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REACTION: 30 Things I Learned Before Turning 30 - Taylor Swift 💓 (Patreon)

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We're coming at you today with a rogue Lover-era Taylor video, one that we have been wanting to do for so long... Read along with us as we react to Taylor's 2019 Elle article "30 Things I Learned Before Turning 30"!!

We haven't read this since it first came out and we knew we needed to revisit it for some wisdom from Mother!

Do you guys like watching us do random era videos? We definitely have a lot more we want to do so please let us know!

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Mille

LOVE YALL

Katie LaFave

please do more lover era videos!!! it was a short era with soooo much content

Mayra

Needed some Tay tea today

Katie LaFave

please watch all of taylor's snl performances

Lia

My day has been saved!💞

Katie LaFave

you guys HAVE to watch taylor's woman of the decade speech!!!

Katie LaFave

please watch taylor's artist of the decade performance and speech where Carole King introduces her!!!

Jonna Kristina

oooh this looks like fun! definitely into the idea of more random era stuff, would love to have a video to you reacting to every taylor thing possible😅❤️

Kristen Batye

Just in time, I turn 30 later this year ❤️🎂

Alex Parra

I love the miscellaneous Taylor videos! If you guys liked this article, I would also recommend the Rolling Stone cover articles she did, like the 1989 era one you read! She has ones from 2012 and 2019, both with Brian Hiatt, that are really insightful and offensive reads!

Katie LaFave

Em are you finally growing out your hair again cuz LOVEEEE

Katie LaFave

love ur shirt and just your whole look in this vid Em!!!

Gustav Lucas

Immediately cancelled tonight’s plans of rewatching Bridget Jones’ Diary to watch this video!!

Katie LaFave

it's so crazy cuz taylor probably wrote so high school after her and trav had only been dating for a few months!!!

Léa

Yaaay !! I LOVE rogue videos 🥰 Would love if you watch back some Lover Era interviews !

DemiMarie🤍🖤

Just got done work. So thanks ladies!! Glass of wine and a Chats & Reacts video it is...🍷🫶🏻

DemiMarie🤍🖤

"No one's ever had me, not like you" is such an illegal lyric🤌🏻

C

Can't watch this until later but loooove (chatty) random era videos <3

Katie LaFave

it's funny that lover is referred to as taylor's flop era when it's her most streamed album

chel

omggg i was literally just checking patreon to see if anything had been uploaded, what good timing!!!!!

ellsbells

Guysss have you ever reacted to Taylor’s performance of Will you still love me tomorrow when she inducted Carole king into the rock and roll hall of fame??? It’s so offensive

V. Babida

Nearly two hours of rogue Tay content from my fave Aussie ladies? What an absolute treat!!!! These rogue videos are literally my favorite!

DemiMarie🤍🖤

Special shout out to the "Lover" album for bringing you chickens to us 🥹🫶🏻

Giel

i would love for you girlies to do a small revisit of the lover album post-TTPD (like you did with midnights, and hopefully also will with folkmore) and do a bigger revisit after you have finished the Reputation TV era whenever thats released, so you can revisit lover with the information/tea that is called the Rep TV vault songs~

Marissa Killpack

I’m turning 30 at the end of the month! This is like an early birthday present!!!

Nele

As someone who is turning 29 in a few days, this is perfect!!! Give me that wisdom

Kiki

I would love for you to re-fathom Lover, folklore & evermore only after she drops rep TV. Because the vault tracks and prologue will surely give us so much more insight, we won't be ready for it

Poke1855

At first I thought this was going to be a video about you two. What you two have learned before turning 30. Also please react to Sabrina Carpenter Short n Sweet Deluxe

All Too Melissa

Wow this is amazing timing, I turn 30 in May and have been doing a lot of fathoming and reflecting of life lessons! Thank you for the video, girlies 💕

chel

this might be the most random thing ive ever commented but i am absolutely obsessed with your drinking glasses lmao, i would love to know where they are from?

sophie

OFC WE LIKE A ROGUE VIDEO

Eevaliisa H.

I just turned 30 on the 11th :¨¨) need some wisdom

Brenda1989

Girls, she was “cancelled” in 2016!! That’s why she needed to make all those drinks lol

Patty Minor

2016 Trump became President and we all needed a drink(s)

Becky Tucker

Is there somewhere we can watch the panel you were on??

Katie LaFave

2016... the kayne phone call

Amelie

random era era please!!

✨Bri✨

Your timing is impeccable as I am going to turn 30 in about a week!! ♥️🫶

Nele

I just randomly need to comment that Taylor put Maroon on her depression playlist and Labyrinth on acceptance and Sweet nothing on delusion in the "5 stages of grief" playlists that she created during the TTPD promo. Don't know why my brain decided to remind me of these playlists today but Taylor really did something by categorizing her past songs in this way.

Kiki

It's fascinating that so many people consider Lover her flop era ... It literally was the best selling album of 2019 worldwide. To spew some numbers for the US, it debuted with 867k (679k pure) and outsold the rest of the Billboard 200 chart combined! If we exclude Taylor, no other artist - not even Adele - has reached those numbers since then ... The last time was Adele with her album 25 which was released in 2015

Varsha Mohan

Emily I looooove your dress where is it from? 😍

Darya 🤍

Girls you need to try Billie razors! You order them online and they’re so cheap and soooo good! And it’s so funny hearing you guys complain about the price of razors because like facts but also there’s thousands of us here (deservingly) so I would think you guys could afford them! 😂

Ava Demassio

babes idk what's up in Australia but a pack of 6 razor heads is like maybe $15-$20 on Amazon?? not too bad

Sara Kunce

Also yes, we love the random era revisit videos 🫶

Lish Marie

I think the 2016 thing was a nod to the Kimye phone call situation and the summer of 2016 being "the apocalypse" (her words in the Lover diaries) She's probably nodding to the fact that she needed to drink a lot in 2016 to get through it lol

Ellie

Watching this 4 days after I turned 30 is actually really magical! Thank you so much for providing me with what I had no clue I needed!!

