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SECRET SONG Reaction: Milan (Night 1) (Patreon)

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2024-07-14 00:47:12
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CIAOOOOO!!!!!!! Our lady is in Italy and she did some offensiveeee things!!!

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Jenny M

Her best boyfriend is Travis Kelce because he helps her out of cars , and holds her hand and joins her onstage to carry her across the stage, and he cares about her feelings.

Annie

I don't think these were actual swifties who were on this. 😂😭What are there swiftie qualifications?! PS LOVE THE JUMPERS.

Sammy

Just wanted to say i love you guy’s and your videos soooo much omg. Your reactions and fathomings add so much depth to my understandings of songs and it’s so sweet seeing you guys so excited about it all. Also cant wait to hopefully see some Chemtrails or blue banisters content one day🤭✨

lane ♡︎

Travis is hands down her best bf from all angles r u kidding -_-

Sammy

Also lana has a new single out and a music video you guys should totally check it out✨❤️

Carola Bravin

Just got back home from the show and rannn to watch this even if I’m still shocked and amazed by everything 😍😍😍😍

Graciekay

Yes Travis!! And obvs Taylor Lautner is king

Alysia Rene

Travis is first best, Tom Hiddy was 2nd and Taylor could easily be 3rd

Stephanie Marie

The " sei bellissima" chant was too cute! Love that for her.

rylee!

the jack arguments make me so mad everytime because you just know the people who say those things have songs like getaway car, maroon, and august in their top 5 …

Natalee Bieber

just saw a tweet saying hiddleston is the second hottest boyfriend after alwyn!? frightful

Rebecca

Travis is definitely Taylor’s best boyfriend! She has never been happier ❤️💛

Sarah✨️

It was fantastic! Loved the outfits with the song choices ❤️

Kristin Kline

It sounds like the pole was, “we asked 1000 Calvin Harris fans” not Taylor Swift fans. I have never met one Swifty who has ever thought that he was the best boyfriend.

lane ♡︎

I don’t get why people hate on Jack either. Every song they have done together is absolutely stunning and perfect. Just enjoy the superior music and sounds your ears are blessed with. People would also complain and have things to say if she changed producers for every album.

Andrea C

Travis is her only boyfriend who is man enough to be her man. He’s not intimidated by her success. He celebrates her!!! She celebrates him!!! It’s been an amazing thing to watch. And I was a Travis hater at first.

Czechgrl

Yessss!!!! I have that sweater (jumper) too!!! Love it!! 🥰🫶🏼

Andrea C

It’s the simple things for sure.

NickiGirlAZ

Travis is without question her best boyfriend to date and I am definitely getting future hubby vibes from him! Calvin Harris? No way! What was the requirement for being a Swiftie is the real question? Some opinions should stay thoughts that's all I can say about that response. Lol

Gone Girl

I think most of the industry can agree that 1989 was a cultural reset.

Andrea C

I don’t like the Jack hate either. But I’d def love to hear another Max Martin/Taylor bop. Blank Space re-fathomed for 2024.

Jasmyn Starr

I loveeee wonderland😭😭😭😭 so underrated!!! Immediate tears when she started playing it, it’s in my top two of songs I wanted to hear live!!🩵🕳️🐇🤍

Joe Weaver

Happy 4th Anniversary to Chats & Reacts! Hope it's only the beginning of however long you both want to do this.

Ally ❤️

Travis all the way- and Boy Tay is the best ex. Calvin was the woooorst just behind JM. Love Harry, but he was just a fuck boi who needed to grow up back then 🤷‍♀️

Ottie Rose

Travis Kelce 100% 10/10 would recommend

Allie

I ALMOST DO SUPREMACY

Laura Stimpfl

This was my show yeii!! It was soo good the crowd was insanely loud (I wore earplugs through the whole show mainly to be able to hear her over the crowd), and I LOVE how Italian crowds always surprise artists with the "sei bellissima!" chant. They're always so happy about it I love it! 😍

Andrea C

Guitar surprise song- confirms “The 1” is about Harry. I’ve heard people say it’s about Matty👎 and that horrifies me.

Isabel Victoria

I look forward to these more than the actual livestreams 🥰 you girls feel like my long distance swiftie friends

Vivian Tang

Everyone was saying Joe was the best boyfriend when Rep and Lover came out, and now Travis is the best. If Travis and Taylor break up, and Taylor ends up getting a new boyfriend, people will start bashing on Travis and what they did to Joe. I just do not understand how we only listen to Taylor’s narratives and only through her songs and act like we know the whole story.

Taylor Forsythe

The “Swifties” in that video don’t sound like actual fans. I just simply reject those incorrect opinions 🙂‍↔️

The Renn Domino Experiment

Taylor has class. She doesn't flaunt her sexuality because that will fade with age. Her lyrics will last longer than her boobs, her curves, and her ass. Wrinkles will cover her face and hands, but her lyrics will make us feel young. Are these female performers who flaunt their bodies respected or taken seriously? Taylor focuses on feelings of the heart, not hardening of the dick.

Josh G

I vouch for Tom Hiddleston, he got her to chill here in bris/aus for a holiday! Plus I don’t think he was really frightful from what we know!

Wendy

I agree with everything you guys are saying. Taylor has tried something new in every one of her albums. She has transitioned from Country to pop, to other genres. With Jack being one of her best and trusted friends why work with anyone she has to learn to trust again? She has Aaron also that she works with. I don't understand people who have these crackpot opinions. I also say Travis is the best boyfriend. None of the others have supported Taylor so much with what she has been doing. She is thriving my friends.

Isabel Victoria

On Katy Perry, genuinely like are any of us feeling lucky to be living in a womans world right now? Especially when in the US we’re seemingly sliding into a Handmaids tale reality 🥴 she needs to be so fr. This was not the move.

Isabel Victoria

I think they officially announced that ICDIWABH is gunna be the next single!

Erica

I kept yelling “mhmmm YESS!” The entire first 20 minutes of this video! Preach y’all!!!! I cry when I think about fearless too. 💛

Laura Stimpfl

I can confirm I WAS panicking when she came out in the new fearless dress and I swear I was the only one in my section, no one fathomed! Then nothing happened for rep and I was like, fine, nothing's happening tonight 😳

Alberto

THIS WAS MY SHOWWW😭😭 First time seeing Taylor live and oh my god I’m a changed person 🤍🤍😭❤️

Danny

She also wore a matching blue 1989 outfit today

Erica

Sometimes I feel like a failed swiftie because “I Almost Do” was my favorite on red and not ATW 🫢🤭 I mean, “every time I don’t, I almost do” is SUCH A RELATABLE FEELING!!

Sara Rose

I'm scared to accidentally make eye contact with a man out of fear of being attacked. Where is this "woman's world" Katy is talking about? 🤔🤔

Ash W

Taylor Swift is Taylor's own best boyfriend 😌 But seriously, offensive mashups even if all the Rep TV tomfoolery came crashing down hard with them. Ngl, it's far-fetched but part of me is thinking- what if she just continues to introduce new outfits with black in them in order of her Taylor's Version releases until she gets to a new Rep outfit? Not sure how it would work logistically but I've still got my clown makeup on just a little bit. Also, I think "I Can Do It With a Broken Heart" is officially the 2nd TTPD single!

Char

I’m so sorry i thought i was the only katy perry new single hater LOL i couldn’t actually get through the song 🫣🫣🫣

KyraB

I’m only a few minutes into this video and my god Travis is 100% absolutely her best boyfriend. Even if he is not your personal vibe or your a really big fan of Harry Styles I think there is no question in being Taylor’s boyfriend and providing watch she seems to want and need in a partner it isn’t even comparable. This man is loving and supporting her out loud while keeping their relationship private but not a secret.

Char

The new fearless dress is just giving eagle meets tiger and i don’t quite know how to feel 🤔 but im also wondering could it be a connection like a nod to her designer who passed away? as she wears the tiger in 1989 and apparently it was in memorial of him as a tiger is symbolic to him? not sure what to think of this!

Ash W

Tom and Taylor were also soooo gorgeous together honestly

Megan 🌸

When she came out in the new Fearless rep coded outfit I hit the floor running to grab my clown wig. LOL Taylor also wore the full blue set for 1989. Have you seen the videos of Travis winning a karaoke contest the other day, he is so in love!

Talia Adams

We got a bunch of Travis videos over the last few days with the karaoke contest and the golf tournament! Would love some perusing on those before/after tomorrows show if possible 🙏🙏❤️❤️

Linds K

I’m assuming Scott Swift is a Patreon and I really hope he sends Taylor the first 15 minutes of this video because I think she’d truly appreciate everything you said 🫶🏻 and I 💯 agree with it too

Kate Anderson

Omg thank you for sharing your thoughts about Katys single, I watched Zane Lowes Apple Music interview with Katy that just came out to try and get some insight or something idk, and I was left even more confused because Zane was like so all about it??! And was like surelyyy not mate it's not that good hahahah

Jen Mays

It's funny to me that people can make statements about Taylor not being a trailblazer without realizing that in order for them to even consider that as an idea, she would have already needed to be one for people to envision what that would be like.

