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DBS Reaction Ep. 93 (Patreon)

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MY FAM!! Here's an early upload for you all <3

The next reaction will be posted on Tuesday, October 31st 2023!!

See you all then! 

- Baris

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Lauvan Jean

Y’all are the MF best!💯💯 Thank you and Happy Halloween guys💯

Frank

Tuesday? Why not Monday but have a good weekend

RxS Blue

Happy Halloween you two!

Carrier98

Omg spoiling us on this Friday!

Corey

Hell yea great timing just watched yesterday’s reaction!

Eric

Baba is frieza og voice actor

Christian Vazquez

Wonder why not Monday lol but alrighty I’m glad we didn’t have to wait for this one because this is an all timer imo. The Kale and Frieza stuff both are Super awesome to me

Eric

Why would frieza sabotage his team, if he’s existence is on the line. Enemy or not if our lives are on the line u have no choice but team up so I would trust him cuz I don’t have a choice

Jonathan

Love the early upload! Thanks so much for all the hard work I know you and Madison put into these. Hope you have a great Halloween!!!!

Ubergamer

Don't you mean Monday?

Nicholas Moore

I definitely hated the tingle in your back thing at first but learned to accept it. And just remember they're from a whole other universe and do things differently. And it's still kinda cool seeing female super saiyans.

Troinell

Baba bringing ppl back from the dead dates all the way back to original dragon ball. That moment brought tears to my eyes and i know it will to both of you when you start to watch dragon ball

Naru Kunn

10:50 This is what Baris would sound like if he was a hippee ☮️

Ubergamer
>>120772865

Sometimes he did some mistakes by writing the wrong date So maybe it's this time because he didn't update regarding that

Victor

I understand Madison’s doubt in Frieza but the alternative of not bringing Frieza is most likely the annihilation of the entire 7th universe. Risking Frieza pulling a fast one is a very small price for the annihilation of their universe 😂 plus if we talk about team players Goku and Vegeta are no better. Both have had their fair share of fighting huge villains and refusing aid until they’re down for the count. Can’t wait for the TOP great reaction guys

Troinell

You gotta explain to madison that the U6 saiyans aren't weak lol cabba was giving vegeta a run for his money in base form

Victor
>>120767647

I mean the fact that he was willing to offer himself to a completely different universe not once but twice shows the doubt in him was warranted. Now is that worth not brining him along? No cause the alternative would be the end of universe 7 but if Frieza was to be able to find a way to survive the annihilation of the 7th universe he’d betray them in a second without a doubt. He just never found a way but he sure looked for it

TheRealN

Isn’t broly cannon because of the movie already …

Troinell
>>120779142

The broly movie wasn't a thought by the time this episode came out

supreme commander trump

I dont mind the quick power ups for that specific universe as long as they explained it was unique to that universe... I.e. the back stuff and relative ease of going to ssj2 But correct me if I'm wrong at no point do they reference that it's a unique thing to this universe? We are just meant to assume its the same parameters as goku / vegeta right?

Victor
>>120772865

I would be more understanding if they had just put Tuesday or just the 31st but since they put the day of the week with the exact date think it’s safe to say they meant Tuesday

Galaxy Commander

Yea, let's invite the man that blew up my whole planet, killed my best friend, and blew up my planet Earth as well, as long with my rival/friend atp. Yea man this is why I can't see why Frieza coming back was so overhyped by the community. It's like everyone forgot about this stuff...

