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What A Cartoon Movie! - The Transformers: The Movie (Patreon)

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2022-10-31 04:00:06
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Animated kids films were different 40 years ago: Some of the top animators in Japan are hired to make toy commercials for American children where they can watch all their favorite characters get shot to death onscreen! Yes, we're digging deep into the 1986 Transformers film that was meant to start a new era of the toy franchise but instead traumatized a generation of youngsters--all with a rocking '80s soundtrack and stars like Leonard Nimoy and Orson Welles. Learn all about how this film has The Touch in this month's big What A Cartoon Movie podcast!

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Lorin Bernsen

Been so, so looking forward to this one!

Diamond Feit

would you believe my TF: The Movie t-shirt arrived today? Kismet!

To Boldly Joe... Moore

Loving the podcast so far, guys! Just a quick note to fellow Starscream lover Henry; the "Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Coronation Starscream" figure is really good (and not too expensive). It comes with the cape, crown and throne and actually transforms. ^_^

Dave Dalrymple

I was one of the kids who was still a big fan of Transformers after the movie, and kept playing with the new toys for as long as they were on shelves (I even liked the Action Masters). I liked when the show would go and do weird sci fi stuff in season 3. The three Japanese-only seasons from the late 1980s are worth seeking out, but they are targeted at a slightly younger audience than the American cartoon.

Jason J

I just upgraded by Patreon to listen to this one. Then I can go back and listen to all the other WAC Movie podcasts.

Cossover

Ok all the transformers that make it are from the cartoon are newer toys so still selling them 1985 or whatever so money

Stephen Vathakos

This is probably my favorite piece of media in the Transformers franchise. This movie was my introduction to G1 Transformers so Optimus Primes' death really didnt have much impact on me. After watching the movie as a kid I sought out G1 Transformers episodes and I honestly thought they were trash and it didnt live up to what I saw in the movie. The only Transformers toys I have are the characters from this movie (Ultra Magnus, Galvatron, Rodimus Prime and Unicron). It may not be a great movie but it is a fun ride.

Dave Dalrymple

One thing I have to point out that I'm surprised and disappointed that you didn't pick up on: When the first draft of the script was written in late 1984 (which is where they made the decision to kill off the older characters like Optimus Prime), they had no idea how well the toys would be selling in 1986. Heck, they barely had data for how well the toys were selling at the time. They hadn't even had a Christmas season at that point. The story is not "Optimus was killed because kids stopped buying his toy". The story is "Optimus Prime was killed because Hasbro assumed that kids would be bored of his toy by 1986." And that's a story that has NOT been analyzed to death on retrospective podcasts and documentaries. Most of the prior docs have uncritically spread the self-evident fallacy that "Hasbro decided [in 1984] to kill Optimus Prime in the 1986 movie because Optimus Prime was no longer selling [in 1986]."

Lorin Bernsen

I can’t stomach the narrative that killing off Optimus Prime was a mistake. From a purely marketing perspective…sure. But as a bold creative choice, that made it stand out from other animated entertainment at the time? It’s probably the #1 reason that people still remember this movie today, and also why every newer version of Transformers feels obligated to include at least one reference to it.

Chris Dobson

Interesting that Bob missed this show, I'm a bit younger (born 1984) and grew up with it, it was a staple of Sunday morning cartoons on what eventually became UPN, and the first season VHS were some of my favorites (to the point that my mom just bought me the Dinobots episode). I think part of it was that, by the time the fad was in a bit of remission in 87-88, kids my age were the perfect age to get the toys at less than full price or have it in daycare/kindergarten environments.

