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Talking Simpsons - Pokey Mom With Griffin Newman (Patreon)

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2021-07-07 04:00:02
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The awesome first-time guest Griffin Newman from the podcast Blank Check joins us for a Simpsons featuring the great Michael Keaton! Marge befriends an artistic prisoner, and we talk about how people in prison are portrayed, the show's fun comments on their lack of reality, and chiropractors all in one jam-packed episode. Listen now before there are too many aprons!

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Rico Casanova

“For more than 30 yearsh, the world hash been faschinated by….DA SHIMPSHONS.” This is the best kind of crossover episode a newly minted Official Stonecutter could ever ask for 🥲

Matt

Incredibly rude of Bob to tear down the innocent Baha Men when they were ACTUALLY comparing men who catcall and "bark" at women at clubs to dogs. Who’s the sexist now?

Bennett Billard

I vividly remember being on a family trip in England and grabbing a local magazine to see the names of that season's episodes (minus a synopsis). The total Pokémaniac I was at the time instantly wanted to know more.

No It Doesn't

I used to hate hearing the Baha Men's "Who Let the Dogs Out" cause it was in every commercial/movie trailer back in 2000. As an 8 year old I guess I was embarrassed listening to it. About a month ago I started listening to that song again just so I could relive those nostalgic cringe feelings but after several hours of listening to it, I sorta like the song now! And now I'm just sitting here here thinking about the irony, thinking about the irony...

Frank Grimes

i always remember this ep because it reminded me of the KotH one where Peggy befriends her own prisoner, because he lied and told her he was a former student

Matt Q

To Griffin Newman's point about Lisa being the character most likely to go on to create a show like The Simpsons this is actually backed up in cannon. When Homer's given creative control he creates the ultraviolent remake of "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington." He's the type of guy who wants characters to be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine. Opposite that Marge gives notes that lead to a version of The Itchy and Scratchy Show so sanitized and boring that it tanks interest not only in the show but in television itself leading to kids playing outside for once. When Bart makes a cartoon it's the early 2000s flash cartoon Angry Dad, which is crude and violent like a parody of something from Newgrounds. The only time during the early run of The Simpsons where Lisa is put in a similar creative roll is in Season 4 Episode 19's "The Front" when she works with Bart to ghost-write an episode of Itchy and Scratchy which actually wins an award for Outstanding Writing in a Cartoon Series. All of the other core cast members write dreck that the show laughs at. Lisa is the only Simpson family member capable of writing the type of thing the show wants viewers to laugh with.

Mikey Cox

Your guest is really well-informed and nice but I did wish he could be a bit more concise at times. Not my favorite guest, I must admit.

Lockerus

Just going to say up front please don’t take this comment as super negative or anything. I know text is hard to get across true meaning with and on the Internet most people are jerks but I just want to offer some rare (on my part) feedback as a listener. This week’s guest seems nice and is clearly an insightful person, but he has a bit to get up to speed on with being a guest on a podcast. Some guests fit right in with the format and some guests try to take it over, intentionally or not, and this week’s guest is the latter. This podcast is almost two and half hours and it feels like it. Lots of side tangents, I mean it took nearly 20 minutes to start talking about the episode and an hour in you’re still at the start of the opening rodeo gag. I know I’m just one person, but I think this episode could have used some more editing to make it a bit leaner.

SlothIsLegend

This guy is witty and knowledgeable but he needs to learn how to shut the fuck up from time to time. Bob and Henry shouldn’t feel like guests on their own show, fighting to get a word in.

Justen Brown

Regarding the gay/trans jokes of seasons 13-14, I ain’t saying it’s Dana Gould but he did start writing and executive producing when the Simpsons got really mean. Especially heavy is Moe and suicidal jokes.

Dylan Mansfield

Great episode with a great guest! I loved Griffin’s analysis of how quietly tragic Marge’s life is. I think the Thelma and Louise episode in Season 5 is the best representation of this aspect of her character, how — much like this episode — she’ll make a friend for 22 minutes and never meet them again. Funnily enough, both of these episodes end with that friend getting arrested. Marge must have a thing for criminals. Also, no death jingle for Charles Napier?! Shame on you both. Duke Phillips died for our sins.

Josh Crystal

Great episode! I knew exactly what I was getting into seeing Griffin listed as the guest (and I got exactly that) but I didn't know about the massive re-watch he did! I'd love to hear him on the show again for any specific episodes that resonated with him.

nina matsumoto

Henry: it wasn't the vaccine episode that bothered me--it was the episode where Bart pranks a whole cruise ship into believing the world fell under a deadly global pandemic and therefore can't dock, leaving them stranded at sea for weeks, depressed and hopeless (season 23, "A Totally Fun Thing That Bart Will Never Do Again"). Absolutely not fun to watch while isolated during a real pandemic! Anyway, I love Blank Check and I love Griffin as a guest here. SO much good analysis and putting things into context!

