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Talking Simpsons - HOMЯ With Andrew Jupin (Patreon)

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2021-06-16 04:00:00
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We welcome back Andrew Jupin from the awesome We Hate Movies podcast to talk about this crayon-fueled episode! After attending an animation festival, Homer for some reason learns he is stupid because a crayon is shoved into his brain. This leads him to a rollercoaster of emotions disproving divinity and pissing off all of his friends. It all leads to a tragic ending in a scattershot episode, so listen now to see how we feel about this powder blue piece of Simpsons history!

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Bennett Billard

I hope this TS episode doesn't brain my damage.

Frank Grimes

Oh hell yeah...one of my favorites of the season and a WHM guest?!

Paul

This episode made me realize I no longer believed in god. I went to church my entire life and was in college a couple years by this point, and when they make the joke of Homer handing out proof that god doesn't exist because he now has slightly higher than average intellect, I was laughing really hard. I said to myself "Why am I laughing at this? Shouldn't I be offended?" But I wasn't offended. So I thought "Hmm, maybe I don't actually believe in God?" Which had not occurred to me in those words before. Just funny that a silly joke kind of had a chain reaction in my brain where I unlocked something I had been feeling for a while but had been unable to fully realize.

Frank Grimes

can't wait till you guys do trilogy of error. that and this ep were my faves. New kids on the Blecch was fun too...all things considered, S12 was still a solid season of the show...don't think I felt series fatigue until maybe 15 and up...or definitely by the movie's release.

Patrick McClafferty

There's now a 5th Stalked by My Doctor. My friend group does a weekly random Lifetime movie groupwatch and found that series is some of the best of the lot (in that they are so batshit insane)

Lockerus

Would a kid who was destined to have high intelligence as an adult stick crayons up their nose as a kid? I’ve never seen Lisa sticking things up her nose in the many flashbacks. Maybe this was a cautionary tale. Edit: one of those days I’ll listen to the whole cast before commenting, but today is not that day.

Cossover

Simpsons comics 27 dec 1996 They Fixed Homer's Brain! Frink his a pill which is intended to make people smarter use homer to test it. He plans to have surgery to make the effects of the pill permanent, as he feels that Lisa would be lonely otherwise. Lisa say no because the rest of the family are unhappy with his new personality.

ShyRanger

Since Henry won't say what dumb YT channel points out plot holes, I will, it's CinemaSins. And I feel no shame calling them out since they don't get a lot of flak where as actual channels with interesting critiques and discussions do.

crystalhearts

Another Season 12 episode that I vividly remembering watching at the time and thinking "why did I watch that?". Not exactly the reaction I think the showrunners probably wanted to be getting from a 13 year old, lol

Steve Bunnell

I'm looking forward to hearing the takes on "The Frying Game." (s13e21) I rewatched that one recently and I think it might genuinely be the worst episode The Simpsons ever did. It's every bad part of this episode dialed up to 11.

Andrew Bouvier

Only on this most recent viewing did I notice that Homer really shouldn't be as smart as he's portrayed. He only has 105 IQ, and while I know that's hardly a hard and fast measure of intelligence, that number basically puts him as average. He's acting more like the Mensa members from "They Saved Lisa's Brain" with the large and unnecessary vocabulary, smugness, and overall attitude.

Samwise

Regarding extended warranties, I can attest to then not *always* being a ripoff. My parents always got them for game consoles when I was younger and in both cases (PS2 and Xbox 360) they more than paid for themselves. It was pretty convenient too, we just brought the broken consoles back to the store, they tested them and just gave us back a brand new console. The Xbox was even replaced multiple times, eventually by a newer model that was seemingly immune to RROD issues.

Kris

I absolutely love the octoparrot "You do nothing but play God And I think your Octo parrot would agree"

Bryan Field

I just love this episode. I know you two had problems with the setup, but all that aside, the emotional ending made it worth it to me. I love the Lisa-Homer connection. As for Dr Joyce Brothers, I think the joke might have been that psychologists of her day did not like the idea of "pop" psychology. Dr Brothers made psychology mainstream for much of America, but the profession had mixed opinions on this change. So, Homer saying the her "credentials are highly suspect" is him taking the side of academic psychologists, like an over educated blowhard might in a conversation. Her degrees were from Cornell and Columbia, so I don't know what else he wants! Also, I think the sound clip of Patty saying, "Wait a minute, somebody's not laughing here" would make a wonderful addition to the show when one of you likes a joke more than the other. Great episode!

Thad Komorowski

A very important element of "Flowers for Algernon" isn't mentioned: Algernon, the mouse, *dies* almost immediately after his intelligence regresses. As a kid reading it, I took it to mean Charlie is probably going to die prematurely, too, making it an even more tragic story. If Al Jean seriously wanted to do a parody/homage as a "very special episode", it's not like the story didn't have emotional weight to borrow. Honestly, the more we see and hear from him and look at his work, it just reaffirms my suspicion that Jean is just a hack who got *really* lucky.

