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This week we're doing Halloween right by finally covering perhaps the most famous cartoon dog of all time, Scooby-Doo! We're joined by professional artist and Scooby fan Kris Dobbins (check out their work here) to discuss the creation of the series and the life of Scooby creator, Iwao Takamoto! Then we dig into one of the best eps of the original series, featuring the gang being chased by The Creeper! So grab a giant sandwich and enjoy this week's podcast!

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Devin Hoffarth

So here's a fun thing I didn't realize until well after high school: the entire western mystery genre is completely or partially reliant on the notion of something being supernatural and then revealing it to be mundane. This goes ALL THE WAY back to Sherlock Holmes. A good amount of Sherlock stories relied on hinting at something supernatural and then revealing the more scientific truth afterward. I'm thinking of The Hound of the Baskervilles and Adventure of the Speckled Band specifically. This was enthralling to a society where science as we know it was just starting to come into being and people could still realistically believe in things like demons or ghosts. So in a way Scooby Doo is just carrying on a tradition as old as the 1800's.

Kat Heagberg

Like Henry’s mom, my dad didn’t like Scooby Doo (he thought it was low-quality animation, which to be fair it was), so I wasn’t allowed to watch it. Aside from the live action movie, I’ve still never seen any version of Scooby Doo. My dad DID however show me “Rover Dangerfield,” pretty much every time he had to watch me during the day if my mom was at work and he wasn’t.

Tashmon Dimps

I’ve been watching a ton of “Where Are You” in this quarantine Halloween, and while it’s certainly aged in many regards, there’s something so inherently charming about the mystery solving antics of Scooby and the gang. Honestly, I’m most impressed with the atmosphere of these old shows. The dark blue, painterly backgrounds matched with the vibrant colored cast is just inherently pleasing to me, cheap animation and all. Idk, maybe I’m just a weirdo, but I love the grungey look of this old show!

Joe Kafchinski

Prior to The Simpsons, Scooby-doo was my defining animated TV show. My mom will still stick a Scooby pencil or Pez dispenser in my Christmas stocking. I once wrote an alternative Scooby theme song to the tune of Little Richard's Tutti Frutti. I still have my "official" Scooby Fan Club card from WPIX New York. It's been decades since I've seen the old episodes, so I was apprehensive to revisit it and potentially destroy my childhood memories, but I was pleasantly surprised with how well it held up. Except for that laugh track - yikes.

DL MacDonald

Just wanted to jump in and ask if Alvin and The Chipmunks counted as the first Gorillaz?

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

First of all, Kris was an awesome guest and I'd love to hear them on one of the podcasts again! -- Watching this episode, I could immediately see why you chose it for the podcast - as discussed, it really DOES incapsulate so much of the tropes we all think of when we think about Scooby-Doo (for better or worse). I'm definitely closer to Kris' age than Bob and Henry's, and I've had a fairly typical relationship to Scoob over the years. I was a big fan as a kid, loving the direct to video stuff of the late 90s/early 2000s, saw both live-action films in theatres (I believe Scooby-Doo was the second film I ever watched in theatres, the first being Spider-Man), played some of the PS2 era videogames, and watched a lot of What's New Scooby-Doo. But by the time that cartoon was done, I pretty much checked out of Scooby-Doo stuff for the better part of a decade. At this point, I can recognize the reasons why Scooby was so popular in its heyday, but I'm really only a fan of the latter day stuff (of the last ~20 years) than I am of the original things. It definitely has its place in our pop culture lexicon, but I don't think I'd ever willingly go back and watch everything I can find. -- P.S., with HBO Max unavailable in Canada, watching Scooby-Doo stuff here can be pretty sketchy. The old stuff is on DVD and available in some... not totally legitimate spots otherwise, but newer things are frustrating to find. I wanted to watch the Scooby Doo and Guess Who episode with Conroy Batman, but I could not find it ANYWHERE, even to buy. The only place I could see it, with Boomerang also not available in Canada, was on Amazon Prime if I paid $12.99 a month to add a bunch of cartoon channels to my subscription. It's 2020 and I'm tired of companies handling their IP so damn poorly, especially when I would PAY MONEY FOR IT DIRECRTLY.