Jared Hemming

This is a random question so I’ll just toss it off here: why is Bob’s Twitter handle @BobServo? Is it a pun? Is it a personal reference? I imagine him as some kind of butler robot with that name

somefeatures

I loved the knowledge and enthusiasm Griffin brought to this episode! One of my new favorite guests for sure

Thomas

The guest took over this episode and it really suffers for it. He never stops talking- just going on and on and on, either about himself (who cares) or tangents that add nothing. It's exhausting and ruined an otherwise enjoyable cast, not to mention his grating stemlord voice. Attempting to listen to this made me feel like Milhouse watching the Itchy & Scratching & Poochie Show but the fireworks factory is talking about the actual Pokey Mom episode. Really tried but had to stop after an hour (with 95+ minutes remaining) because I couldn't take it anymore. Please, please, please leave this guy to focus on his own podcast.

javis88h

Who let the dogs out is about MEN creeping on girls in the club. It's the OPPOSITE of what you assumed. (This was recorded a month ago, just wanted to put that in.)

Jeannine Opie

Gosh this episode was tedious. The guest really dominated the conversation and dragged it out to a ridiculous run time. Love your show but please do not have him back.

Padjoe

Great ep!

Thad Komorowski

I kinda figured where this was going when I saw the 2hr, 43 minute length and 30+ comments, and you folks didn't disappoint.

SilkiePJ

This was a really fun episode though it's clearly divisive here. I think Griffin injected a lot of his own chaotic energy which can even brighten up even the most "meh" episodes which Pokey Mom has the reputation of. I really appreciate that Griffin tends to look at media from a grander scope that gives a new context to the jokes, the writers, and the characters were when the show came out. I think he could have been reigned in a bit since he repeats a few of his points; but I imagine Bob/Henry really appreciated that their guest was really studying the greater impact of The Simpsons and Marge and Scully at the moment. Plus all the Michael Keaton talk was pretty lovely. Here's hoping you all get more podcasting royalty!

Joe Hodgson

This episode is just a perfect example of The Simpsons during this era where it's fast-moving and scattershot with no emotional hooks - just jokes. Even still, I like some of the pulls here like Marge actually getting to utilize her talents as an artist, albeit briefly. The cited window gag is also great and reminds me of when the parking lot to the nuclear plant was suddenly adjacent to The Simpsons' home. I'm not going to give them credit for a Moe pull though, but one can sort of read his application to do the school mural as being related to that seldom seen side of Moe we're just not privileged too, such as his reading to the homeless. It could be a joke of this awful, hate-filled, man having an aspect to his personality that requires fulfillment through his reading and now a desire to do some artwork for a school, though I'm pretty sure the intended joke is just "Moe is so pathetic he has no idea what making love could be." And that it was considered the height of comedy at the time to just be random, and Moe applying for that job certainly fits as random.

Frank Grimes

Interesting to see how divisive this ep was, lol. I think this is a good case study to see how people like myself feel about the chapo guys. Since they also seem to be as divisive. Many felt they are/were good guests, but I felt they went on tangents too much or tired too hard to be funny, plus IIRC, they haven't really watched the show past the Golden years. Meanwhile, I can see why griffin could be seen as a guest that did too much, but I enjoyed the banter and knowledge.

Olympian Comics

Phenomenal podcast. Deep and analytical into why this episode had potential that was not quite executed.

Christopher McDougall

When Bob mentions "All Star" and how Shrek took it from Mystery Men, it reminded me of how many people talk about Shrek taking the Bonnie Tyler song "Holding Out for a Hero" that's often associated with Short Circuit 2. But Short Circuit did the Shrek thing to begin with and took the song from Footloose. Having seen both Footloose and Short Circuit 2 in theaters it irked me when people only knew the song from Short Circuit 2. However, now that I think about it, I'm sure way more people watched SC2 than Footloose. And I'm sure more people would want to associate it with a punk rock Johnny 5 rather than a sweaty, tractor showdown with Kevin Bacon.

John Harrison

It has been mentioned before, but I wanted to make a note as well. This was not an entertaining episode for me, one of the few TS shows that I have abandoned. The guest was tiresome and has a heck of a time finding his point. . We all know that it is your show and you should not let the audience dictate your content, but I do believe that customer feedback is an important data point to take into consideration.

Blargh

More Griffin!! I really enjoyed this episode.

Matt Fish

Griffin was very good and should be on more episodes.

Matt Fish

I love the excitement Griff had on the pod

Neil L

Griffin was a great guest. I love how excited he was and all the thoughts he clearly had bottled up about The Simpsons. The best kind of guest for a season 12+ episode. Seems like a lot of people thought he talked to much but I prefer that to guests who don't really add much throughout the episode. I love Bob and Henry but I know their thoughts on the show. It was fun hearing another super knowledgeable take. I am biased, Griffin is one of my favorite Doughboys guests. I'm probably going to start listening to blank check soon too.

