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Erin n Stefan

The way I saw you post something in the chat and decided to stay awake to see if the SFU episode would pop up. And here it is!! This was one of the first big successful HBO shows, along with the Sopranos. They realized they could make bangers. HBO walked so Netflix could run (though Netflix, I have some bones to pick).

James W.

I f we're lucky Netflix will buy HBO (Warner/Discovery) and then it will just be part of the programing there. If not then David Ellison is going to slurp it up and then it will be bundled to hell and gone with Paramount+. Lowkey hate aall the streaming rights and acquisitions.

Dylan Schaefer

Love all the Ruth appreciation in these episodes. Francis Conroy annihilates the role. An indelible, singular character and performance.

silly goose

i get the "breathing thru ur mouth" technique when it comes to smelly things, it's my go to tactiv when i'm about to clean the litter boxes and one of my cats decided to take a fat dump 5 minutes before. just the thought of the pungent smell filling my mouth as i try to breathe ruins the alllusion that i'm not actually breaithing it in lmaooooo. sorry thats all that came to mind just now lmao

Atom

Part of what makes Brenda so enjoyable is that she's not just interesting, but she clearly brings out a more interesting version of Nate. He's more clever and surprising because of her, and the writers make that evident even though you've just met both of them. And that's the difference between a manic pixie dream girl and a woman with depth (as well as the difference between a complex sad sack vs. a generic writer-stand-in sad sack).

silly goose

claire and keith bonding over the foot was so unexpectedly cute ngl. i need more of them together on screen!!! that talk about how claire wishes she could know the david that keith knows, hit me. i have 2 older bio brothers and they have always been closer to each other than me even though i was more attached to my middle bio bro than anyone else for a long time. growing up, he was my hero but he never identified with me bc he matured and i was just only growing up (10 years apart) and he's always been logical and i've always been emotional. now that i'm in my 30s and he's in his 40s, we're not close but we're on good terms, but i don't know him like i wish i did. i get more info on him from our mother than from him directly because there is no real connection between us and mannnnnnn, it hurts. anyway, my point from ranting on about personal shortcomings with my family is that claire really struck a chord with me this episode. i see her loneliness when it comes to having two older brothers that she doesn't have a connection with. all three of them are doing their own thing and it's like, yeah you're biologically family but when blood is the only thing tieing you togehter, sometimes you ask yourself 'what else is there?' and it sucks when you can't form a deeper connection than just ur coincidental genetics.

Atom

Truly truly. She never plays anything for a laugh, and it makes the comedy work so much better!

silly goose

i've watched plenty of tv and this episode is one of the few that doesn't make my latino ppl feel like just charicitures. the casting was great, the dialogue was great, all around great execution. i'm not saying it was perfect but i remember this episode with fondness. i loved that they explored the backgrounds respectfully with rico and his pr background, and pacos' mx background. it's a sore spot for us latinos, to be grouped into one when we're so different. i really enjoyed the way this show handled it. the prayer scene was beautiful, i still cry when i watch it.

Erin n Stefan

This show is so wonderful because the dynamics between the characters are all so fully realized and specific to each character, it means no matter who is in the scene together there’s something really interesting to see.

melskmelsk

Breathing through your mouth makes me think of dissection classes in college. You can lessen how much air is passing olfactory membranes and reduce scent perception. Not great to bypass the helpful filters in your nasal cavity though, and mouth breathing makes you feel like you're tasting it instead. Better to breathe normally and get used to whatever unpleasant smell you're immersed in.

frankfreezy

It was so fucking good. I was a bit disappointed when our characters were diving into the stereotypes tha white folk usually have for Hispanic people. But I love how they give all of them so much depth just like in real life.

frankfreezy

I feel for you. Wishing you were closer to someone or you knew them more can be so heartbreaking. The yearning is so real.

frankfreezy

Straight fact. She feels like an actual person.

frankfreezy

😂😂😂 i’m gonna try that when cleaning the litter box next time

Laura Thate

Brenda is my favorite for all the reasons you stated Frank… I have come to see a vulnerability in her hidden child that is cleverly concealed in Brenda wearing clad socks and Mary Jane patten shoes paired with her above calf plain pattern dresses reminiscent of the 1950’s era style dress code for girls and young teens of the times. This is a well structured show with good timing that allows the story to breathe.

Ledgedancer

Oooooof, “I am a tree” broke me for a fair bit of time.