Adam Carlton

I can understand why some people are annoyed by universe 6 achieving super Saiyan so easily and going to hell to recruit Frieza. It isn't the BEST writing but it's fine. The rules for each universe don't need to be the same. If universe 6 saiyans have a natural ability to achieve the super Saiyan forms, so be it. With Frieza yes there's better ways they could have completed their team such as using the dragon balls to wake buu or going into the time chamber to unlock other people's ability etc. I agree we've seen a little too much of Frieza already and it would have given a lot of creative options if buu were there but what we end up with by the end of ToP is still cool. We see Frieza and Goku actually work together. Shame it ends up being another missed opportunity because he goes back to his old ways afterwards but eh.. it still makes for a hype moment when they team up and knock out Jiren to win

David

Well, Madison’s right about Frieza not being a good team player, but so as Goku and Vegeta too. Well, not entirely lol

CYBRLFT

Gah I hate the anime for going the weak minded little girl route with Kale… it’s such a tired cliche and not how she is at all in the manga. She’s a confident badass that knows she’s stronger than everyone but hides it in an attempt to protect Califla’s pride.

Ammar

How the hell they got so strong when Guko and others took them years of training to reac ssj2 .. it doesn't make sense

Darren Metts

I’m just waiting on 109-110 and everything afterwards tbh lol

Solebat

This episode was a big deal. Brolly at one point was one of the most popular characters but he was never cannon. This was an attempt at making the legendary super sayian cannon but with a twist. Next episode makes up for Frieza replacing Buu.

Darryl Greene
>>120776058

female Super Saiyans yes, tingle back thing...I will never accept...I just pretend it away. lol I think I would have preferred if they had already ascended (like the U7 Saiyan's) but on their own tragic journey or quest for power....but i guess that's too much back story for such a quick introduction.

J.R.Smith
>>120784053

I agree with everything you said except the missed opportunity part with Frieza going back to his old ways. Part of what makes Frieza great is the fact that he is a true villain at heart. I don't think we need yet another "misunderstood" villain. That's one of the things I believe most people appreciate about the Frieza character

Adam Carlton
>>120785348

You're thinking too much that they have to be the same as the saiyans we already know from our universe. The whole point of other universes is that they are similar but with their own attributes. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that universe 6 saiyans just have a natural gift to be super saiyans

Adam Carlton
>>120784053

Oh yeah sure he's a villain at heart but I was hoping that he would become somewhat like other characters that have gone from villain to hero/anti hero throughout dragon ball. After the events of ToP he could have still been himself but accepted the fact that having Goku around is beneficial to him growing the way vegeta has and that he doesn't need to destroy Goku and vegeta. Instead he just stays the same and it's kinda one dimensional and boring. But we've still not seen where the story takes him in the manga so maybe there's still time

Andeh X

Kale is not supposed to be the "canon version of Brolly"... She's meant to be universe 6's legendary super saiyan, the way Brolly is in the 7th. Vegeta even mentions this in the TOP when he tells Goku to be careful when fighting her, because it could be the saiyan transformation of legend that his ancestors talked about

Helder Romero
>>120785298

Could be an adaptation of the first non-cannon DBZ movie. Back then Broly was made to be this timid looking character that was controlled. Same facial expressions and everything. I like the pride comment - reminds me of future trunks in the cell saga

Helder Romero
>>120767647

I mean it could be warranted or he could’ve been scheming since that point. It’s Frieza after all…a villain. He did the same with frost

Helder Romero

Dam I’m surprised Baris, you didn’t mention the plot hole in Goku’s promise & plan. Assuming it hasn’t changed in super 👀👀👀

Douglas Murray

Kale's trigger to her transformation is a bit unique to others. It wasn't anger or even the tingling sensation in the back, it was self-loath or her being insecure, having low self-esteem. She wasn't triggered out of anger at the moment Cabba "insulted" her, but the moment when she cries with her negative affirmation (shaming herself, feeling powerless, useless) when talking to Caulifla. But after the transformation, her target is Cabba. Spoiler: Again for the first time in the tournament, Kale transformed again but it wasn't trigged out of anger seeing Goku "stealing Caulifla", she was triggered from thinking that Caulifla ignores her or doesn't like her anymore. But then again after her transformation, her target is Goku. TL;DR: it wasn't anger, it was sadness, feeling of powerlessness (how strange and unique), and shame.

Eric
>>120781613

Goku doesn't care about Frieza being a villain. All of his best friends used to be his enemy. Tien, Piccolo, Vegeta, 18, Buu. We've even added 17 to the list now.