Anna Mehrbilder

I love love love when you talk about taylor swift. I love the youtube "classes" where I get educated (and entertained) about her songs and I LOOOOVE the rogue random whatever everything videos here on patreon. I dont care for fashion. you talking about taylors clothes - wonderful. and this goes for all. and because I am a newer swiftie, I dont know most of the older stuff, so this is always a delight, and surprising and I love your insights and everything.

Sanya Sharma

AHHH SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS thank you queens!!! Love such videos would love to see your reaction to Taylor’s tiny desk NPR video 🫶🏽🫶🏽

Emmy

Happy late Bday 🎂 🥳

Bella

No besties you ABSOLUTELY had a hand in people fathoming Taylor - I was definitely a Taylor skeptic previously but had followed Bonny for years. Have been a Swiftie since watching your ATW10 reaction 💕

Becky Tucker

Razors are awful and expensive in the US as well!!!!

Katie LaFave

i think TS12 will be an overall “happy” album & it will be her happiest, but there will be some unhappy songs as well

SomDrum

Nearly 2 hours of chit chat (and react)? Sign me up immediately.

Leah Rose

Your description of the Lover era when addressing the fear she had of no longer being in the spotlight is I think exactly why I felt so put off by many of the eras aesthetics. There were a lot of juvenile tactics used, this aggressive overly youthful projection in the ME! music video and even in the song itself. So many of Lover's songs have mature themes but there are so many that feel beneath Taylor in terms of the immaturity. Some of her live performances too just didn't feel authentic Taylor to me. The majority of that album feels so authentic, so it's interesting to me that the branding felt really forced in a lot of ways.

SomDrum

Also Bonny, can you please drop the deets on your lip color? It's goooorgeous

Ally ❤️

Why do your razors cost so much ????? 😳

Katie K

Yay!! Lover Era! So happy to have a lovely joyful Taylor related video with you girls to watch right now. It’s just what I needed. Love you girlies 🩷🩷🩷

Katie LaFave

what about labyrinth & sweet nothing… there’s happiness in those songs!! i also do think karma is a happy song overall!! so is the alchemy

Jess Brumby

2016 was the year of her downfall!! She made all those cocktails to drink as a way of coping whilst staying at home 😂❤️

Mads

The digression about razor heads is killing meeee😂ya'll are so right !! And can confirm they are also extremely expensive in the US😭

Kristin Lohr

I think you two doing your own version of this would be AMAZING. After listening to this whole thing and your personal commentary I feel like it’s time! You had a q&a early on in the patreon, but I feel like another refresher about your own very unique journeys in this online world would be awesome!! (I say this as a person who walked away from a pretty successful insta following when I felt I could no longer “influence” in a way that felt aligned with the audience I grew and it’s such a weird experience)

Katie LaFave

TTPD is fs her saddest album which is what will be so so exciting about TS12

Adolfo Ocadiz

LMAO guys 2016 is a reference to the Trump win 😭😭😭😭

Renée

aw I was almost bang on time with this but I was half way through the midnughtd

Renée

*midnights refathoming which I'm loving the fight over maroon is wild haha

Anna Mehrbilder

she learned to make cocktails herself in 2016 because she didnt go out anymore after snackgate - that was summer 2016 (july). so if she wanted a drink, she had to make it herself.. :-(

Aubrey McMichael

still hoping you guys will react to the secret session vids and the album secret messages 🫶🏼🫶🏼

Ramon❀°。

GIRLS👏🏻 GET👏🏻ON👏🏻DOLLAR👏🏻SHAVE👏🏻CLUB. The best razors

💯

“Snackgate”. Love it 🍿

leslie griffin

Oh my gosh Em, you look so beautiful today. You look like Sandy from Grease, little Olivia moment.

Katie LaFave

i think taylor's natural hair right now is wavy... not straight, but also not curly

Mads

I think when Taylor said "because 2016" she was referring to Mojitos bc they were super trendy at that time!

Katie LaFave

i think if taylor has kids she will absolutely continue to make/release music, but she my not tour as much

Holly

Sooo do we need a cooking segment making those 3 dishes

Sabina Vitola

GIRLIES WHAT DO YOU MEAAAAAN—the #taylorswiftisoverparty happened it 2016, the Kanye call, the snakes—THE MOST CATACLYSMIC TS MOMENTS HAPPENED IN 2016 AND THATS WHY SHE WAS DRINKING HOW WAS THIS NOT OBVI (I say with love 🫶🏽lmao)

Aubrey McMichael

i believe it’s been said that most of taylor’s bodyguards are ex military/cia that type of thing

Staci DaSilva

2016 = Trump win and Taylor being canceled.

maya zutra

Fuck misogyny 30’s are the hottest thing ever 🔥🔥🔥 Need Taylor to drop the lessons of 30 ASAP

TScout

Have to point out that you ladies did a bit of Getaway Car erasure! Tom Hiddleston will always have Getaway Car as a song, but I agree with you ladies that Midnight Rain ☔️ is about him too. And he deserves at least 2 songs. 💙

TScout

Her top is so pretty. 😍 And she might not be body moisturizing, but she looks aglow! 😂

Aubrey McMichael

bonny completely forgetting that getaway car is about tom 😭

TScout

Thanks for always brightening my day with your adorable chicken antics! Your commentaries always bring me cheer and comfort. 💛🐣💖🐣💛

Aubrey McMichael

we need a full bleachella looks ranking vid!

TScout

I have found the work around for the cost of razors 🪒… laser hair removal. A lot of cost upfront, but never having to worry about stubble or razor burn ever again? Priceless. 😌

sarah

love the silver in this video emilyyyyyyyyyyuh

Carson McDonald

lmao the silver lining fathoming wait you are just two precious chickens!! 😆🥹

anna

I think the 2016 cocktail reference is about her getting cancelled and leaning on alcohol maybe. Kind of like how she said getting canceled gave her an excellent knowledge of wine lol

Alexis

In regards to the Tom Hiddleston and Taylor Lautner songs, I will continue to believe that I Can See You is a Taylor Lautner song rather than a John Mayer song. Let me live in fantasy. 🙂‍↕️

Vero Alló

I love the shaving rant 😆

Neve

no because I think I'm literally a Taylor Swift fan because of you guys, I've always loved her but NEVER on this level. From the bottom of my heart thank you for that because wow my life is so much better with you two and her so deeply intertwined in it!!!!