KyraB

My argument when people in my personal life talk about Jack and Taylor needing to work with someone else is always two fold. One why does she have to change her sound every album. She has changed her sound multiple times while when I ask them who their favorite artist it is someone who has stayed in one musical lane their entire career. She can change if she wants to but if she is really creatively inspired by sound she has been working in then by all means she should follow that path. Secondly Taylor has been the executive producer on her albums for a long time any co producer she is working with is helping bring to life her vision for her music. She would not have any production or sounds that she didn’t fully believe in and want.

Tess7

I’m glad you mentioned the Katy song. We were discussing it last night on the chat and we agree with you lol. I think she spent too much time behind that America Idol table. Yikes. I loved the new dresses, but if Who’s Afraid is the next single with a video, I’ll be so happy! Jack and Taylor create some of her best music. She does just fine choosing her collaborators. It’s so nice to get these chats plus a youtube video in one day- it’s even more special for me because my Stevie Nicks Barbie came today. Thank you both for all you do 🫶

Kirsten Marie

At the time, I loved Joe for Taylor. Having fun watching her have fun with Travy. I would never choose Calvin, for real!?

Teresa Ortega

Bonnie! I also watched that video and it made me physically ill. I almost couldn’t finish it I was baffled by so many of these “swifties” opinions 🤮

Nick S

I don't know if I will recover from her connecting the lines: "asking me if I want to try again with you... But what do you SAY when tears are streaming down you face?" 😭

kaitlyn

those jumpers are so iconic i actually love them and Emily's mum sounds equally as iconic as her father!

Rose Ellen

Whenever anyone talks about Taylor needing to change things up, I always think about what she said about it in Miss Americana - "reinvent yourself, but only in a way that we find to be equally comforting but also a challenge for you" - that whole monologue is OFFENSIVE!! Would be awesome to see you rewatch Miss Americana sometime in the next year or so with everything that's happened since then!

✨Bri✨

The Jack hate never computes with my brain. I love the sounds they make together. Midnights is my favorite album and a lot of my favorite ttpd songs are from the front part of the album that everybody said sounds like the same old Jack…I’m like ummm yes please

ton

Your chats are giving me a lot of ‘reacts’ so multiple comments incoming 🤣…. For the best boyfriend I don’t think she’s met them yet. As it’s a safe space my unpopular opinion is that the jury is out on Trav. We’ve seen his anger when frustrated and they haven’t spent any real time living together yet. I think he’s at risk of being aggressive when negative times or quiet periods come. I hope she one day falls for someone who’s not a narcissist… probably Taylor Lautner or Tom were probably the closest to that… but she dumps them 🤣

ton

Totally agree with the expectations being unrealistic and the Jack comments. Last time she tried something new was Lover…. So careful what you wish for?

ton

Agree about Joe being referenced in the future albums. People mistake that she’s singing ‘about the person’ when she’s really singing about herself usually. I think Labyrinth might be the moment she knew for Joe….

ton

I think the SS tonight were Taylor’s response… who was my best boyfriend…. What if Harry was the Onederland…. Jake I almost did but I knew 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kirsten Marie

Hi Scott! Tell Taylor we love her & her music!

ton

Great fathoming✌️

Kirsten Marie

So extremely relatable. Superior song

ton

I think the question is about being a good boyfriend during the relationship not whether they should still be together now

Trinity

The TTPD dress is also different

ton

For me, I think it’s not about 1 person which is part of the cleverness of the song. I think she references multiple exes through her twenties and “what if they’d been the one… how different would my life be…”

Kirsten Marie

I’m not sure how a monster truck and gas pump up your bum is supposed to relate to me and inspire me. Hated it so much. Cringe and embarrassing

ton

So true … she loves so openly and whole heartedly it’s always a love bubble feeling with her new relationships. Easy to get caught up in

Erica

I don’t know what it is but Travis isn’t my favorite. Agh. Idk I think it’s how quickly he came about after joe and matty… they just seem like life altering relationships… and Travis is such a jock. Idk I’m having a hard time. But I do love how he treats her….. so much! But at the same time it’s a lot..

maya zutra

Scott if you are here can you ask Taylor to write a song about the moments she knew it was right please? And thank you for the merch 🥰

Marie S.

its Tom H., period. no rebuttal ... my girl fumbled the bag so harrddd with that oneee

Mayra

Travis has been the best so far. That doesn’t mean he’s the ultimate but he’s been so supportive

laiz zorzo

Lately it seems that the "swifties", and I'm going to use quotes because some people lately are using the fandom name very loosely to describe themselves and feel more free to say some absurd things about Taylor and what is good or not for her, in all aspects of her life but especially in her music and relationships. I can never understand the obsession with old relationships of celebritys because in my personal life I would hate to hear people defending or discussing about my exes so I can't understand what gives some of us (swifties or fans of any famous people) the false sense that we have a power of judgment to evaluate what was/is better since we know absulutely nothing of what is happening. All I want for her is happiness, always and in abundance, in every aspect of her life. Some behavior I've is from haters and not from someone who call themselves fans of her. Like, commenting on Jack's posts criticizing his work and telling him to leave Taylor alone. Wishing for her and Travis to break up, for him to cheat on her, saying he's not her type and it's a PR relationship. Declaring that her best work is when she is heartbroken or suffering so they find okay to wish for a relationship, which by all indications is making her very happy, to end so she can be sad and write "better" music. I'm very tired from this type of thing lately, especially since it's coming even from accounts on Youtube and Tiktok of people that make money commenting about her life and work. So glad to have you two. Sorry if this was long or didn't make much sense. English is not my first language but I tried my best (your videos help me a lot to train my ear and understand english better😘)

kelby

omg i watched that same video “do all swifties think the same” and there was one girl who i swear wasn’t a swiftie she kinda just undermined taylor and her success. it’s the same girl who said she needs to stop working with jack. i was gagged like what are u doing here lol

Silvia

i love travis she’s the happiest and comfortable (i think it’s the word) i’ve ever seen her ✨ buuut until Travis wears taylor’s merch or an ICONIC “I ❤️ TS” he’ll be the absolute best hahaha 🤞🏼

Silvia

i love your thoughts on the jack hate, just the right words as always 🙌🏻

CAM

I completely agree! In a post Barbie world, how did she create this???? Ugh

Freya 🫶🏻

THANK YOU!! the amount of swifties that hate jack antonoff needs to be studied… he’s literally the best producer of our time? but then as soon as taylor “changes her sound” she’s copying other artists? you can never win with these ppl istg. (side note: need these jumpers BAD-LEE. 😭)

Mayra

I was fathoming a fearless song as well. Had my own chant as well.

Kelsi Ford

I know the video you’re talking about and it was PAINFUL to watch!!! rep is iconic, jack is iconic, trav is iconic.

Jessie

Calling that mash up "1derland"

Freya 🫶🏻

this convo was so deep ugh, love u both sm

Sarah

Don't worry you're not alone! A bunch of us in the chat yesterday were talking about how dreadful it is. I couldn't resist so I had to check out the music video and yeahhhhh it's truly terrible 😬

Victoria

At the end of the tour you guys must do a ranking of the most offensive mashups!!

Sarah

So cringe! I really wish I could erase it from my mind, especially the gas pump part, tbh that grossed me out 🤮

Renee S Smith

Those songs were about reflecting on a past lover. Could be Harry bc of the Stevie Nicks connection but Taylor has been friends with Stevie for a long time, Harry too so a reconcilliation probably would have happened already if it was going to. On another note, I'm doing fine, I'm on some new shyt is the best album opener hands down.

Sarah

Yeah totally agree, it keeps scaring me how much RL is starting to feel like the beginnings of a Handmaid's Tale dystopia. 😣

Victoria

Has she done any other same-album mashups before besides 1989?

Aryanna Alvarado

Hmm, I think you can be sexy and respected as a woman in entertainment. Though men typically gravitate towards such an artist, it can be self-empowering and not just for the sake of "hardening" the "dick," but idk! 🙃

Savannah

Okaaaaay the matching bestie jumpers are so cute!

Savannah

Es muy chido padre 😎

Kristina

We stan your mom for those sweatshirts!! 🩶🩶

Richard

Great chat as always. I never got that Jack hate. 1989 was Max, Reputation was Max, Lover was Joel Little, Folklore and Evermore was Aaron. Only Midnights and TTPD was mostly Jack, anthology was mostly Aaron. Also, I am a straight guy and I think Taylor is Major Sexy. I love Katy perry for a long time but I agree with you about the new single, I said what are you doing Girl! You are doing this song and video in 2024! Come on Katy. Also, please react to Kelly Clarkson, she has a lot more substance on her Chemistry album than Katy Perry's one single. Please.

