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Talking Mission Hill - Kevin Vs. the SAT (or Nocturnal Admissions) (Patreon)

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2020-05-29 04:01:00
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Mission Hill hits its midway point with a Kevin-focused episode about the trials of getting into a good college—namely, Yale. When the Jolly Boys find out good grades alone won't get them into the Ivy League, they set out to break the code of the SATs in order to get a perfect score. Meanwhile, Posey's poorly worded classified ad makes the outside world see her as less of a masseuse and more of a sex worker. Will Kevin and the boys make their collegiate dreams come true? And will Andy and Posey survive their encounter with a genuine pimp? Keep your love of Captain Janeway to yourself and get ready for another great episode!

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dave s

The whole cracking the SAT code plot is clearly a parody of the Darren Aronofsky movie Pi, particularly Kevin seeing the double 800s on the scoreboard after he gets dazed, Mr. Pencil hanging out in the coffee shop all night, and the techno music computer montages. The plot of Pi concerned a mathematician cracking a code underlying the stock market and also the true name of God, which slowly drives him mad. Kevin's computer rig with its innards scattered all over his room is the same as the set up of Pi' s protagonist. The movie came out in 1998 and is fairly well known (at least to film hipsters ) but I could see Mission Hill making references too cool for you cartoon nerds. Check out the soundtrack, it's really killer.

reid

blugh, I went to a non-yale ivy league because my parents made SURE that I went to a "good school" and it was misery! I wish I would have relaxed and gone to a CC and learned 100% of the same crap. Blech!

I.C. Weiner

I have a very similar story to Henry about AP English. Halfway through Junior year of high school I transferred from a school that offered AP English Junior year to a school that only offered honors that year. My new English teacher physically modeled himself after Hemingway and was a complete ass to me. After spending about a week with me he was convinced I was an idiot and told me I belonged in regular English. I was over school and didn't care. Because I already took AP for a semester I was still registered for the test (and the only one at the school for that particular test). One day I had to tell him I was missing class as the AP English test conflicted with his class, and he absolutely thought I was lying to ditch class and reiterated that I was too dumb to take the test. After I showe him proof he let me take the test, and ended up passing it.

Chris Dobson

I was so good at the SAT and test-taking in general that I taught the test during and slightly after law school. The secret is, if you know what's on the test and prepare for it, you can take someone like Kevin that could easily get a 1400 and get them a 1550 without too much work. Learning time management and when to take a good guess versus when to leave a blank (you can generally get an 800 with one blank on each math and verbal, wrong answers hurt more than blanks) immediately boosts your score. I had kids jump upwards of 250 points just from an 8 week course. As far as the show goes, I don't think this ep is nearly as good as the last two, and I really think Kevin is the worst character on the show.

Matt Bixler! Hello!

So as a long time Voyager defender I would be remiss if I didn't explain that Janeway's presence in that conversation is actually kinda interesting! The elevator pitch of Star Trek: Voyager is that a starship crew is launched so far across the galaxy that using conventional methods to travel back to earth would take them over eighty years, and the series is about their efforts to make it home. While a very episodic series as a whole, one of the big arcs of the series is watching Captain Janeway's resolve tested over and over until her morals and her dedication to Starfleet's ethos bend in favor of her obsession to get her crew home. I'd be interested to know where in Voyager's timeline this show was written, whether George would have brought up "We are Starfleet and we will act according to the Prime Directive" Janeway, "I will sacrifice whatever I have to to get this crew home even if it's my ethics" Janeway, or something in between. Incidentally, if anyone is ever interested in a quick taste of what makes Voyager and Janeway so great, I'd recommend watching the two parter "Year of Hell" and letting your opinion of the episodes inform whether or not you should watch the rest of the series. Great episode, great series, keep up the great work!

Loreal Harris

*giggles* I like the bling blonging in the episode ya know

Tyler The Destroyer

I don’t normally catch things that you guys don’t immediately catch before, But I think I did this episode! When Kevin goes to see the crazy pencil guy he is walking down Proctor Street Only because I’ve had to do the damn job I know that a “Proctor” Is a person who monitors students who are taking tests like the SATs Lmao

Tyler The Destroyer

Lmao That one made me chuckle so much for how on then nose it was lol

So Many Bits

I taught how to take the SATs for a decade, they are dumb and should be put in a garbage can. Chris above is right that you can do a lot to boost your score by knowing the right way to take the test, especially skipping some questions rather than taking a wild guess.

Frank Grimes

How appropriate this is an SAT episode, when the UC system is supposedly going to drop SAT/ACT requirements for admission

SomeBloke

The most unrealistic part of this episode is the idea that a perfect SAT with no extracurriculars and/or massive "donations" would guarantee you admission to Yale.