Cordelia De Luna

I'm pretty sure the 2016 thing in lesson 9 is referring to how she got canceled and started drinking a lot more heavily. I remember in her doctorate grad speech, she mentioned get a lot more accustomed to wine from being hated from everyone on the internet. I don't remember the exact quote but it's something like that

Jenna Bolmgren

Same! Best investment ever! I have a few wispy strays that catch the sunlight, but I haven’t fully shaved in BUSINESS MONTHS. 🙌

Jenna Bolmgren

Magnesium glycinate is what you want to get fyi. Most magnesium supplements are going to be beneficial but most people will find benefit from the glycinate variety. I’m not a doctor but I read that on the internet somewhere so it must be true 😆

LindseyMarie

Oh my gosh, what a fun video!! I absolutely love this office chat and fathoming of this article! I love you chatting about the songs you’re gravitating to now, the Lover and Rep discussions, relating Taylor’s comments and wisdom to your own life and to where Taylor is now, and omg, YES to the rant about razors, just one more reason to Fuck The Patriarchy!😂🫶🫶

heather

yess more vids like this!

Mex

i picture "no one's ever had me, not like you" in two ways - that taylor has never fully let herself trust in a relationship in this way, but also i somehow can envision travis always saying, "i gotchu, tay" and she realizes that he actually does. from getting her car door, to flying around the world to be with her, he's proving to her that he treasures her. it seems like he's the guy who is actually going to live up to the "you must like me for me" line

Sam

As an American YES RAZORS ARE SO EXPENSIVE AND FOR WHAT

Jane

lol 2016, she's definitely referring to her getting canceled and the whole drama of it. girlie needed some alcohol to help deal

Willow

Guys please start a weekly podcast i would die

Tess7

Loved this video! I’ve read this article many times, but there’s something about being seated while Emily reads to us and Bonny gives her thoughts on it 😊 I remember when Lover came out, I thought it was a great concept. The different kinds of love you experience, not just with a partner. Soon You’ll Get Better was so relatable to me. “Holy orange bottles” I understood that line so well. I lost my dad and then my mom 5 years later. My mom was harder because she got sick and was gone within 5 months. I sat in the hospital with her every day the last month. I would go to my car every few hours for a break. I would listen to 3 songs then go back in. (Lover was not out yet) I played songs from my iPod. To this day, those songs have a special place in my memory. Taylor is right, when someone you love is sick, you quickly learn what is important in life. Problems that you thought were earth shattering, become insignificant compared to the fear of losing someone you know you can’t live without. It makes me happy whenever I see Taylor with her mom and dad. Terrific video ladies 🫶😊

sydney

Love this chatty vibe. You girls are the best I could listen to you talk forever

angel (plnkblue)

Beyond just the environment, I wonder if the process of growing her hair out after the Bleachella moment also impacted her hair changing texture and becoming straighter around this time. Bleach can do a number on your hair, and the process of growing it back out into something fully healthy can take a long while. So with all of those factors in mind, it doesn't surprise me that it took until recently for the curls and waves to start bouncing back, and even then at a much subtler level than how they were in her teens.

Willow

Also I think one of my favourite types of videos that you guys do is reading articles and fathoming. Your opinions are sooo wise and appreciated just like listening to Taylor’s thoughts and opinions

MJ

In addition to what everyone has said about 2016, I also wonder if she mentions this because in the 2016 Vogue 73 questions video she says her favourite “cocktail” is vodka Diet Coke which is really not a cocktail… so she learnt how to make some easy cocktails since then?! It was necessary!

Sydney

Girlies switch to mens razors! Saves money and works just as well if not better!!

Savvy

Men’s razors saved my life. Also why are razors gendered in the first place 💀

Sydney

Pink tax at its finest

Savvy

This was a superior reaction lol. I loved all of the mini tangents as well. Love you guys 💗

Megan W

The shaving rant is what I needed!

Lan

The Razor heads thing is so crazy! Lucky in China and Singapore we are not so concerned about removing the hair on our legs and arms. I actuallly always wondered if we can just shave our legs with electric shaver that man use to shave their beard? The cost per use seems to be lower than the razor...

Tanya

Politics for sure

MJ

Also loved your silver lining visualisation moment ☁️

the mother lake

bonny shedding actual tears over the rep tour intro is so so so so so real

Hayden Brice

Labyrinth feels like a panic attack to me lmao - falling in love isn't a thing she's ready for in that song. She's not falling head first fearless, she's falling filled with fear Sweet Nothing is pretty contentious with a lot of people. He didn't want anything from her is a double edged sword. It means he wasn't using her, but it also means he didn't particularly care for what she had to give

Katie LaFave

with labyrinth in the chorus there’s definitely fear about falling in love, but as the chorus goes on, I think that fear turns into like a positive thing that she’s falling in love… potentially with Matty Healy! as for sweet nothing I will always look at it as a positive happy love song

Katie LaFave

i also feel like snow on the beach is a happy song! taylor said herself that it's about that moment when you realized that you and your partner are falling in love at the same time.. it's weird, but also beautiful! also glitch!!! yes there’s a negative part to it where like she thought the relationship wasn’t going last very long, but overall I think it’s a positive/happy song!!

Katie LaFave

omg & midnight rain! yes Taylor is talking about herself negatively referring to herself as midnight rain, but the way she’s talking about the guy is very positive!!! midnight rain is like in the middle in my opinion in terms of happy and sad! same with bejeweled cuz the chorus & most of the bridge are happy

farah abed

guys the 2016 thing is her saying she learnt how to make so many drinks cause she was drinking a lot when she was cancelled by the world and stayed indoors for that whole year basically 😂 so she turned to drinking 🥲 especially the way she said ‘because… 2016). It’s like ‘…yeah i don’t need to say more, you know what that year was for me’ 🫠🫠🥲💔

Clare

2016 - US Election!!!!!!!!!!!

jordan bertges

i think it's so funny emily said summer 2016 was a great time bc taylor literally says the exact opposite in the lover diaries when she says "this summer is the apocalypse"

Lia

Number two reminds me of what she says in mad woman!!! ‘Does a scorpion sting when fighting back?’

