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SONG REACTION: You're Losing Me (Midnights) (Patreon)

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2023-05-27 07:03:58
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HALLELUJAH WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED BY OUR QUEEN!!

We prioritised editing this reaction today, so our reaction to the Secret Songs will be slightly delayed until tomorrow (but obviously we did watch and... A MUSIC VIDEO??? We are dying)

But anyways... this song, oh help me lord, we are ill

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• Sammy 🐍🖤 •

OMG IVE BEEN WAITING!!!!!! (Now need to watch! 😂😂😂) I have sooooo many opinions and emotions 😭💔

Courtney Graham

Here been waiting for y’all 🫶🫶🤣

Rachel Gascon

I just got home and AHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Rachel Gresser

lol I've literally been sitting here refreshing the page waiting for thissss 😭😭😭

ari

OMG

rylie

SO EXCITED

Justus Kerstin

it’s saturday and i have to be at school so i can’t watch until i get home later this is SICK AND TWISTED 😭i just low y’all will have a breakdown and i can’t wait to watch!!!!!

Jeremiah Bell

OMG QUEENS THANK U I WAS SO READY 🙏🙏🙏😭😭❤️❤️

Amanda Watts

SIGNED UP FOR PATREON JUST NOW FOR THIS

Inigo joaquin

REACTIONS MOTHERS ARE SERVINGN TODAY FIRST IT WAS AJAYS REACTION TO MIDNIGHTS LONG OVERDUE AND NOW TWO VIDEOS FROM BONNIE AND EMILY

Jessie

There’s too much going on at the moment to fathom, thank you guys for all the amazing content🫶🏻 (I’m so scared for your secret song reactions, we lost two of the best)

sammi snyder

here again to eat my 1am cereal and watch my faves.. so excited to watch this one.. so many emotions.. i can’t think straight

Annika 📍Melb, AU

Omfg, the problem with your jobs is that you have no idea what Mother is going to throw at you! I imagine you are SO BUSY! Hard to schedule your work day 😂 But so blessed for this to be your lives right? Thank you for keeping US fed!

Ava Jeffs

today was the most insane day of my entire existence

goldenaugust

you guys are the gift that keeps on giving whaaaaat!! thank you

Rachel Gresser

the way in the video you posted yesterday you talked about her being a phoenix, and then she literally says it in this song!! I gasped when I heard it, couldn't wait to see you react to that!

Alex Fraser

started my day off crying when i woke up to this song 😭😭😭

Daisy Ramirez

No because the contrast between the lines, "do I really have to tell you how he brought me back to life?" AND "I can't find a pulse, my heart won't start anymore." Is absolutely devastating my whole soul. 😭❤️‍🩹

dimple

You're losing me is the new Tolerate it. Yea..... Let that sink in.

chatsandreacts

Brae really did something with that commentary oh my god!!!

paulina

This is probably the saddest Song i ever heard 😭

Laura Wylie

Im so glad that you prioritised editing this video because i have been trying to fathom this song all day and you two always help me fathom her lyrics. Thank you for posting this

Katja S.

Maybe she just wasn’t ready to share that massive hint/news with the world when the record came out.

Sara Medina

I’m so excited to cry with u guys

Nele

Taylor is keeping you girls busy these days 😄

chatsandreacts

100% makes PERFECT SENSE! I even wonder if it never was meant to be released, which is why she's calling it a "from the vault" track. all vault tracks were never meant to be released until there is a reason to!

PaulaPaula

GUYS! I WAS FLOOR TONIGHT AND CORRECTLY PREDICTED THAT JACK WAS GOING TO COME OUT AND DO GETAWAY CAR! im like a little mastermind I’m still buzzing I can’t handle what I witnessed tonight from the 13th row in seat 22 (no joke)

Laura Wylie

The fact that you can hear her heartbeat until she says she can’t feel her pulse and her heart wont beat anymore for him fucks me up every time.

sammi snyder

the way that the heartbeat keeps going until she says “i can’t find a pulse”… i… um… i just can’t

Katja S.

