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What A Cartoon! - Dragon Ball "Monster Beast Giran" With Shivam Bhatt (Patreon)

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2020-05-11 04:00:00
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Chosen by our premium patron L, we're covering the original Dragon Ball anime with our expert friend Shivam Bhatt (co-host of the Commanderin' podcast)! We discuss how Akira Toriyama developed his action-comedy phenom, how Toei Animation adapted it, and how Goku's earlier adventures had a weird localization history in the US. Then we break down one of the first battles in the initial Budokai tournament, as Goku takes on his first round challenger, a kaiju named Giran. So ready up your ki for a kamehameha wave of podcasting action!

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GuncannonD

Dragon Ball has an interesting dub history in Canada. DBZ diverged in the Cell saga, with Canada (along with the UK) getting its own English dub separate from the American one; since it used Ocean's Canadian studios, it counted as "Canadian content" to meet our broadcasting regulations. Oddly enough, it also reused background music from the 90's Mega Man cartoon (even the instrumental version of the opening)! Continuing this, GT and original Dragon Ball also got Canada-only dubs. They were more budget productions, though strangely while GT got an English version of the Japanese opening (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPDP3S4dYcY) , Dragon Ball had an awful, cheesy opening which was a redub of the opening from the French dub (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1kOz5w9iE). In conclusion, Canada is a land of contrasts. (Dragon Ball's dueling dubs saga is even more complicated, but the DB wiki has some detailed summaries of it.)

ShyRanger

So Nam's actual name is Namu eh? Did not know what. I used to think "Oh Nam as in Namaste" which would fit in with the whole "what do most people think of India" thing, but Shivam's explanation of Namu, yeah that makes sense.

crystalhearts

That was great - the 80s/90s anime WACs are absolutely my favorite.

I.C. Weiner

The opening to this show was the first thing on the TV my 10 month old son cared about. He freaking loves it, to the point where no matter what he is doing, as soon as I play it he looks at the playback device and starts dancing as hard as a baby can dance. Because of this I watched the series through Super. He didn't like any of the other songs nearly as much, but he seemed to enjoy the content of Super.

Devin Hoffarth

you mentioned there being bear men and a dog man and fun fact! According to the PS4 RPG Kakarot: Animal people in Dragonball are a direct result of a drug that was popular back in the day which apparently turned people into animal human hybrids much like a certain episode of Batman Beyond! However the drug fell out of style and nowadays nobody uses it and THAT'S THE JUSTIFICATION for why animal people exist in Dragonball but NOT so much in Dragonball Z.

Steven Babb

What a great episode! I really enjoyed the podcast, and a really nice guest. Much the same experience with waking up very early to watch this.

Joe Hodgson

My first encounter with the Dragon Ball franchise were the toys. When they tried to get the show up and running in the states, Irwin Toys imported a bunch of Bandai and AB toys with new packaging and I dismissed it, most likely with a dragon testicles joke. I was aware it was on television, but it was super early in the morning. I wanted my Marvel shows and they were on after 10 so that's all I cared about. I, like many westerners, didn't really give it a shot until it was on Cartoon Network and at that point I became hooked. I am so glad that FUNimation didn't start dubbing Dragon Ball right away. If you recall, when FUNimation finally returned to Z after it broke out and resumed dubbing with its own in-house talent the end result was awful. It took awhile for the actors to find their voice and figure things out so by the time they got to the original Dragon Ball the dub was a well-oiled machine. I watched Dragon Ball when Cartoon Network started airing it, though eventually I fell off because it was hard being an adult and finding the time for it. I didn't watch the whole series until roughly ten years ago when Amazon had an anime sale and I was able to get all five volumes of the DVD release for around 60 bucks. I love Dragon Ball now and I think it's a far more enjoyable series than Z. And unlike FUNimation's DVD sets for Z, the Dragon Ball ones aren't cropped and it looks great even if it's not HD. Yeah, the sound isn't the best, but it does find a way to be charming. I've recently pulled the show out for my kids (5 and 3) and they both really dig the theme song. My son is more into the action than my daughter, but both like the humor of the show. My wife - not so much. Listening to this one though has me hoping you'll visit both Z and Super at some point. It's tough to pick an episode of Z because it's so sprawling, but one of the more humorous episodes would probably work well. For Super, it almost has to be the very metta Arale episode which reveals Vegeta is terrified of any character from an 80's gag manga. Either that or the baseball episode.

Christmas Ape

I managed to catch the Canadian dub of this when it originally aired, but as you mentioned it only included the first thirteen episodes, and as a kid I honestly believed that's all there was. So, when I started seeing the random airings of Z a year or two later, I recognized the title and characters like Goku, Bulma, and Yamcha, but was confused by all these other side characters, like Krillin and Piccolo, hanging around like I was supposed to know who they were. The same channel I saw the show on in '95 would end up airing the complete dub in the mid-2000s, and it was interesting to finally see all the stuff I had been missing for a decade. They also released a GBA game in the mid-2000s that I ignored at the time, but based on the playthrough videos of it that I watched years later, it actually looks pretty good.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

Like many people my age, I never watched the original Dragon Ball as a kid (or in general, this is the first time I think I've ever seen it), but caught a lot of Z on 4Kids since it was on around other shows I was super interested in. Watching this makes me curious to dive further into things without the atrocious dubbing, but given the sheer volume of things between those 2 shows alone, I'm not sure when I might get to that exactly (even in this age of social distancing).

MENDOZABLE

I grew up on the Mexican/Latin American dub of Dragonball & DBZ , and let me tell you DragonBall is as BIG as Soccer and the Simpsons in Mexico that everyone and their Abuela knows who Goku is but I feel like I don’t have to tell you that since the DragonBall Super Final episodes were played in front of various Live Crowds which is Amazing to see. Also Henry Talking about proffering Cha-La over Rock the dragon and I can relate , I grew up listening to the Latin American versions of those songs which are Amazing and when I first heard “Rock the Dragon” I just thought it feel right.

Jon Peder Grønsveen Opsahl

The original Dragonball manga was recently translated into Norwegian. I work as a teachers aid for students with varying degrees of difficulties and getting them to read can be difficult. In one such case I introduced a student to Dragonball and he went from not wanting to read anything to devour over 30 volumes of Dragon Ball in a couple of weeks. Luckily the librarian at my school is pretty cool and ordered multiple copies for the school library. They have been so popular that the library now has a decent manga section. If anything I might be responsible for a generation of weebs at the school.