Aloha Record Sargent

2016 she got canceled but also, it was the year that Trump won the Presidential election against Hillary Clinton. A rough year all the way around, thus, a need for cocktails.

Andrea

bold of you to even doubt we won't love this, ROGUE CONTENT IS MY FAV hahah

Kirsten

Straightening your hair long term can destroy your curls or waves. She probably spent the time to repair the bonds of her hair. I had to do the same thing as a victim of the straight hair 2000s.

Sarah

Girlies - Trump was elected in 2016 😬

E ✨🩷

apt video because I’m turning 30 in July!! 🩷✨

brenda 🌸

THE SILVER LINING FATHOMING WAS SO CUTE!!!!! I also never knew that was the meaning?! its so precious 😭😭

Andrea

I think the 2016 thing is pointing at how she didn't leave the house much bc that's when her reputation crumbled, and she had to learn how to do all the cocktails to be able to host parties and not go out to be able to drink them

Nina R.

I‘m sick at the moment and this video was the perfect start in my day ♥️ greetings from Germany

Marietta Sophie

that's what I thought of too! I think that could be the reason she needed to learn how to drown her sorrows in a delicious way haha

Mina Maras

I don't understand how you didn't get the 2016 comment - and got it in the totally opposite way hahahhahahaha

Melanie Turrano

2016 in America was Trump. Here in America we have beer glasses that say "Because Trump"

ton

I love this random jump into an era… thanks so much

ton

I’m sure others have mentioned it but she didn’t play Clean at the 1 yr anniversary. It was just edited to appear that way in Miss Americana.

ton

2016… summer of the apocalypse… cocktails to get through it

Freya 🫶🏻

totally unrelated but i cant wait for your lana breakdowns! with btd, cotcc and bb 🍂

Anni

loved this :) Thank you for doing everything you do. we might all be taylors children but i also feel like you're my moms <3 (I'm 32 but that doesn't change a thing)

Lefty

Yes! Do ALL the random era reactions! You don’t have a collection yet for Folklore yet so it would be nice to see you start to make one! I think starting an uncut watch of Long Pond sessions might be nice, and for a small one there’s a performance of Betty she did ar the ACM awards that I would love to see you put on here 😊

Lindsay

2 hoursssss 🙌🏼 Just what I need while I’m on my sick bed. Thank you girlieeees 💖

Lan

And LOOOOVE emily's silver ear rings! You look gorgeous with them✨✨✨

Vera

Love love LOVED this!! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and wisdom with us, I'm in awe of you. And also, you both look so pretty in this video!!

ton

I changed from shaving to depilator like Veet…. Trust me, much better than shaving

C

Watching you guys talk about the cover for Rep, and what should be included in TV, made me think how cool it would be to have the font look like social media comments rather than newspaper articles

Marina Lozano

Babes London is one of the most humid places ever😂 it has nothing to do with heat. It's currently 2°C and humidity is at 86%😭 in the summer it gets much worse but this city is always humid

ton

She sang Clean on July 21st cos it was raining, the sexual assault anniversary speech was the show on August 14th but I love the editing them together in Miss Americana even if it’s poetic license that people now think is real

claudia jones

Yes… I literally fathomed that we have never had a fully 100% happy/love album and I’m so curious what she will explore in TS12 xx

Courtney D

The wonderful thing about Taylor is that she seems like someone who would give great advice and be super supportive in a non-judgemental way, kind of what we all want in a good friend. I heard an interview with Jason where he talked about his favorite thing about Travis was that he had "great intuition," that he has helped Jason a lot during his career when he struggled with a tough situation/decision. I think Travis and Taylor both try hard to be a supportive person ("good teammate") to those around them. I loved this videos fathoming of the So High School lyric, "no one's ever had me, not like you." I never thought of it like that, but now I always will! He's got her back!

ton

I love how Taylor went from her childhood trauma response to “embrace the cringe” in her doctoral speech

G.V._elle

Regarding what you said at the beginning about lover album and your videos on youtube, I just want to say that you 2 are the reason I listen to Taylor, and because of your commentary, explanations and passion for the songs she is now my number one artist on spotify. ❤️ I am only one year older than Taylor but before I've discovered your channel I have never gave her a proper chance, I only new some of her hits from radio which they were ok, but didn't grab me like other songs from her albums, but now I love all of her songs. So thank you guys for what are you doing! Love you!🫶 Can't wait to watch the rest of the video.🤩

Jasmin Luetke Laxen

Would really love for you guys to react to Alessia Cara‘s new Album Love & Hyperbole and also Griff, who opened for Taylor in London 🥰💕

Meghan Raap

"283 years" does equal 13, but it also was an easter egg for lover's release date, august (8) 23rd 💕

ton

Hope you feel better soon

ton

Tess, I’m glad you were able to get that time to support your Mum but sorry you had to go through it. That song is also linked to my Mum passing from cancer for me when it came out later. It’s so cathartic and catches the emotion beautifully.

Jade

I’m here for any and all Taylor content, and while I’m fully engaged with and enchanted by the two of you, I have to confess I rarely watch content that isn’t Taylor-related. Not bc I don’t want to watch you, but my preferences just don’t lie with other artists, for the most part right now. I say all of that to say, I AM a supporter of you and your channel, and I will watch all of your content just to feel like I’m hanging out with you. But…. Any and all Taylor fathomings and refathomings are most welcome.

Mia Gregorio

can’t wait for more taylor random videos!! there’s so much fun content for you guys to react to 🥰👏🏻

ton

So excited to watch Rep tour with you guys. I do associate it far more with the snake emojis and social media cancellation than the magazine headlines so hope the reclaimed snake could be on the TV… hadn’t thought about that til now

Drey Szabó

Guys just started but going to press pause for a sec to say, when I open your videos I feel like I’m sitting down for a good chat with a friend. Honestly, it makes me feel so good. Thank you for doing this, for being part of our lives, and for being all of our friends.

