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Talking Simpsons - Bart Vs Thanksgiving With Tim Kalpakis (Patreon)

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2021-05-05 04:00:00
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We return to Thanksgiving in 1990 to discuss this Simpsons classic with comedy performer/writer/musician/podcaster Tim Kalpakis from the band/podcast The Sloppy Boys! The whole family gets together for a traditional Thanksgiving, but Bart messes it up and evades an apology for the rest of the day as we learn some lessons about food and family. Plus, Tim gives us behind-the-scenes info on working on the show over a decade ago in this podcast that'll make you say "Hooray for everything!"

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Alistair Shand aka Bongo

22nd November 1990 my first day as a non teenager (I know old git !) remember it well went down the pub at lunch break from work - boss rang up pub ( no mobiles then ) to say that Maggie was gone (hurrah 😀) and we could stay there all day to celebrate and boy did we !

Tom Fraser

Terrible timing for the conversation about Swartzwelder at the beginning hahaha

Sam Bondurant

Heads up: if Homer had Dallas losing by 5.5 that means he wants the team playing them to win by 6 or more

Lockerus

Interesting that Homer vs Dignity was just covered which has its own outdated floats bit with Rusty, Funky Winkerbean and the Noid. For my money, the Sonic the Hedgehog debacle is one of the most memorable float incidents.

mavrick

Homers inflection on "the hell with this" has stuck with me forever and I still say it this way at least once a week edit - should have waited like 2 more seconds to post this.... henry just said the exact same thing

Joe Hodgson

I love this episode and it's one of my favorite holiday themed episodes of The Simpsons. A lot of it is due to just that slow pace at the beginning which just so expertly captures that build-up to a holiday gathering like Thanksgiving at home. Every time I watch it though I'm amused at the use of "bitchin'" by Bart as it felt like the show was almost trying to make that a new catchphrase for him. He first said it in Treehouse of Horror, then repeats it here, and will also turn to it in Bart the Daredevil. It's just a Season Two thing as I don't believe Bart has ever said it again, which may partly be to it just not being a real popular slang term beyond a narrow window. I don't think the writers were trying to sell t-shirts or anything, but maybe just playing with the character knowing Marketing probably wanted more catchphrases for Bart during this era and this was a way to poke fun at that while also doubling as a way to get a kid on TV to curse. And I'm sure you're going to get a million explanations like this, but point spreads just exist to help make sure a bookie or "The House" is always making money. It's too easy for people who follow sports to pick a winner and loser in most cases, so bookies handicap it with a point spread. Vegas has it down to a science where a game will open for betting with a certain spread, and if too much money is being wagered on one side, they'll adjust the spread to encourage more money be directed at one side to ensure that, once the game is done, they still make money.

Mr. Neil

The "Operator, get me the number for 911" gag always bothered me, since it was flagrantly a street joke. I remember even at the time of airing, schoolyard friends mentioned it was previously used in an issue of Mad magazine. Even after a quick google search it seemed to have been used in an episode of Home Improvement. The Simpson's strength as a show was always writing jokes no one else could think of, in the unique voice and trailblazing comedic language of the writer's room. I suppose even geniuses of comedy occasionally have to phone in a line to keep the rest of the script such high quality.

Kat Heagberg

Until hearing this episode of the podcast this morning I had no idea that “Up with People” was real. I only knew them from Bart V. Thanksgiving, and had long assumed they were meant as a parody of the “Young Americans” show choir. Which I think might also have a lot of uncomfortable right wing connections, though maybe not QUITE as nefarious? And I only knew about the Young Americans from my days reading “American Cheerleader” magazine as a teen. And on a related note, I grew up in Michigan, and it was a BIG deal one year, because our football team made the state finals, which were held at the Pontiac Silverdome on Thanksgiving Day, which meant I got to cheer at the Silverdome that Thanksgiving. Aside from coming to watch me cheer at the high school games, no one in my family new or cared anything about football and my only context for the Silverdome was this episode of the Simpsons, so when I found out that we were going there I was like “Cool! Like the Simpsons” and everyone else on my team was super confused.

crystalhearts

that was a great one - I'm really revising my opinion of the series, seasons 2 and 3 are ideal to me. there's something about the sitcom heart plus the klasky csupo animation that really hits the mark for me.