KimM

You realize after viewing epi. 3 that most likely each episode’s opening scene is going to show us how some poor soul bites the dust. When you see how many freakish and bizarre ways a person can die either in real life or on various TV shows like the ones you mention Frank...it makes you realize that when it's your time to die, it's simply your time to die! No one wakes up in the morning thinking they will die in a big dough mixer like shown in the show, but as they say...shit happens! So much going on in these 2 episodes. Nate is certainly impressionable and adaptable. For instance, we see how much more deft he’s become, after just a short time, in his interactions with Brenda. Nate is a quick study, and he’s learning how to countermove Brenda’s moves. After knocking her off balance with the Seattle remark, he finishes his counter-attack by bringing up the “Nathaniel” tattoo again. Enjoyed seeing Brenda speechless. It is fun to watch these two. He’s not on her level yet—she comes back at him hard later in the abandoned house—but he’s definitely a sparring partner. Poor Claire, she's on cloud nine, but then sees the cruelty inflicted by the students at what I call What A Bunch Of Assholes High School who adorned her hearse with colorful slogans. What pissed me off even more is when Claire confronts Gabe, who has an infuriating nonchalance attitude about the fact that their experiment with podophilia is now common knowledge. Gabe’s attitude seems to be that since Claire is already the weird funeral chick, what difference does it make if she’s the weird foot-sucking chick as well....Gabe needs to go!  This is the episode where Claire realizes the advantages in not being “one of them.” She’s not one of the cool kids, which offers her the unfettered privilege of messing with them. The whole interrogation bit of Gabe with David as Keith’s “crazy-ass motherfucker” partner is gold!! I have to admit, I hate when kleenex is left in pockets and then it gets all over the laundered clothes! But yeah, Ruth is wound tight and the way Ruth discards her dead husband’s clothes with military efficiency is wild! Her friend Amelia feels at times so overbearing and she seems to want to see Ruth cry so she can lend her shoulder to cry on. I get it though because Ruth has lots of crap that she needs to release. I had to laugh, when Ruth’s safety valve finally pops off at the racetrack, in the direction of a sweet couple being cutesy at the betting windows. And then she and Amelia play the horses and Ruth blows $25,000. How I wish I could do that!!  But the truth comes out when Ruth get home. She wants to feel alive, a key insight into her. Ruth has always been the most sensible, restrained, somewhat boring member of a family that isn’t filled with excitement to begin with. As she comes back home you can tell she can’t face the boredom any more. In a way, it doesn’t matter to Ruth whether she won thousands of dollars or lost them, as long as she was finally living life anywhere but ground zero. I think Brenda shows up an hour early for her first dinner with the Fishers, because Brenda never wants anybody to be prepared for Brenda. She wants to keep people off balance is my take on her. This dinner scene is incredible. There is some hilarious awkwardness, like Brenda telling Ruth that she doesn’t stick her thumbs in people—“at least, not as part of my job.”  LOL! Indeed, Frank....there's our Dexter showing up!! That was an amazing scene. Michael C. Hall sets the tone with that glare he gives to show he will not let himself be rolled over by Gilardi, even when Gilardi laughs in his face. David had every opportunity to tuck his tail between his legs, but he doesn't and his tirade clearly rattles Gilardi. David is conducting business and we see now that he is nobody’s bitch. Thank you, Paco!! And prayer scene, once again brought tears to my eyes.  So telling when Ruth smiled when Claire admits that she may have swiped that foot. To me Ruth seems proud of Claire because you see her little smirk.... which would seem like an unusual reaction to your child’s admitting she’s a corpse thief. But I think this is just the right amount of so called delinquency to Ruth....it's a bit messed up for sure, but at least Claire’s finally being honest about it. You can tell she loves her daughter so much here.

Matthew Arner

Man there’s so much I want to say but I just want to wait a bit before I speak too freely. But I will say I just love so much the way this show writes its characters. I honestly probably don’t strongly dislike any characters in this show bc they’re all so well written to where u feel for them and can empathize with why/how they became who they are.

Philly Therapist

I love this interpretation. I always felt like Ruth's (you meant Ruth, right?) clothing was some sort of statement, really out of step with what most people would be wearing in 2000's L.A. area, but never put my finger on it.

Laura Thate

Yes I meant Ruth, thank you 🙏🏼 I am so glad what I said was able to help you fit into place a puzzle piece you found missing. I love it here because others view point and analysts help me see and clarify thoughts were unable to settle my mind. Your comment is very appreciated.

Melissa

1:43:25 Hello, Dexter Morgan!

Melissa

I typed this comment right before you said it in your reaction. ;)

Melissa

I'm going to push back a little on Brenda being a "ride or die" if she did burn down the house. It actually seems quite dangerous and concerning to me.

M

That prayer scene just made me cry! 🥹 I binged this on Netflix a few years ago for the first time so I forgot the smaller plot points like that but wow such a good scene!