Kendall

The 2016 reference is definitely not a positive one - I think she is referencing having to drink because of the Trump election. Something to do to keep her mind off of that dreadful man.

Amelie

i think the 2016 thing means because the was the year she wasn't seen and spent her time at home with joe, so she had to learn how to make cocktails because she didn't want to go out and be seen by the public to drink???

Drey Szabó

2016 - she learnt how to make those drinks to cope with the cancellation, essentially saying that’s when her functioning alcoholism started, I think :(

Geneva

GUYS. How dare you bahahahahaha. 2016 is the year she was canceled and retreated from the world. She learned how to make drinks to cope with being rejected from the entire world.

Geneva

Wait also, Getaway Car is about Tom Hiddleston too lmao what are you guys talking about 🤣

Alexandra Bennett

Loved this video!!!!! Also the rant about razors was so validating lol

Esmithh

love love love this video! as a 28 year old woman, hearing Taylor’s perspective of life going into 30 was reassuring and loved you guys’ take on it too 💕 more random Taylor content pleaseeee 🥰🥰🥰

K

Since you mentioned it at the beginning. I can honestly say that I have become a fan of Taylor’s because of you, I listened to debut and fearless, stopped and only got back into her music during folklore because I was watching Bonny’s channel and then stumbled across your chats and reacts content.

L

The conversation around happiness made me think of Brene Brown’s book, “Atlas of the Heart”. She breaks down accurately naming how we’re feeling. And names “Places we go when life is good”- Joy, Happiness, Calm, Contentment, Gratitude, Foreboding Joy, Relief, Tranquility… It’s a great read and breaks down labeling different emotions as a way to better understand our feelings and process. I think Taylor’s work is so good because it gets to those more nuanced feelings that go beyond the labels of happy or sad.

Dixchha

I'm here for the razor heads rant

Michele Graziani

I have 2 daughters that grew up on Taylor Swift, which is where my interest in her began. As you mentioned, I am a fan that stumbled upon one of your YouTube videos which provided me some of the best TS lore and song breakdowns. I joined your Patreon and wait with baited breath for your videos. I lived through the Eras tour with you, as I could not attend. Thanks for all you do 💕

Amy Versprille

Love the fun content. Also - I want to know if she has rep tv countdown or countdown to fall

Linda

Wait!! Is Bejeweled not a happy song on Midnights?!?

Alexia 🫶🏻

As someone that is turning 29 this August, I must watch this haha

Micah

2016! The year everyone hated her and she went into hiding and had to learn how to make her own cocktails because she wasn’t going out!

Katie K

2016 is a reference to the ‘summer of the apocalypse’ surely? The Kanye phone call and cancellation. I guess she didn’t want to go out into bars so learned to make her own cocktails at home.

Carly

YESSSS! Please more videos about the Lover Era! Including a very long album re-fathoming and possibly song-by-song breakdown. And reactions to music videos, easter egging, performances, etc. It's my favorite album.

Katie K

No the razor rant got me because YESSS!! It’s so bloody expensive to be a woman! Shaving, skincare, make up ALL ridiculous prices and don’t even get me started on period related products.

Mavi💖

So fun! I love this kind of content 💖

Amy Versprille

I also love this content. Also - as a mom - I would love to hear her take. To hear a Taylor song written from the perspective of a mom with a terrible 2’s toddler or a sassy teenager would be validating and I would love to hear what she says on the topic. 😂 not to say she needs to have kids - but Beyoncé still releases music with kids

Mads

I really appreciate the discussion regarding Taylor choosing to have kids or not have kids. I see so many comments saying "I can't wait for her and Travis to get married and have kids". I totally agree with Bonny that people are projecting their own life goals or experiences on to her. I just find those comments so dismissive of all of her accomplishments and hard work and who she is as an individual.

Sophie

I love rogue videos!! There is so much Taylor content out there for you guys to explore! :)) (I definitely think the year 2016 is synonymous with Trump for most Americans, so even though it's also the year she got cancelled, by referencing the number by itself I think she's more likely referring to Trump's election.)

Katie K

Thank you so much for the silver linings fathoming! I now really need Taylor to write a silver linings song

Dominic Cuomo

I’m also curious what events she’ll reference in TS12 like Argentina, Singapore, Super Bowl, maybe even when Trav surprised her in Dublin N3

Sophie

The silver jewellery looks so good Emily!

Ivy

Omg thank you I thought I was going crazy 😂

Elias

Getting to listen to this six months before i turn 30 makes it hit different 😭😭 thank you girls

Geneva

I feel like that could date it though!

Geneva

Bahahahaha same I was like girls WHAT

Rick

taylor made a easter egg with afterglow on the 12th one

Rick

on the rep tour even when had rain shows her hair was straight

Karen Valentino

This was fantastic! I loved the wide ranging discussion and learned so much about Taylor from it. (Hah! She seemed to briefly forget some of her life lessons when she decided to love Matty!) I loved listening to you two discover stuff real time (silver linings! ☁️) and I loved the way you process information together in uncharted territory, your flow of talking and listening to each other. For me this was a super fun video. ❤️

Karen Valentino

It’s uptempo for sure, and she’s flexing her power, but it’s not a happy song because she’s having to remind her BF that she can forget him if he doesn’t start making her a priority. Nobody likes to be ignored.

Karen Valentino

Yep, I live on the Monterey Peninsula and the air tends to be wonderfully cool and crisp, and the average relative humidity here is 75%.

Karen Valentino

So, so sorry about your parents, Tess. Mine are gone too, my dad of leukemia, and sometimes I miss them terribly.

Megan Zegveldt

There is something so wholesome about the way you guys can talk about Taylor’s looks and pictures of her, ones you really dislike but you always reiterate how beautiful she is and clarify that to us. It’s so sweet 😭

Jackie Weiss

American here 🙋🏻‍♀️ I use Billie razors and get a 4 pack of refill blades for $10. What is happening over in Australia!!!

