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Talking Simpsons - The Crepes Of Wrath (Revisited) With Kat Bailey (Patreon)

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2020-04-15 04:00:00
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2020-04-24 21:59:15
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2026-06
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We all take an unplanned trip to France and our guide is returning guest/USG Editor-In-Chief Kat Bailey! We discuss the power of cherry bombs, the first appearance of Agnes, and how we forgot this is a king of aimless episode of the series. Plus, we learn a thing or two about wine, antifreeze, and classic French literature in this week's international episode!!

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Drew Waranis

First off, it is always great to have Kat back! Her appearances introduced me to Axe of the Blood God and it is to RPGs what y'all are to The Simpsons! So, thank you for having the coolest guests! I'm sure you mentioned this on earlier episode, but while I did a quick wiki search to make a "Richard Gibbs drinking challenge" literally killed me quip... I saw that Richard Gibbs was a former member of Danny Elfman's Oingo Boingo and all the pieces fell into place.

Tekrelm

I'm planning to move to France, so I've been teaching myself French for over a year. Because of that, I was able to see this episode in a new light this time around. I'm not at all qualified to judge the accuracy of the accents, but I was able to understand most of the French spoken in this episode without looking at the subtitles, so it seemed to me that they did a really good job! Also, the last time I watched this episode, all that talk about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers went right over my head. But this time, it made me bust up laughing. I've only recently become aware of such things, so it shocked me to hear it from this old episode; it was there all along! Crazy.

Drew Waranis

Season 31's "Bart the Bad Guy" confirms that Skinner wears a toupée. :(

Frank Grimes

It annoyed me that a recent episode (I think it was actually from this current season) where they have some French speaking at school, and Bart is clueless. I know I shouldn't take the continuity seriously, but they had a Camp Krusty sequel episode, so they are aware of past eps!

Echo Cimarron

It's not wine, but a more recent controversy surrounding someone putting antifreeze in the booze was when some Scandinavian countries temporarily stopped the sale of Fireball cinnamon whiskey in 2014 due to it containing too much propylene glycol, the active ingredient in some antifreeze. Nothing really shady was going on, small amounts are safe to injest and different countries have different legal limits, plus you'd get alcohol poisoning long before the propylene glycol caused any problems, but that didn't stop wild rumors to make the rounds on social media. (Here's the Snopes entry if anyone's curious for more details: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schnapp-judgment/ )

Randy Peterson

I don't want to be that guy, but um...Chateau Maison doesn't mean House House, it would translate to Castle House.

Thad Komorowski

"Louise" was a staple of the Winston Sharples-scored Famous Studios cartoons of the '40s and '50s, and sometimes sung (Bluto sings it in "Klondike Casanova"), so it wasn't that out of a 1990 TV addicted child's frame of reference.

ShyRanger

I definitely agree with you guys that Skinner was at the very least scammed by the two frenchmen to send a kid because it was free. It fits with later seasons of how poor Springfield Elementary is. The school that took forever to afford one computer and doesn't have an accurate periodic table is credit enough for this exchange program? Not unless it's shady.

Frank Grimes

Holy crap, I think I watched that french film about the well in my HS french class

Joe Hodgson

Donut Talk: The soundtrack for The Simpsons Movie also features a disc design like a donut. The Special Edition (which I have) even comes in a takeout donut-styled box with a complete donut on the cover, but Homer lurking. The CD then features the donut with a bite taken out of it with purple goo inside (Purple's a fruit) with the donut itself clearly being a standard, hole in the center, donut. But wait! In 2019, Krispy Kreme released a special Reese's donut that is also shaped like a standard donut, but does have peanut butter coursing through it. Obviously, the only conclusion one can draw from this is that The Simpsons predicted it. This episode is definitely my least favorite of Season 1. It might be the only episode of The Simpsons I would pass over when it came on during syndicated runs. It's just miserable, the French scenes are so drab looking. It feels like after a season of a prankish Bart, someone felt he needed a comeuppance episode and it turned into some weird, parental, snuff film of an episode.