Matt Fish

I’m getting very disappointed reading comments saying they couldn’t finish the episode.

No It Doesn't

I've mostly already said this on the Discord but I wanted to show my support here: I think Griffin was a fantastic guest! He brought a lot of insight and him being a late Simpsons watcher and an actor was a fresh new perspective to a Season 12 episode which in itself is really good. I think Bob and Henry were being excellent hosts too for letting Griffin, a new guest to Talking Simpsons, speak his thoughts on the episode and the series in general. I hope Griffin can come back to the show one day, this episode this week was really fun and meaty to listen to!

Diamond Feit

Logging on just to counteract the idea that Griffin was anything less than an exemplary guest. I don't finish EVERY episode of Talking Simpsons but this was one I had to consume all the way to the end.

Mimi Kenny

I enjoy Blank Check but Griffin was just way too long-winded here. It really made things tedious. It took more three days to get through this episode

Luke Baty

Hearing you guys talk about the toy line really brings me back. I was so into those between the age of 10-12. I spent so much allowance money buying the figures and sets, and since they were always on clearance I could get a ton of them. I even had the giant Main Street one. I’m the same way as your guest where I have lines imprinted into my mind because they were said by the play sets. Looking back, they generally weren’t particularly famous lines, but all came from one or two episodes per set.

Tom Brien

I'm a huge Blank Check fan, so I've been waiting for a crossover! I was in on it, but I was wondering the whole time "omg what does this manic rambling sound like if you've never listened to Blank Check???" I gotta read the comments on this one! I understand if people feel a little steamrolled by the episode, maybe Griff shoulda reigned it in 20%

ToonJay723

Also want to chime in here and say that Griffin was a great guest host too. The only problem that he repeats the point about how a delivery for a joke is just set up for a funnier joke later on. Which is fine, these podcasts are off the cuff and he probably didn't realize he was repeating himself. I think the edit should have only kept in one of those, or just condense those parts into one section to avoid the repetition. Otherwise I loved hearing his thoughts about The Simpsons as a whole, his history with it, his history with the merch, and his thoughts on other episodes.

Michael Branson

Agree, he rambled ALOT. Great podcast though guys thanks.

Burt Stanton

I came looking for the guest slander and I wasn't disappointed. I think Griffin was great but I knew there would be the same shitty comments every time a guest has a lot to say or stories to tell. It's always STFU and talk about the episode. The episodes of TS that go on tangents are often my favorite and also who doesn't like more content length? I would much rather have a passion guest back who has a lot to say rather than someone who just sits there and nods along. At that point why even have guests at all?

Thad Komorowski

Just throwing this out there, but this episode is literally the same length as the Poochie episode with Rebecca and Ian.

Marcus

This is a crossover I have been waiting for. Griffin is long winded, but he’s very knowledgeable and has great energy. Any podcast that Griff guests on is gonna run “long”. I will take a longer podcast with an enthusiastic guest any day of the week. It’s rare that a guest has seemed to gave more or equal Simpsons knowledge than Bob and Henry. I look forward to hearing Griffin on more “late” era episodes. (More like mid era now)

CMatt

Comments surprised me. Griffin just seemed jazzed to Talk Simpsons. He had a lot to say and I loved it. Hope he’s back for more of that sweet, sweet 2+ hour pod ‘tent.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

Throwing my two cents in to say that as someone who hasn't listened to Blank Check before (but I'm planning to change that), Griffin was a GREAT guest. He brought a lot of energy and excitement to it. I really LIKE when the shows go down weird rabbit holes because of vague references made by the show or the time frame in which it aired - especially as we get out of the golden age of the show and the Simpsons episodes themselves don't always offer a lot of substance. -- As for the Simpsons episode itself, it's definitely a solid one with awesome work by Michael Keaton, but as you guys said it really peters out in the end and would've benefited from trimming some fat to really focus more on Marge's plotline. That being said, for a Marge episode in season 12, it's much better than I was expecting when I turned it on again.

Samwise

I thought this guy was a great guest, he seemed to really get what worked/didn't work about the show, and ha some really thoughtful observations about the Simpsons as a whole. Perfect example of how to use a kind of unmemorable episode to generate good discussion.

rubber cat

Griffin's theory that Al Jean secretly resents the show is intriguing and something I'll keep in mind as I rewatch the upcoming seasons

Michael Branson

Hahaha did anyone else watch the Fatman on Batman at comiccon. Griffen was on there. Kevin Smith had to tell him to be quiet and that he was being annoying.

James Babbo

So nice of Bob & Henry to guest star on their own podcast.