She’s the ultimate mastermind. She knew people would be pining after him and them and not understand. Well this shall shut everybody up 😅

Anna-Liesa

The “I'm getting tired even for a phoenix Always risin' from the ashes Mendin' all her gashes You might just have dealt the final blow” also reminds me of afterglow, they burned down so many times in the relationship and had to rise from the literal ashes but this time joe blew things up and it’s not in her head and so she couldn’t rise again I live this song so much and I am simply unwell😭😭😭

chatsandreacts

HOW DARE YOU BRING THIS TO MY ATTENTIONNNNNNN!!!!!! omg

Daisy Ramirez

"I whisper in the dark, where we guna go?" TO "now I just sit in the dark and wonder if it's time." AND "we survived the great war" TO "all I did was bleed as I tried to be the bravest soldier" - THIS. SONG. FUCKED. ME. UP.

julie mortvedt

Looking through my older playlist, I noticed a song from The 1975 on one of them named "Paris" (from 2016), and thought perhaps it could have something to do with Taylor's "Paris" 🩷 what do you think, could there be a connection? 🌞

Mae 🇳🇱

“DO something babe, SAY something. LOSE something babe, RISK something.” - Poor Taylor. I’ve always thought the whole change from “id marry you with paper rings” to “that 1950 shit they want from me” was too abrupt. And the fact that she just wanted that lavender haze instead of building something/marriage? After 6 years?? Our hopeless romantic girl? Always felt weird to me. Lavender Haze wasn’t real, it was a coping mechanism at it HURTS.

Cara M

Yesss you guys are so quick and always deliver on the fathomings!! Have to add that the line “i’m the best thing at this party” also reminds me of YOYOK “i searched the party of better bodies.” She discovered her worth! Insane amount of lyrical and sonic parallels in this song with her past work! Truly shoots to the top of the list of her masterpieces imo

Katja S.

“You know there's many different ways that you can kill the one you love The slowest way is never loving them enough”

Mia Gregorio

i love this song so much, but so painful to listen to it.. trying to think about when she said she is the happier she’s ever been, and it’s making me feel a little bit better.

Zoë

it makes so much sense how she said a few shows back „I like to tell men how to propose, it’s really not that hard“ (something like that) this was so directed at joe!!

diya

literally devastated by this song! “i know my pain is such an imposition” haunts me.

diya

unrelated but omg emily that dress is the best thing i’ve ever seen!!! where is it from? you look amazing in it!

Ally ❤️

Genius says Jack produced it

Laurie A. V.

I've had "I Can't Stop Loving You" in my head since I listened this. It reminds me SO MUCH of her Phil Collins cover in the BBC Live Lounge.

Taylah Louise

Is you’re losing me going to be released on streaming?

Cara M

I’m sitting home, isolated in my room with COVID sobbing from all todays content. This song especially and Ajay crying to Midnights for the first time, the clock in the coffee striving midnight with blue and black nail polish…I’m actually just a mess rn, a crumpled up piece of paper, if you will. I also wanted to bring up Hits Different on your comments on last nights video but felt too sick to even write my thoughts down, then you spoke my brain out loud today with your thoughts on this song post break up! Love your work Bonnie and Em. It’s been a day.

chatsandreacts

She's always released withheld tracks on streaming eventually (e.g. the lakes, RWYLM, hits different) so I can't see why she wouldn't release it!

Beatrix P

Oh lord what if High Infidelity isn’t about Calvin at all!

Cara M

Ok wait we’re both Cara M’s!! I love that for us! 💖💖

angel (plnkblue)

I truly cannot get over "lose something, babe, risk something"--like it could sound so cruel out of context, but if you have folded yourself down and worked to meet someone you loved in the middle of what they wanted, but they weren't willing to do the same at risk of uprooting what they already knew and understood.... of course you would feel like that. I love when she does things like this and touches on the typically negative or "wrong" emotions that are actually extremely human and experienced by everyone to some degree. This line breaks me bc it's so desperate in the face of the rest of the song's futility and acceptance of a slow, tragic death.

Sally O'Meara

No and this production is so offensive like the heartbeat going until she says she can’t find a pulse and it stops 😭

Ava Joyce

my heart aches for her that she felt this way. i’m so unwell

Maria Carmen

I am not coping very well. This might be one of the most vulnerable songs she’s ever written. 💔

Beatrix P

Does anyone know where Taylor and Joe were on April 29th 2022, refathoming High Infidelity now with the brought me back to life lyric, could it be she was with Matty?? I’m so confused lol

Lex

I feel like this song probably came before Labyrinth. Things were not going well, but then they managed to (seemingly / temporarily) patch things back up: “I thought the plane was going down. How’d you turn it right around?” I also feel like it adds context to the “uh oh / oh no” lines in Labyrinth that we’re always a bittt confusing for me personally. We know that they had rough patches throughout the relationship and I feel like with Labyrinth, T was sort of giving in to letting J smooth things over, but really she knew it was a cycle and a pattern she’d already experienced in the relationship. I for sure don’t believe we would have ever heard this song if the break up hadn’t happened. *this is all obviously entirely speculative as I am not Taylor Swift 👍👍

Catalina Borreani

I CAN’T STOP LAUGHING AT THE EDITING WHEN THE SONG ENDS AND EM SCREAMS omffnjshsh that was too good

FALNA

OMG I’ve been waiting for this since I heard this song. Everything you said I 10000% agree with!!