Brynna Scarbrough

IM HERE TO REPORT THAT RAZORS ARE FUCKED IN AMERICA TOO 🤬🤬😤

Niamh Morgan

Just thinking about the silver linings realisation, the original saying is "every cloud has it's silver lining" so it probably makes more sense in that context but loved the video

Rick

exactly!!! these are some of her best interviews

GigiLou

This was so fun; I enjoyed this so much! Thanks for the conversation at the end, also. People get so weird fantasizing about Taylor having kids and "disappearing for years". Like why would that be appealing to you as a fan?! Also, what about this super ambitious, career-driven woman makes you think she wouldn't or couldn't continue to have a thriving career with kids?! People would never say that about a man - don't make her write another song about this haha. Sometimes I think people have lost their minds, and I appreciate your level-headedness!

Rick

yess there’s so much content

Rick

completely agree

Kyle Manzo

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE react to short n sweet deluxe

Mary Moore Nelson

Yall should read and react to her 2019 rolling stone interview!!!

Rick

it’s amazing

Cowboy Like Evaaannn!!

I think with the Billie and Finneas game, Lover was such a fear with no fart

Sam

Loved this video. Thanks, girls. Also, biggest lol to Bonny calling out her internet narcissist *cough*durianrider*cough* - that took me out! God, that was a wild time on the internet. Love that you’re thriving and his abusive ass is totally irrelevant. 👏

Mary Moore Nelson

2016 was the "this summer is the apocolypse" thing where all things went to sh*t with the Kim/Kanye phone call.... she needed some alcohollll

Cowboy Like Evaaannn!!

Every few minutes I’d look at the background where the photo of you two at the eras tour looks like Bonny is chewing on a fabulous leaf 🦒🦒🦒💚💚

Annie

Your early videos made me love Taylor! I was watching Bonny’s channel first and have watched since the lover video. Love you two ❤️

lane ♡︎

No razors are insanely expensive. I went to Walgreens and a four pack I’m not even exaggerating were $42 in the US!!! At least it’s winter 80% of the year where I am. Only way I save money

Beth

I’ve used a safety razor (ever eco) for 8 years and honestly, id never go back. The blades last forever, are insanely cheap and no plastic! I’ve also never had to replace my original razor so even more $$$ benefits. Definitely have to get used to it (fresh blades are sharp!!) but once you do you just don’t even think about going back.

Kaitlin Hilton

along the lines of a reusable razor like others have suggested, Leaf razor is amazing. I bought a pack of blades in 2020 and still have more left. I use the single blade razor, highly suggest! Also, her hair was helluh damaged during this era, probably why she lost her curl pattern.

Brooke Dean

I was really intrigued by the thought of her “happy” songs! I’d love for you to categorize Taylor’s discography in emotions such as happy, sad, angry, and indifferent!

Lia

In italy we use wax or laser , it’s a bit more expensive but it lasts longer

sofie sandrini

I started watching you because I was so stressed no one fathomed her. (I live in Denmark - there haven’t been a lot of swifties here before 2023/folkore - and have listened to her my whole life but never been a Swiftie, so my life changed when I watched the Reputation tour on Netflix in 2019, I literally watched my whole universe puzzle itself that evening watching her. I will never be able to explain…)

DeeAnne Herron

What a fun chat! I'm glad to know that I'm not the only who uses a countdown app.

Pixie

2016 being the year she got cancelled, Taylor Swift is over party and all that crap, I think she meant she used alcohol as coping mechanism of some sort

Abby

with the point about her drinking where she says because 2016, i'm pretty sure she means she was drinking to get through the rough times of that year when everyone hated her!

Erica Reynolds

2016 = the year Trump was elected the first time (also when she was cancelled)

Katinka Meyers

You really should give the reusable razor another chance, when you get used to it you would never go back!! I use the bambaw safety razor but I'm from Europe so I don't know if you have that brand in Australia...it's around 26 euros and then around 17 euros for 100 blades that last forever!! ❣️

natis_georce13

omg this was such a good video. Taylor is so so inspiring and that's why i look up to her so much, but I also loved your discussions. love it!

Jazzyg

I’ve followed you Bonny since the very early vegan days and glad to see you both happy healthy and thriving since that crazy internet time. Really enjoyed your insightful reflections ❤️

Grishaa

omg yesss!! make little playlists and chat about every song

Jule

Loved this!! So many fellow 1995 babies in the comments, I’m turning 30 in April and this made me FATHOM some things

Lynn

Who has cut Taylor off after they got fame exactly?

Cristina

It's illegal how good of a metaphor the snake turned out to be for her...do you ever wonder if she was being called a hedgehog or something...how (not if) would she have turned that around into an iconic thing

Jessikah

The shaving rant 👏 👏 I would really recommend trying an epilator - electric and lasts a long time. Game changer!

Caroline Turner

Hey guys! Razor girlie help - I have an estrid subscription. They are amazing and it is 12 pounds for a month worth! They are the BEST razors. You keep the razor handle and they are so cute.

Tess7

Thank you ton - it is hard losing our parents. Love to you bestie 🫶

Tess7

I’m sorry about your parents too 🫶 hold on to the memories 💕

Tess7

I agree Mex :)

Jenna

Girlies I love you but NY IS HUMID!!!!! In the summer it is absolutely BRUTAL here. Its because we are near the water!!

Chelsea Brown

The 2016 reference is about Trump beating Hilary Clinton in the 2016 election . She is alluding to needing multiple drinks to deal with the awful political climate during that time. And introducing her more political active era with Lover and the Miss Americana doc.

Laura

$50 for razors is SUCH a rip off. SO wrong. You should hit one of us up to be your razor dealer in the US. We'll set you up.

Riley Bidwell

I took the 2016 reference to the k*nye phone call incident and her getting cancelled.

Rachel McFadyen

My thoughts on 'no ones ever had me' - like the rest of the song, it's deep in the high school metaphor. So literally it would be telling your HS sweetheart no ones ever HAD me, ie I'm a virgin. But in the context of her and Travis it means so much more!! So clever

Cinetati

What do you mean we don't have a Tom song? What about Getaway car? Also pretty sure Endgame is about him and I even wonder if Tom didn’t say it to her when they started dating and give her the idea... I'm with Bonny on him too. I met him once and he was perfect!!