Alberto

I was there and I can tell you when I heard that piano I was SURE it was gonna be maroon until it wasn’t

Mike Roach

I loved this convo and now I have a bit better understanding of what Taylor means to women. I appreciate you two and how you share your deep thoughts. <3

Victoria

Surprisingly, Joel Little actually only produced 4 songs on Lover and Jack produced 11! I still don't think of it as a Jack album though

Richard

So what. I am still making a valid point though about Jack on other albums.

Renee S Smith

People always describe him as protective of Taylor. I still don't know what protective means at an Oscar party lol. How a guy acts on a football field doesn't necessarily translate to real life. I think they've spent every tour break since South America pretty much together either in KC or LA, and considering they've been dating a year that's atleast 1/4 of that time, possibly even 1/3. As for best boyfriend, the only ones in the running are: Taylor, Harry, Tom, and Travis. I'm a bit biased towards Travis but there was something about her and Harry. Ultimately, with Harry, I think you have the same issue you had with Joe regarding the lack of privacy and not being able to deal with all that comes with dating TSwift.

Sarah

Wdym about Travis being angry/aggressive?? I don't get that vibe from him at all but maybe I missed something?

Shona Marks

I agree/believe REP TV will be announced in London in august... however Sabrina carpenter's new album is being released August 23rd. Do you all think 🤔 Taylor would clash with Sabrina??? Love to hear people's thoughts... ❤️

Renee S Smith

If he treats her well then why does his profession matter? He obviously (as far as we know) makes her feel seen, heard, valued and cherished.

mbot565

Taylor's best bf is definitely Travis. Calvin? I forgot he existed.

Katie LaFave

the moment i knew is soooo underrated!!!

Jordan

Your chat about the relatability of I almost do has sparked an idea for a video! Could you do a video of her most “relatable” songs for specific feelings? Like when I have a friend going through something, I always want to tell them to listen to a specific Taylor song for that feeling. Imagine the video being one place, like an index, for people to come to find the songs they need to match a feeling. E.g clean for someone trying to move on from a painful relationship breakdown. It would just be unreal to have them all in one place! I hope this makes sense! 💛💛

grace, esq.

i'm not that surprised by the travis thing. there was a thing a couple months ago where a teammate said some misogynistic and homophobic things during a graduation speech, and even name-dropped taylor, and jason and travis on their podcast said they disagreed but everyone is entitled their opinions and he's a great guy etc. as a lesbian that really rubbed me the wrong way and so i've been over him ever since lol. but for me taylor's boyfriends are like accessories. like oh cool she has a new purse. i'm not really attached to them as people but just as parts of a long narrative and lore that i really care about. and so i enjoy when she switches out a purse for a new model, LOL. and her music just gives me the vibe that she loves falling in and out of love. and i don't know if she'd ever want to give that up for any purse ;)

Lauren

I don’t think the albums would come out around the same time.

Victoria

I'm not saying it's not valid lol, just pointing out something I thought was interesting because I was surprised to learn he actually produced most of it. I'm agreeing with you that no one really thinks of it as a Jack album

Katie LaFave

Trav is definitely the best!! then taylor lautner especially considering they're friends!!! also justice for tom hiddleston. it was a short, but sweet relationship. he was also unproblematic

Mequet

Been so long since I heard y’all say Frightful Adam I’ve missed it😭

Erica

It’s just an opinion of mine. His profession is just an observation in the context of why I feel, as an outsider, (which ultimately doesn’t matter in the slightest) that he isn’t a match I would’ve chosen. It’s hard to put an artist like Taylor with an athlete. I think we all go to the hard opposite of our last relationship when we have a terrible heartbreak, and I feel that is what has happened. Travis is the polar opposite of Matty. And that must feel good for Tay in this moment in time. So idk I guess what I’m saying is, something feels off because of who he is, and the timing, and so much more. It’s hard to explain a feeling… but I could be totally wrong.

Katie LaFave

in defense of that video it was filmed and posted after taylor and travis had only been together for a few weeks. it came out in October so maybe it was too soon to tell for some of them if travis is the best bf or not

Katie Scott

Ok but I know that video and it was filmed right at the beginning of their public outings so they were a bit skeptical

Katie

So bizarre, she swallowed a bug at my show in Chicago N3 and played The Moment I Knew then too!

Dayle

I'm not so sure about the purse take, it is giving Blank Space energy aha - The Prophecy made me really feel that she just really wants to find someone who understands her, connects with her and supports her - it must be so incredibly difficult to find a genuine connection with her level of fame. I think she loves writing about her experiences falling out of a love as a coping mechanism / reflection but in the moment its probably very painful.

LeaH🌟

Good morning you guys! 💖 Bonny I was inferring if you’d share your list of the surprise songs that are left! I have tickets to Hamburg, Germany N1 and starting to wonder what could happen ✨✨

Bex Sammartino

Listen…I get maybe not thinking Travis is her best boyfriend (disagree but get it) but to name Calvin? Of all the options? I feel like I see more edits and stuff of her and Harry than anyone other than Travis. There are even more Swifties still defending Joe than ones stabbing her and Calvin. It just boggles the mind.

grace, esq.

yeah the purse thing is more my analogy for it, i didn't mean to imply she feels that way lol. i think she's a very complex woman who sometimes wants a soulmate and sometimes wants to be able to sleep in an open field at night a la sylvia plath.

Renee

Thing is, Matty isn’t only musician she’s been with and none of those relationships have gone well. Maybe the polar opposite of that type is what is actually right- and maybe more about the person than the profession. We will see though how the relationship progresses! She also has relationship jumped quick so many other times, her jumping quick isn’t a Travis specific thing.

Renee

Travis is the best, but even if I had to chose someone else, it wouldn’t be frightful Adam!

Ashley Meijer

I was having a bit of a moment with The Moment I Knew today and think maybe she's kind of re-fathoming the song now that she's with Travis. He's been to so many shows and clearly loves it (and has even been part of the show!!!) and Joe so rarely showed up to her shows and didn't come to the beginning of the eras tour. (What do you do when the one who means the most to you is the one who didn't show) He was the most important one to her, and looking back, he didn't really show up.

Mequet

Girls in all seriousness who is wanting new music from Katy Perry? The hypocrisy of who she’s working with and the type of song it’s supposed to be makes it so much worse but also I feel like nobody is checking for music from her.

Danny

A song about female empowerment produced by Kesha’s abuser. This is so tone deaf of her

Renee

I heard that convo about the teammate as well and really don’t think Travis is those things.. nor do I think Taylor would be with someone who was. I could certainly be wrong. However, I think it was more Travis very much disagreed with the teammate but he has to work with him unfortunately, doesn’t mean they’re friends outside the team.

Katie LaFave

yeah frightful adam was not it 😂

Katie LaFave

the jack hate will never make sense to me!!! an artist needs to work with a producer they trust and are comfortable with!!! if taylor ever wanted to make music with someone new and just keeps jack as a best friend, i would support it, but only if it's something SHE wants!!! it's just so crazy cuz jack has produced so many fan favs!!! out of the woods, getaway car, cornelia street, dbatc, cruel summer, august, my tears ricochet, mirrorball, maroon, yoyok, you're losing me, the black dog... i think also people are just like it's been a decade with jack and that she needs to move on which is just so dumb to me!!

Mia Gregorio

these people are not swifties, having constructive criticism is one thing, but hating on everything taylor does is just fake fans. Also the Katy P song gives me second hand embarrassment, i actually cringed the entire music video, she is singing about feminism almost naked the entire video with a vibrator in her hand singing empty cringe lyrics. i’m not a fan but the anticipation she created was so high that i actually though is she capable of something maybe close to teenage dream like a mega hit?? SO embarrassing!!!

lane ♡︎

Don’t be afraid to discuss controversial opinions on other artists because some of us need to feel validated because I was feeling the same thing about KP but it’s hard because I’ve really thought if she was going to come back it would’ve been SO different and I’m disappointed

Katie LaFave

i will say that jack is a bigger part of lover than a lot of people think. he produced 11 songs on it!!!

Andrea C

Great insight!

Kiki

I think a couple of people have said it already but it seems the term "swiftie" gets thrown out way too casually these days when what some people mean to say is that they're Taylor Swift fans. A fan is not on the same level as a swiftie, let's be real. Swiftie is a whole different thing. Because, yeah, a swiftie would know the lore of how terrible of a boyfriend Calvin was and would NEVER elect him "best boyfriend." Her 'best boyfriend' to me is whoever her actual boyfriend is lol. How can any exes be in this competition when they were bad enough boyfriends that they're not boyfriends anymore?? Unless they just mean who we as fans personally like most. In which case... Travis. Very talented, super personable and charismatic, loves music and entertaining, supportive, emotional, fun, funny, etc. And since this is a safe space, I'll say that if there are some people who aren't sold on him as her boyfriend, it's my theory that it's because Taylor has yet to really speak about him, either in like a personal way or through her music. So people don't know the vibe yet since they take their cue from Taylor. He might not feel like a part of her life yet to them so they're free to misunderstand him. I saw that a few times in these comments too, people with the wrong idea about who Travis is. So I hope by the next album they'll get to know! Or maybe he's just not for them regardless, which is fine too!