Alex Irish

I thought for sure you’d give the title of “worst season one episode” to Some Enchanted Evening, considering the tumultuous production history behind it. Color me surprised. This episode has the advantage of being a later production episode in the season and therefore it looks more consistent with the second season. I can see you liking this less because of its dreary tone and ponderous pacing. We all know of course that Krusty Gets Busted is the best episode of the season.

Daran

It's funny you guys mention this episode having the house's layout figured out BECAUSE the sequence with Skinner speaking with Marge and Homer is completely wrong!!! Mainly because they completely fucked up what rooms are visible through the archways behind the characters. In this sequence the TV room is visible behind Homer and the staircase is visible behind Skinner. Completely flipped from what it should be, staircase should be visible behind Homer, TV room behind Skinner. Here's some quick mockups I did of what I'm describing. https://imgur.com/a/eClmSHr The BGs do have a good amount of polish compared to earlier episodes, but that sequence has always bugged me in a Genius at Work kind of way. Somewhere someone in the BG department got confused.

Kat Heagberg

I too didn’t fly in a plane until after high school. It was my mom’s first flight too, and she was 55 (!) Yesterday during our daily mental-health pandemic run, I was telling my boyfriend all of the things my parents told me were only for rich people when I was growing up. They included: flying, owning encyclopedias, owning a computer (oddly enough, my dad convinced my mom to finally get a computer in the latest of ‘90s by telling her my sister and I could finally have access to an encyclopedia that way) , piano lessons, any premium cable channels, pay per view, non-free Blockbuster rentals (also why I saw “Cartoon Allstars to the Rescue” a zillion times), staircases (I truly thought any of my friends who lived in two-story houses were millionaires), camping, and call waiting. Ah, memories of growing up upper lower middle class in the Midwest! Just as the Simpsons did for me as a young child, Bob’s reflections on his seemingly similar upbringing make me feel far less alone. (Also stoked time have Kat back! I always enjoy her episodes.)

Fredison

I listened to this thinking I would write a comment mentioning how the Quebec dub handled the policeman scene, but I was pleasantly surprised to hear you beat me to it. It was still odd to watch as a kid, both in Canadian French AND English, because to put it charitably, Nancy Cartwright's French is not very good! I'd actually be curious to know how the France French dub handled that scene, though I wouldn't blame them if they had skipped the episode entirely.

Guybrush

Random and useless reaction to this episode: the police officer speaks in a very similar cadence and accent to the conductors in the game The Last Express.

mavrick

simpsons wiki and IMDB says that Christian Coffinet voiced the French police officer.

Joe Kafchinski

I knew three things about Albania before this episode, and they can all be summarized in song (to the tune of "When the Saints Go Marching In"): Alban-i-a Alban-i-a You border on the Adriatic Your land is mostly mountainous And your chief export is crude This was a classic Cheers bit from just a few years before this episode, where Coach was trying to help Sam study by setting facts to song (if it works for Real Estate exams, why not countries?) The joke is that it's a completely nonsensical song that wouldn't help anyone learn anything, yet 35 years later I certainly don't remember where the Adriatic Sea is, but I know Albania borders it.

DrKarate

I have fond memories of this episode because when I was a teen I went to France on a class trip, so whenever it was on in syndication I watched it. The most memorable thing about the trip was going to a fondue restraunt for dinner where served drinks out of glass baby bottles, nipple and all. It was, as the French say, fucking weird.

Kevin OReilly

Doctor checking in! Antifreeze(ethylene glycol) is frequently consumed by alcoholics and sometimes dogs as it’s sweet and it gets you drunk, but you can die from a metabolic acidosis. Methanol is the alcohol adulterant that makes you blind, typically found in home brew moonshine.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

I agree with Kat that the episode isn't terrible or even boring, but ultimately I don't find it funny almost at all, and to me that's it's biggest sticking point. The stuff that happens to Bart is mostly just distressing (as you guys discussed) and everything else is a clever idea that isn't played well (at best). This episode isn't the worst of the season, certainly, especially as it has competent animation, but it's easily on the lower end of things. I'd revisited it so infrequently that when TalkingSimpsons first did it back in 2015 I actually did not remember what the hell this episode even was. -- Also Kat was a great guest, as always, and I heartily endorse her appearing in whatever episodes she would like.

nina matsumoto

I really don’t get all the hate for this composer. Tell me I’m not the only one!