Emma Nelson

“Now I sit in the dark and wonder if it’s time” gives me anti-Daylight vibes. A lot of this song actually feels like a walking back of some of the Lover (album) sentiments— on top of the obvious midnight hints. Upon early fathoming, I’m getting afterglow, daylight, paper rings, Cornelia street (duh), and me

Beatrix P

Ok so 1975 we’re recording their album in April 2022…

Madison Sturdevant

What are we supposed to do if William Bowery ends up being a writer on this…. 😳She could have heard him playing that melody on the piano and taken it from there.

Sarah

I am in shambles!! The references are next level, the bridge makes me want to jump off of one, the melody is incredible. I can’t believe she gave this to us! and everything finally makes sense. When the news hit, it felt surreal that she seemed this « fine ». I can’t believe that then, we had already had so many clues with Hits Different! Omg, truly a masterpiece.

Austin

I’m probably gonna be the 1 of many to mention this but the switch from “the Great War” when she said “I really thought I lost you” and now it’s changed to “you’re losing me” I’m not well

Carlie Leistikow

Ok hear me out I got a lot to say. But in terms of who produced this song. It’s suspect that it’s not in the cd information….but also she has been doing a lot of 1989 hints…what if it’s a Max Martin song and she hid it because she isn’t ready to give 1989 completely away to fans yet? I could be very wrong. Whoever produced it, the song is fucked up and has me refathoming a lot. Onto my thoughts on this song being about Joe. I agree hearing this song, yes I think this is about Joe and her starting to process the end of the relationship, hits different now I will have to revisit because this definitely changes things. I think I agree with Em I don’t think Midnights is a break up album but definitely Taylor thinking about things and processing how to proceed. I am unwell and that bridge. Like we knew losing Joe would make her feel it, it’s just heartbreaking that it’s happened. Bonny I am with you I will need to do some refathoming of midnights.

Candice Plendl

Have you seen all the TikTok videos of the You’re Losing Me/Cornelia Street mashup? I cannot 😭

Amanda Watts

Just me rocking and screaming and flapping my hands at 3am while fathoming with you two… it’s so exciting to already KNOW the parts you’re gonna freak at and watching your faces!!!! This song is a FAV for me 😭

Emma Nelson

Also re The Great War, I’m preliminarily playing with the idea of what if we assumed the opposite roles. Like what if he was the one waging the war / closing himself off / bringing up the fights and she was the one broken and blue— the one that was nearly lost…..

Amanda Watts

HAHAH SAME I always laugh so hard when they do stuff like that 🤣

Sarah Woollam

Her exhale at the start of this song 💔 Thank you for reacting to this so quickly x

Chiara

Can’t wait to sit and watch this!!! Thank you guys 😭❤️‍🩹

Courtney Graham

Listen to this song and Cornelia street at the same time!!! There’s TikTok it seriously messed me up. Taylor sampler heartbeat again. This song is seriously illegal 😭🫶

Stephanie Deliz

This song is a mind fuck. I immediately went back to Tolerate it. I think she’s been noticing the signs of this broken relationship for a long time but decided that she was gonna make it work. Maybe she thought she could change his mind along the way. Fucking curse that all women have of thinking we can change a man. The lyrics “Always taking up too much space or time” correlate so well with “I know my pain is such an imposition”. I’m deeply unwell and immediately need to scream it in my car. Also, he didn’t want to marry her when this woman literally wrote wedding vows in Lover. There’s no way in hell that he was blindsided by that fact that she had marriage in mind after a 6 year relationship!!! Thank you so much for the perfect reaction girls!!!! Love you so much!!!! 💜💜💜

aubrey

I got chills at the Scorpio rising and Phoenix lyric connection

Curt Decker

Taylor really is a mastermind with how she is rolling all of this out… my mind is blown

Courtney Graham

I can’t wait for your reaction to the tour tonight! 🫶

Maximilian Viel

The fact how the lyric we loved this room because of the light links back to I only see daylight 😭😭

Laurie A. V.