ty howell de winkle

A variant of the "get me the number for 911" was used in an episode of The Golden Palace (The Golden Girls spin off, minus Bea Arthur and plus Don Cheadle). Rose is held up at the front desk and plays dumb to get him to leave. Then at the end during her self-congratulatory speech asks for the number for 911. It can be found here: https://youtu.be/XPfC2yITm-Q

ty howell de winkle

To tie both Bob & Henry's blood donation stories together.... My freshman year of college me and some friends went to donate plasma. I had recently come out and casually mentioned my boyfriend to the phlebotomist. She was a butch lesbian that wore a rainbow bracelet, so I felt comfortable talking to her. I also was on a bit of a high from coming out and making gay friends and dating that I probably was a bit of an over sharer at the time. She asked me some polite questions, “what’s his name”, “what’s *his* major”, etc. But then quietly in a hall when no one was around said, “you have to be careful when you come in. They won’t let you donate if you’re sexually active with other men.” She then gave me a very non-soapboxy speech to make sure I’m safe and how many of her friends had tested positive over the years. In a subtle way, she clued me in there’s a time and place to be outspoken about your sexuality, but maybe this wasn’t the place (this part may seem in contrast to our politics today, but in 2004 Bush-era “save the family” rhetoric, I understood what she meant). This is my first instance of an “older” gay giving young dumb puppy me advice on how to navigate the world and be safe. I’m certain she’s long forgotten of my existence, but she’s one of those people we meet in a fleeting moment that means a lot to me.

ty howell de winkle

Some of these really early episodes are the ones I remember the most. Prior to the DVDs, I had the VHS box sets that only had 6 episodes (2 episodes per tape – 3 tapes), and a short on each tape. So many of these I watched over and over. The slowness of it, whether intentional or not, really feels just for a Thanksgiving episode. The whole _what’s THIS person doing?_ _what’s THAT person doing?_ _ope, ol so-&-so just arrived_. One thing I never understood though was why Marge was offended that Patty and Selma brought a dish. Yes, Marge was making the turkey, but wasn’t custom back then – like today, to bring a dish as well? I also remember during a sleepover; I showed some The Simpsons episodes to a friend who hadn’t really seen much of them at that point. As a kid, I thought it was very clear that Bart was wrong in this and vehemently sided with Lisa. My friend shocked me and sided with Bart. Now something I cringe at, from there on I thought of myself as a social scientist and would show this episode to friends as a bit of a Rorschach test; trying to pick their brains on their takeaway.

To Boldly Joe... Moore

Great episode, guys. Really enjoying these deep dives into the Season Two classics. :) Just wanted to add a quick thought about why the ending for this gets away with being so sentimental. I think it's because the fight between Bart and Lisa is SO real that you need a much sweeter-than-usual ending to counter-balance it. In my opinion, having raised the emotional stakes so high, any type of insincere ending wouldn't have worked. The writers and actors really nailed the tone for this. I actually considered skipping past the "You don't even care" part because hearing it is so uncomfortably relatable (almost like it's channeling a repressed childhood memory). It really is such an excellent scene. Thanks again for the great podcasts. ^_^

Dan Z

It surprises me Allen Ginsberg hasn't been cancelled altogether since he was a pedophilia activist

Rhomega

I wanted to point out that Marjorie Stoneman Douglas got a high school named after her...in Parkland, Florida.

Taskbaarchitect

On the subject of things kids just inherently believe, when I was young my Mum bought back a bunch of fresh fruit, including grapes, which I love. To stop me eating them all she made up the total lie that if you eat more than a dozen or so grapes in any one day you get severe stomach cramps. I continued to believe this until well into my teenage years. When i was relaying that story to a colleague, he confessed that his parents had informed him that the large plastic sheets that farmers wrap hay bales in were cow eggs, and he'd never had cause to question that... until college.

Padjoe

Great episode!

Thad Komorowski

My dad passed the week this was posted, and it's rather fitting it's this episode, because I specifically remember him HATING it. "I'd have smacked the shit out of Bart - HE WAS WRONG." I have to agree - an early misfire, for sure.