother, and it really helped her understand how you kind of go through a second puberty I’ve watched it recently and it still holds up Jean Stapleton’s emotional range as that quirky Edith Bunker is still legend Great show guys, keep it up!

jojojoboco

Selma is maybe the most underrated character in the entire show. She has a lot of emotional depth, complex relationships with many of the other characters, and a lot of genuinely amazing jokes.

Sara Syd

The notion of Dana Gould "rescuing" the girls from where their culture is from is strange to me. Obviously I don't know the specifics of the situation, either from the Gould/Naegle parents' end or the why the girls were put up for adoption, but there is sometimes a "white saviour" element to international and cross-cultural adoptions. But likely not the case with the Goulds, just the idea of Gould maybe suggesting he was rescuing them reminded me a bit that

marathedemon

Please don’t think that just because the US has committed atrocities China’s poor record should be ignored. There are plenty of terrible things actively being perpetrated by the Chinese government (Uyghurs anyone?) and our global economy means we are complicit (where is all our shit made?). The fact that you can’t explicitly name any atrocities done by China only serves to highlight the power of their government’s efforts of censorship. I mean you talk about how the US should focus on its own issues then immediately go on about how Disney has censored themselves for the Chinese market. You think what happens in China doesn’t have an effect here? Basically, both the US government and China’s should be treated with contempt (as most countries governments should).

Don

It's not surprising Bob and Henry would basically hand wave away all of China's issues to spend more time complaining about America. I'd say at least be funny about it but that's not their style

marathedemon

America is bad and should be complained about.

F Shackleford

Your discussion in this episode brought to mind the feeling I've basically had most of my life as a Chinese American that ultimately our belonging and acceptance in America is tenuous, although admittedly it always has been throughout American history. Even in politically "gentler times" over the last 30 years, there is always a weird unease I would get when even left-leaning politicians and cultural figures spout some pretty alarming rhetoric about the country where my relatives happen to live, or take an unusual amount of glee in pointing out the atrocities of the Chinese government in the same tone used for marking other global "bad guy" countries that are the others to American hegemony. I'm not saying China as a political entity is not rightly deserving of criticism, but the way this often gets expressed makes you question how people really feel about you, or what camps they might put you in when push comes to shove. And as for the types of comments that are like "what are we, communist China?", I'll just add that Chinese history is long, and at basically that whole time the populace was living under some kind of despot. Even the brief period when the Republic of China was established on the mainland was still ruled by a military junta, so no, we are not new to this. Regarding the episode, although it certainly tracks as humor of that era, ultimately I'm inclined to give Dana Gould some benefit of the doubt when it comes to the content of the jokes. Based on all the information about his interests in wacky Americana that have come up through the years on the TS network, it seems likely that a guy like him just isn't compatible with such a different culture and that's okay. He got to write an episode based on his experience with adopting his children and that sentiment ultimately comes through, so it's fine if he goes back to his usual wheelhouse to do the stuff we know him for.

Super Engine

Nothing happened at Tiananmen Square and Robert Wagner did not kill Natalie Wood. The “I hope you washed your hands first” joke has stuck with me for some reason and i find myself quoting it a lot.

Les Whinen

Ive never seen this ep before. I was checked out by 2001. This is bafflingly bad

Ian Stratton

They really should've given James Hong a call. The Simpsons is like the one TV show he hasn't acted on.

Tyler M.

I've yet to listen to the episode, but also watched this for the first time last week and yeah...Henry and Bob are doing god's work here.

Mike Kachur

I know it's probably my late-millenial/early-Gen-Z bias speaking, but I absolutely think Robots is worth a WACM podcast! It definitely looks like another Dreamworks-style kids movie of the time (and in many ways, it is), but there is some of the most explicitly leftist, anti-capitalist, collectivist messaging I've ever seen in a movie of its ilk. Also, since I doubt you'll ever cover Rolie Polie Olie and (maybe) Meet the Robinsons, it would be really nice to hear you cover the charming, futuristic world of William Joyce, which will always hold a special place in my heart.

Bob Mackey

FUN FACT: Selma's daughter is named "Ling"

Guy Incognito

Glad for another episode of Talking Dana Gould, could do without the brief asides about The Simpsons, though.

Talking Simpsons

He's the one who decided to make the episode autobiographical! - Bob

PurpleComet

Did they ever say where Maggie is while they're in China? When Madame Wu said Selma was being insulting to her other kids I realized Maggie isn't with them but unless I missed it they never addressed that.

