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Radio War Nerd EP #413 — World of Wars: Future Border Wars, Assab to Essequibo + Gaza Slaughter (Patreon)

Published:
2023-12-09 17:47:49
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2023-12-10 01:30:32
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Recorded: December 7, 2023

Illegally changing borders by force got its post-Cold War start with NATO's war on rump Yugoslavia, but it's really started to accelerate in the last decade with Russia's wars on Ukraine, the US affirming Israel's illegal annexations in Golan and East Jerusalem, and now Ethiopia and Venezuela are looking to wet their expansionist beaks in Assab and Essequibo respectively...we also discuss a bombing slaughter in Nigeria, and the latest in Israel's kinetic & propaganda wars on Gaza...

Total time: 1:13:01

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*MAPS

*Port Assab, Eritrea

*Essequibo, Guyana

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LPO Crane Jefferson

Was a little disappointed to hear the claims of mass rape against Hamas, but not include the horrific rape that the IDF perpertrates against women and the sexual violence of stripping Palestinian men to parade around in the streets that we are seeing. I'm sure it's been said, but it should be talked about in the same breadth.

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Stockholm syndrome isn’t real

Jess

The rape claims I've seen didn't really have to do with the actions of the Palestinians during the attack in Israel but were given as a reason that the ceasefire broke down--Hamas was offering to free older male hostages because they literally couldn't stop raping the young women (or, more charitably, they could stop for a second but they didn't want anyone to know what they had done to the women). Israel wouldn't stand for this and had no alternative but to go back in. I have no idea about the truth of that accusation but Israel always wanted to proceed in Gaza, and "our opponents are such savages that they would rather die than stop committing rapes" is better PR than "we were always going to go back in there to kill them kids."

Jaime Christley

There was a joke that Kissinger probably stole from somebody - hell, I may have heard it on RWN - that “the fighting in academia is so vicious because the stakes are so small”.

Matelda

That claim was completely made up by a US spokesperson who admitted it, and IDF got upset about it. Everyone sensical I've heard says the hostages left are the soldiers, some female, and that's why Hamas wanted different terms for them.

Matelda

Obviously I don't think any army or people is too moral for rape but I'll be more likely to believe Hamas used organized mass rape as a pre-planned strategy when someone tells me how it would serve any strategic purpose. You certainly can't believe they were as gruesome as possible on purpose and also that they intentionally try to cultivate western sympathy with "human shields," intentional martyrdom of their own civilians, and/or "Pallywood." Those strategies are mutually exclusive. And if the whole thing was just unstrategic revenge, why take hostages, something that was undeniably pre-planned, and why keep them alive and let them go instead of torture them to death?

Jess

Wait, the IDF was upset about the claim? What's their story, then? It would make sense to give back the older men first, as they would be more likely to die in custody and then they're worth nothing. It sounds awful but I'm not even sure if Israel wants the rest of the hostages back, they might be worth more to the government dead than alive (plus the loud claims of sexual violence always have that "she's been run through, she's no good to us anymore" vibe when you're dealing with an ethnostate).

PostmasterFenian

Fun Fact the "Excallibur 155mm" shell runs around 70-100k a piece. You could literally buy 100 152mm dummy shells for the same price.

Matelda

I think IDF was upset because in Israel they don't want to stoke domestic outrage about the hostages still being missing. In the US, pro-Israel rhetoric is all about vulnerability, but in Israel it seems like the voters were sold a story of strength that the government is panicking to reassert.

Mairin Mead

Stockholm syndrome doesn't exist, it's pop psychology.

Blorst of times

Your characterizations of Vegas and the surrounding suburbs are spot on (when I lived there the police in Henderson murdered an ice cream man during a traffic stop). I barely got out of there alive and am actually kind of surprised there are not more mass shootings there. Fucking grim.

Red Herring McGuffin

Mark please stop talking about Stockholm syndrome like it's a real thing. The Swedish police made it up because they needed a way to discredit the hostages of the Norrmalmstorg robbery, as they refused to testify against their former captors after being released, and began raising funds for their defence. Rather than accept the fact that they were incompetent, and showed clear disregard for the safety of the hostages, the police enlisted the "expertise" of a psychiatrist whom they were on such friendly terms with that he was known as the Police Doctor, and he concocted the misogynistic theory of Stockholm syndrome. It is not taken seriously in academic or medical circles, it does not appear in the DSM, and near the only people diagnosing it are the media, and the police.

David Ackerman

That was depressing as fuck. Thanks a lot.

CR

Why hasn't Ethiopia pursued annexation of Somalia, or at least Somaliland? That would create a much bigger coastline along the Gulf of Aden and the Indian Ocean. Are the Somalilanders protected, or are they considered too much trouble?

triplevalaska

I got two insights from my life to a couple things said. I have an uncle who was a miltary advisor for 5years to the UAE he had told me total incompetence from top to bottom in their miltary. Also my friends who's from Venezuelaen, dad worked as a engineer for the state oil company I asked him about the biggest reserves in world claim, he said its not true, basically you can say whatever but until it's verified usually by the banking system because you taking loans against it, and since theirs a money crunch I'm assuming they haven't its just not true

JoR

Regarding your conversation on Vegas, I guess it's a fitting home for the Raiders.

