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For the first time, we welcome on our friend/video game historian Chris Kohler, as he helps us understand the joys of parenthood in this week's episode! Apu and Majula get baby fever but end up with a record-setting 8 kids that are really stressing them out. Could a human zoo be the answer? All that plus the terror of The Baron in this week's podcast!

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Harry Thornton

To add to what Chris mentions at the start: Defunctland recently made a great video on the history of Coney Island, and he even brings up the incubators in one of those parks.

littleterr0r

Having Chris on the show reminded me that I have to catch up on Complete In Box (RIP).

Bennett Billard

Interesting Factoid RE: Coke Zero: It was based on the Coca Cola Classic recipe. Diet Coke, debuting in the '80s, was based on the New Coke recipe.

RVG

I'm sure the writers intended Bart's Columbus Day joke as a cheap throwaway about a real mattress discount kind of holiday, but man, when you DO learn the real meaning of Columbus Day that joke gets real dark!

Joe Hodgson

I would like to know where this episode ranks in terms of licensing costs. That question always comes to mind when I watch this because of all of that licensed music. I think it's a safe assumption that modern episodes of The Simpsons aren't allowed to do this anymore. I do really love the snarky Apu in this episode. He's been a bit snarky before ("Billy and the Clonasaurus"), but he is in overdrive in this one. His lines are almost all gold and I can't think of an Apu appearance after this one that comes close. And obviously there aren't going to be any more episodes that could take the crown. I feel like this episode is the last time The Munsters could be relevant. I remember my dad making me watch the old show when I was a kid, but by the time this episode came around I think even Nick at Nite had moved on. I think there was a 90s Fox special on The Munsters, but I don't recall it being much of a conversation starter and the franchise just went away. It really was inferior to The Adams Family, but I'm still surprised we haven't seen a Hollywood reboot yet.

Alex Forsyth

In Canada, we drink Canada Dry Ginger Ale when we are sick.

Alex Irish

Banana bread is good, but have you ever tried banana chocolate chip bread? I’m part of the region that has the Fresh Market grocery chain, they carry it, and it makes a delicious, addictive treat

Tyler M.

Butch Patrick in this episode reminds me so much of Jerry Mathers in that episode of Married with Children where they live in the grocery store.

eddiegiantman

There was a Australia News interview that talked to the Octomom last year and it seems she and the family are doing fine. She says she has no regrets but does think she was did what she did because she was young and dumb.

Alan M.

I have actually had a couple encounters with Butch Patrick in my life. For whatever reason, Butch Patrick is always the special guest at the Turkey Rod Run in Daytona Beach, Florida. The Turkey Rod Run is a giant hot rod show that takes up the entire inside of Daytona International Speedway every Thanksgiving. Butch Patrick is there every year to sign autographs (for free) and the original Munstermobile is there too. The strange thing is that they put mannequins of the original cast inside the Munstermobile, which are a little creepy. Butch seems nice and spends most of his day siting in a folding chair half awake as old people tell him they loved the Munsters.

Tyler The Destroyer

Only because I never see him And and how it comes out in the list I always thought “Sanjis bed” was a sex position joke! Lmao

To Boldly Joe... Moore

Enjoying the episode, guys. Looking forward to you hopefully doing an episode of What A Cartoon on The Addams Family some day. ^_^

Micah

I could go for some California Lasagna after this episode

SilkiePJ

Something that disturbed me looking back on this episode is how messed up it is to slip someone else fertility drugs. Why would Homer, Marge, and Bart want them to have more babies? That just comes off as cruel and selfish especially when Homer/Marge already seem to have enough trouble managing three kids including Maggie. I have to echo what you all said that this is the episode that essentially reduced Apu to being stressed and unhappy all the time even though the episode has lots of funny bits. And credit to Chris Kohler as an elderly stateman of a guest talking about his own experience parenting