Micah

I also watched Stealing Harvard a bunch of times, not because of Jason Lee, but because it was directed by Kids in the Hall allum, Bruce Mccullough. Same reason why I convinced my 12 year old self that "The Godson" starring “Le Poupee” himself Kevin McDonald was a great movie

Burt Stanton

Bob's lament of college feels very familiar to me. I too grew up in a shitty Ohio town with no imagination and spent 3 years and lots of money attending Kent State before deciding there was nothing there for me. Fortunately since that time I've become a pretty big wheel down at the cracker factory so everything worked out fine

twistedmentat

Wasn't this based on the movie Pi? There they're looking for a pattern in the Stock Market, but the idea is the same. I'm a few years older than Bob and Henry, but i got the exact same thing, you got to school and get good grades, then you go to university and get good marks and then you just get a job. Yea, fat good that did me. Why I've been working crappy retail jobs my entire life. Though in Canada we don't have the SATs, so your marks in school are even more important

Bob Mackey
>>38076102

We admittedly totally missed the Pi thing even though this episode is an obvious parody. It's one of those movies that seemed like a big deal in the late '90s but is now mostly forgotten.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag (edited)

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2026-09-07 10:00 As a Canadian whose main frame of reference for the SATs is seeing them in American media, I never knew they were optional! It seemed like a forced thing that everyone has to do and a very stupid & crude way of assessing whether or not you'll be good enough to attend certain post-secondary institutions while you're still in the thick of things in high school. In Canada we don't really have any equivalent, getting into a university or college (which as far as I understand in American parlance is sort of like college and community college?) is based on a certain number of your highest grades at the time of your application and dependent on you keeping things at a certain grade average by the end of senior year. Universities do require you to take "university" and "mixed" level courses rather than "college" level ones to be considered which means that people with plans of college or going directly into work avoid the U-tier classes from day 1 and it sorta creates a hierarchy where a lot more of the trouble makers are in the C-tier courses. Likewise, as someone who just finished their MA degree in the past couple of months, there isn't really a test you take to be able to enter grad school, it's similarly based on your undergraduate grades, résumé, and quality of writing. The American system seems hella weird to me as an outsider. -- Uh, anyway, school talk aside, I really enjoyed this episode of the podcast (and show) and have been thoroughly enjoying going through Mission Hill for the first time.
2020-06-10 02:07 As a Canadian whose main frame of reference for the SATs is seeing them in American media, I never knew they were optional! It seemed like a forced thing that everyone has to do and a very stupid & crude way of assessing whether or not you'll be good enough to attend certain post-secondary institutions while you're still in the thick of things in high school. In Canada we don't really have any equivalent, getting into a university or college (which as far as I understand in American parlance is sort of like college and community college?) is based on a certain number of your highest grades at the time of your application and dependent on you keeping things at a certain grade average by the end of senior year. Universities do require you to take "university" and "mixed" level courses rather than "college" level ones to be considered which means that people with plans of college or going directly into work avoid the U-tier classes from day 1 and it sorta creates a hierarchy where a lot more of the trouble makers are in the C-tier courses. Likewise, as someone who just finished their MA degree in the past couple of months, there isn't really a test you take to be able to enter grad school, it's similarly based on your undergraduate grades, résumé, and quality of writing. The American system seems hella weird to me as an outsider. -- Uh, anyway, school talk aside, I really enjoyed this episode of the podcast (and show) and have been thoroughly enjoying going through Mission Hill for the first time.

As a Canadian whose main frame of reference for the SATs is seeing them in American media, I never knew they were optional! It seemed like a forced thing that everyone has to do and a very stupid & crude way of assessing whether or not you'll be good enough to attend certain post-secondary institutions while you're still in the thick of things in high school. In Canada we don't really have any equivalent, getting into a university or college (which as far as I understand in American parlance is sort of like college and community college?) is based on a certain number of your highest grades at the time of your application and dependent on you keeping things at a certain grade average by the end of senior year. Universities do require you to take "university" and "mixed" level courses rather than "college" level ones to be considered which means that people with plans of college or going directly into work avoid the U-tier classes from day 1 and it sorta creates a hierarchy where a lot more of the trouble makers are in the C-tier courses. Likewise, as someone who just finished their MA degree in the past couple of months, there isn't really a test you take to be able to enter grad school, it's similarly based on your undergraduate grades, résumé, and quality of writing. The American system seems hella weird to me as an outsider. -- Uh, anyway, school talk aside, I really enjoyed this episode of the podcast (and show) and have been thoroughly enjoying going through Mission Hill for the first time.