Zosia Dabrowski

EXACTLYYYY, like people are reinforcing the misogynistic pressure of the music industry in calling for her to change her music up every time!! These so-called fans perpetuating the very culture that has burdened her all along

Katie LaFave

red is taylor's fav album of hers and it makes me happy cuz it's mine too!!!

Amanda P

Travis is the love story she “spent her whole life trying to put into words” 🥹 I feel like he healed a heart he didn’t break & that makes him her most superior bf in my book!! 🫶🏼

Zosia Dabrowski

I have so many thoughts but I'm just going to address the Katy Perry one, I just watched the music video..... luckily all the comments are in agreement that it feels like a parody of feminism made my right wing men, rather than an actually feminist piece. Wtf, I was uncomfortable through that whole thing. It really did feel like satire

Cynthia Puzio

Your crowd was loud and seemed fun on the live stream.

Madeline

Oh no am I gonna expose myself… Tom Huddleston… best boyfriend (from an outsider perspective of course). I take this questions as ‘who out of the boyfriends would I consider for myself’ (which is maybe not the right outlook) but in that sense Travis is just a bit… much for me 😂

Jason

Thank you for the Womans World hate lmao. It's soooooo awful. Brutal lyrics. Terrible production. Objectively a bad song.

Cynthia Puzio

I think it is more Travis' little actions and the way he talks about her in a positive appreciative way. He understands the media and is savvy enough to give them a little without telling them too much. He seems supportive and understanding of her talent, career, and way of life. The man did buy a different house not long after they started dating so they could give it a go. He has also been in on the Easter Egging. I don't recall any of her other BFs doing that.

Georgia Double

Not a single one of your opinions in this video is incorrect. Agree with all of the above and love you two so much 😂👏🏼❤️

SaintsFan

Travis is the best boyfriend! Then honestly I would go Tom but she was crushing on Joe

Alec Beasley

everytime you say jumper i detach myself more from american culture

Cleora Brock

Also, are people going around being like “Green Day? Too punk! They should be country!! George Straight? Too country, it all sounds the same! He should try rock!! Barbara Streisand?? Come on! Switch it up!! We need bubble gum pop from you! Get out there in those short shorts!” Like everyone else stays in the genre, usually for their WHOLE CAREERS!!! She’s allowed to sound however she wants! Don’t like it? DON’T LISTEN

rosie

this is why i don't have tiktok and twitter anymore!! i don't care to look at 'fans' constantly hating (not critiquing) on the person they're a fan of.... it's all about hating, not being satisfied or fuelling all the drama, no thank you ❤️

Joy Nielsen

13:25 - 1500 👏 Never have I heard a better explanation of the power and truth and brilliance of what is Taylor Swift and the success she embodies. Yes girlies.

sofie sandrini

You should to start posting some patreon clips on your TikTok of not you reacting but talking, like the first 10 minutes were vital for swifties with frightful, embarrassing comments like the ones Bonny had heard

Sofia F

Yup probably Tom on second place, but she wasn't a good girlfriend🫣

Nevara PUMPKIN Shaw

They cannot be Swifties! If you’ve seen what she’s been through, even if you don’t like Travis (Which is insane because none of them have come close to how he treats her), you’d just be happy for her. Also 100% on Jack, and Aaron. To say her sound is stale, she has the most versatile sound of anyone else. People are crazy.

E ✨🩷

the age of social media is exhausting, I think ‘swifties’ love critiquing taylor because there’s still misogyny lingering about being a taylor swift fan, so if they’re a fan it’s ok because they actually don’t like her very much so they’re a swiftie but not of those obsessive annoying swifties 🥱 couldn’t be me

Mercedes

the swift alert app is a great way to get notified if something different is happening during a show (esp if you can't be on a live the entire time or don't want to be on twitter)!!

MarkH

I'm sorry, Calvin who? (to quote Kara). Of course, its Travis, by a long way. On Taylor and sexiness, I am a man and much older than most here, but Taylor is sexy and sex is part of her songs and performances. Look at the Vigilante Shit performance, or Dress or Guilty as Sin. What I would say is that she makes it difficult for the culture to oversimplify her as only sexiness--she is a whole woman, and that includes many things. She does not make it easy to objectify her, though sadly people aways try.

Natalie

Germany is going to be wild, since there are so many dates… I‘m getting Australia feelings. Some offensive things are going to happen 😎 see you N1 bestie 💞

Jaana

Em’s death glare during the Rep slanter is a vibe 🤌🏻

Olivia

Travis Kelce is 1000% Taylors best boyfriend!!!

Jeebs

It's just because people already think that Travis is her husband and not a boyfriend. 😂 (safe space lol)

Lilly Wiesmann

Katy Perry continuing to work with Dr. Luke after all he's done to Kesha is just disgusting

Lesbianism’s #1 fan

I know this isn’t super on topic but i feel like the Taylor fandom has become a lot more toxic since the eras tour started. (This is especially prevalent to me because i’m a lesbian and get a lot of hate online when i relate songs to my life)

Jaana

And Travis is definitely her best boyfriend, no questions asked! Aside from him I would say Taylor Lautner for sure.

paulina ⭐️

katy started narrative now that this song and mv is satire but in still very disappointed i was at some point katy fan as she was very very creative performance wise she had good songs since TD but not whole albums. her Las Vegas residency was absolutely crazy, not for everyone but at least it was still “crazy her”.. i’m kinda sad :/ i was convinced you would aim to be at the last show in London! i wished rep tv live announcement for Bonny Rep Stan 🥹

Jeff JT

Lisbon N1 got The Way I Loved You and The Other Side of the Door (with Come Back Be Here too), Liverpool N1 got Mine and I Can See You, and Liverpool N2 got The Great War and You’re Losing Me. So we got some Fearless, Speak Now, and Midnights representation!

Jeebs

Hopefully still a safe space- and just a thought, not necessarily an opinion. I wonder if she released albums further apart would people have the same critique about the sound or the pairing? Or if the rerecords never happened and just Midnights and now TTPD?

tia martin

i know, this lyric is from a break-up song, but people who say that she should stop working with Jack and make new things, didn't understand the "i'm getting tired even for a Phoenix" ... leave her alone; every change she has made is too much for one artist, nobody does that.

ton

Interesting, possibly. I think there’s so much hype now that people allow their speculation to become expectation. So those wanting a bop or country or rock or folk feel frustrated and complain about the production being current pop even though that’s her current vibe.

ton

Definitely satire MV about this not being a woman’s world. But such a bad song that the MV couldn’t save it even though it’s bug budget. And the attempt to return to past form feels desperate I think

ton

Sure but look at the songs he didn’t if people want examples of moving away from Jack

ton

No although an announcement that it’s coming in a few months could still happen in London

tia martin

Harry lives in Italy :)))))

AshZ

You just can’t satisfy everyone and that’s why I like how carefree Taylor is now, she does what she wants to do! She’s working with the people that support her and make her the best she can be. I just don’t understand why Taylor gets abused for having a “sound” but back near rep era, everyone wanted her to have a continuous sound. So many artists pick one lane and stick to it, people are just finding excuses to complain because they hate what’s popular.

Jess.

I mean, they spent like 2 months living together in LA

ton

He went ballistic at his coach when they were down at the Super Bowl. He’s been cited previously as having anger issues. In the podcast Jason pointed it out as being a trait to be worked on. I’m just pointing out that if you’re at the height of success… win SB, global tour, new acting roles etc it’s easier than when times get tough. I would want to be supported through bad stuff to really see someone’s true colors

Renee

Travis kelce is DEFINITELY the best boyfriend!!! I've never been a Katy perry fan so I wont say anything 🫣

Rachel Gresser

ahhhh loved your rant about katy!! lol what was that?! sooooo bad I was shocked

Jasmine

i also thought it was maroon!!

Noemi

I agree so much with you guys!! I remember taking a break from Taylor when I first heard look what you made me do and gorgeous cause that was jarring to me!! It wasn't nothing like red, speak now and fearless Taylor!! Rep was so ahead!!

Myrthe

Ranking Taylor's most relatable songs is fun idea for a video!! And also obviously Travis is top tier boyfriend

Kaylee O'Connor

Omg 🥺 the moment I knew !!!! I relate to that song so hard! On my 21st birthday my boyfriend also did not show up. And that was also the moment I knew that he didn't care about me enough to show up when it mattered. I found out it was because he had basketball game on with his friends... When I first heard that song i was an absolute mess, literally felt like she was reading my diary !!!