I also agree "Hits Different" and this song feel similar and I think that's also because of how diverse the structures are? Does that make sense? She just keep going with the changes in structure.

Beatrix P

Also Conversations With Friends began filming in April 2021

Catalina Borreani

I hope no one else relates to this song as mush as I do right now because oh my god it hurts😥

Catalina Borreani

NOOOOO I just fathomed the I know my pain is such an imposition line with you THANK YOU

Stephanie Deliz

I’ve been thinking about it all day…. It hurts!!!

Arianna

no stop because that bridge just gives me that image of someone begging their partner to save it before it ends and i can’t even fathom that she was feeling this way.. IT HURTS MY HEART STOP I CANT COPE 😭😭😭😭

Curt Decker

It’s interesting, too, that she’s using the Vocoder on her vocal for this song that signifies the end of her relationship with Joe. It was also used so much in the Rep era during the beginning of their relationship. It’s come full circle in this song. Seems like Joe’s love that “brought her back to life” is now in its last moments of life in this song. I’m overwhelmed!!!

Arianna

i saw it as like a “i can’t even believe i’m singing this right now” exhale 😭😭😭

Aloha Record Sargent

"I hope I never lose you" ... "Stop you're losing me" Listen to the instrumental beat especially in the verses of Stop you're losing me. Sound familiar? You're Losing Me / Cornelia Street Mashup: https://youtu.be/ooUiRADzFmI

Aisha 🖤

I can't I can't, the pain in her voice the lyrics!! The parallel with so many songs, the bridge onlmg 😭😭

addy

i woke up and sobbed, i cant even process

Fabiana

Better man + Tolerate it + you’re losing me = my holy depressive trinity

kienan

“Fuckin bye” is 100000% the only proper way to have closed this vid because what the actual fuck is this ILLEGAL song… heartbeat IMMEDIATELY made me think of wildest dreams and it just makes one of her most vulnerable songs all the more personal. The bridge immediately has to top the bridge rankings… I am soooOoOoOoOooOOoo unwell over these last 24 hours or so. Wow. Love you both. Thank you for helping us process and fathom.

kienan

W O W !!!!!!!! Absolutely offensive of you to say this. I kept thinking how the vocoder gets used during really vulnerable thoughts and moments where it seems like she was processing/fathoming shit in public. Like… “these lyrics cut really deep and it’s scary to put them out but maybe if I distort them a bit I can do it.”

Aloha Record Sargent

Also, does anyone else get Imogen Heap vibes??? (I might be unhinged)

Clash Fan

My mind is reprogramming itself. "I wouldn't want to marry me either" line crushed me on first listen. Worse once I thought about Paper Rings, Lover and then Willow. Actually Willow is really screwing with me as I fathom those lyrics again. I mean she's literally performing a love spell. Did she think that she needed one?

PaulaPaula

this makes me listen to Peace differently and makes me really sad… like she could never give him peace, but I don’t think he is trying to give her peace either?

Nath

It hurts, it just hurts 😭

Georgia Thompson-Chase

I’m feeling very Emily right now: I AM UNWELLLLLLLLLLLLLL This song is superior, I can’t believe how offensive it is. That bridge is another level, it’s giving all to well midnights version

Michelle Reis

i think it really hurt her when she was constantly asked when joe and her are gering married, like in the kind of way when women get asked why they aren‘t pregnant yet, but they just aren‘t able to get pragnent. This question hurt her because she knew that joe didn‘t want to marry her….

Saarz23

I’m overwhelmed! Haha

Bobhog

I feel like my brain's been chemically altered from watching your videos... my first reaction was a sad "ONLY 35 minutes???". What is happening to me??

Eilidh

I agree with your Lavender Haze fathoming. You can have traditionally feminine desires (such as getting married, settling down, having children, etc.) whilst still being angry that society/the media is constantly pestering you with "Hey, when are you getting married, settling down, & having kids?" like that's all you're worth.

