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This week we're heading into Cartoon Network history as chosen by premium patron Isaac, with the Ed boys! This series had a lot of firsts for CN, and the show's creator was a big name in '90s indie animation, which we delve deep into. Not only that, but we discuss a pair of fun and edgy season three episodes, so grab your jawbreakers and listen along to this week's podcast!

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Kewl0210

Hey, I like Catdog. It's got... some good stuff. #CatdogForWAC

ToonJay723

I have fond memories of watching the first four seasons of Ed, Edd n Eddy and the Christmas special. But in 2005 I was banned from watching the show because my mom was in the room for a repeat of the episode "Key to My Ed" where the Kanker sisters lock the Eds in stocks for press their bare feet against theirs. And on the topic of CatDog, I did love that show as a kid. I haven't seen much of the show since it went off the air, so I don't know if it holds up. But the few episodes I've seen somewhat recently are just okay. Not bad, but nothing special.

Devin Hoffarth

The cat came back... That short scared me as a child.

Andrew Giachetti

This is probably my favorite Cartoon Network show of my childhood, being that I’m a little younger than you guys. As a kid a I didn’t know any of that stuff about antinucci being the way he ways and it blew my mind in college when I saw a post from antinucci on reddit, but not in any cartoons or tv or animation subreddits. No, this dude posted on r/trees, the weed reddit, to share his custom pipe which just a Ceramic plank. Not gonna lie that was one of the dopest pipes I’ve seen and I wouldn’t mind owning it myself. Also from what I recall the Ed edd and eddy games are fairly decent adventure games by liscenced game standards, but my ps2 and copy of that game are tucked away somewhere at my parents house. Maybe I’ll check the inter webs for some nostalgia and see for myself if the game is good or I am just an Ed edd and eddy apologist.

Jacob Reed

It is interesting how removed the Ed boys are from most Cartoon Network outings, I had to double check if they were in the Punch Time Explosion fighting game and of course, they aren’t. However, I will note that they did appear with other CN characters in both the racing game on GameBoy and in Cartoon Network’s MMO FusionFall as NPC’s that gave quests. I personally never played the MMO, I just remember the ads for it on the channel. What intrigues me more, however, is I did discover a comic miniseries published by IDW called Super Secret Crisis War which is a team-up of several good guy Cartoon Network characters teaming up against their enemies. Specifically, this consisted of Samurai Jack, Dexter, Ben 10, the Powerpuff Girls... and the Ed boys for some reason. The description on the back of each issue always mentions the Ed boys as an after though too, as if they realize there isn’t any real reason for them to be involved in this fight for the safety of the universe. Ed, Edd, n’ Eddy was popular on CN for sure, I’m just not sure why of all the network’s characters they picked the Ed boys to be involved, especially 5 years after the movie had aired

Thad Komorowski

I watched a lot as a kid, remember exactly when it premiered, but no, not a fan of EENE. For me, despite the expressive character designs and animation and the lineage from Ren & Stimpy (Antonucci was a classmate of John K.'s, and the show's producer Chris Danzo also produced R&S and lots of Bakshi movies; she admitted to me she liked working with "the bad boys of animation"), it just felt like yet another slice-of-life white kids show that dominated so much TV in the '90s. One artist told me that the adherence to keeping the cul de sac "on-model" made it as rigid as any Nelvana show. The direction credit really should've been more generous. All of the Cow & Chicken and I Am Weasel cartoons list Dave Feiss as the director, but Dave was also quite generous in giving his animation timers actual co-director credit (he's of the old school where he considers timing real direction and he's not wrong). FYI, there is at least one episode that takes digs at Canadians ("Canadians are weird"), so this is emphatically a U.S. city. A shame, as I wish more Canadian cartoonists would CELEBRATE their roots and heritage.

Evil Chanteuse's Dork Lair

Catdog has become increasingly relevant to my life for one weird reason. I was talking with my friend about shows from the 00s we were nostalgic for. I praised Catdog because I remembered being really invested in the finale when it finally aired in the UK when I was 4. My friend was interested in catdog and had never seen it, so she decided to watch it. Ever since then she has developed an unhealthy hatred for the show. Not a day goes by where she doesn’t tell me how much she hates Catdog. It’s a little annoying but, I’m used to it. But I’d like to spend at least one day without hearing how unlikable cat is and how miserable the show is.

Tashmon Dimps

I definitely have a soft spot for this show, and I think there’s certainly a space for grand cartoon violence in TV animation, but boy did I forget how mean the show was looking back. I’m not sure if I want it (or something similar) to come back at this point in our current climate. I laughed a bunch revisiting this episode, but I think the kindness and warmth of current cartoons is to their benefit.

littleterr0r

There's a slow motion scene in an episode of Pen15 which perfectly illustrates the disgustingness of jawbreakers.