Rime

Best boyfriend ? Joe.. Give me a sexy introvert at anytime...Plus, I can't get over the superior songs she wrote about him in the past couple of years To be honest, I'm here for Taylor, not her boyfriends. The only thing I will care about is how good of a muse they're being, and for now, no one compete with Joe in my opinion. More seriously, I'm glad that she seems happy but we can never really know what happens in a relationship and how long it will last..I do find it weird when the fandom call Travis endgame or rewrite history with her past songs, or wait for a proposal or things that just put pressure on them. It's nice to be supportive but it feels like it's getting out of hands sometimes. There's a fine line between being supportive and being intrusive and very loudy about your opinion on the person she dates..

Michelle Reis

The new fearless dress looks like a Tarantula to me and it kinda creeps me out hahaha

Anna Mehrbilder

"being too comfortable with jack" is in a way a spin on the "tortured artist trope". if you want to make ART (!!) - you d better not be comfortable! what a crap. the shift from country to pop was a very smooth one, the shift to folklore was due to circumstances, I honestly dont need more shifting. and one day, when she releases a fullblown electric guitar drums album, it is just coming out what was always there ;-) (in the meantime I keep listening to speak now and red.) I am in no way "over" 80s synth inspired whatsoever, I dont have enough of piano ballads and I love her voice, which is the main factor that all swift songs sound a bit the same - that is what I love about them!

Pia Fleig

I came here to comment the same, but I think you've said it perfectly! I can choose which man I like most based on his public persona, but I don't think it's my place to choose who is Taylor's best boyfriend, because I don't know any of them privately, or have seen them interact privately. Travis seems to be a good public boyfriend who knows what to do to be likeable. And if he's like that privately with Taylor, I'm happy for them! But I don't think I could or should really comment on who's best, because how am I truly supposed to know? Or why should we, the public, judge at all?

Jess L

I think seeing Taylor so happy and carefree makes Travis 100% best boyfriend, a man who isn’t intimidated of her and cheers her own…how can he not be the best?!?

Pia Fleig

I want to add my opinion on the "Jack Antonoff is bad" debate. First of all, I tend not to take anyone seriously who voices his or her opinion in a way that comes off as a demand ("Taylor must change producers") or as judgement ("Taylor chooses bad producers"). If people come off as judgey and demanding, I choose not to listen to them. However, I think it is okay to voice one's own musical preferences. I think it's fine to say that you prefer the sound of a certain producer, and that you are curious what a song would sound like had it been produced by somebody different. That, to me, is just personal preference, and I don't mind people voicing their opinion respectfully. At the end, Taylor will always decide for herself who she enjoys working with and who can realise her sound the way she wants to, even if fans, music critics etc. want a different sound. And I think we have to respect her decision :)

Pia Fleig

Ah, that makes sense!

Laila

Jack and Taylor opinion - no one is bitching that Billie is always working with Finneas... Like... People just love picking on Taylor. Makes me sick!!!

Pia Fleig

oh, that's well said!

Sarah

Totally agree! 💯

Cookiee

Okey, I loved Tom and Taylor together but that dosen't mean that they where a match. I still think that Travis is by far her best match and a man that fits her so perfectly, more than any other partner she has had before. The support and love he publicly share with her is something no one else has done before and this is the kind of relationship she needs, i feel. To not hide in public but also be able to keep things privet when needed. It's has to be a balance and i feel like they are doing a great job at that. She dosen't need to be hidden away, she needs to shine and Travis is all in on that front.

Sarah

Hah great point! Yeah everyone is always complimentary about Billie and Finneas working together, ugh it really annoys me too how Taylor always receives bs criticism that no one else does!

Sarah

Wow he sounds like a dick! Good riddance, you deserve better! Isn't it such an amazing feeling when it feels like Taylor was reading your diary, I felt that way about Tolerate it when I first heard it. Helped me realized I deserved better, so grateful for Taylor's songs omg <3

Ryan Yates

Please react to Taylor swifts opener in London griff her new album is really good

Sarah

That's a great point! Nice to hear a man's opinion on this, as a straight woman I hadn't really thought much about Taylor's sexiness but I think what you said makes a lot of sense 👍

Sarah

I would love it if Bonny & Emily would start playing Mastermind! It'd be fun to compare scores with them and see what they pick etc

Natalie

Travis is her best boyfriend without any doubt for me

Katie K

When we say we were loosing our shit we TRULY were LOOSING OUR SHIT over on discord! The 2 new outfits and it being the 13th we were sounding the alarms 🚨🤡😂 It actually hilarious that a couple of new dresses can cause such absolute chaos. What is happening 😂😂

sleepless_dream (Lauren)

as if it wasn't bad enough, I find it extremely insulting that she had the nerve to dress as a sexualized Rosie the Riveter. at every turn this song was either stupid or disrespectful. It's like she's trying to set feminism back 30 years 😂 It's like she never left the 2010's or something. Apparently this song has 6 writers. What a joke.

Holly Archer

girlies please play mastermind one night it would be so fun to see how you do guessing the outfits 💖💖

Gustav Lucas

Lmao I loved waking up to this snake radio moment

Julia toniato

Travis is her best boyfriend, however I love harry styles so much that I would probably bring him up in the conversation

shedaris

I don't know, I feel like the pure amount of songs that Taylor puts out makes it seem like there's too much of the same thing musically. Don't get me wrong, as a fan I am grateful for what we get, but the output does feel pretty crammed and overwhelming. Besides I don't think it's out of place for us or anyone else to comment on or suggest what could be a good direction to go? Like, that's just feedback, and at this point Taylor isn't personally affected by criticism I don't think. And I agree, that Taylor isn't necessarily coming up with brand new ideas musically anymore. Sure, lyrically and maybe melodically she still is, but in terms of overall sound and production...sorry but no. 1989? Rep? Folklore? Groundbreaking. Ttpd? Not really. You can respect her as an artist AND still critisize her music or lyrics. That's how she gets inspired TO pioneer, TO do better, TO push herself. That's literally the reason we have 1989 and Lover. Should there be a limit on how these comments and suggestions are made? Of course! It should always stay professional and only about the music itself. But it doesn't mean that Taylor shouldn't receive any critisism ever, because everything she has ever done is absolutely perfect and there's no room for improvement. Because that's just not true, sorry

Makenzie Rivera

Travis is clearly the best boyfriend and it’s not even close lol Also, I really wonder if the “swifties” in the video Bonny was talking about are like real swifties.. you know what I mean. I just feel like in videos like that you typically get casual fans and not true fans but 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sarah

Same!! "sexy Rosie the riveter" sounds like a terrible Halloween costume or something, it's definitely not giving feminist vibes! It really annoys me too! And yeah it's pretty pathetic that this song took 6 writers 4 of them men!! 🙄

Sarah

Yes I second this! It'd be really fun!,

Jess

I love both Travis and Joe! It seems that Travis and Taylor seem more compatible and want the same things, but I think it seems that her and Joe had a really special relationship and it didn’t work out as what they wanted and their lifestyles are so different, the Joe hate online makes me so sad because he’s never said a bad word about her, and she’s never said a bad word about him!

Kendra Virtue

She sings sad songs on the nights that Travis isn’t there recently

Jenny🦋

i loved rep so much when it came out and i never really got the hate for it. i'm glad it's getting more and more love from the fandom😊 still thinking if she will announce something today?? also saw the new katy perry video and have no words...🫤

Rime

I think you just stated the difference between being a fan of someone's work and blind worshiping... I love her songwriting, that's what made me a fan. But she put so much different genres of music out there that of course, there will be some personal preferences amongst her fandom..And that's also okay to express

Renee S Smith

She's basically emptied the tank on love songs in the times he's been there and post baecations. She has way more sad songs. Its about the attitude she sings with in both love songs and sad songs.

Jade

I hear you and I respect that take, but I feel like an artist- if they are creating in the way Taylor does- only has to make what inspires them. As fans of a true artist like that, we aren’t always going to get change in any format. I think about the folk music of the past and the artists who made it, or even other genres, and their whole careers sounded relatively the same. However, they, as artists, created it- loved it- explored emotion and sound their way, and not for the appeasable consumption of the masses.

Roxyy

The tiger dress is kinda giving caveman

Renee

It’s Calvin’s real name

CJ

Since everyone has opinions, my opinion is that certain individuals should not call themselves swifties. Like wtf... where did they find these people?!? I'm also curious if we're going to get a reaction still to the documentary on HBO Max? I'm curious to know your thoughts!

Jessica D

Can I say I'm not a fan of Travis Kelce? I do think Taylor is very happy with him and that's great, but he's just not it for me. I find him kind of cringe-worthy and some of the things he's said on his podcast I've not really agreed with. I also vehemently hate football and the culture surrounding it, so I was put off by him from the start! I hope this is a safe space to say this!

Kendra Virtue

I love the sad songs probably more than the lovey songs tbh. This one seemed like she was sad he couldn’t be there because he has a busy athlete’s schedule.

