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Radio War Nerd #93—Battle of Hué (Patreon)

Published:
2017-07-18 21:07:01
Edited:
2017-07-19 11:25:43
Imported:
2026-06

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Despite being gravely wounded from a recent tour of the Fenestrelle fortress in the Italian Alps, the War Nerd talks about the big new Mark Bowden book Hué 1968, and his bad memories of the Vietnam War era as it played out on his half-Okie street in the East Area suburbs. . . .We also discuss Gen. Westmoreland, one of the two or three worst generals in American history, as well as Kubrick's defeat in trying to make art out of the battle of Hué . . . 

Hue battle map: 

Total time: 1:48:08

Direct link to this episode's mp3 here:

http://exiledonline.com/wnradio/rwn_ep_93b.mp3

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Ben Dinsmore

Great podcast but I think there is something wrong with the upload. Cuts out in mid sentence. Either that or the virus claimed the war nerd suddenly.

Ben Dinsmore

Also in your discussion you don't mention MASH when talking about impact of the Korean War on pop culture. Would be interested in your opinion on the book the movie was based on. I am conflicted about it, and think the movie was an improvement.

Ralph Feldhake

As Ben says, this is an incomplete edit - we lose you mid-sentence as John's discussing Full Metal Jacket. Great stuff, however.

radiowarnerd

Yeah something buggy going on with the episode, sorry about this everyone. Tried re-uploading complete tested audio file and it went to zero, waiting to hear back from patreon still. Meantime, we're going to repost this episode in full, hopefully that'll work. Our apologies for the mess-up here. There's about 20 more minutes to the show that got cut off.

radiowarnerd

Now we can't even do a new repost with the entire audio, something is wrong with Patreon. Bear with us until we find out what's wrong and can fix this.

radiowarnerd

Seems to be working now, note from Patreon support said they fixed whatever was bugging

Ryan McCarthy

It's still not working for me. It doesn't start at all. I've deleted and redownloaded a bunch of times.

Dave Foley

This is how you give war nerds blue balls, John!

realBriannaWu

Working for me! Looks like they fixed it.

Avery

I could not get this episode from the app either. I think Patreon's app has some issue with its sound player. But I listened via the RSS feed. Mark really didn't want to talk about the book, lol.

Brian

I don't agree that the first chapter is patronizing to Che Thi Mung. When the author says that she 'knew nothing of the global clash of ideas', I didn't interpret this as the author suggesting her actions and beliefs came from a place of ignorance. My impression was that he was commenting on how the war was a very personal matter for her, as opposed to this 'global clash of ideas'. He almost immediately goes on to say that her family and most of her community had anti-saigon political views, had participated in the struggle against the French, and that she had family members who were imprisoned and killed by the Saigon regime. And later he talks about how she was tortured by the Saigon regime, as you mentioned. I felt like this juxtaposition was intended to demonstrate how much her perspective on the war differed from the American perspective, not that it was suggesting that she was naive in some way. I felt the 'With all the passion of youth, she hated the Saigon regime' was not patronizing for this same reason. Its hard for me to imagine that a reader could finish the first chapter thinking Che Thi Mung was naive or ignorant and not that her motivations weren't totally justified. Its interesting to me that we had such different impressions of the first chapter. I read it without knowing the author or his previous work, so maybe that's why.

Tupac Chopra

Mark, somewhere in the beginning of the podcast you mention some links forwarded to you by a subscriber named Aditi V. (?) about the 1962 Indo-Chinese war. Could you post them here? I've known some Gurkhas by way of friends and family and I can't imagine them dropping dead from fatigue... but there you are.

radiowarnerd

You might be right Brian. It just struck me that he is better at doing Somalis than Vietnamese.