Spectre Six

Kale is Universe 6's Legendary Super Saiyan. Literally.

Galaxy Commander
>>120781613

The big difference of all those characters is that they were redeemable, Goku should KNOW by now atp in time that Frieza is NOT like his past enemies turned allies.

Erich R

I love Caulifla and Kale as characters. But it would have made more sense for them to have achieved SS (off-screen) years before the ToP.

Bxking1124

They made a female broly CANON before the ACTUAL BROLY let that sink in lmfaooo foh fuck em both

Douglas Murray
>>120767647

I kind of get why he was willing to offer himself to 2 different universes because it was one of his despicable tactics that he's famous for: manipulation. Also, I could see that when he tried to negotiate with U9 before the tourney starts. He was thinking of a way to not having to fight alongside with the Z-fighters who hate him so much. Frieza has always been seen as a villain to them, and remembered for what he did to them and the Earth, and how he was humiliated in Resurrection of F, and those thoughts plus confronting the Z-fighters would make him uncomfortable fighting alongside them. But after the scheming didn't work out, he had to swallow his pride and learn to get along with the Z-fighters, although most of the tournament we saw him doing his own thing and separated mostly from the Z-fighters (to not having to confront them), except for the last few big fights.

Richard Dean
>>120792642

pretty sure dende mentioned in Z that he changed that part of the wish when he powered them up

Jamieson

The tingly back goes back to Eastern philosophy. In Buddhism, when meditating, there are 3 points at which your energy is channeled. Shin (inner spirit or God; between the eyes), Ge ( energy in your naval area), and Ki ( life energy in the upper back). So the thingly back is a good concept IMO, but it wasn't explained very well.

Helder Romero
>>120792642

Wait really?! Damn lmao fail! 🥲 I always thought it was just 2 wishes instead of 1

Helder Romero

How many times that boy upgraded Earth’s dragon balls?

Victor
>>120781613

Well the alternative was the universe gets erased, goku knew that which is why he brought Frieza. Unless you wanted Yamaha💀. Plus ima assume you watched the TOP ending so if anything good on Goku for bringing him back. Or the universe would’ve been gonezo. There is such thing as liking a villains character in movies and anime. The heroes aren’t always the ones we are supposed to like. We can appreciate a good well written villain and that’s why Frieza was hyped for returning and god damn did he not disappoint

Toraxus

@Baris. maybe you guys check together the japanese dub for her transformation. The Original Scream is 1000 times better ;)

solomon ogbe

it took Goku and co decades to reach ss2, Caulifla gets it within 2 eps

solomon ogbe

too bad the next 4 episodes are well kinda forgetful, not anything good until ep 98 and then ep 100 and 101, then its gonna be halfway boring until ep 109 where things explodes for most of the remaining tournament

4T14
>>120799037

This is facts, people don’t seem to know about this but I’ve seen videos explaining the tingly back which does in fact make sense

4T14
>>120800789

Because they didn’t have the power level to transform U6 does on top of different biology and S-Cells

4T14
>>120781613

He does know that, the point of Frieza in this Tournament is the Theme of Trust, he knows Frieza wouldn’t want to die and would help the 7th to keep on living for his own benefit and Goku’s promise aka Trust.

Anthony Cross

It was actually smart of Goku to say that he'll use the Earth Dragonballs to bring Frieza back. Why? Because the Earth Dragonball's we're already used to bring him back during ROF, meaning that wish can't be granted. Frieza was getting set up to be screwed over after this Tournament Of Power and he didn't even realise.