Sara Donaghy

Weird one but I always associate TMIK with my ex not showing up to my aunts funeral for me like that was the moment I knew lol

Green Wolf Gaymer

You'll have to react to that opinion video. Best BF? I'm going to discount Travis because overall, he is the best. But... In terms of being a boyfriend? Launter. In terms of songs written about them? Jake & Harry tied.

shedaris

Taylor always has the right to choose whether or not to listen or take in the opinions of the masses. That doesn't take away our right to express them though

Jacob

I'd love you to react to some Marina... perhaps. Especially 'Froot' and 'Ancient Dreams In A Modern Land'.

Honey

“I’m here for Taylor, not her boyfriends” 👏👏👏👏 well said. Yes she divulges her personal life in her songwriting. Her storytelling is her genius. But to have an opinion on which human being is best for her? I’m not here for that. I’m here for her art.

Pamela Jahrmarkt

LA Swiftie here—Travis is the best boyfriend- Taylor Lautner is best- ex. Travis should propose w/ gold friendship bracelet that says “ marry me” in diamonds and slip casually on her wrist before she goes on stage before her last eras show. And agree entirely with your pre “song” chat. Jack antonoff is always making great new music and sounds with Taylor. She knows what she’s doing. Taylor has her OWN sound and Reputation is so unbelievably fresh — have been listening a lot lately after being in my TTPD era and I am agog. You are RIGHT— Rep was trailblazing. All pop girlies are inspired by her mix, sound and creativity. I’m a writer and people who do not create don’t get the artist process. Everyone is entitled to their subjective musical taste, regardless but criticizing her every breath she takes is very “wine mom.” And that’s me criticizing— so I’m caliing the kettle …. Haha. And YES— MOST MEN “she’s just needs to shut up and stop being creative and be sexy.” Taylor moves me emotionally like no other writer. She is THE poet of the century.

jasmine 🇸🇪🌷

i’m so sorry but those girlies in that video weren’t swifties

Pamela Jahrmarkt

Love you guys— I do feel like one of your besties.

jasmine 🇸🇪🌷

to answer the best boyfriend question, i would probably say taylor lautner. he was the only one i even cared about her being in a relationship with before travis. i love harry but i didn’t necessarily think they worked together and any others including joe i could not give any f’s about 🤭 but i love all of the songs that came from those relationships. i am however so invested in tayvis, probably too much, but it just feels different with them in the best way 🥹🥹

Jaimie C

Thank you once again for standing up for Jack 😇 🤗👏👏 People also forget that Taylor is a producer on her songs so she knows what she wants! I always think back to when you reacted to her Speak Now era interviews and she is humming the Haunted strings to the producers to convey the sound SHE wanted. 💜 About Taylor & her music, it makes me think of this line from this is me trying: "I was so ahead of the curve, the curve became a sphere, fell behind of all my classmates and ended up here" 🩶

Pamela Jahrmarkt

Not loving the KP video- she can do better. Just my opinion

Pamela Jahrmarkt

Yes to all you said about KP video. The worst. Embarrassing. Disappointing.

Stevie

Luckily Taylor needs no advice from self declared experts and know-it-alls! She’s the most successful and awarded artist for a reason. But being on top means dealing with criticism and negativity. She does this perfectly and surrounds herself with a supportive team. Michael Jackson failed, Britney Spears collapsed, many faded. Taylor develops and grows. Nevertheless: Thank you for giving your opinion and supporting Taylor.

Katrina

I think you maybe misunderstand why people were put off by Reputation, it wasn't because of the sound/production, it was because of how the public perceived her at the time. And when Look What You Made Me Do was the first single it played into the "I'm the victim" persona and further rubbed people the wrong way (please note, I do think Taylor was 100% the victim in that situation and her rage was valid). My personal take on Jack is that when he does a few songs on an album they are great, but when he does an entire album it suffers (I'd probably say the same about a Max Martin only album). 1989 and Folklore are great examples of when Taylor worked with someone new and went in a different direction and that's where she shines, so to me it makes sense for fans to want her to keep doing that. I know many fans will disagree but I think Midnights is one of her weakest pop albums and I don't know if she could ever make something as good as 1989 again because she's staying in her comfort zone production wise and doesn't self-edit as much as used to. That's not to say Taylor doesn't still make great music, just that she gets even better when she challenges herself.

skizzo

yes Taylor we need Fearless vault played soon

SomDrum

brb going to have a Red moment because that OFFENSIVE mashup really had me fathoming some things! why is Red really just the gift that keeps on giving??

Katrina

I think it's different because they're siblings, they started together and are a team in a different way from other artists.

Katrina

100% there is always room for her to grow as an artist and person, it's ok not to worship everything she does.

SomDrum

I heard a lot of people saying the new Fearless dress is so Rep coded... but I'm sorry all I can see is that it's giving Flinstones 😂

Azucena Ch.Fdz.

What do you mean the 1 is about Harry!!!! Its so obvious its about Matty, she switched it out of the setlist right after the breakup!

Janelle Keller

Omg girlies!! You got a major shout out from Oskar and Dan you tube channel, they went to see Taylor in Edinburgh!! You must check it out!!

Rebecca

OMG you guys are so on point about how important Taylor is to women! She is a woman's, woman! That's why men find her to be threatening. She is iconic. And by the way, Calvin Harris is not her best boyfriend. Travis is setting a standard for sure! Thanks ladies, you're the best or the best! 🫶👑

grace, esq.

he does have to work with him, but he didn't have to call him a great person or say he can't judge him. i'm not saying travis is an irredeemable asshole, i think he and taylor are cute, but i'm allowed to have my opinion and find it distasteful (if unexpected) that a grown man would wave aside such heinous comments—including ones that directly label my lifestyle a sin. i'm not trying to start a fight. i don't begrudge anyone who loves travis for taylor, and i don't resent taylor for being with him. i hope that swifties here and taylor would also not begrudge me my opinion. just pointing out that we can be swifties and not travis kelce fans.

skizzo

Also as Aussie gals I need y'all to react to some Kylie Minogue

Andrea Reader

I saw someone said Taylor has swallowed more bugs on tour than she has played fearless vault tracks 💀

Jenny🦋

It's soooo bad and the song too

Katie LaFave

yeah for sure! a lot of the tracks from lover that people don't love aren't produced by jack! i was just informing the people. fan favs from lover like cruel summer, cornelia street, and dbatc are all jack songs!! that's why the jack hate makes no sense

WN

In terms of best boyfriend Travis wins. I mean I don’t think as a fandom we’ve she’s her quite as happy before and that’s really all that matters. I’m sure she was very happy with Joe for a few years too so he probably comes in 2nd. Being in Kansas City, I’ve been a Travis fan and some people think he drinks/parties too much, but that really isn’t the case. I mean he’s a professional athlete - there is no way he is performing if he’s doing all that. Also, just listened to the new Katy Perry song and wow…you all were right. That is such a bad song and I had high hopes for her. Eeeekk

M

I agree with a lot of the points here, but I do want to emphasize that there is a difference between hate and criticism!! Criticism is really important for all kinds of art, whether it’s taken onboard or not. Also Taylor is at such a height in her career that she could never take a piece of criticism again, but I think it says a lot that she still does and values the opinions and thoughts of her peers and fans. I think it’s perfectly normal for fans to have aspirations for their fave and their work/career. Not that they have much say/should dictate what the artist should do (at the end of the day), but I think the fans can both support and help to challenge the artist. Taylor always says how appreciative she is of the support when she switches things up, so I think it shows that the mass population of fans are pretty open minded and enthusiastic about her trying new things!! ❤️

Clarissa

Oh no my friend was really hoping for the 1 x the prophecy for 15th August when we go 😢 this is amazing though 😁

Carlee Unger

This is how I find out Katy Perry has new music

Laura Blake

Hours later I fathomed that she played The 1 and ONEderland after Travis was named No. 1 Tight End.

GigiLou

Thanks for your thoughts at the beginning of this video! You really put into words a lot of my feelings when I see so many fans being so entitled, not just to her personal life but also her music choices. That's not to say you can't have preferences (I have albums/songs that I don't like as much!), but because Taylor has given us so much great music and so much variety, I think it leads to fans feeling like they know best what type of music she should do - but of course, everyone has a totally different direction that would be best! She's also clearly been working through a lot of intense feelings on these last albums and wants to work with producers she trusts with those feelings and her vision. Of course, it would also be exciting to see her work with new people when she chooses, but at the end of the day, she's choosing people to execute her vision. She's been so successful remaining true to herself and her vision, and she's so big right now with different types of fans so she gets feedback that's all over the place, and she's never going to satisfy everyone. Thus, I feel like criticism is really hard to take as true when it's so conflicting depending on who you ask; she can only stay true to herself in this situation.

GigiLou

Oh, and obviously Travis is her best boyfriend. I didn't even think to write it because it's too obvious haha. You can't compare to a short, young romance like Taylor L or even Harry. But compared to her adult relationships (as far as we can tell, which isn't everything), she appears to be supported and loved in the way she needs, which is what it's all about. The carefree joy that emanates from her brings me joy too.