Dylan

Surprise appearance from 10% furry Bob

Tashmon Dimps

I was a little worried that this podcast would be a painful listen because I have a strong fondness for this film, but I'm easily able to laugh along at how campy and ridiculously obtuse this movie is to anyone who hasn't dedicated whole chunks of their brain to memorizing the names of the funky plastic robot men. I think the reason that I dig this movie (and Gen 1 Transformers in general) is that it's so nakedly capitalistic that it loops around to being weirdly dark for what it is. Nowhere in children's media will you have this much carnage and main character death. The reason for the artistic choice is profit incentivized, but the choice to treat this 90 minute toy commercial like a sci-fi war movie with devastating casualties is a choice nonetheless. Granted, my relationship with 80's cartoons in general is pretty unique. I'm 22 and I didn't technically grow up with shows like Ninja Turtles and Transformers. I did, however, grow up in the age of all these things getting rebooted and it made me seek out these old shows in my teenage years through DVD releases, Youtube content and podcasts like this one. Toy Commercial Cartoons are such a guilty pleasure for me. I vastly prefer media with real stories and characters, but there's something deeply fun about a show that's trying so hard to make something narratively out of the mountains of plastic weirdos they have to push. I like to think I have a "Consumerism Shield" and can view these things with the context that I'm being advertised to, but looking at all the figures that surround my bedroom, I guess it's not that strong after all haha.

Andrew Bouvier

Loved the episode, guys. Transformers was one of the first things I ever remember being a fan of as a kid, second to maybe only The Muppets. Regarding Henry mentioning how Optimus Prime was brought back, he was actually brought back twice! As crazy as it sounds, the first time he came back was probably even more traumatizing to young children than his death. In the third season episode "Dark Awakening", ( https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Dark_Awakening_(episode) ) a group of Autobots are pursued by the Deceptions and take refuge in the Autobots' flying space mausoleum. While there, they encounter what can best be described as a zombie Optimus Prime. Imagine being 8 or 9 years old, and this is the first time you see Optimus since his death in the movie: https://imgur.com/a/qnU4i9K For "just" being a robot, that's some pretty horrific body horror! As a kid, that episode freaked me out and upset me more than the movie. Especially since Optimus is acting "off" the whole time, and we find out it's because the Quintisons revived him and re-programmed him to be "evil" and lure the remaining Autobots into a trap, though eventually as you'd expect, he was able to overcome his new programming and instead (seemingly ) sacrificed himself to save the rest of the autobots. But then several episodes later, in the two parter " The Return of Optimus Prime" , he was resurrected AGAIN and came back for good... "For good" meaning for the three remaining episodes of the G1 cartoon run.

Dave Dalrymple

And in Japan, they killed him AGAIN, just a few episodes into the fourth season. So, in Japan, the toy that was known as "Powermaster Optimus Prime" in the US ended up being a completely different character called Ginrai. The resemblance between Ginrai and Prime was only acknowledged in the final clip show of the fifth season.

Joe Hodgson

If Bob had to watch this, then I felt I owed it to him to go on a 4+ hour ride via the podcast. I don't think I ever sat through this movie from start to finish as a kid. Transformers weren't a thing I gravitated towards, I wasn't big on cars or robots, so I had maybe 1 or 2 G1 toys. I did get into G2 a little when that came out, and even spent 30 of my own 1992 dollars on the Optimus reissue from that which is pretty shocking to me looking back on it. I tried to engage with the film when it got released on DVD in 2006 or 7 and wow, did I hate it. Yes, the animation is good, but most of the film is just so boring and ridiculous. Anytime I refresh my memory on the actual running time for this one I'm shocked it isn't longer because it feels like a 2 hour movie. I get it though, I have nostalgia goggles for many things, though few of those things are movies, now that I think about it. The Real Ghostbusters, TMNT, the X-Men cartoon - I can be carried through an episode or two by nostalgia, but definitely not 90 minutes. As a modern toy collector, I have to say Hasbro is still up to the same bullshit as they were back in the 80s, with just less death and carnage since they don't want to spend money producing films. They just tried another one of their Kickstarter styled campaigns which crashed and burned yesterday. It was for Ghost Rider, but for his car. I'm not big into comics so I had no idea Ghost Rider even had a car these days. They wanted $350 bucks for it, and to get people onboard they tossed in an X-Men character and a figure for their character Mephisto under the guise that they'll never make these characters available again because they're too evil for retail. If some X-Men fan wants a figure of the Goblin Queen they have to spend 350 bucks on a car for a character they don't value and hope nearly 10,000 other people are willing to do so (they had to sell 12k to get Mephisto). It's no surprise it failed as it barely hit 50% of the backers needed. The only good thing is that Hasbro is basically just trying to fleece people my age instead of little kids now since so few kids are buying action figures these days. Transformers are still going strong though, they have a crowd funding campaign up right now for someone I don't know and I think a Christmas themed Optimus Prime goes onsale today too. I may not be big on Transformers, but I am a mark for Christmas themed toys so I might have to give that one a look. And Hasbro even licenses out Transformers to other toy companies too! Super7 makes figures of them, but they're not allowed to transform, and even have one of the shark robots from this movie on the way. It would seem it's a pretty good time to be alive if you're into Transformers.