Aaron Johnson

This might sound weird, but the sleep situation that Apu and Manjula have for their babies is actually pretty good, all things considered (although they definitely shouldn't have used pillows or bedding). I'm a pediatric social worker who formerly worked at a community clinic in Nashville, TN, and one of our big public health pushes was to provide education and resources for safe sleep with young infants. We served a large community of refugees and undocumented immigrants who, due to a combination of cultural norms and resource limitations, chose to co-sleep with their babies. There's a lot of debate about co-sleeping, but it is an undeniable hazard, especially when parents are over-tired or altered in any way. If we were unable to provide parents with a Pack and Play style crib, the pediatricians would recommend that the children sleep in an empty laundry basket, an empty drawer (kept open, of course), or even a sturdy box (every time they suggested the drawer, I would always think of Kearney's son's proud exclamation). Before I moved away from Nashville, my last big push at my job was to get the hospital system and the Department of Children's Services to provide safe sleep boxes to families upon discharge from Labor and Delivery. Finland provides a safe sleep box to every parent in the country free of charge, and their levels of infant mortality went from one of the highest in the western world in the 1950's to one of the lowest today. Unfortunately my hospital didn't listen to my suggestion, and were beaten to the punch by a health system in Washington. Anyway, props to Apu and Manjula for keeping their babies safe while sleeping. And remember: there's no shame in sleeping in a drawer.

PurpleComet

I'm glad you guys provided some context for the show at the zoo because I was really uncomfortable with the idea of a bunch of brown children on display like that. Thankfully, the show treats it as disturbing as it is. Even so, I found this episode inadvertently plays into some of the ugly "anchor baby" rhetoric heard from anti-immigrant bigots. And yes, I remember that Apu became a citizen, but the anti-immgrant crowd don't think of them as "real Americans". The Trump administration has gone as far as challenging the citizenship of naturalized Americans. Also, the image of Apu with the baby bottles taped to his chest always made me think of the infamous "Bill Clinton nipple" sketch from the Dana Carvey show, which I had never seen until recently.

Micah

I remembered Butch Patrick's name , but I think its from pop culture ephemera referencing it like this.

Bree Rody-Mantha

This episode was very exciting for me because I’ve literally never heard the Dionne Quints discussed outside of my hometown, and I actually grew up unsure if their story was widely known outside of Canada or even outside of my region. I grew up in North Bay, the larger town about 10 minutes down the road from Corbeil where the Quints were born and raised. The Quints’ home was, at some point before I was born, relocated to a spot on the main highway that ran through my town and served as a museum of sorts until I left for college. To my knowledge, the museum is no longer operational but the house is still intact. Interestingly in school we were well educated about the exploitation of the Quints, but it was almost always framed as solely the work of their parents — I didn’t find out until I was an adult that it was the Ontario government, not their parents, that had made them into sideshows. We also hardly learned anything about their advocacy work as adults. My one more explicit connection to the Quints is that their paediatrician was also my Grandma’s paediatrician, and he most notably treated my Grandma for the loss of her fingertips due to gangrene. However, my Grandma was born in 1924 so was significantly older than the Dionnes. Anyway, really grateful that Chris mentioned it — it’s a huge stain on the Ontario government and the story hasn’t always been communicated as well as it should be.

Mikey Cox

Your IKEA comments were apt, I hope you’re just as fair to Costco when they spoof on bulk stores. I didn’t realize Americans didn’t get IKEAs until the mid to late eighties. Just read that Canada we started getting them in the mid to late seventies. I used to love going there as a kid because they had the original ball room (back when you didn’t think about the spread of baby feces) and you could play to your heart’s content until your folks were done with shopping. They got rid of them in the early nineties, probably when they realized, wow these things are gross. Still, a lot of my nostalgia for ikea comes from those ball pits, not meatballs.

Blargh

So I just re-listened to The Cartridge Family recently, and Marge makes a reference to how the soccer stadium use to be an internment camp. That's a dark reference to the political prisoners who were killed or tortured by the Chilean army during the coup by Augusto Pinochet in 1973. just wanted to let you guys know

Gavi Raab

Frasier's son Frederick was in 9 episodes of Frasier, my favorite being his Bar Mitzvah episode where Frasier gives a speech in what he thinks is Hebrew, but is in fact Klingon.

Stephen C. Nedell

Didnt the MC on the ostrich at the end of Octopia look a lot like Troy McClure?

nalem

In regards to making characters dads, I loved when Jake the dog had kids in Adventure Time. His kids aged to adults instantly then moved away. PERFECT.