Shaxbert

I need to give this show a fair shake. EE&E bounced right off me for the most petty of reasons- whistling is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

Camille Walters

Loved this show! And I remember enjoying Cat Dog but I think that's because the theme tune was so catchy? 😂 Looking back now I think this show has influenced me to love shows about asshole con artists! I'm looking at you It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 👀

Thad Komorowski

I witnessed Bob Camp getting asked at a convention, "Did you work on CatDog?" "Nah, that was someone rippin' us off."

littleterr0r

The bully sounds just like Nelson.

KaiserBeamz

I remember being a freshman in college and watching the Toonzone forums like a hawk for any updates on when Cartoon Network was gonna air the EEnE finale movie. It was know that it was gonna happened for almost year before it premiered, but because this was 2009 and Cartoon Network wasn't exactly treating their animated properties well around this time (*cough*CN Real*cough*), everyone assumed that it was gonna get dumped on Boomerang or something. Thankfully, it premiered on a Sunday afternoon with a decent amount of advertising and I distinctly remember doing trig homework during the commercial breaks.

Kevin

I heard you guys musing on why this show was so long-running and appealing to younger kids, and I think a lot of it comes down to how quotable it is. Ed and Rolf in particular were just catchphrase machines. Lots of kids found them very fun to imitate and would quote their nonsensical one-liners to each other on the playground growing up. The show also did a lot of memorably surreal and off-kilter gags that tickle the funny bone, too, and I always found it very re-watchable. I was 5 when it debuted and it was a staple for my entire childhood.

Matt Yenter

Being a huge EENE fan my whole life and also being a huge Three Stooges fan (watching three shorts every Saturday morning on AMC with my Pop) never did I ever make the slapstick connection till this Pod. Really helps pinpoint the type of comedy and humor that truly influenced me during my adolescence! Thanks!

rubber cat

I liked CatDog initially... it seemed like a return to traditional cartoon slapstick, I dug the weirdness of the concept, and the character design was simple enough that I could draw a decent-looking CatDog (I still draw paws the same way). After a while I felt disappointed and stopped watching, which I'd never done for a Nickelodeon show before, a very "end of childhood" moment for me. I always hated the rabbit guy though.

Tyler The Destroyer

I am so happy that you guys finally covered does it show if I ever had a chance to spend money to make you cover an episode of something it would’ve been the show however I probably would’ve chosen the sprinkler party episode because it’s one of the oldest ones I remember watching during summer laying in my room floor trying to stay out of the heat because we did not have air-conditioning and wondering what it would be like to go to the cool kids party

Tyler The Destroyer

I am so happy that you guys finally covered this show if I ever had a chance to spend money to make you cover an episode of something it would’ve been the show however I probably would’ve chosen the sprinkler party episode because it’s one of the oldest ones I remember watching during summer laying in my room floor trying to stay out of the heat because we did not have air conditioning and wondering what it would be like to go to the cool kids party

Travis T.

I never watched the show, but it still has a strong connection to my youth. When I was 13 and playing minor hockey in Vancouver, our coach claimed to be an animator on the show. Kind of a quirky gig for a pretty intense guy who showed up to every game in a suit and tie. After starting the season really strong, we somehow manage to lose 20+ games in a row, and he kinda went off the rails. He fought players on the ice, he fought players in the dressing room, he threw our stuff in the shower, players pissed in his shoe as retaliation, and he started showing up to games looking super disheveled. Eventually he had to show up to the rink incognito after getting suspended for going off on a ref. Bizarrely, I still view this as a positive, formative experience that I look back on fondly. It was a cautionary tale about the dangers of becoming an animator. Despite it all, I think he was a sweet dude going through some stuff.

RVG

I was never an Ed, Edd, n Eddy fan or really into Antonucci's oeuvre in general, but I strongly agree with his position that something essential was lost in the transition from paper to digital. There is a lot of fantastic digital animation and lord knows, it's a hundred million times better for the animators themselves, but there's just something magical about the little flourishes and wisps that went into fully hand-drawn animation. I have the same problem with modern comic books. Modern comic artists are usually more talented than their forebears, but modern digital coloring processes and techniques produce a very "samey" result. The bold lines and heavy blacking that define Western comic style lends itself to flat coloring that lets the linework and negative space speak. Instead we get volumetric gradients and obnoxious highlighting that is a distraction at best, and hides beautiful sketches at worst. I know it's not the exact same set of causes with digital animation, but it's the same issues: too much of the character of the artwork gets lost and/or popular (productive) techniques result in overly similar styles. I hope that doesn't come off as down on modern animation, because there are tons of awesome looking digital shows out there. I just hope that someday the technology catches up with the artistic talent.