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Talking Simpsons - Bart To The Future With Mike Drucker (Patreon)

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2020-11-04 05:00:01
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This week we welcome back Mike Drucker for an ominous episode that predicted the future of 2016 in 2000! But beyond the heinous predictions, this episode also gifted us with future Bart as one of the most realistic dirtbags to ever be seen on TV, as well as some pretty dated jokes about tribal gaming. So listen now for some tasty podcast tuneskis, unless you only used to be cool!

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ChemyChems

This episode dropping on election night is either a stroke of genius or amazing luck.

SomeBloke

Since there's kind of a runner in this podcast episode about fan theories, I think the fix for the episode's inconsistency with other futures is that somehow, using the power of... I dunno, the Happy Squirrel, the fortune teller showed a glimpse of the real future, whereas the casino owner was trying to teach Bart a lesson and only showed a possible future that didn't come to pass... and also required a B plot about Lincoln's gold.

Richard Mccarthy

I remember while watching this, my sister came into the room and was perplexed about Lisa being president. She hadn't watched the show since season one, and thought this meant it had been keeping tight continuity and aging the characters in real time. I was sad to tell her it was just a flash forward episode.

Thad Komorowski

I think its "Worst Ever" status was justified at the time. It's just so disjointed and indifferent and high concept. It just stinks.

Lockerus

Between this and Missionary Impossible the writers room was certainly on some kind of runner back in the early aughts.

Frank Grimes

I thought the Maggie joke was more about never hearing an adult Maggie talk, since they did the same in Lisa's wedding than it was seeing her as an adult

Brian Hortin

Hold the phone Mabel seems to be an old timey saying of some kind. I don’t think it’s in direct reference to Bell’s wife Mabel since she was deaf. It’s more likely a pop culture reference lost to time. The Jack Benny Program (radio/tv) is my best guess where there was a switchboard operator character named Mabel Flapsaddle. It looks like the actress that played her was on the show(s) for 15 years; there’s bound to be a catchphrase associated with a character after that long.

Joe Hodgson

This episode feels like another Scully-era cynical twist on a classic Simpsons trope. It's setup, with that awful framing device in the casino, to be an episode where Bart learns a lesson and comes to find a deeper understanding of the role his sister plays in his life which is something the show would have been happy to explore under a different showrunner. And it plays like that right up until the end when we find out Bart really learned nothing and we all just wasted 24 minutes of our lives with a throw-away flash-forward. I don't want to sound overly hostile towards it, it's not even in contention for worst episode of the season, but if not for the novelty of Trump being cited as president this one would be totally forgettable.

Paul

When I was 17 and this aired I was not very politically aware, so I had no inkling "First straight female president" might be a reference to Hillary. I didn't know who Chaz Bono even was at the time. No, from my knowledge of pop culture I assumed they must have been declaring that Ellen Degeneres had been elected president at some point. That made sense to me back then, everybody loves Ellen!

Gayest Episode Ever

Henry’s theory about Future Bart and Future Ralph being lovers is blowing my mind. I’m jealous he thought of it first.

Harry Thornton

Funny that Henry mentions his headcanon that Bart and Ralph must've been a couple at some point: To me, a gay Bart Simpson makes way more sense than a straight one. They've tried pairing him off with a new girl character in later future episodes and it feels so awkward and forced. RE: China, pre-9/11 things WERE starting to get a little more tense with the country. The US could've been in the current Cold War-esque political situation with them a lot sooner were it not for 9/11.

Camille Walters

I really liked this episode, still do! The extra element of Bart being gay adds something fun to my eventual rewatch!

I.C. Weiner

I always interpreted Ned thanking Bart for not outing Rod and Todd as a joke. Rod and Todd are designed to be quite flamboyant gay men and so Bart doesn't need to out them, everyone already knows, but Ned is blind so he doesn't know that.

Sabrina

I’ve always found it odd that in the “new future” episodes where Lisa and Milhouse are married there is never any inkling that Bart and Milhouse were friends. I don’t think they are ever even in the same room together. I do like the gay Bart theory, and I enjoyed Mike as a guest. He really seemed to be enjoying himself!

Mimi Kenny

Alan Greenspan is still alive as of today (November 5)

Alex Forsyth

The First "Hilary Clinton as President" reference on TV I remember was the Sliders episode where they slide into a parallel reality where women had all the power not men. At the beginning of the episode they do a fake out where they ask someone if Clinton is president and they are told yes and they are happy for like 5 seconds thinking they made it home and then president Hillary gives a speech on TV. And that was in 1995.

