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Recorded: September 19, 2024

Emergency episode on Israel's wave of battery-bombings in Lebanon, rigging pagers and walkie-talkies with explosives to sow terror and target Hezbollah...

Total time: 47:05

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NYCM&AHole

Now the stories about the CIA intercepting shipments of computer systems and PROMIS are much more believable

Jimmy B

Tooze on RWN needs to happen

Welfare state

Im running a feber at the moment and my brain has decided that Hezbollah are now called Shadow Shia Money Gang

Niklas Krogerus

Isn't this pager-terrorbombing campaign going to be a liability when it's time for the US to join an Israeli war in Lebanon?

PW

Methinks Perfidious Albion be the culprit.

GC

Really appreciating this episode, Mark and John. @23:09--yep, if I read another pundit talking about how "precisely targeted" these attacks were I may actually snap.

Hilary is Pant-suited Syphilis

In any other context this would be treated as a major terrorist attack by the mainstream press. Followed up with a major air attacks across southern Lebanon killing more civilians. Anything that Hezbollah does in retaliation will of course be treated as a grave breach and “unprovoked”

Hilary is Pant-suited Syphilis

Super precise, despite the numerous videos of these randomly blowing up in hospitals, crowded markets, shops.

fw

"Precise" seems like it is now nothing but a dog whistle for "i am psychosexually obsessed with killing maiming and torturing vast amounts of people in swana because their lives are worth nothing to me, are you?". silliness aside it definitely is a dogwhistle for something. Ingroup signalling at its finest/foulest.

a clash of purple

This reminds me a lot of when the U.S. did a bunch of cyberattacks against China, Russia, and Iran, and then got hit back. This isn't going to hurt Hezbollah (quite the contrary, I imagine) but it will set a dangerous precedent that it's okay to set off bombs indiscriminately in countries you don't like.

a clash of purple

The U.S. has really put itself in an awkward position in the Middle-East. We're obliged to hate Hezbollah because the Israelis hate them, but we need Hezbollah to hold Lebanon together. Elijah Magnier talked about this years ago. We ended up in a similar situation in Iraq and Syria, where we are enemies with Iran but also needed to cooperate with them in order to combat Islamic State. I assume this will end up going in the same direction as those instances, where we just idiotically alienate everyone, including the Israelis, and are completely ostracized and lose our seat at the table.

a clash of purple

And people wonder why Americans love to shoot up their own elementary schools. It's a deeply sick, depraved society.

a clash of purple

Honestly, while Hezbollah might be compelled to hit Israel back somehow due to domestic political pressure, the best thing they could do right now is wave the bloody shirt as hard as they can; not about their own casualties necessarily, but emphasize the harm to innocent bystanders. If they can unite Lebanon against Israel as a common foe, it would make it a lot easier for them to fight.

Christopher Small

One angle of this that I find interesting is the economic fallout of this. I don't think countries like Taiwan, which have gotten by as manufacturing intermediate parts in long international supply chains, is going to be too keen on having Mossad agents using them in operations like this. It's brings a huge reputational risk, and or even boycotts as everyone in the muslim world suddenly starts linking them with all these civilian casualties. There are already stories floating around as China getting a flood of orders from people to replace their electronics, on the condition that they all be produced in country. I don't know how valid it is, but it certainly illustrates the issue. It's another example of Western satellites having their economy sabotaged in the interest of imperial games.

William

Echoing mark and others in the comments- this was a terrorist attack; this is what it looks like when you are a country doing this and you have a budget

Ander Pierce

I was running a feber last week

Borvis

The triumphalism about this attack has been sick to watch. Just gross.

A. Savagé

The one angle I believe John may have missed on the question of “why now” is Hezbollah growing wise to a threat from the pagers. Timing this attack with an offensive was surely the goal, but if the window of surprise was closing perhaps Israel chose to pursue a terror bombing

A

It's been interesting to see the western media and Western sock puppets try to gaslight us into believing this isn't utterly horrifying.

CapnPizza

Does anyone have the link to the Medium article?

JoR

Really excited you're getting Hogland back on, he's a great guest and it's been a really long time. Not directly related, but speaking of previous guests, could you get Philip Matyszak back on? He was definitely a top tier guest, and with how much he writes, I'm sure he has something new to talk about, too.

Craig Range

Did it not occur to Gary that perhaps Hezbollah was beginning to figure out the pagers had been tampered with. It would make perfect sense to use at that point.

Doug Cartel

The notion that bombing County A will cause the citizens of that country to attack their own governors is an artifact of 1920s era strategic bomber theory that was never true, so anybody believing that now is objectively insane

Sean Atkinson

it's revisionist (not in a good way) history to claim that shell companies were first used by organized crime. First of all a corporation is in and of itself a shell company, thas why it has a corporate veil. As far as " who did it first"., it was wealthy investors, in the British slave trade. So elites, not organized crime.

Sean Atkinson

When this attack does nothing to the profitability of IT hardware marketing and manufacturing organizations , we are going to be reminded of just how much our financial system is based on our unshakable faith in completely fictional assumptions of value.

Nicknimh

The Sri Lankan JVP, the Communist/Sinhala nationalist former rebel group covered in Ep. 211, just won the presidency in a free election. Any chance you could have a guest on to talk about this in an upcoming episode?

Tim Hochrein

I can only second that. I think about both all the time!

a clash of purple

When elites do it, that means it is not illegal, I guess. Which is true enough; they are the ones who get to write and interpret the laws, after all. It's rather disingenuous to say, though. I guess you could say that dismissing all rich, powerful people everywhere as nothing more than amoral gangsters with varying amounts of legal cover for their actions is oversimplifying things. I don't find that argument persuasive, but plenty of people do, I suppose.

Sean Atkinson

It is not a moral argument, it is an appeal to base instinct.