David Thomson

I liked this episode, as it had a much different dynamic than most Talking Simpson/What a Cartoon. Normally you guys are pretty much in sync, either both liking something (due to a shared nostalgia or reappreciating something you didn't like in your teenage/young adult days) or hate (Cool World). However this episode was from the perspective of both you first viewings (7 year old Henry and 40 year old Bob) and it made it a really interesting listen. I'm on Bob's side for this one. My childhood cartoon obsessions went He-Man > ThunderCats > Ghostbusters > TMHT, so Transformers just seemed to miss me, although I knew it existed and got a few toys as gifts (from relatives who didn't really know me). I remember watching this first when I was 17 with friends who had nostalgia but I didn't and thought it was the most complex basic movie I'd seen and I still feel that way after re-watching in anticipation for this podcast. Great soundtrack though.

Aaron Alcott

I enjoy this movie, but I also paid money to see Manos: The Hands Of Fate and The Room in a theater so what can I say?

Sean Ryan

I've been a huge Transformers fan ever since I was a kid and even saw this movie in the theater at the tender age of 7. Yes, it traumatized me as it did us all at the time. In the early days of the internet, I learned that the "shit" version of the movie was released on VHS in the mid-90s (brace for lack of surprise, Bob)...in Canada. I was quick to import it in its lovely clamshell case. As for when Gen 1 ended, in the US I'd say it was the Action Masters. That's when Hasbro just kinda gave up and just threw out Transformers that, wow, DIDN'T transform. Then Gen 2 begins with the toyline of the same name a few years later.

Sean Ryan

Transformers: The Movie is also the catalyst for something that literally changed my life. When Generation 2 hit, my nostalgia for the original series began to swell. I was desperate to find a copy of the movie's soundtrack. The 1993 Marvel comic book tie in was currently running, so wrote into their letters page to ask if they knew where to find it. They printed my letter in Issue 11, including my FULL HOME ADDRESS--which seems irresponsible of Marvel since I was only 16 (a minor). I was soon contacted by other fans all over the globe; some of which I'm still friends with to this day. I got into the world of anime tape trading for Japanese Transformers shows and even took part in a fanzine. One person straight up sent me a cassette of the soundtrack, which I cherished until someone helped me find the CD.

Ric Mahurin

Well it was everything I hoped for. I have been waiting for this movie since you guys started what a cartoon - you guys even cracked a few zingers I had not heard before

Jon

Henry, I gotta be the person telling you you've mispronounced something: Regina, Saskatchewan is, as the old joke goes, "the city that rhymes with fun". Great episode guys, I was born 96 so this goofy commercial feels like another world. I guess my generation's best equivalent is the Bionicle movies, which also have a fervently devoted fanbase to their goofy lore.

Frank Grimes

never caught it in the theater as a kid but had it on a (bootleg) tape....it wasn't until the recentish anniversary theatrical screening I got to finally see it on the big screen. it obviously wouldn't hit the same as if I were a kid in the 80's...but I think it was cool seeing people my age bring their kids in to watch it....it was like when I went to see Willy Wonka's anniversary screening last year...theater was full of 60+ year olds...a few people my age (30's)

Aaron Alcott

This was excellent and makes me wish y'all would talk about the GI Joe movie, which is maybe exactly as good as this movie. What a sell, huh?

nina matsumoto

I've bothered you about this before but Henry: it's "sakuga booru", not "buuro." It's literally the word "ball" pronounced in Japanese: boh-roo. You can even just say ball-u