Sivan Moshe

Stat mod Joe is famous! 😂

Aisha 🖤

When she says, “Do something, baby, say something” 😭😭 my mind goes to, “You don't ever say too much”😭😭, she wants him to say and defend himself or maybe fight with her and for the relationship, I really imagine them like the breakup fight scene in “all too well” he is silent and she screaming 😭😭💔💔ahh Joe 💔

Carlos Rabell Trullenque

The way this song reminds me of Clean... firstly for its production and secondly "the drought was the very worst when the flowers that we'd grown together died of thirst". That's exactly how this song feels like. Shit.

Aaron M

Oh i hate you so much for this why would you have to say this

Aisha 🖤

She definitely mourned the relationship before it ends and that is why we didn't believe the news when they came out coz she seemed very happy on the tour, that explains it really.

Omar Nuñez

stop it right now… it’s mine as well😭

Joanna Kowal

This song is so beautiful, I can't cope. The "do something, say something" line kind of reminded me of a viral clip from the series Queen Charlotte (I don't know if you have watched it) where she is fighting with her husband but he's not even arguing and she's like "FIGHT WITH ME, FIGHT FOR ME". I'm sure this song is so relatable for so many people. I am in a long term relationship and although we are great now there were times that I was definitely going through what Taylor is describing in the song. And I totally agree about the refathoming of Hits Different!

kelsie

i mentioned this on discord but i simply cannot move past the defeated sigh in the beginning of this song being so completely opposite of her confident throat clearing on ready for it, the first song we’ve heard about joe 😭

Lilly Wall

The way I understand the first two lines is her telling him about all their issues and him not understanding because he was not acknowledging them when they were happening- he was blindsided buttttt I also love what you guys said and now don’t know how to take it ahhh!

Clash Fan

She wrote High Infidelity after the Grammy's in 2021 and that was before April. I do think some of these songs are about other people.

Beatrix P

Oh did she? I didn’t know if we knew when the songs were wrote. Thanks

Clash Fan

Did you see the new Karma MV yet? During the "hell" scene don't those dancing demons look like the Willow witches? Painful!

Jasna

Eating soft boiled egg and listening to this. OMG! Amazing! Thank you guys!

Joanna Kowal

And on a second note, I am now refathoming a bit Joe and the fact that maybe he was too cautious (at least for her liking) in their relationship. The line "lose something, risk something" makes me think that she maybe wanted him to step out a little bit out of his comfort zone, maybe she even wanted him to show up for her somewhere or with her somewhere, but he never wanted to be seen together. I always respected that they wanted to keep the relationship private and out of media, but now it makes me think how much of this was Taylor's idea and how much of this was her just adapting to what Joe wanted (endless empathy) and kind of assuming his narration unconsciously (romance is not dead if you keep it just yours). This could also explain why she is out so much with Matty, like she just wants to enjoy a man who does not have a problem being seen with her.

Starbuck1234!

“Fuckin bye” is right, how dare she? How dare she write this song? I wouldn’t marry me either? “Fuckin bye”.

maya zutra

omg i cant believe you didnt cry ...i was on the floor :((((((((((

Katie K

The sigh at the beginning is giving LAST KISS! I am absolutely DECEASED over this SONG!! I’ve been listening to it on a loop and breaking my own heart but it is just SO BEAUTIFUL omgggg! It really gives me a visual of watching the relationship die like in a hospital bed on a heart monitor and she’s trying to get the heart beat started and he’s just standing by the bed and watching. Like “stop!” Get the crash team we’re losing it! 🚑🪦 May have watched you two react to the bridge multiple times 😭💀 Fucking Bye!!

Cristina

😂 thanks for this context 😅

Cristina

I want to brainwash you into loving me forever...

Silke Huybrechts

'I wouldn't marry me either' and 'unless you choose me' give me the feeling that maybe she did want to marry him, and maybe he didn't. It also reminds me of when she said 'This is how you propose, it's not that hard' on the Era's Tour. Maybe that was a dig at Joe for never proposing to her, for not wanting to marry her?

Tessa Taylor

Guyss that was incredible, so emotional processing it all!!

Tessa Taylor

Also died when she said about the Phoenix rising from the ashes after your video last night!! Can’t deal

Cristina

I'm really trying to fathom all the "falling in love" mentions on midnights like labyrinth , snow on the beach, even karma?! and try to fathom when Matty may have entered the picture....it must be that at least some song must have a foreshadowing that maybe she's getting that falling in love feeling again and it wouldn't make sense to fall back in love with Joe after such a long time and their relationship deteriorating....