Andrew Bouvier

Thanks for making me go down a rabbit hole of discovering the different Scooby-Doo series and correlating them to their intros. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChNmaeY_Sos Goes without saying that Scooby-Doo, Where are You! is the best, and I always hated The Scooby-Doo Movies series that had Three Stooges, Batman and Robin, Harlem Globetrotters, etc...I echo Bob and Henry's lament at going to watch Scooby-Doo, but seeing the intro with the eyes opening up and bracing yourself for disappointment because it's lesser-tier. But The Scooby-Doo Show had a lot of episodes/villains I remember, like Phantom Racer, the flying white buffalo ghost, the ice cream ghouls, and the '76 ghosts with Benedict Arnold. But it did intro us to Scooby-Dumb and Scooby-Dee (who is Scooby's cousin, but he still wants to fuck her?), which were precursors to Scrappy-Doo. Then there were three series in a row (Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo, The new Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo Adventures, and The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo) that featured everyone's most hated version of the "Cousin Oliver" trope. Hell, 13 Ghosts DOUBLED DOWN on that trope by also having Flim-Flam, basically just Scrappy-Doo in a tracksuit. The last Scooby series I've seen is A Pup Named Scooby-Doo. I haven't seen any of the "newer" series (which have been around now for over 20 years) so it'll be fun to check out the start of that era of Scooby with you guys when you do Zombie Island for the WAC Movie.

Thad Komorowski

I don't know if I can bring myself to listen to a Scooby-Doo discussion (no bearing on y'all, you're always great, the show just makes my flesh crawl), but just throwing this out there: I have to agree with my late friend Earl Kress (WB cartoon writer, *the* H-B historian) who said to me that Iwao Takamoto kind of ruined Hanna-Barbera. I know there is no objective way for anyone to look at that studio (everyone's "golden age" is whatever they saw when they were 5-12), but the cartoons were always handsomely varied and well-designed for the first few years, then pretty much went into stiff formula once IT became the principal designer. I think I saw pleas for a Takamoto art book online - if you had a drinking game for how many times you spotted the "one hand with palm outstretched, other on hip" pose, every player would get cirrhosis.

ToonJay723

My mom loved 60s and early 70s Hanna-Barbera cartoons. Scooby-Doo, Josie and the Pussycats, and Wacky Races were her favorite. I think the only pre 1988 Scooby thing I saw on Boomerang was Where Are You. I don't recall Boomerang airing anything between that and A Pup Named Scooby Doo. They aesthetically look the same as the original show, so I have never been interested in checking them out outside of the Batman and Robin crossovers. Starting with Pup Named Scooby-Doo they make sure that each show has a new design, for better or worse. And I agree with Kirs, in spite of its art style, Be Cool and good writing and great animation.

Lynn Wiberg

I’m your Great Dane owning listener. He was unaffected by your instructions to “tighten up those flaps.” They’re as loose as ever.

Joe Hodgson

My dad has always been known to be someone who always has a song in his head and he is not shy about singing aloud. He almost never gets the words right though and just makes up his own which has always made it pretty easy to tease him over. My mom and her brother even secretly had a game going for years where one would just start humming a song they knew my dad liked just to see if he would then start singing it. Anyway, he was always big on oldies and that's what we listened to in the car and that "Skooby" song was one of his "classics" he'd get stuck in his head. I actually had never given it much thought and just assumed that song came after the show and was about Scooby Doo. It wouldn't be out of place on an oldies station which already featured songs that referenced Snoopy and Green Lantern, so I learned something today. But yeah, as for Scooby, I never really liked his shows even though I've seen tons of them. That's just what kids in the 80s and 90s did; we watched whatever was on because we only had so many options when it came to TV. My parents also bought me the Scooby Doo/Batman team-up VHS which was just awful. Thank goodness BTAS came along.

Jack Christmas

I totally agree with Henry's suggestion that all the main Scooby Doo characters should be queer. But how should it break down? I propose: Velma = Lesbian Shaggy = Aroace (good level of irony if you're used to British slang) Fred = Bisexual Daphne = Trans