GloomyCleric

Hi guys, long time listener firtst time commenter. Great episode as always. I’m loving your season one revisit. Now time to geek out about Albanian history because it’s weird. The reason why there are bunkers all over Albania is because their longest serving leader, Enver Hoxha was super paranoid and thought Albania would be invaded by their enemies. The logic was that the bunkers would even out the odds in case of an invasion. Bunker construction was dangerous and many workers died while constructing them(70-100 a year). (ok I forgot who said it, it might have been Bob) Albania was not really part of the Eastern Bloc. They were in the Warsaw Pact but they withdrew in 1968 after the Warsaw Pact’s invasion of Czechoslovakia(they were the only country to ever formally withdraw from the Warsaw Pact). Enver Hoxha was a huge Stalin fanboy. He soured on the “revisionist turn” of the Soviet Union when Khrushchev got into power. They broke relations with the Soviet Union soon after. Interestingly enough the only other big country Albania had relations with was China. Hoxha flirted with Maoism until Nixon’s visit to China, he threw a fit, and broke relations with China soon after. Hoxha died in 1985 and the communist government of Albania fell in 1991. It was more of an internal collapse because the Party of Labour(the Albanian communist party) tried and failed to keep the country together after Hoxha died. Crazy to think that the only other famous Albanian American besides Jim Belushi is Martin Shkreli.

Andrew Bouvier

I've never been to France, but I have story about people I know who went. Like Bob and Henry, I went to high school in the late 90's and graduated in 2000. My senior year, there were two international trips that students from different language classes went on. I was in the Latin class and went to Italy, and several of my friends were in the French class and went to France. The trips were at the same time in the spring, and a week or so before we all left, a bunch of friends and I went to the movies and saw, of all things, Final Destination. In case you don't remember which movie in that series is which, the first one opens with a plane full of teenagers going to France HORRIFICALLY EXPLODING. As if that wasn't bad enough, the name of the high school in the movie was actuality the same as our high school. A lot of kids were freaked out, though not enough to cancel an expensive trip to France, but it was certainly one of the strangest coincidences in my life. Thankfully, their plane did not explode and the trip was uneventful, so I'm told.

PurpleComet

TV Guide declared this the best episode of the Simpsons and the 17th best episode (out of 100) of any TV series. As I recall the main reason for placing it so high was the scene where Bart rides past several paintings. This article was written in 1997 at the height of Season 8 so there were plenty of better candidates. The only other Simpsons episode to make the list is "Krusty Gets Kancelled" at 66, which they mistakenly list as "Gabbo is Fabbo"

Vulpes

I hate to be that guy (though I will be); Hoxha is pronounced Ho-sha. This revisit has been excellent so far, and it would be great to see other early seasons reexamined with the current format (the originals are still good, but they feel like appetizers by comparison).

Caleb Minnick

I think I remember reading a comment years ago from a native French speaker that the accents sound awful and weird. He also said that when this was shown in France the villains were changed to Germans or something else.

Robert Flaxman

I know it's just a plot device, but I gotta say, REALLY BAD JOB by that gendarme. He may not know a word of English (although he knows enough to know that it's English specifically?) but how do you, as an officer of the law, encounter a disheveled, unescorted child who doesn't speak French in the middle of your French town, he's CLEARLY trying to get your assistance with something, and your only response is "Sorry kid, I don't speak English. Have a piece of candy!" Fuck that guy. I hope he didn't get any sort of promotion for cracking the antifreeze case thanks to Bart.

Sean Riley

just wanted to mention you absolutely should not feel bad for the grape-stomping lady, she forced the winery people to move the safety railing (against their concerns) to get a better shot and there are a ton of people who say she was a nightmare to work for

Kris

I took two and a half years of Spanish in high school and learned nothing It was just a bunch of work sheets I learned way more Spanish delivering pizza to Hispanic neighborhoods (btw they where usually the most consistent tippers) Im far from fluent but I can get the gist of most conversations