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Joseph 29 days ago

Great topic

I guess it’s safe to post pictures of mine now

But I’m not gonna 😂

Anyway….sooo
So……. My Colt M4 has a 16” barrel

I already have a BCM 11.”5 and a BCM recce 16”. A FN M16A4 anc an AUG.

What do you guys think 🤔
Leave this Colt 16”?
Or
Make it a 14.5” for attaching a proper bayonet and being like the rifle I served with

or a 10.3” making it a mk18 mod 0

My BCM 11.5”

The recce 16”

16” barrel are going to be a dime a dozen

People gonna be getting rid of them in surplus 😂

I do actually like a 16” AR though

They are actually amazing rifles

Honestly don’t get the 14.5” unless it’s on a old M4

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TNSheep 29 days ago

14 is just.. not good

16 is as short as you wanna go.

If you want it for cqb only, then good.

but..
if you’re in that position, you already done fucked up.

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Joseph 29 days ago

Sheep 16” is a great length

Suppressors is the biggest argument for going shorter.

16” capability it better than 10.3” but now we have a 20” gun when you add a 6” suppressor

They are now making low back pressure cans that are 3”-4” combine that with a 14.5” barrel and now we are just over 18”

Bullpups really solve a lot of these problems

The military really should Adopt something like the tevor, AUG,desert tech MDR

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Buff Orpington 29 days ago

That’s where I’m at @TNSheep. At this point I’ve invested into platforms at 16-18 inches, no pressing need to upgrade. All work fine. Those funds at least in my situation are being put toward ammo for practice and other emergency prep (dry goods, water, etc)

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Bravo 29 days ago

I love 16-18 inch ARs. I figured out that 12.5 is about as long as I can get (+can) while reasonably maneuvering in a car or indoors. So I went as long as I could while meeting those metrics.

Being semi-rural in the mountains most of my shots are 500 yards max. 300 yards is the more typical long range. I struggle to shoot < 3 MOA at 100 yards anyways and don’t have a lot of time to practice those longer shots.

Shorter rifles seem to make sense to me. If you live further out in the sticks and get gud then I’d have a 18” as well as I’ve loved the shoot ability of my 16” in the past.

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Joseph 29 days ago

The best barrel length for Urban is actually 14.5”/16”

Gotta think urban actually has long distances

Huge wide open spaces, no trees. Concrete
Building to building
Long lots and roads

Targets behind cover peaking long distance

Velocity for barriers such as stucco walls and brick

The woods is actually where you can get away with shorter but it’s not even necessary

The only practical use for a SBR
CQB, which is dumb and it can be avoided

Vehicle operations which honestly isn’t necessary either

SBR’s are a larp

I have one

Only good for a silencer

But even then dumb idea

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I love my 11.5 I’m guilty
But my 16” and AUG are better guns

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Buff Orpington 28 days ago

Here in the northeast, short in the woods is indeed a benefit. It’s thick out there with max visibility ranging from 50-100 yards. So while I spend all this time practicing further out, in the last 10 years of hunting, max shot on a deer was at 100 yards.

Heck, I took this year’s doe with a Mosin at 15 yards

Hunting ≠ tactical style shooting. But it is true that woods in the northeast are short distance, benefitting from max maneuverability in thick brush

Out west and urban is a different story, longer shots, less crap in the way

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Bravo 28 days ago

Yea woods and mountains where I am at too. 👍

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Joseph 28 days ago

South east. Trees everywhere
However that’s only applicable in ROL. In WROL, there’s a lot more range to deal with, because you are no longer limited on places to shoot: everywhere applicable now

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Squid556 17 hours ago

Reposting here so it gets seen.

One of the lightest LPVO arrangements I’m aware of. Leupold freedom 1-4 in an Aero precision lightweight 1” mount. Right at 3/4 of a pound. Had $200 in the optic, $50 in the mount.