Jimothy Realname

Completely off-topic, but I just finished Book of the New Sun and holy shit it's good. Now rereading it.

Jason Thompson

Everyone’s saying “Stockholm Syndrome doesn’t exist,” but it feels to me like it probably exists, even if the case it was named after is BS. People who are scared of those who have power over them start to tell themselves lies and want to kiss up to those in power, and then internalize the beliefs of those in power. Look how the bullied sometimes cling to the hope that bullies are, or could become, their friends. And you could say it exists up to the governmental scale. “Manufacturing consent” and all. So idk if people are just pedantically dissing the name Stockholm or what, but if they are saying this behavior isn’t human nature they are wroooong

Jaime Christley

I had to pause the episode and check my notes from the 2016 Jerusalem Film Festival because there was a government official who got to take the stage for a few moments before the opening night film (Almodovar's JULIETA), and she was booed off by the crowd of some 500-1000 attendees. It was explained to me that she was Miri Regev, then Israel's Minister of Culture and Sport, an avowed racist who, among other classy details, called Sudanese refugees "cancer". A few years ago she was moved over to heading up Transport and Road Safety for the same government, which is very funny because there's a story that came out in September of this year that she ordered her driver to run over one of Yoav Gallant's security guards. Anyway, not the same lady, but interesting and unsurprising how Netanyahu has empowered so many people in his government, as well as his media apparatus, to behave like a drunken racist singing his way home at 2 in the morning.

Red Herring McGuffin

It's one thing to behave in such a way as to keep yourself in the good graces of your captors, it's entirely another to continue in that fashion after being released. It isn't human behaviour to develop and maintain positive feeling towards someone holding you captive unless you have very good reasons to do so, like the police who're meant to "save" you nearly getting you killed on multiple occasions, and your captor(s) actually is deserving of sympathy.

Jason Thompson

I recognize the problems with the original Stockholm case. And I can’t think of any other obvious situation where people were literally held captive and started to identify with their captors (unless… Patty Hearst?). But I think beyond being literally held captive it describes a common human behavior of wanting desperately to please and pander to people who are tormenting you, to the point that, maybe, you internalize their beliefs.

Red Herring McGuffin

' I can’t think of any other obvious situation where people were literally held captive and started to identify with their captors ... But it describes a common human behaviour' what?

Jason Thompson

You’ve never seen a bullied kid who thinks the bullies are really their friends, and is pathetically desperate to befriend them and do what will make them happy?

Jason Thompson

Or abused spouses who think it’s their own fault and/or if they just do the right thing their partner will stop being a monster? To me “Stockholm Syndrome” describes the ability of socially “trapped” people to participate in their own oppression

Mark Ames

That's hilarious about the UAE, their strength should be in bribery, investments & arms deals. They didn't seem to be much good in the Yemen war except when it came to running torture camps and imposing artificial famine on children. As for Venezuela's oil reserves, yeah the whole information space in the oil industry is a giant numbers racket, as a friend of mine who's been deeply into energy politics for decades keeps harping on about.

JoR

I agree with you, Jason. Even if the "syndrome" itself may not be what the dictionary says it is, I can absolutely believe in the general concept.

JoR

I would think it's the 2nd reason more then anything.

Mark Ames

Those types are legion now, hard to keep track

Watermane

"Stockholm Syndrome" 😂😂 also, a regular dose of Klonopin, let's say 0,5mg, won't have you drooling. Just calmer, less anxious. But not chummy with your captors. This was obviously another desperate "israeli" lie.

Watermane

It's as real as Israel

Red Herring McGuffin

Sure children and spouses subject to routine abuse for months and years on end can be gaslit into blaming themselves. I just don't think it's a comparable experience to being held as a hostage. I do like that you feel the need to submit your own shittier definition. Poppsych fans aren't dodging the deeply unserious people accusations.

Hans Anders

I think that the Guyana question is mostly escalating because the oil extraction is starting now. If you’re not that active on a dispute over an area with 100.000 inhabitants that’s one thing. But if you’re not pressing it when there’s billions of dollars of oil money at stake, then you just forfeit the credibility of your claim.

Demented Avenger

Why does your description of how the Gulf states regard the Saudis remind me of how the 18th century European powers regarded the Habsburgs?

Damnboooi

Looking forward to the Ukraine update. I’ve tried to not follow the coverage too closely to not get Ukraine brain but recent developments have been insane. From the WaPo article. “The campaign’s inconclusive and discouraging early months pose sobering questions for Kyiv’s Western backers about the future, as Zelensky — supported by an overwhelming majority of Ukrainians — vows to fight until Ukraine restores the borders established in its 1991 independence from the Soviet Union. “That’s going to take years and a lot of blood,” a British security official said, if it’s even possible. “Is Ukraine up for that? What are the manpower implications? The economic implications? Implications for Western support?”” Insert the Nic Cage ‘you don’t say’ meme here

Patrick Fitzgerald

John, just a note to say how much I enjoyed Erdogan Pizza. I had no idea how dire some of those moves were for you and Katherine. I should have been paying attention. And for all the pathos, it's never not funny! Inspired me to pick up the Illiad, too. Merry Xmas to you guys.