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Derya RIA VR60 Shotgun

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Scout154

I have been wanting one for awhile now

Scout154

I got the M3000 and have been loving that ! I use it for duty!

David Gaines

Love it for the second cool but I’d prolly never buy one. Just listened to your Savage 99 review. I really enjoyed listening to you talk about your dad. I hope one day my kids say the same things about me.

Fred

Nutn, I think "Eat Shit Commies" patches would sell great at the merch store!

David Elkins

Doesn’t really fit my needs or current wants except....it does piss the gun grabbers off and they are winning right now.

Brad Fegan

Me likey a lot. I picked me up a 12 gauge recently. It s a Black Aces Pro Series S Max. Haven't been able to shoot it yet. I am also wearing a Citizen. Its a Citizen Eco-Drive Men's Satellite Wave.

Plumber Angelo

Second cool for sure! My pops has the mossberg 930 and that thing can put some serious lead down range. Semi auto shotguns are just cool man. Great and interesting review Nutn!

Cainnech

This is exactly right!

Seth

How did it is run with Slugs?

Trustful Marksman

Never thought I'd hear Nutnfancy tell me to "..be naughty." Not sure how I feel about it.

Pedro

Never thought I’d see the day you liked the ar style shotguns. They always seemed fly by night to me

Pedro

Good question

Mike Maddox

Damn right eat shit you commie bastards!

Andrettski

I got the Panzer Pro about 3-4 years ago and everyone who shoots it comes away with huge grins. It's just heavy as all get out because it's almost 100% metal. Maybe someone will make a polymer handguard for it. I put a "Kick-eez" recoil pad with a Beartooth foam cheek pad on it(looks like crap) but way more comfortable cause I'm running 1325-1600 FPS buck and or slugs through it but man is it DEVASTATING.

Nathan Simms aka Darkpriest

Third'd on this comment. Will buy patches (and hats) if they come in store. -- Sincerely someone who has bought a LOT of shit from you . :D

Trevor K

I just posted a week ago in the community i got a super shotgun. I guess i should have waited. every thing said in the video is true it just confirms it was a good buy TNP approved. the gun i have is an AXL-47(no one knows this gun even exists) its a turk gun based on an ak/ar not the remington 1100/ar like most of these shotguns. but dang its heavy!!!

James R

Funny thing is I bought this over a year ago for precisely that saying F U to the commies and I actually really like it it’s bad A

Moe Mansour

In Myanmar 100s are being killed indiscriminately by their military. The citizens have posted videos saying they'd fight back if they had guns. I wonder what they'd have to say to anyone thinking of giving up their guns. Unfortunately, we're almost there in Canada. Massive bans about to pass. Even airsoft guns will be registered weapons.

Jerome J

It’s a good looking shotgun. Will you buy it? I’ve been on the lookout for a Stoeger.

J Ram

Not sure you get many comments on your videography, but you and Sean in the desert at sunrise (sun set?) at 14:40 with that orange haze/lighting against the gray of the sky and the mountains and the black of that AR12....magnificent sir! That's a portrait of Freedom right there!

whiskey papa

Daddy like. I'll have one of these soon. :)

TechNeck

these shotguns have been branded a lot of different names...in canada they were "alpha arms SA15's". I had one for a good while,used it for three gun. These things can dish out for thousands of rounds no issue... i put over 1500 rounds through mine in a season, soldit, next owner was supper happy running it. I shots mostly buckshot and slugs. Only issue was cheap birdshot. they just became prohib in canada on may 1st last year as a "ar15 variant " .

Kelly McClellan

I just looked sportsmen’s warehouse has them in stock as I write this. I just purchased a pistol so my gun budget for the month is spent. I’m glad you found a good one!

Patrick Richards

Kinda cool until I start really thinking about it. If I’m going to implement a shotgun it’ll be a tube fed. Most likely pump or maybe a reliable semi auto tube fed. Hard to beat a solid pump. Smaller package,easier to move around or put places, and reliable. To carry the large mags just doesn’t make sense to me. A guy I work with got a typhoon, it’s really nice feeling when handling it but he said it won’t cycle medium/light loads and when he showed me the mags I was surprised at how large they were. Not to mention there were some things about it that seemed a bit gimmicky.

The Nutnfancy Project

Wow, great deal on that VR60. Thanks for your enthusiasm for the GRV; I keep crankin' them out b. you dudes like them!

The Nutnfancy Project

Unbelievable and I totally agree on your Myanmar take. We are going to be like Canada soon here in US thanks to the commies. It's a disease.