Benny

You guys are forgetting that they're prodigies

noah

it’s honestly just really simple the super sayain transformation never meant anything in the first place the super sayain transformation is so incredibly weak in the vast universe and the universe 7 sayains were horrifically weak and even when they unlocked it on namek and the android saga they were still scrubs no stronger than magetta from universe 6 and in the universe 6 vs 7 tournament we saw that base vegeta was a equal to base cabba and vegeta base is equal in power to goku base and goku in base has all of the strength from the super sayain god transformation so basically cabba is equal to the goku that went god mode in the beerus movie so cabba caulifla and kale should be easily cable of achieving all of the super sayain forms 1-3

LordOfDarkness1190

I don’t care what anyone says. Kale and Caulifa are lesbian lovers in Kales eyes.

Galaxy Commander
>>120781613

Well I'll say this, I have no problem with people liking Villains at all. Hell I love Villains a hell of a lot more than heroes most of the time. Me personally I was just sick of the constant Frieza Resurrection shit. It's old imo, also to your point about who else they could have used instead of Frieza. I mean I don't doubt Toriyama could have brought in some new character that Goku met in his past battles. (His time spent in the in the otherworld after dying against cell). But overall if that's what you like I'm not faulting you. Just not for me personally.

Josh Vegitofan17

Kale: "Cabba! Let's go! You will be my first blood sacrifice!" Broly: "You Kakarrot! I choose you to be the first of my victims!"

Jaehwa Jeong

Wait till Madison sees the actual Canon Broly after the show!!

Vegeta

yyyeeeep. SSJ2. 5 minutes after first going 1. *long sigh*

Victor
>>120781613

I apologize if I sounded a bit dickish, wasn’t my intention to come off as such, as for the villain thing the way you put it in the first message seemed like you were against Frieza coming to the TOP cause he was a villain 😅 but thing with DBS and DBZ with all the resurrection death means nothing so I didn’t see much wrong with bringing Frieza back, I mean most main characters in DBZ and DBS have died and been resurrected. To me that kinda helped me accept Frieza being brought so much. But I feel it woulda been weird to put the universes fate in a brand new character they’d be introducing with 0 chemistry with the other Z fighters. Which Ik you’ll say Frieza isn’t any better cause he’s an evil guy but the sense that he has been part of many arch’s gives an impression of chemistry even if it’s not there which again paid off. Plus Frieza is evil but quite tactical and don’t think they’d find anyone stronger than him to help which with replacing buu he was the only choice imo😅, but yeah I get it not for everyone, respect your take 👍

Mark

Can't wait for you guys to watch the Dragon Ball Super Broly Movie

T0byBear

I mean, are we forgetting that Broly became a Legendary Super Saiyan because he somehow remembered that Goku used to cry all the time when they were babies? Compared to that...boiling Super Saiyan down to some weird tingle in your back is kind of whatever at this point...Also Goten was shown to just randomly change while training with Chi Chi. At some point in this series, becoming a Super Saiyan became as easy as changing your shirt...

Michael Shehata

Hey Baris will Tuesday be a double upload or just episode 94? Thanks!

Daniel Ammann

Thats not the canon version of broly, that the Universe 6 Version of broly. The real "canon" version of broly is coming in DBS Broly Movie and moving forward

Odin Von Oslo

Thats Universe 6 Legendary SSJ, yes. But our lssj is broly and also canon, like in the DBS Broly movie :)

Ogre328

It could easily be that a super saiyan isn't as powerful in the 6th universe. Just as they could be even more powerful. Or their transformation could work differently. This is why I don't like multiverse stories. Nothing is off the table and anything is possible, so effectively nothing matters. Same reason I've checked out of the MCU at this point. It's lazy writing.

Antwan Mcclung

I always said gt was better than super but Z is better than both

Lokizade

While it came across initially as frustrating to us having watched older DB content, this is also portraying Saiyans from a totally different Universe. There's nothing to say that they have to abide by the same rules as the ones we know from the seventh. I think it's important and also fair to remember that. Not saying you have to like it though either.

myKdy1-pejnyn-qomguj

You there actually fun fact I noticed watching the first time when Frieza speak to goku not to leave he said differently. Also bringing Frieza back is good thing and bad thing because he’s a wild card. And look forward to the next episode take care

Peter Fowler

You can't say its not cool that Frieza is on the team Probably is fan service but sometimes as a fan i like service

Josh

I feel like I deserve to be super saiyan more than those saiyans

Mirza Baig

i tried my hardest to repress the memory of this girl power super saiyan nonsense. i'd assume most girls would find this level of pandering insulting. I'm just gonna keep pretending its not happening.