Katie K

What she said on tour immediately came to my mind too!! I think this is what she meant 😭

Zosia Dabrowski

Not only was he losing her, but she was also losing herself. She was making herself smaller, resisting and hiding from her fame, moulding her wishes to compromise to his, and she knew she wasn't truly living as she wanted, she lost herself well before he lost her. I think that's a significant part of why she is "the happiest she's ever been in all aspects of her life" and her life finally makes sense now. So many references about hers and Joe's differences come back to her thriving off of external validation, and his complete lack of need of that. He wanted privacy, and she did too because of past relationship breakdowns that were caused by media and public scrutiny. But now she's thriving and I think she's accepted her need for external validation and affirmation from fans and public, and recognising that it's not inherently a bad thing when you're happy within yourself at the same time. Being with Joe kind of necessitated cutting off that stream of external feedback to her identity and self-image, starting from Rep era where "she wasn't happy in the way she was trained to be happy, she was happy without anyone else's input". I think she's been trying to strike a balance between her needs for both intrinsic and extrinsic validation, intimate relationships and fame together. Joe required the balance to be weighted toward privacy, and she knew her needs and her fame was a risk to their relationship, referenced all through Peace. I think it's a really clear show of the Jungian cognitive functions- Taylor's strongest is Extroverted Feeling, and perhaps Joe has Introverted Feeling. I also think Taylor is a really textbook Enneagram 3. She operates via external feedback and adapting to others' feelings and seeking approval, but she cut that social and emotional income stream off for too long to be with Joe. I see Mirrorball as a stark display of Fe adapting to others and living through external validation, with "I'll show you every version of yourself tonight", "I can change everything about me to fit in", "I'm still trying everything to keep you looking at me"

Cristina

That's so true those lines are still trying to "fix" things in a desperate way...

Katie K

I KNEW you would die over the Phoenix line as free what Brae send yesterday!! What timing 🔥🤯

chatsandreacts

Oh god THE BREATH!!! It says so much…. She is exhausted, she can’t believe she is there in that studio recording this, she can’t believe this is how she and Joe ended up and that she could even have written this… it’s sooooo much! And your hospital bed imagery 😭 you’re right, such a sick and dead feeling this song gives

chatsandreacts

AHHHH THE COMPARISON TO THE THROAT CLEARING I AM DYING!!!

Maria Hatch

Was just going to quote this Paris lyric, this line has always struck me as oddly specifically desperate

Green Wolf Gaymer

I knew you would lose over that bridge. The whole bridge is superior but from "Do something"... illegal. It actually reminds me of "Say Something, I'm giving up you".

Nicole

this song is too illegal, i feel like i can hear clean and cornelia street within the instrumentals ?? it’s all a lot

Nin Reckermann

I'm having a moment rn thinking what it mist be like to be an ex of Taylor and seeing there's a new song and it's about you and you have to sit yourself down like all the others and listen to it but you're the only one who was also there for the moments she's talking about and you're listening to her thoughts about you at the same time as millions of people around the world are as well,,,

Jasna

Hihi, now i'm a soft boiled girly cause of chats and reacts and also ... cause 'i'm just to soft for all of this' ... 😭😊😊

Jasna

I sheed a tear as well!

Bobhog

Why would she keep it a secret if it was with Jack and Aaron though, unless it's to create speculation. It really feels, logically???, that it should be Matty. Although, my chaotic traumatized brain went to "what if it's with Joe. trust nothing".

MarkH

I am overwhelmed! This really makes me wonder if the pandemic artificially extended their relationship.. If Loverfest actually happened, and she switched back into fame mode then, would they have broken up at the time? Also, what a writer she is! She just keeps getting better at it.

Patrícia Silva Ramos

I haven't watched yet, but just wanted to say thank you for getting this ups o quickly - I'm a lover and rep girlie and I'm not ok!!! I think I need you guys to say things so I can process this along with you

andi

I think that was WCS, that’s the song Aaron said they worked on in LA right after the 2021 Grammys. I think she watched JM perform that night and she had alot to re-fathom thus writing the song right after.

elli

I said this in the discord, but I really think this song is only meant for the hardcore swifties right now. She knows, considering the title of the song and her current relationship status that we would find ways to listen to it, but by not putting it on streaming, it doesn’t get this huge spectacle around it with the general public. It’s giving All to well 2.0 where we get to obsess over this song in our own little bubble.

