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The Walking Dead 4 x 5-6 | Full-Length Reaction (Patreon)

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2025-10-07 23:29:39
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Susan B

I think we could each survive the apocalypse if we had a Herschel and a Michonne

Susan B

It’s so easy to forget that Glenn was a goofy pizza-delivery kid with a backwards baseball cap when we first met him. I hope you’ll get to see this actor in his fabulous starring role in Beef!

Susan B

The prison flu here reminds me of a book I read about the WWI “Spanish flu.” It was most serious in young adults, not kids or elderly. Newspapers were trying not to hinder the war effort by acknowledging an epidemic, so there were pages and pages of obits in cities like Chicago that cited “heart attack” or even “natural causes.” It was only called the Spanish Flu because a Spanish newspaper was the first to report on it.

Susan B

Everybody needs a Herschel during the saddest times.

Melissa

41:25 Ohhhhh, one of my favorite scenes of the entire series ready to pop off! That Rick/Carl scene -- every second of it -- is incredible. After Rick basically making Carl move away from his gun/violence for months after he killed that rando in the forest, then needing his help. And Carl is there. On point. By his side. The way Rick looks at him after Carl tosses him the ammo and steps forward brings tears to my eyes. I know it may sound silly that I get so emotional at the scene because they're killing zombies, but there's something so moving to me about the father/son bond. Topped off at the end of the episode with the simplest pleasure of opening a snap pea and eating from it together. The fruits of their labors being enjoyed side by side. It's beautiful.

Melissa

56:05 Your face. Perfection. Exactly how I felt.

Melissa

1:01:23 Give me a Tyreese every day of the week. What you're saying is spot on. Daryl, too. Being a "man" is much more than toughness. So so much more. On the flip side of that, I think Maggie represents the other side of that coin. She's tough as nails but so caring and kind. I love her, and I don't say it enough.

Ellen Noir

How I interpreted the conversation with Meg in the bathroom…he was talking about trying to help his daughter and this mean, horrible woman came along with a sword and killed her. He's sugar-coating it because he's in denial about how he handled her getting bitten and his part in the sudden brutality of her death. I’m pretty sure that if he was just a regular normal guy, too afraid to put her down and Michonne found out about it, she would have talked to him and tried to get him to see the reality of the situation. She would have helped him let his daughter go. Instead, what Michonne saw was a shady creep who was keeping a little girl walker in chains with a bag over her head. The level of delusion in this man is staggering. I think it's all due to his ego.

Susan B

If you’ve ever been so depressed that it was difficult to speak, that’s the vibe I get from Philip in his episode. It’s the kind of despair that drains you of the will to put shoes on, brush teeth, and hardest of all to feign interest in a conversation.

Ellen Noir

The way I see it, the Governor’s worldview was just destroyed, and he started out the episode filled with despair and self-pity because of that. Before Woodbury went to shit, he thought he was invincible. He was convinced that he was just the leader of an upstanding community, and he was always justifying everything he did as necessary to keep the town going because they needed him. He thought he was the only one who could “make the hard choices”. He thought he was meant to be the one and that he deserved to be the one. But he was just an unhinged tyrant. That’s what he became in the face of the apocalypse because his overblown ego and self-centeredness were probably already the dominant parts of his personality. I love that the show decided to explore all of that. They weren’t satisfied just saying that he’s a villain for villain’s sake. Yet another demonstration of the endless ways people react to the end of the world. I can’t say for sure if he ended the episode willing to take ownership of all the bad things he did but at least he gave the family compassion and protection.

Erin n Stefan

Does the governor know that anyone who dies comes back as a zombie, rather than just ones who are bitten? It’s so hard to keep track of who knows what… and I got half an hour left to go 😂 But damn if he really wants to help this family he will tell them that when their dad dies, he is going to turn! I imagine since the noise of a fight is probably more than walking past a confined zombie, it’s probably much less work to just leave the ones who can’t get to you anyway.

Erin n Stefan

They didn’t know that for sure, they didn’t even know you have to hit them in the brain to kill them!