Mirza Baig

"Though my body has been idle, my mind has not. I've devised new ways to improve." Anyone else catch that?

Josh Vegitofan17
>>120816787

It made more sense with Goten, because his father was already a Mastered Super Saiyan when he was conceived. So it was basically passed on through birth. No one in U6 had been a Super Saiyan before Cabba.

David Garcia Alvarez
>>120816787

No it doesnt. Never, not manga, not anime or Toriyama said never that if your father become ssj, your sons will auto transform (example, Gohan), and we could even say that he didnt know his father when he was already ssj... And by the same rule, you have no idea how U6 ssj works, do you have some extra secret information about it? let just say its a rushed narrative and move on

Byakuran
>>120795437

Ill have you know they had actually animate the brolly movie before this episode aired

Venomous

In the manga Kale was already able to go ssj way before Caulifla and Cabba which is why she hid it from them. Just like in the anime she couldn't control her power

Ogre328
>>120823791

I find it also to be lazy to write a story in which you don't have to think about anything you're doing because you have created a world where you could add absolutely anything and it makes sense in the scope of the story because literally everything can be explained away by multiple universes.

Robbie Medica
>>120781613

A new character would genuinely be bad writing, because the way the tournament is set up there is far too much action to set up or have a new character have any kind of good story or arc. They already get enough criticism for Jiren being boring, introducing new characters and having them actually be compelling at this point is almost impossible, it'd have to be someone they set up earlier in Super at least.

Robbie Medica
>>120800789

You realise she wasn't born at the moment she is introduced? We don't actually know how old she is, and her base power level is leagues above Z saiyans and probably at least equal to or higher than the Buu Saga saiyans.. So it did take her decades.

Robbie Medica
>>120801769

Are you kidding, the Master Roshi episode is one of the best in the whole series, that's like 106 or something.

Bob
>>120994402

makes alot more sense. Remember when turning super sayain took tons of training? Now it's just squat, tighten your fist and HA! Wouldn't be surprised if krillin went super sayain just for the hell of it.

Gohanks
>>120994402

At least Krillin deserves it more than U6 Saiyans lol. In TFS Trunks says to Krillin ‘you would be unstoppable at this point if you had Saiyan biology’.

solomon ogbe
>>120801769

compared to the ones i listed its not impactful to the tournament standings as someone like gohan could beat those guys in 1 min, it was good for roshi, but i was thinkimg big picture relevant episodes that actually affected the future of the saga and all those includes eps about Jiren Goku and the Super saiyan girls as those was the only people who could win the tournament, when saying girls i was thinkin Kefla really.

CYBRLFT
>>120785298

I see where your coming from... perhaps if they did it better. You can tell they're really rushing to make the universe 6 saiyan's relevant with the whole nothing to super saiyan in a couple episodes.

Luke8694

And there goes Kale..."ascending" ugh

Truth
>>120882298

I think he could've worded it better but I think he means how caulifla is supremely stronger than cabba as an ssj without even using effort. She achieved the form by trying and even went ssj2 out of nowhere and the fact that they reduced OG Broly to some weird chick with no character at all other than the fact that she can go Lssj for some reason. It wasn't even cool. I think every Kale moment is mad cringy, not because she's a girl but because it's extremely forced. I like caulifla though personally. But it does seem like they're trying to emphasize girl power by making her stronger than Cabba without ever fighting as an ssj

Michael Williams

I think kales broly form is called super saiyan bezerker. And broly is a mutant, instead of turning it to a great ape, broly turns into what we see

Vmichael8

That transformation definitely giving me DBZ Broly vibes