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KelTec KS7: Best Shotgun You Shouldn't Buy (Patreon)

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2021-06-12 05:09:24
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KelTec KS7

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Nathan P Hubsch

Uploading reviews at midnight, I swear this guy never sleeps.

Lon N

No kidding.

Joe Mack

He's on mountain time

Todd Strelka

Wow. Thanks for the review. I wouldn't buy the KS7. I really enjoyed shooting your KSG a few years ago. It was quirky, but fun to shoot.

Nathan P Hubsch

I'm sticking with the FN SLP that gun is awesome. I've been wondering about the Origin 12, think it had gas issues.

Kevin Massey

I just bought one!!!!!!! and its being shipped - I hope its reliable. IF not ill have to send it back and I am in Canada so that makes it even more of a headache. But I was thinking to put a rail on the top even though I like the carry handle so ill be keeping it! TD is right! why spend more money,

Lon N

Assuming a functional KS7 (visit Keltec's secret web page and order "Chad's Tube-o-Lube") it would make a decent truck gun...after adding some aftermarket mlock doo-dad. Just where do you hang a light for home defense?

Schmuckatelli

Thanks for the KS7 review. I really want to love it (and the KSG) but KelTec worries me sometimes. My Sub2K has been good to me so far, but as mentioned in this GRV, I am already looking for after market solutions (MCARBO bolt tube cover). Nice to know that KT will tune it. Not ideal, but at least there is a path to reliability (albeit, a costly one). And let's face it...no firearms are being sold dirt cheap since the present administration is trying to take them all away. #molonlabe

Eschebone

Disappointing results, but a great review nonetheless. Much appreciated, as always!

Boone Mill Farm

This would be fun as a Fudd Dudd. Take her to a skeet range and listen to the O/U duds comments. Might be worth the price of admission. Thanks for the time and effort you put into this. And thank you Doodle too.

The Nutnfancy Project

"I'm sticking with the FN SLP that gun is awesome" Great choice, competition proven. PS I got gas issues too.

The Nutnfancy Project

I think if tuned by KT it will be great. Plan on sending it back. Test it with slug, buck, and birdshot. Hope it's good for ya.

Matt W Plank

C’mon Winston, damnit!😂🤣😂🤣Love it!

Andrew Stutzman

Thanks for the reviews Nutn! Love the longer videos. Hope you get to do "Soldier Boy" again one day too.

Nathan P Hubsch

Hey Nutn, I don't think you've ever reviewed a drone. I'm looking for a good value drone to scout areas and look for animals to potentially hunt as a POU.

Jason Boyles

I'll keep my Winny 1300 thanks. Lol

RowdyRon

Really loved this one. I just put a brace on my Shockwave. If the Keltec stuff worked I'd probably by one of those instead. Good stuff though, thanks Nutn.

DRS

Appreciate the honest, critical, in depth review from everyone at TNP

Charles Steimle

Budget GRV suggestion. How about looking at the Stevenson or titan 12 gauge. Both sub $300 pumps. My father in law just got a Stevenson No rounds thru yet. I think a review similar to the every man review ( marlin60) would be valuable to us poor dudes. Love what you do. Keep em coming!!!

Racing Psychosis

Not much of a surprise there. There are some companies that are on my "never buy from" list. Keltec is one of those companies. So....it's battering your thumb TD, just get your dremel out, its a Keltec, no one will know the difference.

Red dog 1

Nutn what’s the coin on table? I have a gieselle flat trigger and love it

Robert

Thanks for the review. Your thoughts on Kel-tec match mine. I have owned a couple of Kel-tecs. Today, I own zero. Their designs are awesome; they're one of the only gunmakers really innovating, but where they consistently fall short is execution. It's not until a company like Ruger rips off their designs and produces it in quantity with consistent quality that you get a bestseller.