Kellie Mahoney

I don’t have a real opinion on the bf thing, but I like the Tom Hiddleston time period for the sheer chaos of it all and the fact that this inspired both Getaway Car and High Infidelity (in my opinion, I know there are a few theory’s on that song)

Elaine :)

I firmly believe that some Swifties believe Calvin was a great boyfriend because of the olive tree part of her 73 questions with Vogue years ago. People saw that gesture as an ultimate romantic one!!!

Annalisa13

Ciao besties ❤️ this was my concert and the first time I ever saw Taylor live! It was the best night but I confirm that we did panic about the gold and black dress 😂

Sarrah Garcia

I just made a connection recently between the 1 and Chloe et al, and I haven’t recovered since. Firstly, they just connect so well, like “I persist and resist the temptation to ask if one thing had been different would everything be different today?” and “cause I wonder. will i always wonder?” are the themes of both. The one that shook me was, “you meet some woman on the internet and take her home.” and “if I sale my apartment and you have some kids with an internet starlet will that make your memory fade from this scarlet maroon?” I haven’t recovered. Also, how illegal would a cardigan x peter mashup be?

Marissa

Okay but I’m going through it with a man and have been listening to I Almost Do like crazy this past week - like get out of my brain, Taylor!

kyra andrea

ILLEGAL FATHOMING THANK YOU

Courtney Schmidt

On the topic of Taylor not over sexualizing herself- I'll never forgot taking my fairly conservative mother to the eras tour movie and during the Lover set she comments to me "her outfits are so modest" that was just so wholesome to hear from my mom who is a seamstress and definitely has things to say about most outfits, she loved her tour outfits (shes going to create the folklore dress for my show in Nov). I love how Taylor can have such beautiful fun outfits and still finds that balance as you guys mentioned in your chat 🫶

Paula

bonny!! where is your phone case from im obsessed !!

Laura

Awww 😍

Em

I know you said if not Travis but I'm commenting to say Travis anyway, I can't believe they all moved :|

Lena Stein

I can’t wait for the girlies to try and pronounce “Gelsenkirchen” at the end of tomorrows video - it is in Germany btw and it’s not a huge city (as Hamburg and Munich are), it just has a huge stadium because of a football club there. I’m so excited she’ll be in Germany for two weeks!!!

Lauren Levitt

The only option I have on Taylor using other producers is I think 2 of her best songs are with producers she’s only worked with once and I would love to see more with them. Aka Imogen heap with Clean, and St. Vincent with Cruel Summer. Though I guess thts technically a writer I wish she would work with again since she only has a writing credit not a production credit on cruel summer.

Just Grace

Ewwww CH is so NOT IT!! TK all the way!!!

Grady

I REEEAALLY wish that she had 4 dresses for ttpd that match the colors of the vinyls, a white, beige, gray, and black, with the lyrics on the back of the covers all over it....it would EEEAAATTT

Ryan

Conor Kennedy Jk Karlie Kloss

Sarah

Whoaaa this makes so much sense!!

Brenda1989

I think the ttpd dress is perfect!! It’s supposed to look like a crumpled scroll of paper that she’s written the same sentence on over and over again like the fortnight music video like an insane poet would do

Bree

It's happening, she's adding black to the outfits - REP TV.

Laura

Taylors last 3 albums are literally completely different sounds what are they talking about😭 she's given us SO much diversity in her music, more than anyone else I can think of, everyone just wants more and more from her she can never please everyone💔

Crystal

13:20 ish- YES!!! I was just telling my bf this!! I love her SO SO much because she makes me feel so seen & like it’s ok to be natural. Like she doesn’t have crazy full hair like extensions, she doesn’t constantly have fake nails, no fake boobs or butt etc- to me she is like WONDER WOMAN. Just a REAL & amazing woman- representing real women. And yes shes stunning of course, but she doesn’t sell her body in a way that most pop stars do. It’s very off putting to me when they oversexualize themselves. It’s just so impressive to me that she is so wholesome and sweet in a time of nearly naked singers shaking everything. We need more famous women for young girls to look up to like that imo- we are not simply here for men to look at!

Laura R

This is the most rogue comment, but your chat about Fearless vault tracks got me thinking... I keep waiting for a You All Over Me/Clean mashup. It works so well that I mayyyybe made one up on my car ride home from work today... You All Over Me V1 You All Over Me Chorus (ends with 'no amount of freedom gets you clean; I've still got you all over me') Clean (like a wine-stained dress I can't wear anymore. Hung my head as I lost the war, and the sky turned black like a perfect storm.) Clean Chorus Clean V2 Clean Prechorus 2 & Chorus You All Over Me (I lived, and I learned. Found out what it was to turn around and see that we were never really meant to be. So I lied, and I cried. And I watched a part of myself die.) Clean (But ten months sober I must admit just because you're clean don't mean you don't miss it)... then the rest of the Clean bridge Clean Chorus to the end of the song (I'm sure Taylor would throw in some offensive You All Over Me adlibs, but I'm not that smart.)

Fede

Thank you for what you said about Taylor not over-sexualizing herself and not catering to male gaze 👏🙏👏🙏 - I have A LOT of feels about that so, seriously, thank you for touching on that 🫶

Nicola Montuori

Hi girls I don’t know if you’ll read this message but I just wanted to say a few words. I’ve been following you for many years and I’ve finally seen taylor this night in Milan. After all this time seeing your reactions in all of the cities and finally watching the one where you react to my night feels emotional. I just wanted to thank you for beautifully being your sweet selves while you get us through this journey with you. Keep going! ❤️

Eric Chaney

Is that an Australian term ? “Jumpers” for what Americans would refer to as sweatshirts ??

Gabrielle Lyons

I love how deep the convos on here get. It's such a safe space for me.😭

Takara

The Katy song is so tone deaf fr idk what she was thinking 😭

Andrew

Wonderland was my number one when I did the ranking through the link yall posted on insta before TTPD released. Can’t explain it, but that song just does something to me every time I hear it

Laura R

I think it's a 'most non-American English-speaking countries' term. I noticed 'jumper' used instead of 'sweatshirt' when I studied abroad in England. (I'm from the US.)

Violet

I'm probably a very rare swiftie that doesn't like Travis at all. To me, Joe will always be her best boyfriend

LindseyMarie

TRAVIS!!!!!!!!!! He’s clearly making her happier than she’s ever been! How can any true Swiftie not be happy about that!?!?! I am a lifelong KC Chiefs fan though and have always loved Trav!! He’s truly so genuine and gives back to kids in his community all the time❤️💛❤️💛❤️💛❤️💛❤️

Mitch hansen

not frightful adam lmaooo its clearly and not even a contest travis although harry is a close second and then sweet tom

K

Tbh, I don't understand the Jack hate, like they are soo good together. Its kinda hard to find someone that gets you and have the kind of relationship they have musically. And even before Jack, Taylor had that specific sound that kinda sound the same but is different at the same time, which i think is normal for singers that produce themselves. We love Jack and if you're jamming to TS songs, how can you say she should not work with Jack, that just doesn't make sense.

TheYo Show

Travis is the best. ♥️💛♥️💛 Also, why don't people complain about who other artists work with repeatedly? I don't get it. Taylor and Jack work so well together that IF she tries something and it didn't work with him, she'd move on for that song or whatever. Gotta trust Taylor's instincts

Beatrix P

I’m glad you touched on the fact Taylor hasn’t sexualised herself in this video, it’s something I’ve always noticed and admired about her. It’s refreshing in this day and age to have a female pop star like this!

ton

I love the Jack songs on Lover, slightly skeptical of the others 😳

Ananya

Exactly. She’s there based on her talent. If that’s not girlbossing then what is.

emir

do we even have to question it? it's travis!!! nobody loved her this publicly 🧡

Niamh

I really don’t like Travis. I don’t get good vibes and I think he’s enjoying benefiting of Taylor’s fame a bit too much for my liking. Could be my own bias that I don’t like PDA either 😂

Niamh

I wholeheartedly agree

Emelie Monberg

I just love to see Taylor’s smile with Travis, she really looks soooooo in love!! And I think they are End Game!! But i miss Mom & Dad (Harry) I think they were right but at the wrong time. If things with Travis would end, god forbid!!, I really wants to see Taylor and Harry again. If a girl can dream… 🫣❤️

Nin Reckermann

loves, can you be more mindful of including us non-binary swifties in your language? thank you!!

Cate

Travis is the best for sure.

seekingoutfriday

This is sort of Tom Hiddleston erasure. Just... She didn't really care about Tom, but he wasn't shy about Taylor.

Nicole

As a girlie raised in a very conservative school/neighborhood, and who grew to discover I'm ace, Taylor not sexualizing herself and her music has always been part of why I clicked dmore with her music than a lot of other popular artists! I was also a People Pleasing Good Girl so I know she and I have had some shared experiences 😂

Taylor

people hate on Jack and in the next breath say Getaway Car is their fav song

Laura Bolanos

I think he’d TTPD dress is perfect! It’s her first heartbreak album after Red which is where we got the glorious lyric of “crumbled up piece of paper” describing the feeling and this shows us what she was feeling.