Cinetati

I stopped shaving and don't have any issues anymore XD

Robyn Baillie

was anyone else screaming GETAWAY CAR hahaha

Jessi Dees

How do people not think Getaway car isn't about Tom/Taylor/Joe? I've ALWAYS thought that was Tom's song, and I was good with that because Getaway car is a BANGER!

Laura

"I never trust a narcissist, but they love me". Kanye IS the biggest narcissist on the planet, as well as Trump and Elon. They have all attacked her on social media. She's so right.

Marisa

New York is one of the most hot and humid places on planet earth in the summer!

Daphne

The "because 2016" thing was definitely a negative thing because that's the year Trump first got elected here in the states. Summer 2016 may have been heaven but the fall was absolute hell

Madison Sturdevant

Can we please get a 3 part dinner party series where you guys make the 3 recipes she mentioned?? Maybe even paired with the drinks she brought up?? We could even do a little cook-along??

Kim

Emily, silver really looks so good with your skin tone omg

Lucie S

I had the best time with you guys ! I love when you have discussions like this and different topics come up, its very fun and interesting, as well as super cozy <3

Mariana

Ahahah loved the shaving conversation!! I'm pretty sure that Taylor already went through the laser hair removal route ahaha You should try it! It's expensive but so worth it, I can stay for MONTHS without having to put a razor in my body

Joy Dukuly

I think a good idea for a video would be you guys reacting to the 2 episode Taylor vs Scooter documentary on HBO max if you haven’t already seen it. I found it really interesting and I love to know your opinions about it♥️

💯

The jumpscare haunting photo is still there!!!! My mental health jkjk. I feel lonely at times and these chat videos are such a blessing. Thank you lovely women!!!

Erika B

I definitely think the “because 2016” is when the edited phone call was posted by Kim… I think she’s saying she learned to make cocktails because she was using alcohol as a coping mechanism

isabel

the razor rant is so true bc i FEEEL

Caitlin Bell

L-theanine is in matcha Bonny! So you’re getting it already :)

isabel

i learned so much i will watch this so often i already know LOL

Abbi Clark

Seeing you two freak out over the origin of “silver linings” was so cute 🥹

Takara

Taylor writing albums in her 40s as a child free woman would be so iconic! As someone who is not having children I would very much appreciate that perspective, as you said it’s not one we get often. Of course whatever she decides is right for her she’ll continue to make iconic music and I’ll be here for it 💞

jennie

I just wanna say Emily i lovve the sliver earrings! They DO suit u well !

Sara _

Omg I love this idea!

Eirini

Not related, but EMILY your hair is going through its golden era, you look gooooorgeous!

Ran

I loved this video! I just had an idea for a video, if you find it interesting, maybe you could chat about what you think comes next in terms of touring for Taylor, how it’s gonna work, how big are next tours gonna be, how many tours you think she’s going to do, songs that will stay on the setlist, and all of that. Because I’ve been wondering about that and if you want to share what you think, I’d love to see that🤍

Foxy_Tatty

Emily, Queen of intellect Bonny, Queen of emotion Love you girls!

Gina Gould

Another great video ladies❤️ As a mother myself, I am selfishly dying and waiting for the day that Taylor becomes a mom and starts writing about parenting and motherhood. I have been a swiftie since debut when she and I were both 16 and her music has helped me cope and understand literally every other aspect of life since then except being a mom. There have been so many moments in my life as a a mom where I think, man I just wish Taylor had a song about this so I could process and reflect more deeply. Mother needs to teach me about mothering 😅

huy quang

OMG is that CARNATION on your shirt Emily? Love me a Maroon reference!

Gabi

Why 2016? It was the year tr*mp got elected. Downward spiral and drugs to cope for all of us sane people since then!

Maggie

This was a delight, ladies! You're always so insightful when it's just about the chats. Emily's hard "NOPE" to considering "Daylight" a happy song gave me a good laugh. I also found that talk about the emotions behind Taylor's work very interesting—reminds me of your "Why We Love 1989" video. Hope to see that series continue one day!

charlychops

Bonny, thanks for sharing a bit about your experiences being an online personality before C&R, and I can really see why you resonate so closely with Rep and Taylor's story behind it. Hearing about your perspective is really interesting and you speak really thoughtfully about it 💕

ton

You guys learning every cloud has a silver lining is the full phrase was so fun 🤣

carla_stone

Looooved this video guys!! I am really up for more "random" videos about Taylor. Keep doing them!! 💕

Kiki

We know that 283 equals 13 but they are also the same numbers as her release date for Lover (August 23) even though they are in the wrong order. Could be a fun coincidence, but who really knows with Taylor 🤷

Juliana Martinez

2016 was also the year the Kanye drama went down so for taylor 2016 was mostly shitty

Juliana Martinez

About the humidity rant, I have very curly frizzy hair and no matter if it’s hot or cold, if the air is humid and wet, my hair gets super fluffy and frizzy! Curly cream cannot save me

Madje ⭐️

This was one of my fav videos from you guys!!

Ashley

2016 she was cancelled and trump was elected lol I’m screaming at my screen rn at you guys not remembering it was her lowest time and she drank at home a lot cuz she didn’t go anywhere lolol

Katie K

I feel like this is going to become a comfort video that I go just like the Time Person of The Year one! I love all the chatty chats 🩷

F1Swiftie

On their The Squeeze podcast, Taylor Lautner was asked what his favorite Taylor Swift songs are. He said Back to December and Midnight Rain. His wife also said that Midnight Rain is her favorite on Midnights. That locked it in for me. It's a Taylor-Taylor song. And the way that his wife talks about him, he probably was ready to settle down at 20 years old.

F1Swiftie

Shaving - electric razor. I've never looked back. Don't have to keep buying new refills and no need for shave gel/cream.

Izzzy Federgreen

Idk if you can get leaf razors in Australia but it’s like a mix of a razor you buy at the drugstore and an all metal safety razor. I swear by mine!