Andrew Bouvier

I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the episode of Ren and Stimpy where they are also trying to get Lincoln's gold. In that episode, they're looking in the Lincoln Memorial, and eventually find it in the statue's head, but it ends up just being caramel corn.

SilkiePJ

Looking back, this episode is kind of lame in it's set up. Whereas most future episodes are really comedic or emotional or high-concept; this episode in particular feels like the pilot for a bad sitcom. The way the jokes are told, the plot is structured, how it follows such sitcom logic from listening to the rule of cool, everyone's kind of one-dimension attitude, and a pointless subplot of Homer looking for Lincoln's Gold? This could have easily been an episode of That's My Bush!

Ned Mulka

Homer calling Lincoln a "theatergoing freak" was my biggest laugh of the episode.

Tyler The Destroyer

This is a serious question and a hopefully I get a yes by both Bob and Henry I have listen to both of you guys talked for so long about your families in your personal lives that I feel like I kind of know your family is pretty well better than anybody else I’ve never met I would find it as a patron very rewarding to hear special episode interviews with both Bob and Henry‘s siblings or parents Henry‘s mother sounds like one of the sweetest women on the planet and I would love to hear her embarrass him and Bob’s sister could probably give wonderful stories! This idea came to me with Henry mentioning about getting his brother on for an interview! Hope you guys take this into consideration if you haven’t already Stay safe! -Tyler

Jay Gironimi

Though I share some of Lisa's trepidation, the casinos near me have incredible insurance and I have maybe 2 organs that function properly, so I've worked at a Native casino for 12 years now. While I can't speak for the entire industry, in my state the tribes pay 25% of their slot revenue in taxes, which usually means millions in tax revenue each month and makes for a fun reply to any racist comments about said tribes.

twistedmentat

I've always considered the current Simpsons future as the "Jenda Timeline" as she seems to be a major character that the stories revolve around. As for the episode, i actually rate this one pretty high. Its certainly in my top twenty. Why? Well, when I was a kid in the early 80s, all the neighborhood kids went over to this one house, because the kid who lived there had the coolest dad. Or so we thought so at the time. He wore hawaiian shirts and flip flops, all the time. In his basement he had an atari and all the games you could imagine. He had PINBALL, a playboy one too. He would play us Zeppelin, Queen and Kiss records while we hung out there. There was also a coke machine that was free! The dad's kid was never really smug about it, he welcomed the party that basically existed there every saturday and many days after school. He would tell us that his dad was on the radio, I assume a drive time classic rock station dj based on the sterotype he fit in. Thing was, that dad, he was Bart in this. If he lost at pinball, he's go "this stupid machine is broken/Cheating!' if he lost at atari, he'd go "good game atari" in a real sarcastic tone. When his wife would tell him to stop swearing around the kids, he'd tell her "You need to be cool babe" and such. he would talk about how he was in a band, but they wouldn't go anywhere because the record companies thought their music was too good, and it would drive down sales of everyone else. Seeing this episode for the first time in 2000 reminded me of days 17 or so years ago. That makes it 37 years ago now, oh god. I always figured the timeline was Trump, Bono then Lisa, with the budget crunch from trumps term that Bono failed to address and left Lisa with it. That may of been why Bono lost. As was said in the pod, it really feels like a late 90s thing to worry about. The GOP did hammer away at Clinton for the defect and the debt during his second term a lot, but didn't seem to care that most of it came from Regan, and then they forgot about it as soon as GWB was elected. Funny that, but then Republicans think its bad when the goverment does things like build bridges and funds education, but its good when it spends billions to blow up people in other countries that are mad the US bombed them before.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

This episode turned out a lot better than I was expecting it to, having very little actual memory of it outside of Bart having a band and it containing the Trump as president "prediction." It's definitely entertaining, and while some of the future's inconsistencies with prior flash-forwards are frustrating, the continuity has always been spotty so it doesn't bug me too much anymore, especially when it's just a pretty solid episode. That being said, the casual racism towards Indigenous people in this episode is a real uncomfortable bummer. The fact that this aired in 2000 (even if it was written in 99) and not the 90s or earlier really makes it that much worse to me. I wouldn't excuse it then, but it's more understandable to still hear them referred to as "Indians" outside of this millennium, or dated, bad stuff like the "wacky Native names" jokes.