Dennis Kanenwisher

Not gonna say which film (it's widely beloved) but I've absolutely had that Homer in the theater experience. One moment in particular I saw the gag coming a mile away, and when it hit the entire audience ERUPTED in laughter and I just thought "you seriously didn't expect that? seriously?"

Tyler

I *just* got that the title is spelled HOMR because the movie is spelled Charly. Only took me 20 1/2 years.

PurpleComet

Despite all the problems, I really enjoyed the episode when it aired and on rewatch. There are so many memorable jokes, bulldozing the auditorium, Dr Hibbert's cameo, "that's right I'm a surgeon", etc. Having said that, I am baffled that they nominated THIS episode for an Emmy and it won. I worked at Sears after college for a year in the early 2000s and they pushed the extended warranties HARD. We earned a higher commission off of sales when customers bought an extended warranty (8% vs 1-5% depending on the item). These sales were heavily tracked and if you weren't hitting your goals it was a conversation. If I couldn't sell an extended warranty, my manager instructed me to call him over and he would try to sell them until the customer gave him a hard "No" or they looked like they were on the verge of leaving without buying anything.

Robot House

If Henry wants an explanation for why the Simpson Gene can still make sense I thought of one( also I am not a scientist of the brain). If the crayon damaged the part of the brain that affects intelligence the gene might not have activated since apparently it needs a certian intelligence threshold before puberty to activate. Since Homer was already dumb it didn't activate

Mark Lee Marcheschi

I'm still a fan of this episode in total. I find more of this era to be full of funny despite not show original jokes, but thats part of the problem going on so long and Jean returning. The, "You heard the monkey" line is one I've quoted frequently in the years.

Brian Hortin

I watched Davey and Goliath's Snowboard Christmas last year. It’s weird and “Extreme”? The fun fact about that special is that it was funded by the royalties from those Davey and Goliath Mountain Dew commercials from the early 2000’s.

RVG

May I ask how you guys pronounce the fabric synthesized from regenerated cellulose?

Stephen C. Nedell

I always loved the opening of this episode at the animation festival. I'm a school librarian and during read alouds I will often use voices for the characters and yes most of my voices are rippoffs er I mean homages. For Amelia Bedelia I do Edith Bunker, for Piggie and Elephant I use the Squeaky Voiced Teen and Patrick Starfish (which sounds a lot like Goliath now that I think about it), while for The Pigeon i use Moewth mixed with Charlie Adler's Brooklyn accent. The younger students love it and always ask for other voices like Spongebob, Squidward or Mickey Mouse. Many teachers have given me the stink eye as they leave because I taught the students how to do Spongebob laugh.

Tyler

Presbylutheran is the denomination the First Church of Springfield belongs to. It comes up again in the season 16 episode, "The Father, the Son and the Holy Guest Star," and in season 24's "Pulpit Friction." "HOMR" seems to be the first time it was mentioned.

Kat Heagberg

Because I doubt there will ever be a "What a Cartoon" deep-dive into "Davey and Goliath" (nor should there be), I wanted to say that if anyone does want to a D n' G deep dive, the podcast "Good Christian Fun" did an episode on them a few years back, which was pretty entertaining if I recall.

Brian

ECW aired on the Spanish channel on Fridays at 1:00am in my neck of the woods. They also ran shows at the now closed greyhound track in my hometown in the late 90s.

SomeBloke

I always loved that a mathematical proof there is no God took up a single page with relatively average size writing. I can’t even come up with arguments about functions that are that short, but then, who amongst us is a match for the raw power of Homer’s staggering 105 IQ? Also, as some random YouTuber commenter pointed out, it’s apparently easier to accidentally prove God doesn’t exist than to come up with a working flat tax proposal - I had not considered that angle, but it makes it even better.

Kyle Curtis

Well, I'm from Canada and I've never heard anyone use the word "craaaan."

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

Prior to this episode I had no idea who Dame Edna is, so I assumed it was another transphobic joke of the era when Moe expressed his distaste at learning he was a man. I didn't end up googling it before listening to this episode, but I'm glad you guys cleared it up. Moe never realizing Dame Edna is *famously* a drag queen, and proceeding to masturbate to him, is a MUCH better joke than whenever transphobia DOES appear on the show, so kudos to them (for once). -- Also, as per the CRAYON DISCUSSION: here in Canada I can confirm I don't think I've ever heard ANYONE say "cran" in person. The only times I do hear it are from Americans (generally by those specifically from the midwest too I've noticed).

Nick

I’ve come to report that the first two episodes of NBC’s “Sammy” show that were briefly mentioned surfaced online about a month ago! I watched the pilot & found it boring. There’s some decent comedy but David Spade’s delivery makes much of it fall flat. (he voices both the main character & his Dad). The visuals reminded me of a Klasky Csupo show even though they didn’t make this, and that’s because Duckman’s creator Everett Peck was the art director. The character design supervisor, Jerry Richardson also worked on Ahh Real Monsters & Rugrats All Grown Up too. Just wanted to let you all know about this recovered piece of list media, even if it’s nothing special for the time. https://youtu.be/H5DhY-InKno https://youtu.be/LZPf3ohMATQ