JoshuaMartian

Vivid memory of faking sick to stay home from shool and my reward was watching this exceptionally middling episode which I'd taped the night before, followed by whatever was on free to air TV- let's say, Baby Looney Tunes. On reflection, school might have been more fun.

Jeremy Hawkins

I appreciate the trepidation to dig into Chinese politics because as westerners we have oops all skewed perspectives. Theres far right who say they’re communists trying to destroy America, the weirder part of the far left who say they’re communists trying to destroy America (but that’s good), the center whose general vibe can be felt in this episode, and the broader left who kind of throw their hands in the air and say “ it doesn’t seem great, but I mainly don’t want to go to war with them over Taiwan.” I’d say generally the thing with China and the US is that they’re the two global superpowers, but they’re both in decline and fighting to remain dominant despite that. The US has this cycle of boom and bust that we’re all familiar with, but with China they spent the last period with construction as the engine of their economy. That has collapsed and they’ve tried to fill that hole with AI, electric cars, and solar, but they can’t quite fill that hole and their economy is in a downward spiral that under capitalism can only be filled with imperialism. And yeah while I’d say both the US and China are bad, I want to point out that I’m in an organization of international socialist and our Chinese, Taiwan, Hong Kong branch have to operate underground. Generally speaking the project of the Chinese working class is the same as the American and Swedish and Palestinian and we need to find ways to link the struggle together in a true international struggle

Nick Gwags

There’s actually a really interesting documentary on the origins of general tsos chicken. I believe it’s called the search for general tso.

Bob Mackey

Appreciate the thoughtful response!

Jeremy Hawkins

No problem! If you're interested in learning more here's the website of the Canadian branch of the organization I'm in https://socialistalternative.ca/ (our American site is .com) where they have articles from all over the world, but Canada would probably be good for you, since I imagine like me like 40% of the Canadian socialist news you get is from Luke Savage and it's good to have a second opinion. I visited Vancouver in april for their Canadian conference and they're nice! Also if you see socialist alternative organizing around Vancouver, stop and talk to them for like 5 minutes, they'd be excited to hear your thoughts on Canada and the world and let you know about stuff going on in the city. We strive to be the least weird people talking about socialism on the streets lol. The same is true for Seattle Henry! The only issue is you might run into me, who will try to talk to you about NRBQ.

CitizenMeh

Death of a Salesman in China was pretty big deal- important to remember America had no official relations with the PRC until the early 70s, and Mao was no fan of corrupting Western media. It really was daring and novel to stage a modern US play in a country back then- whilst Bob's assertion about US cultural ubiquity is true today, it wasn't so much back then.

Gavi Raab

I like the detail of Burns having the driver seat on the right side of his car, but I don't think they stay consistent with this gag throughout the scene. Also I became a father in 2024 and my newborn daughter stayed in the room with my wife and me the entire time in the maternity ward. The nursery is apparently a thing of the past. Unsure if this is just our hospital that did this or if it's the new standard across the US. Unfortunately, newborn nursery room gags might become a thing of the past.

DouFu

Something kinda funny about the line “sorry if [hen for your cock] is a double entendre in your language, it’s not in ours” — one slang/juvenile word for penis in Chinese is jiji (鸡鸡) or jiba (鸡巴), ji being the word and character for chicken (鸡). Though to be fair, that doesn’t specify the sex of the chicken (which would be muji for hen and gongji for cock, 母鸡/公鸡), so I suppose the line is still accurate. Not a native, I just studied for many years and you tend to uhh learn these kinds of things 😬

Nathanial Miller

Lol a 'potential daughter ' weird pro trafficking talk also the Dali lama was a ruthless theocratic. Look it up.

RVG

I'm adopted, as were each of my siblings, tho only one was international. My parents didn't have to go to Korea to get my brother tho. He was flown in from an orphanage. Growing up, we celebrated Airplane Day, the day he arrived, and I thought for the longest time it was just a minor holiday like Arbor Day or something. I have a lot more thoughts about the topic of adoption, especially international adoption, and what is ethical and not, but it's too big a topic for here. Suffice it to say, Gould's attitude towards it doesn't feel great, even if he was well meaning. Hope things worked out well for the kids.

Tyler Rampley

I see comments like this from time to time and I’m always curious as to why people like you are here if you don’t like the hosts and think they’re unfunny. This isn’t a public forum, you pay monthly to be here and I don’t know why you’d do that. Buy a sandwich with that money or something