Jake Etzler

Pretty disappointed that it did so poorly. I personally enjoy Kel Tec firearms and had a lot of high hopes for this one. Being a lefty and having something that out of the box is as ambi as can be was a perfect solution. Great review as always Nutn, I appreciate the time you guys put into all of your reviews. Probably still going to buy the KS7 and see if I have the same issues, I can deal with the quirks if it does.

small axe

I don't know where you live, but as I understand it here in Arizona you're not allowed to use a drone to look for animals while you are engaged in a hunt. I think you can get away with it while you're out scouting before your hunt because who's to say what you're looking at, but if it's during your hunt and you've got a tag and a gun I think it's illegal. You may want to check your local hunting regulations before you spend the money on a drone.

Gilbert Cuzdey Jr

I'll just stick with my 590 mariner. Although to be fair it did have an issue. The last shell would get stuck in the tube....turns out it was the shell interrupted (I think that's what it's called.) It was supposed to hold the shell back so it would only feed one at a time but the end was too sharp. I polished it with a ceramic stone and it works fine now.

Nathan P Hubsch

Of course, leave it to the government to ruin fun. I'm planning on doing a hog hunt in Texas and it looks like they allow it with an Aerial Management Permit and Land Owner Authorization permit.

Carl Bailey

Every time I see something that looks cool from Kel Tec I think "I'll wait until Nutn gets one."

Adam Boyd

My only experience with KelTec was the P3AT I had about 10 years ago. That's one of the few guns I'm glad to be rid of.

Ben Wagner

I don’t think Chad will ever be coming back on the project.

The Nutnfancy Project

Thanks CS, I do have some value shotgun reviews out there; they didn't do great for views which didn't motivate me to do more. But I have another coming and we'll see if it changes!

The Nutnfancy Project

All true. The problem is KelTec does not and never has had effective leadership. Therein lies the problem.

The Nutnfancy Project

Excellent commentary and observation on Ruger. The problem is KelTec does not and never has had effective leadership. Therein lies the problem. This will be my message and should have been it for years. Designs are awesome but it takes leadership and enforcing QC to get it right. That means firing people. KT won't do it.

The Nutnfancy Project

" Great review as always Nutn, I appreciate the time you guys put into all of your reviews. Probably still going to buy the KS7 and see if I have the same issues, I can deal with the quirks if it does." Thanks Jake. I think the KS7 IS a great design, poor QC. If you send it back they will make it right. You'll have to decide if that process will work for you. Let us know how it goes in a future shotgun review here in Patreon.

The Nutnfancy Project

Oh he will! We remain pretty good friends. He understands the problems at KelTec and he's been one trying to fix them for many years. But he doesn't have the mantle of leadership to make the hard calls to fix all this stuff.

Trevor K

i have a feeling keltec could spend more time getting their shit squared away and guns to work and charge an extra $100 per gun and people would happy to pay it for a working gun.

Maplebrew

Nitin I’ve heard you say here and in previous vid with high regards to QS / ISO quality certs. Let me tell you, THEY MEAN NOTHING TO QUALITY. They are just an audit checking to see if your doing what your paperwork says what to do. That’s it. How is this bad? Well if KT thinks their injection molding molding is rock solid, some QE decides to write in the inspection paperwork to check one part every 4 hours. And if you’re operator checks a part every 4 hours per paperwork then the cert is stamped. Meanwhile in the last 4 hours 6 random parts slipped by for random issues they would of failed the test. That’s the same reason so many car companies are horse shit. Take Chrysler, FCL or whatever their called now. Year they got their certs, but your cars ain’t going to see 100k. Trans is gona blow, or turbo overheats and burns out the oil and goodby. My rant message is, certifications do not define quality. They just check to see what ya doing vs what ya say you’re doing. Apparently KT is poorly managed and perhaps their has been a leadership change. But regardless they’ve been slipping and WE need to hold them accountable. I’m not a hater, I’ve got PF9 and satisfied. 300+ rounds through it.