Deborah

Thank you so much for chatting and reacting to this iconic article. I remember when it first came out! I re-read it religiously as needed. It was so interesting to hear your thoughts and fathoming as always! One thing that always stands out to me is that I feel like the whole article is dropping little Easter eggt for the Lover album! You caught the daylight one at the end and the one that ties to afterglow & the archer, about learning to say you're sorry and making up with loved one. Obviously, the one about her family being sick ties to Soon you'll get better. I think that some of the lessons about friendship might tie to the song it's nice to have a friend. Finding her voice politically ties to Miss Americana, and You need to calm down. Learning not to play games in a relationship, could connectto several the several of the love songs. Learning to laugh out loud at your enemies and bullies ties to, I forgot that you existed! I definitely think there are more, and I remember from the photo shoot from the article, she had a lot of little Easter eggs in the photos as well! As for her hair I agree that her hair is definitely is curly again now. But I think it's very likely that in 2019, her hair had gone straight from bleaching, straightening, and maybe other chemical hair treatments over the years. If you look at her hair and this time, Even when it's got a more natural look, it is very straight. I'm so happy that her curls were safely returned to her as she wished for!! "Karma is the breeze in my hair on the weekend (weekend)" Love you 2 so so so much!

Heidi Muller

Only you ladies can turn the 30 things I've learned into a rant about razors. Rightly so!🤣 They are hugely expensive.

Hannah

There is this one line that perplexes me with so high school - “bittersweet 16 suddenly”. Like can someone please explain? WHY bittersweet and not just sweet 16?

sofie sandrini

I LOVE how this turned into a girly talk

Jamie

lol. I turn into a full blown feminist ranter when it comes to women feeling this pressure to shave. And how expensive it is. And the struggle and all the red dots and rashes etc and for what. It’s just expected of the female body to be void of hair even if we try to go against it. Cause we have hair. Then if you actually don’t shave we just KNOW people will look in disgust. If you have a partner you are expected to shave everywhere for HIS desire. Yet he gets to be full werewolf. lol. The unfairness of us having to shave OR we are disgusting 😭 I’m so tired.

SHAD

"Bittersweet 16 suddenly" is like that moment when nostalgia just hits out of nowhere, making you realize how fast everything has changed (like the mashup she did "And in a blink of a crinkling eye Everything has changed"). It twists the usual "sweet 16" into something more emotional, looking back on youth, love, and memories that feel both far away and super vivid at the same time. It kinda remind me of Tim McGraw when Taylor sings, "It's hard not to find it all a little bittersweet. And lookin' back on all of that, it's nice to believe" i love to think there's a connection between So High School and debut a lot like Mary's Song! i think it just takes her back to that time of her dreaming of her perfect love story.

jkar

Omg! I never thought about this, but that could so be it

Victoria

I interpret it as she's not actually 16, so it's bittersweet because she didn't actually have this happy relationship at 16 so in a way it's sad to think about that, but obviously sweet that she gets to experience it now and it makes her feel like a teenager again!

lisa f

Its the silver lining moment for me

Nicole

I assumed the "because 2016" was because of kimye, Trump, and all of the shit "drove her" to drink

Rumsy

You chickens discovering the phrase "every cloud has a silver lining" was the cutest ♡

Hannah

Do you have Estrid in Australia? I swear I slept on it for so long because how can someone all of a sudden make a razor that’s better than anything on the market after so many decades AND be an 10th of the prize? I’m never looking back.

Ananya

I screamed when I realized Taylor likes Indian food!!!!! Mughals chicken yayyy

Daniela

2016= Trump won his first election lol

Bethany Andrews

I feel like I finally hacked the razor thing! I bought a pack of men's razors from Costco. It came with like 8 replacement heads, the handle and even a little base for the handle to sit in. $10!!!!!

Bethany Andrews

And it gives me the best shave I've ever had

Breezy Bumbles

Before I even get into listening to this article you are about to read me, I already assume, at age 47, that I know NONE of these things that Taylor knew before 30.

Breezy Bumbles

Learning that Taylor’s greatest fear is staying safe and also keeping her family, friends and even her fans safe is heartbreaking. The fact that she even has to worry about that at all is heartbreaking. Can you even imagine how she felt when someone passed away at her show? And shortly thereafter, had to cancel 3 shows because of terrorist threats? And then all the hatred that came her way because of how she handled that situation? She was trying to save lives! Because this is something that she deals with every day and we know nothing about it because she keeps it to herself and keeps living. But I can’t imagine the agony she must have gone through during those shows. Ugh!

Breezy Bumbles

No wonder Taylor is terrified to start or end a relationship with someone. Just look at how “we” handled the breakup Joe and then the new relationship with Matty! WE ARE INSUFFERABLE! (And clearly I don’t mean us, in our beautiful little community over here!)

Breezy Bumbles

I use my husband’s razor. It has a replaceable blade topper thing and it lasts for months. It works soooooo much better than women’s razors.

Breezy Bumbles

I think it might be quite humid in New York. I’m in Canada right at the border in Niagara Falls and it is very humid here. My hair is similar to Bonny’s in thickness and texture and my hair is a frizzy nightmare! Especially in the hotter months. I think it’s all the lakes in our area? Idk!!

Breezy Bumbles

I was correct. This woman is the wisest soul I have ever known.

scout

"my friends from home don't know what to say" came to mind at #14

scout

I ALSO HAD NOT FATHOMED SILVER LINING

Wendy Davis

You shave your legs, what?!!! LASER and be done with it....we are NOT cavewomen. It's worth every penny!!!

Wendy Davis

The saying is, "EVERY CLOUD HAS A SILVER LINING."

Wendy Davis

OMG, The Alchemy is pure giddiness and joy--100% a happy song. Same with Karma--listen to that CHORUS, she is exploding with gratitude for the life she has and how while so many fade, she's STILL HERE. Even though it references some shitty stuff that went down with her music, she survived and thrive onced again---JOY JOY JOY!!!

Fede

BUT ALSO I WILL NOT BE MAD IF WE ARE HER CHILDREN FOREVER 😂😂😂

Em Wilkins

For me, number nine is her saying she learnt to make cocktails because with all the Kimye stuff, she couldn't go out.

Nicki

#16 is "And when you're fifteen Don't forget to look before you fall" -fifteen

victoria

LEAF razors are amazing!! And eco friendly

victoria

AND she manifested her song CANCELLED back in number 23 😮‍💨