Sofia W

Walking Dead Day is always 10/10!! 🧟‍♂️

Broody Gaming

I swear the writers of this show have the biggest crush on The Governor lol. I just wanna throw rotten fruit at the dude. You have more grace than I haha It’s funny I’m finally watching AoT for the first time, near the end of season 2 and every time you mention it I’m more familiar with the names and am so curious by the tidbits haha. I know 0 about the show. What do you MEAN the 4th season is from reiners perspective!?!?! Haha 😂

melskmelsk

"How much can you take?!" is pretty much the premise of the show lol

frankfreezy

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk okay I'll stop mentioning anything AOT related. Because I would be so heartbroken if I spoil anything for you. That is my favorite piece of media of all time and I'm so happy you're watching it. Only have reactions to the last two episodes on my channel so check them out when that time comes.

KimM

Epi 5 Sheer chaos is what this episode should have been titled...so much chaos that I was stressed out watching it even though I already knew the outcome from watching it when it first aired. It tore me seeing Hershel break down sobbing, but I know it was a needed emotional release from all the stress. And he is simply exhausted as all the sickness reached its peak, showing all of his attempts to keep the quarantine under control, the sick people alive, and prevent anyone who succumbs from reanimating.....even with a bit of spaghetti levity...in all this chaos, Hershel keeps his sense of humor. He did his best, he is a hero. As you say, he is always considering others state of mind. Agree with you Frank, Hershel is the Terminator with a shotgun!! After Rick giving Carl a very short crash course on how to reload an assault rifle, Carl begins getting headshots left and right, and smoothly reloads the rifle on his first try much to his father's surprise.Like Father, like Son when Rick realizes that Carl is just as good a shot as he is - and then some. I liked how the final scene of episode 5 closely mirrors the opening scene of the season 4 premiere, with Rick coming out of the prison to tend to the garden. And yet, with all the chaos that went on due to people being sick and walkers crashing parts of the fence....the last thing we need is the closing shot revealing the Governor standing out of sight beyond the prison fences. UGH!!!

melskmelsk

Plenty of people, especially elderly people, use wheelchairs to get around when they still have use of their legs (too weak to walk for long, balance issues, etc). Folks with other mobility issues get accused of faking it all the time because of that false idea that only paralyzed folks use wheelchairs.

KimM

Epi 6 Well I don't have much to say about it. Yes, it is difficult to believe that the Chambler do not know how to kill walkers after nearly two years (despite having the weaponry to do it). They have been sheltered, home bound taking care of their sick father. The one thing that stands out for me is the chess lesson....that you can lose all your pawns but still win the war, and that victory is only ensured by capturing the king, who now has a little eyepatch drawn on which is quite relevant if you know the game of chess.......I will say no more.

pamysue

"Make shit" Thanks for that. My first real LOL of the day 🤣✌️ Hershel made a comment on the farm that Maggie was hard headed like her Mom. I think she gets it from her father also. After we pass spaghetti 🍽️🍝 Tuesdays on Wednesday, I want a resolution that Daryl & Michonne don't leave at the same time anymore. 😟 I am less stressed when one of them is around the madness of life at the prison. The music in this episode is SO good!🎵🎶 I knew we'd have to deal with Phillip again, but damn. Eyepatch could have given us a episode to get over the plague first! Back watching this in real time, we had an after show called "The Talking Dead". I so wish those episodes were all available for you, Frank! The actors, writers, producers, super fans, celebrity fans would be on with Chris Hardwick to discuss each episode. Sometimes it was better than the episode itself! They really delved into every nuance much like you do. As for seeing another side of the Governor... I didn't read the books until the show was over. He was horrible in the show, but when you see him in the comics there is no redeeming this man ever. Not for me. My attitude rewatching it now is just hate for this character. People seem to give redemption to characters on tv much quicker than IRL. So many think Meryl was completely forgiven after letting Michonne. Unfortunately he didn't live long enough to show, but no way did I forgive his racist, misogynist ways from one act. I give everyone I meet trust and respect from the start. If you lose it, it's not coming back so easily. I cannot imagine what Phillip could do to change my mind about him.

First Name Ella

56:45 welcome to watching The Walking Dead. You're just going to get more pissed off from here lol

First Name Ella

The show writing off Dale because the actor was loyal to the first showrunner is atrocious and makes me so angry to THIS DAY. So many characters got bad arcs or written off due to political bullshit outside of the show, like what I said happened to Laurie Holden. Luckily the asshole that ran season 2 got fired and then the asshole that ran season 3 got fired. I think we would have gotten a better and more well-rounded show had Glen (the original showrunner, the guy who brought the damn show to life to begin with) had stuck around.