Miantsa

Re: your comment about a song/concept that is the opposite of The Moment I Knew, I’ve always felt that You Are In Love was exactly that. And that’a actually why I love this song so much, she focuses and highlights those small moments that are simple but say so much. And it’s about both perspectives, about the little things and THE moment when they both fell in love. The song may be inspired by Jack’s previous relationship but I think it represents that concept perfectly!! I think there might be other songs that have that feeling or specific moments highlighted, especially in her very specific/detailed lyrics but yeah. You Are In Love is an OFFENSIVE SONG!!

Jessica Foss

As a non-binary person myself I'm wondering what you mean? I only ask because I feel they use very inclusive language 99.9% of the time

Destiny Murtaugh

Also saying it is a "women's world" and then showing only one body type... 🙄

kenna🪽

people can be so silly sometimes. clearly taylor knows what the hell she’s doing. adding to what you guys said the audacity and egotistic attitudes towards taylor doing this or that with her career are idiots. like who are they to tell THE taylor swift how to be successful?? maybe i’m being stereotypical here but i believe these supposed “swifties” they claim themselves to be are the same “swifties” that have always hopped on the hate train every time it was trendy to hate taylor swift. it is so obnoxious and they should really fathom but daddy i love him because we’re all sick of the bitching and moaning ! anywho sorry about the rant i agree with you guys, i hope jack and taylor continue to create music together since they are talented besties (i think people tend to forget that she loves working with people she feels most comfortable with) and quite frankly everyone should feel comfortable! being in the studio can be very vulnerable! anyone who truly cares for taylor/anyone in the music industry knows that! okay rant over love you guys🤍🤍

ton

She and Calvin were also pretty public it’s just that we forgot he existed 😂

ton

Generally jumper is more sweater than sweatshirt I think ie we have woolly jumpers. It’s English too I’m pretty sure… just the Americans that don’t use it maybe?

ton

Gold

ton

I’d be interested to hear Finneas and Taylor work together. I love his production choices

ton

Well said 👏

Laura Wylie

I saw Gracie Abrams at an acoustic show on this night and it finished musta before surprise song o clock and it was so wholesome bc there was a group of us who didn’t know each other just listening to the surprise songs on the streets outside the venue. Man i love Swifties

Laila

That would be interesting!

kirstie b

THANK YOU FOR GIVING US SO MUCH CONTENT (and my $ worth)

kirstie b

except I do think she got more sexy when 1989 came out, her outfits, etc. I was a little disappointed by that because I thought she might have felt the pressure? because of pop. But I love how she wears dresses and classic things as well. her tour is maybe 65% showing skin. and 35% dresses, covering more. i DO love the Lover bodysuit. she looks so good.

kirstie b

with the Katy Perry thing, she tweeted that “there is something called satire” that’s not the exact quote but something along those lines. But I don’t think people picked that up. Like she’s making fun that women are seeing as sex symbols or something like that. but should not be? I don’t know. I haven’t seen the video yet so maybe I should not comment.

Beatrix P

Yea, I feel like by caparison to other pop stars they trend towards the overly raunchy/soft porn type of sexy whereas Taylor tends to be sexy in a more girly, classic way. Hard to explain but I do think she manages to do it well so that as an audience member you aren’t cringing at a show or watching her videos etc

DeeAnne Herron

Another word for THOSE Swifties is TROLLS. Do not feed them! They are only here to annoy and I never believe those are their true opinions.

epiphany

exactly!! thank you for saying this. we don’t know really anything about what her relationships are like beyond her songwriting, and it’s not really our business to speculate about it.

Al

Though I get what Emm is saying but gotta disagree strongly regarding the sentiment that men can not appreciate TS due to her not overly sexualizing herself as a marketing gimmick. I disagree as I know there are other guys who’ve spent years earning a living whilst being on the road for long durations. Not being able to see her or her videos but only appreciating the music gets to your core in a certain way. I don’t believe every man has to be sexually attracted to woman to understand or appreciate their music/art

Leigh

What gets me with Jack hate too is that no one attributes Lover to him either and he did the majority of that album - there were a couple other producers on some tracks like The Man and You Need to Calm Down and arguably those are the least liked tracks on that album, nearly every track people like on Lover is produced by Jack Antonoff and Lover doesnt sound anything like 1989 or midnights or her other albums so clearly he can produce in a different way when Taylor wants it to be different

Jacinta Palmer

If you guys made a blog post or a separate video on social media discussing your opinions about how much of a trail blazer she really is, and her choices of different sounds over time/work with Jack Antonoff and others, it would be a hit!! I think people just hear things about Taylor and jump on the bandwagon because it's easier than taking the time to research over time what she's done, like what you guys do. So much respect for you girls!

Mikia

Hmmm, not to be too controversial, but I have had some similar thoughts about her continually working with Jack. I certainly wouldn't phrase things the way the "fan" Bonny watched did. And I would preface everything with the acknowledgement that Taylor can and should do whatever the hell she wants. Her music, her version, her choice. We are all just spectators. But, just in terms of relating to artistic endeavors I have worked on, I think you certainly do explore different parts of yourself when you work with different people. Look at the magic we got from her deciding to work with Aaron. And we can all recognize when Jack produces a song. Even if he can transform his production to fit an artist's vision, there is certainly a signature Jack sound. And you can get super comfortable working with the same people where you start to think the same and not challenge each other as much. So I do think that I would be excited to see her choose to collaborate with other producers as well, not just Jack. She can and does explore new facets of herself with Jack, but working with someone entirely new could maybe provide some entirely new inspiration. I think it's a fair hope to have as a fan - to love what she's done with Jack but to also be excited about the prospect of hearing what working with someone else might create. Because she is so good at so many different genres and sounds. I think you can want that as a fan and simultaneously, as a fellow human being, also want her to ignore what everyone thinks and to do what feels right to her. I'm curious what other sounds she has in her, but I also firmly believe she doesn't owe it to anyone to reinvent herself. She should do what keeps making music joyful for her.

Stephanie Stevens

the new fearless dress that's giving jungle/tiger/lion and the lions on the 1989 sets!!!! wonder what it all means

Nin Reckermann

yea no most of the time it's completely fine but they do sometimes say "boys and girls" or "ladies and gentlemen" or stuff like that

Rime

Well put! I couldn't agree more

Tnormy

What do they want her to sound like if she’s “branching out” and “pushing boundaries” ? I feel like all of her eras have a different sound or songs that stand out. What other artist is getting this critique?! Taylor is a trailblazer and 1989 was ahead of its time and is a pop bible. As always, love your input ladies. Hoping I can snag a piece from the symphony collection 🤞🏼

Danielle

Idk I just feel like people don’t say this about most other artists. Reminds me of how Taylor commented on how female artists are expected to constantly reinvent themselves and men are never expected to do that. It’s never even a topic of conversation.

Danielle

And maroon. And august. And cruel summer. And OOTW. And my tears ricochet. Etc etc etc. All that to say, a lot of her top tier songs are produced by JACK. And not to be a hater, but when she ventured with someone different on Lover, we got a lot of her worst produced songs (in my opinion) like the man, YNTCD, ME! or in that same era only the young. Sorry to Joel little, but 🤷‍♀️ Someone new doesn’t always mean someone good like it did with Aaron.

Danielle

I think it probably had more to do with the fact that she was a 25 year old woman, and with her level of success at that time, she finally was allowed to have more say over what she does coming from her Nashville, more conservative roots at her label.

Danielle

I swear people think if there is a synth, that it “sounds the same as every other Jack song”. It’s wild lol

Laura

Frrr! Getaway car, mirror ball, you're losing me, who's afraid of little old me are all produced by Jack on different albums are literally so different I don't get it😭 just enjoy the music she clearly enjoys making pls

Cody

We have and love those shirts. Just bought tickets to Post Malone in October

Jenny MacRunnel

I think for the TTPD dress, it would be cool to do it black with white writing, and pick an anthology song lyrics. I haven't even listened to Katy Perry's new song...I really could care less. I loved Teenage Dream and also I really liked Prism. But its not a long term kind of love, you know what I mean? I heard Dark Horse on the radio not long ago, and had a fun little jam, but she's not on any of my current playlists. Red stan here just living! Loved that mash up!

Dominic Cuomo

Rewatching these and you both mentioned the concept of “The Moment I Knew but happier version” with Travis well there was that one time when Trav surprised Taylor in Dublin night 3 and the Eras party Trav threw fit Taylor to celebrate the tour 🥰🥰🥹🥹

Lison

omg came to the comments section to say this!!!!

Paula

Yall are right travis could never 💍

Paloma Bennett

Travis was the best boyfriend & and now the perfect fiancé for Taylor.