LabGuy

Yo Nutn! Review the P17! I’d love to hear your opinion on the gun, I feel like it was built for your BOK. Love everything you have been doing with the project and thanks for being an awesome dude :)

Cyborg009

QC is a management values issue. You can hire manufacturing consultants who will look at the production line and tell you how to fix it. Their current practice is 70’s Detroit mindset. But what makes KelTec different from Detroit is that they are an innovator in a bunch of niche designs. So long as that demand stays high for those designs they can follow this path—it’s quite profitable.

Torch345

I’ve owned just about every KT product...and sold them all except the Sub2k (G2). KT does CS right: Nutn mentioned paying to ship it back to the factory, but the half-dozen times I’ve returned guns they always send me a pre-paid shipping label. It costs me $0 and the product they return (quickly!) is much better. Had an RFB blow up, a KS-7 that never fed correctly (they ended up replacing the whole receiver, new serial number and everything), and some others for minor tweaking. I keep swearing off KT, but then their product design is so cool I keep coming back. Maybe a P50 is next...maybe.

Carioca

I bought one last month. Took it shooting first time last week. Shot one box 23/4 light target load because this is my first shotgun & I had some trepidation & I have to make multiple trips because of ammo purchase limits of 2 boxes per visit. Through one box no issues. I have bought & installed a Hitech Howitzer muzzle break & pic rail because I wanted a light then a CDS Tactical Grip. I will provide my experience. But I really think the issue with yours Nutn is it's the wrong color. FDE all the way.

Carioca

I did buy one last month based on the positive KSG review. With the POU of light weight of the KS7 I went for it. Looks like I should have waited. I have already spent money on mods, We will see how it works out. I am one of those guys that will shoot it maybe 3 or 4 times a year. I have visited Sportsmen's Warehouse several times to stock up ammo 2 boxes at a time. I will be monitoring closely and let you know.

Green Mountain Boys

Dear Kel-Tec; Please sell the proprietary tool to remove the muzzle brake on the RDB Survival. I know you won't, but hey here's for trying.

Dawson Rabb

Great point. This is the problem with regulatory practices. I agree that the best way to fix these issues is to allow to consumers to vote with dollars, not more regulation. The KT issue is framed well by Nutn when he talks about the high demand and sales. The problem won't be solved until sales drop.

Chris Kales

Thanks Nutn! Pretty happy with my 2nd gen aftermarket modified KSG - and I'm probably going to be happy with my 2nd gen aftermarket modified KS7 when it comes out. Sigh...there is something clearly wrong with me. Lol!

Tacticaldoodle

Still haven't seen one on the racks. They sell pretty dang quick. Heck, We only recently spotted their .308 tavor last year!

Tacticaldoodle

With some mods, an improved forend, maybe a VG, the KS7 could be much cooler. It's got a lot going for it right now, and given how much better some other mods and kel tec builds have become, I think it's got a LOT of potential!

The Nutnfancy Project

Exactly. The leadership is poor at KelTec and that's why this crap still is going on after all this time.

Jose Wenceslao Reyes

Held one of these at the shop recently. Rented it and shot it. Gotta say, I liked it. Most of it was second cool factor because I've never shot the KSG and I love that gun from my gamer days in CoD. Might be my first strictly fun gun.

Daniel Herb

Looks like a sweet space blaster! I am a fan of some of the KT lineup (PF9 being my first carry gun) but Ill wait till Gen II to pickup this one. Hopefully some of the issues will be fixed up then. I just see TD recapping a story which starts off "so I kicked open the shuttle gunner door; grabbed my space gun and started blast'in"

Jeremy doblinger

I like this shotgun.. would I buy it not really.. maybe buy it, shoot and enjoy then put back on market.. gotta stick to a more proven system..

Charles Sagaser

I was totally going to buy this shotgun for the misses but now I'm thinking not. Also was considering the KSG, but now I'm also questioning that... sad day.

Cheesewell

The pawn shop story was hilarious 😂