First Name Ella

So I looked it up: in our actual timeline, it's day 524 since the first day of the outbreak. In the Governor flashback, when he gets to the sisters, it's unknown, but it is known that the day the Governor wakes up and sees that the other two dudes have abandoned him and then sets fire to Woodbury is day 314. So maybe it's day 400 or around there when he meets the sisters? Also they didn't know anything about walkers because they said they'd been holed up there the entire time, they didn't even know you had to shoot them in the brain. As an aside, I have to be honest and say it kind of bothers me that anyone could be willing to forgive Shane after he tried to rape Lori, and be willing to forgive The Governor after what he did to Maggie, among killing a dozen+ innocent people. I mean with Shane he killed one dude horribly and that was too much- there's literally nothing The Governor could do to earn any forgiveness. The willingness to forgive men who try to sexually hurt women... not to mention what he wanted to do to Michonne. Him doing something nice for these girls isn't even about them, it's about him and his ego and how he wants to see himself. He's a true narcissist.

First Name Ella

Actually. when The Governor meets the sisters, it's around day 345-400 (probably more like 400, we know it's day 314 since the outbreak when Martinez and the other guy abandon The Governor according to the official sources, which kind of doesn't make sense if you consider the timeline of Lori's pregnancy, Judith's birth etc, but I digress) so they haven't been holed up two years, but I think your point does stand... there's only so much food a single food truck can hold for four people, and they would have HAD to deal with some of the other people living in that apartment, right? Also, that song at the beginning is by Ben Nichols. I STRONGLY recommend his song Shelter, and the movie it comes from, Take Shelter. It's so great.

First Name Ella

Have you seen Minari? Such a great movie about a Korean-American family moving to Arkansas. He was nominated for an Oscar for Best Leading Man, and another actress in the film won for Best Supporting Actress, for good reason. It was also nominated for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Original Screenplay!

Susan B

Well now that’s on my watch list. Minari. Thanks!

MegMegMegg

I am so late to the party this week, but I have a lot to say as always. I love Hershel so much. Just the idea that every single life means the world to him gives him such a strong moral backbone to lean on when he's struggling. It's also his kryptonite, though, as we've seen. When those lives he values are lost, he takes it so much harder than others. He also puts himself at risk to keep others safe and happy to an unreasonable degree, which leaves him in close-call situations often. You brought up Shane, and it made me recall his disdain for Hershel. He would have cut him off like a weed, either killing him or letting him die. Because Rick showed that compassion for Hershel, Sasha and Glenn, and so many others were saved by him down the line. Everyone matters, and everyone has a job to do. No one is worthless, and that is part of what the show teaches us. The relief I feel every time I watch Daryl's group return in episode 5, such a great feeling seeing them and the sun again after so much darkness through the episode. You are so valid in your reaction to seeing the Governor again. I remember the lot of us yelling together in the living room when he showed up on our screen. A very special Governor episode, or so we called episodes focusing on one character in particular, separated from the rest of the main group. I can't even lie, it feels so good to see the Governor falling on the ground and eating cat food. The writers really knew what they were doing, knew we needed to see him get some kind of punishment. His one and only good point as a character, besides being damn near unkillable, is that he does seem to genuinely have a soft spot for little girls. I'm fully confident he would never hurt a living girl on purpose. That's good writing for you, though, when the villains have some good points and the heroes have some flaws; nothing is black and white. Still hate him, but fell in love with Tara's family. The dad putting all of himself into protecting his family, even with Stage 4 cancer; his love for his daughters reminds me of Hershel. Tara still being so young but having the maturity to understand things so fast; we know how long it has taken others to understand before. Lilly being so strong and intelligent and keeping her family sane. And Meghan being just the sweetest little girl with all the curiosity, and still able to be a kid so far into the apocalypse. Crazy to see a family so isolated so long after the outbreak began. They didn't know about how to kill walkers, how you become one, or how bad it really is outside. They are a huge contrast to our main group, but not far off from where Rick was when he woke up from his coma. I like the difference between The Governor putting down a zombie that failed to opt out and Bob's moment with that. Bob killed the walker out of compassion for the human it once was; the Governor killed the walker in the tub to grab his gun. I've been mentioning Bob every video, it feels like, but the writing for his character and the way he is portrayed are just sooo juicy. Just one of those seemingly meaningless characters that carries a lot of weight, he's like the continuation of the series showing us how manhood can be represented in so many ways. He and Tyreese were perfect additions to continue that conversation. The scene in the nursing home reminds me of the game Outlast. When people come back as walkers, their bodies seem to remain in the state they were in at death until they either begin to decompose or get injured by an outside source. So that old lady in the wheelchair probably wasn't paralyzed. Many wheelchair users are ambulatory wheelchair users, which means they use them to manage pain, manage balance issues, to conserve energy, or for mobility, because, though they can move their legs, they can't walk long distances. Even for paralyzed people, it's actually pretty uncommon to be 100% paralyzed. Out of around 1.1 million people with paraplegia (paralysis that affects the legs), only about 20% have a complete loss of movement and sensation. Lots of people assume all wheelchair users have to be paralyzed and then start shit with people who are disabled cause they "saw them faking it" when they see them stand, but they were using a wheelchair, mobility scooter, or handicap spot or stall. My dad is disabled, but only sometimes feels he needs a cane, so people have given him crap for making use of those amenities designed for people like him because "[he] can walk, so it can't be that bad." Sorry, I went on an unrelated rant, haha. The Governor burning down Woodbury and then burning the photo of his family seems to be symbolic of him trying to leave his past self behind and move on to become a different person. Beautiful symbolism, but teenage me was not buying any of it my first watch. I was just antsy for them to get back to the present because whatever happened in the flashback, bro was still staring down the prison menacingly in the previous episode, and I wasn't having any of that redemption shit after what he did. My family kept poking fun at me by saying he's gonna be the new Rick and become the main character. 😭