The Nutnfancy Project

Thank you! I did like how that shot turned out. It's prophetic I think...unfortunately. Thanks for being here J Ram.

The Nutnfancy Project

Good feedback on the gun and indeed it is marketed under several diff banners. Good to know it's durable. Don't give yours up if you can, but you probly have that damn registration.

The Nutnfancy Project

Smaller package, easier to move around or put places, and reliable. To carry the large mags just doesn’t make sense to me." Yep, I totally agree. I try to make that point in all my large magazine format shotgun reviews; the M1923 shotgun mags alone weigh 11.5 oz empty! I think for point or APC vehicle defense they would be a good choice. I don't think you'll see me running around with LBE loaded with these things. I'd need a wheel barrow.

Moe Mansour

I'm up in Canada too. Sad that we've banned so many great firearms. Let's hope C-21 doesn't pass. I can't fathom registering a paintball gun.

Andrew Helsel

I came here to post that link too for Palmetto selling it in today's email ad from them. Awesome review. Still wondering what you think about the KS-7 - got mine and have only shot subsonic 00 buckshot with soft rubber pad, and it kicks like a clydesdale...

Brian Cole

There's a good chance that Biden admin will reclassify this as a destructive device requiring owners to go the NFA route, pay $200 tax stamp, and place the shotgun in the custody of a class 3 dealer until the approval goes through. This has already been done by Loyd Benson, treasury secretary under Clinton, when he reclassified the Street Sweeper 12 GA, USAS-12 and SPAS-12 as destructive devices. I would be prepared for this to happen before I made a decision to buy.

Adam Boyd

That's the gun my son should have bought in January. He got one from Charles Dailey that is complete 💩! The magazine it came with would not seat correctly. It jammed so much it couldn't even serve as a range toy. He sent in in for repairs, got it back 2 months later and it still didn't work. It has been back in the shop for another 2 months. No idea when it will come back or if it will work this time. Should've went with RIA.

Scott Reichard

I thought about buying the semi auto remington birds head shotgun. Tac 14 if I remember correctly.. with the commie flu and the socialist government repeal of freedom and the constitution supplies are tight. I dont have any need for one.. but knowing it scares the lefties I want one. For home defense the non stocked shotgun would be functional to go thru your home, and the limited ammo capacity not a huge issue. A glock 19 or 1911 would be a better choice, but in that case I could see a use. The people that think shot shells are safer around non target people dont really understand the physics behind a shotgun at super short distances. The spread of # 2 shot at 15 feet ( inside home distances) is almost nothing. Keeping a shotgun loaded is quite the skill. In a defense situation you need to be trained to a level to keep topping up the shotgun. And its heavy / bulky ammo. I shoot sporting clays wearing a shooting vest and one round is 50 shells plus a few redo shots if ths throwers have issues. I often run two rounds at the same time. I essentially shoot twice the rounds at each station. I have a really bad knee and require a golf kart to get around the course. I cant imagine trying to carry 120 shells in my vest and walk the course. So any shotgun your thinking of using for defense or sport shooting is going to have this issue. 4 x 30 round ar / 5.56 mags is easily carried. Try that with your ar style 12 guage shotgun and see how that works out. I am only discussing the practical aspect here. If you want to own and shoot a ar style shotgun .. go for it. I have no complaint that anyone else should own whatever they want. If your happy with ccw of a ruger super blackhawk enjoy.. i am old enough to know that I dont need to tell others what to do..

Plumber Angelo

You make a lot of good points. Shotgun systems are heavy as hell and rounds limited! I remember Nutnfancys videos on shotgun systems and it definitely hit the nail on the head as usual. But don’t forget, all you need is a double barrelled shot gun and fire off both barrels in the air! That’s the pinnacle of home defence hahahahah.

Scott Reichard

Plumber. I am an instructor and teach competitive shooting. But i am not a defensive gun expert. I see very little need or use for a shotgun , especially a semi auto thats huge and heavy. Nutn seems to like this shotgun. But it puts all the size and weight priority backwards. If someone wants one.. god bless and enjoy. I just carry a 45 cal shield or 10mm 1911 every day. They are both very portable and easy to move with and have good capacity.. in my mind for a home defense gun a 5.56 AR in a m4 config.. light weight .. with a small light is almost impossible to out perform. Unless your concerned with the ability to clear rooms and go around corners. Then a handgun carried at low ready with gun light is hard to top. A 1911 in 45 or 10mm is more my speed than 9mm... a glock 20 in ten mm or glock 31 in 357 sig works for me.

