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Trafalgar class SSN (Patreon)

Published:
2019-08-21 12:17:58
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2020-06-09 18:41:05
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Trafalgar has had a history of great success and nuclear power concerns.

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Largezo

what would have happened, had the Royal Navy fielded the Trafalgar in the Falklands War (assuming that the project finished earlier) ?

Trevor Hart

I don't think it would have made much difference. Not only were the three Churchill (improved Valiant) class boats in service, Conqueror sinking the General Belgrano (USS Phoenix), all six of the very capable and new Swiftsure class boats were also in service. Hell, both Valiant class boats were still in commission then and would be for many years, we were not short of SSNs back then and more than one was in those waters.

Trevor Hart

Am I wrong in recalling that the batch 1 Trafalgars had the newer, integrated sonar system installed later in service life? Any insights into why HMS Trafalgar was a-typical for the class in having a conventional screw instead of a pump-jet propulsor and how this impacted detectability? HMS Talent was photographed in Gibraltar with what appeared to be non-acoustic detection equipment earlier this year. This is not the first time a Trafalgar or Astute class has been spotted with such equipment but it was particularly clearly photographed in this incident. I will add a link for people to view the pictures but the website is pretty bad journalistically. I knew a good few submariners during my time in Devonport and whilst this was prior to the Astute class coming into commission I found them all staggeringly professional and struggle to comprehend them being capable of missing the primary coolant leak in a manner that was discussed, rather head-scratching. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27913/royal-navy-sub-appears-in-gibraltar-equipped-with-a-wake-detection-system

Aaron Amick

The Trafalgar class was continuously modified throughout it's life, so there are exceptions EVERYWHERE. It's a difficult topic due to all the specific changes. I would be more accurate for me to say that each Trafalgar SSN was different. Because it was.

Aaron Amick

Try a different browser. It is playing on mine now.

Andrew MacDougall

30 tomahawks from one sub? can it really carry that many?

Alexander

Hey Jive, first thanks for the great content. Just one question to the Trafalger class, in my old Tom Clancy Submarine: A Guided Tour Inside a Nuclear Warship. They talk about the Type 2046 as a "clip on" towed array is that a translation error (from English to German) or how would that work? I mean for example you could not change the length, let alone deploying or retrieve it. thank you in advance and greetings from the motherland of the Wolfpack

Trevor Hart

If memory serves that class can carry exactly 30 weapons. So if she fired thirty without returning to dock and reloading, then she all Tomahawks and nothing else when she left the dock and she was empty when she returned.

14bdubz

Metal fatigue occurs when metal goes through cyclic loading (in this case changes in pressure in the primary coolant loop would be my guess). There are soooo many factors that go into fatigue, however, steel can be designed to have an infinite fatigue life if the stress in the steel is low enough. My guess is they used garbage steel or a steel that corrodes easily.

Joseph Orr

Fatigue can be a result of poor fabrication / formation of the materials themselves. They can be "preloaded" with imperfections (vacancies) that are exasperated by the pressure changes you made above, 14dubz. Metal fatigue in tactical aircraft is a serious, well known issue, and its primary cause IMHO is the material selection itself. BTW, great move Jive. Happy to support a fellow USN Vet.

Turbz

You mention the British commanding officers being very aggressive. Do you know much about their Perisher course and the types of training and style of command they promote?

Allen

Best Brief to date.

Seahour

Great, as always.

Jim Vissers

Hey Jive, what are the protrusions on the top, before the sail? Is it a kind of camera?

Chris Bourke

One minor criticism, RN Boats (and ships) are never referred to as "The HMS ..............." its just "HMS ........." otherwise an awesome video!

Christopher R.

kind of like its the River Thames not the Thames River ;)

Blair Shaw (Subhunter)

Perisher is very difficult it’s a 4 month course that starts in a simulator then moves to the real submarine if you want to see it in action submarine school on Amazon or submarine perisher on YouTube gives you the 1983 version