MegMegMegg

That's an interesting point. I wonder if people are more willing to accept redemption in live-action television because they connect the character to a real person's face, and as humans, we just naturally want to give others grace, so that when we need it, we are offered grace as well. That might be too optimistic of me. The Governor in the comics was a cartoonish, exaggerated black and white villain for sure. The Governor we know is a combination of two brothers who both led Woodbury at one point, and both of them were evil, unredeemable men. The amount of rape in the comics and novels perpetrated by these two characters solidified them as truly evil for me. His "Brian" persona in the tv show is an homage to Philip's brother and kind of an interesting way to give a wink to the audience that knows the comics and novels. But it's possibly intended that the Philip/Governor we know is actually his brother, Brian, and the events in the novels from his life before are pretty much the same. I know you probably know a lot of this, but I was adding on to what you said for Frank in case he didn't know.

MegMegMegg

Haha, I made a comment about this as well before I scrolled down to read everyone else's. Great minds!

pamysue

I'm not sure how far Frank read in the novels so thanks for adding that side story in. Because I watched the show first, it was hard to see past the characters names and a few things that they brought to the screen, but I found the stories to be so different. I couldn't say which I think is "better". They are just so different. On the forgiveness matter, I have been around for quite a while and I see people carrying grudges on much smaller matters for so long. I see the same in Supernatural groups with Crowley. I don't know if you know that universe but he was horrible to the brothers for years but as soon as DemonDean emerges and they have a evil bromance people were so forgiving of the character. I'm a retired social worker and love watching people and hearing their thoughts. I do hope many give the grace in their real life that they do to fictional people on the internet. It's hard. I have a sister I still don't speak to and several people tell me I need to forgive her. From my perspective, she has never said she was sorry so I don't feel the need to forgive her. There is no doubt in my mind that she would do the same thing all over again. Also, where I live we have a lot of people like Meryl as far as the racism goes. I don't make friends with them. We are different on a basic lever that I won't have in my life. Some of them are probably great people other than their hatred for anyone that isn't white, but I cannot get past that. 🤔✌️

skye

42:21 i'm watching the show for the first time and watching your reactions every time i finish an episode and i'm only five episodes in s4, but i can already say Hershel is my #1 favorite this season. it kinda changes around depending on the season and i feel like Hershel's scenes has just been so consistent in terms of how much they make me feel and i love his heart so much. :(

Susan B

I agree. And then Negan gets a whole hero arc and main character forgiveness after he coerced all those women to be his “wives” and pretend to love him, under threats to the people they loved.