Josh P.

Thanks for the review Nutn.

David Threadgold

I am watching it now I was wondering why the one at my hardware store looked a little different as far as the stock and fore-grip

mike stevens

Thanks for the heads up Nutn. For those in the Midwest Dunham's has these currently for $450 after rebate.

Dawson Rabb

Called gunnies today, they have 2 as of 5pm. Price is 499.

Dawson Rabb

For you CA folks, gunnies won't ship here btw. Can't blame them either.

TechNeck

yeah no doubt... because its not registering paintball or airsoft.. its a prohibited weapons charge for even possing it if it looks like a real gun, or a prohibited gun (ak Ar15 etc) infact its so ridiculous, if you pellet gun looks like a real firearm its classified as a prohibited device. so if you get a sub 500ft/s ruger air hawk.. it would be banned, as it looks identical to the 500+ ft/second ruger air hawk that is classified as a firearm. With the new charges associated with a prohibited device, that's a minimum 3 years in jail... regardless if they are a minor or adult.

Blizzak454

Awww man, PFIDude and PFIDad, names I haven't heard in a while. What ever happened to them?

Eric

I went into my local outdoor store, here in MN we have Fleet Farm, sportsmans warehouse, or independent gun stores. It's really depressing. I call them gun guyzombies, guys, just walking around, sifting through the scraps. It's amazing how bad things can get in just a few years. I walked into a gun store and just wanted to be tempted by something. (The Sig P365 was tempting, i just don't need another 9mm.) I definitely won't forget this time if/when (hopefully when) things get better.

JoQuin

Wondering if the benelli m4 is worth it at this point.... really want a benelli m4 as my first semi auto shotgun tho!

Tacticaldoodle

I think a lot more than just that would be caught up that we already have, too. Unfortunately, I don't think this will increase in value like the Old SPAS.... to bad Franchi gave up the ghost. I think their other Spas would be awesome to have back in the market.

Tacticaldoodle

These seem to be the usual for all these funky shotguns. I'm sure some can be tuned or made reliable manually (but I'd go for a saiga 12g first, both for collectability and resale) but they all strike me as commercial-market guns meant to appeal to second-world countries that disallow centerfire AR pattern carbines. I'm not even sure where each one comes from, but the styling and designs, at the pricepoints given, just seem to back that up. The KSG and the Tavor are probably my current faves, and even then I'd do a lot of practice before putting too much trust in it.

Tacticaldoodle

They are great for home defense if you're just going for a little compact shotgun.... but the thing no one seems to mention is the absolute lack of understanding you'll face from L.E. if they see it. There was that case back east (PA?) where a guy got a ticket, but stupidly admitted he was carrying firearms in his trunk (gotta do the "right thing" and make the cop comfy, I guess?) and the cop arrested him for having a "sawed off shotgun" and pushed him into some court issue. I think he was passing through the state, but they tried getting him under state law or something. It's been a while since I saw, but it always comes to mind with these. AR pistols are super common, at least, so less of a worry for braces.

David Threadgold

My first brand new benelli I bought when I moved to North Dakota was m4 and the thing was a lemon sent it back to them they sent it back saying it worked fine and my buddy who was a guide for geese said he buy it two days lateral he came over laughing and said the barrel flew off while shooting a goose and found the weld at the screw was broken off and that is why I had problems with it. He still owns and loves Benelli I personally will never buy another do to shitty customer care.he tried to get warranty but i can’t remember what happened I think he trashed it. IMO they make great guns but I am pissed still

David Threadgold

I must say I forgot to tell you guys that my friend tried to get me to buy the better Benelli at that time but it cost a lot more it would take 3.5 inch shell’s and up here you need that for big geese and cranes

Tacticaldoodle

Mostly for cheap fun, or if defensive, for those people who are able to get shotgun ammo easily. Maybe those who are really paranoid of overpenetration, but I don't know why 12 gauge is somehow able to subdue zombies without punching through paperboard and drywall. Pistols are compact and quick, but I'd rather not leave it as option #1 to the untrained or adrenaline-crippled in the family. I always try to keep the Mrs. near a carbine if she's somewhere alone, because it's much easier to operate under pressure for her.

Tacticaldoodle

I've been hoping it would have a resurgance in guys buying up funky blackpowder and weird cartridges left over. If only, we'd have guys shooting swiss K31's and .45 long like it's some b movie.

Phake A'Count

Everyone to the left of Ted Nugent is a communist. Got it. Anyway, I don't have guns anymore. I have gun-shaped paperweights with no ammunition. $35 for FMJ 9mm! NFW. Can't see adding to the collection out of spite.

The Nutnfancy Project

I do like you to buy from them if you can. Wyatt is the reason I get access to these.

The Nutnfancy Project

Well if you don't see them here in Patreon (and you won't) that says a lot. True supporters of my work are willing to spend a couple of bucks to keep this thing going. PFIDude has never been here..ever. He kind of lost interest in helping me when he couldn't make money off of me. Truth.

The Nutnfancy Project

Too expensive, many are just as good even better. The Mossberg 930/935 series and Stoeger M3000, all reviewed here, come to mind.

The Nutnfancy Project

I do not doubt they have bad cust. svc. They remind me of H&K: they think they're guns are above reproach and it crappy customer support. As I've mentioned: I sold all my Benellis a long time ago. It they don't cycle low base it just won't work for me.

Scott Reichard

Think safety slugs for revolvers or auto pistols in an apartment. Good choice for that application.

David Threadgold

I totally agree with above about price and even my friend quite shooting benelli a year ago

Plumber Angelo

Damn Nutnfancy, that’s an absolute shame to hear. I always liked Pfidude, but it is what it is. At least you got an army of dudes willing to support the project directly!

Plumber Angelo

Couldn’t agree more doodle. While I’m very comfortable with my Glock 30sf (1500ish rounds practiced), the keltec su-16 is the gun for my lady should things go bump in the night. Hard to beat that 5ish pounds! Glock 30sf on my side of the bed, su-16 on hers!

Scott Reichard

Doodle. The k31 seems like a great collector. What is the ammo cost and availability if you know

Scott Reichard

Buy from wyatt if you can. I have called them several times and they had no ability to get what I wanted. But I will keep trying. Let them know I was trying to support them on behalf of nutnfancy. And they appreciate it. So please try to buy from them if you can to support the content here.

Sheepdog

"Clown world of the left". Perfect description.

CincinnatiDan (Ohio)

Great review Nut’n. And it looks like Shaun found a way to fit those mags in his LBE.

Lon N

I too have a bitter Charles Dailey experience, a new 20 gauge pump I purchased for a nephew. A year of hunting and shooting on the junior trap team for a season and the CD pump had a broken bolt and no customer service. I suspect the bolt was made of silver panted Velveeta cheese - I did find a couple gentlemen making replacement bolts out of real steel, but for the price the nephew got a very nice used 12 gauge Wingmaster instead.

BVeck

We love our M4. But Nutn is right that there are wayyyyyy less expensive options. And a heads up that the M4 has a lot of trouble running low brass birdshot.

Pedro

Joaquin look at franchi. They are under the benelli beretta umbrella but cheaper then benelli, more so then stoger. The franchi uses the stoger design but with way higher fit and finish. My affinity 3.5 fires low base handicapped loads just fine in 3 gun

Ricky Kurtz

Hey LTC, Purchase the drum, for the VR60 it works great. I’ve owned a VR60 for a year and enjoy it very much. Love my Benelli M4 another proven shotgun. Also my Mossberg 590A1 in all the different length. If semi-auto shotgun and rifles in some states become not legal to own, then there will be a run a good pump and lever action firearms. FYI - there is a lever action shotgun, if I remember correctly you did review it. I left handle on work on. Also you can pic 1.25 sling keeper so you can put a military leather 1.25” sling or nylon sling. I have equipped mine with these items along with a white light. Also mounted a vertical grip on mine. It works for me Ricky from IBM, Ret

Ricky Kurtz

Hey LTC it the state of Florida where I live our Governor is a supporter of the 2nd Amendment and there are laws in place which protect our right to own and carry a firearm regardless of what DC does. The power is with the states and if the states tell DC to stick it that’s it. It the states have their house in order where the do not need a anything from DC then your OK. Like having a balanced budget. Here is Florida we have a surplus of $8 Billion, yes $8 Billion. Our Governor has told DC by the states actions to stick it !!!. Most of the states in the south support the 2nd and many are 2nd Amendment sanctuaries and several have constitutional carry laws. These states almost always have Republicans as Governors. Ricky from IBM, Ret

Tacticaldoodle

Florida is one of the few states doin' pretty well lately. It's good to see!

Allen gray

PSA has them on 8/4/21 for 329 😳😳🙌🏻🙌🏻

Allen gray

On the way for 356 shipped!!