Maya

I think this song screams communication issues. I really wouldn't blame it on Joe :( It sounds like this was an internal process Taylor was going through that she maybe could have communicated better? It also just sounds like they wanted different things. (And that's what makes it so relatable)

Laura (in my eras era) 🫶

Honestly I think this song has gone straight to my top five. It’s so beautiful - the melodies, the production. I feel like my ears have been blessed but oh my heart hurts! The things she says! I needed your fathoming! Thank you so much for putting this up here so quickly!!! Taylor gives us so much but you girls do too!!! 🫶

andi

“Frightful Joe” I laughed out loud, you girlies are too cute!

Maria Gabriela

no I am NOT okay this bridge is the best and saddest thing I have EVER heard :((((

Dedew

The begging. She was begging 😭😭😭

Anna Wiechhusen

I wondered the same thing. Maybe the unnatural situation created by the pandemic made it seem as if their lifes were compatible, they enjoyed the super calm, private life together. When it ended, Joe may have wanted everything to stay the same but Taylor discovered the need to go back to touring, showing herself to the public etc.

andi

It’s heartbreaking because the pain you hear from her voice is so relatable. When you know in yourself that you’ve fallen out of love, but you’re still begging for something to change so it can perhaps bring back that “fire” your relationship once had. It’s the fear in the thought of separation with someone you’ve invested so much time, energy, feelings with is just as painful. You’re not just losing a lover in that break up, you’re also losing that constant companion and bestfriend.

Maria Gabriela

"I'm the best thing at this party" also reminded me of you're on your own kid

Sina

Stooop... I finally got Hits different on streaming and now I need this Song on Spotify as well but it's literally locked away from me and i can't buy it either because i am an international Swiftie 🥲

Samskie

I'm not okay 😭

jasmine 🇸🇪🌷

Omg thank you guys! I’m really bad at commenting but I wanted to today. First of all, y’all are quick! You really are amazing for all that you do! But this song broke me! I think it’s just that your loosing me is filled with references to almost every single midnights song but also Cornelia street, KOMH etc. And I feel like it’s the antithesis of mastermind in the way that Taylor is giving up all the work she put in & everything they built and HE JUST LETS HEr slip away…. I’m unwell 😭 it’s giving "There's many different ways that you can kill the one you love. The slowest way is never loving them enough" 💔😭

andi

Btw top tier video editing on this, especially the bridge part! We were right there with you feeling all those feels!

Kyla Natale

This honestly makes me view Sweet Nothing in a whole new light too. Like at first sweet nothing was a good thing but over time “nothing” can be a bad thing.

Leticia

No I'm so sorry this is too relatable? So superior 😭

kaylee braidwood

correct me if i'm wrong but didn't she make a comment before singing a secret song (maybe how you get the girl? i can't remember) about how proposing wasn't that hard to do? i feel like that's very telling with the "and i wouldn't marry me either" line

Anna

this song has left me all too unwell 🤧

kaylee braidwood

and also the connections to the lyrics in this song with the lyrics in bejeweled like... don't put me in the basement when i want the penthouse of your heart?? what's a girl gonna do, a diamond's gotta shine???? I MADE YOU MY WORLD, HAVE YOU HEARD?? she literally made him her world even just with his presence in her albums since reputation and he couldn't even SEE HER. i can't.

Sara🇸🇪

I relate so much to this song😭 when i was younger(33 now😎) i kind of gave so much empathy and wanted to be be understanding to my partners so i forgot about myself and what i wanted. I change for them, did the things the wanted and liked because i thought i needed too to feel and be loved. And you want to forgive and understand everything move and wrongdoings people do. Still working hard on breaking this peoplepleasing era, feel like i more and more stepping in in my selflove era and i love it☺️

Catherine Crawford

Less about a breakup, more about the actual death of a relationship.

Julius Hempen

Hey hey you two ❤️ I’ve been following you on YouTube for over a year now but just got Patreon to fathom this with you! I believe it was the smartest decision to break down every song from midnights in a single video, because as we can all see this is a living and evolving album! Although after all of this I think we’re all ready for a final big fathoming at the end of this era.. so much has happened!! I would love to see a classic 2-2,5 hour midnights breakdown with all of the new hints and depth it has gotten ❤️ I love you, every day with a new video by you make me happy!! Can’t wait to watch all of this extra content on your Patreon 🥰

KJ

I'm fathoming listening to this that, if Joe was reluctant to be in the spotlight, then consciously or unconsciously he wouldn't want to break up with Taylor for fear that she'd put more of their relationship (and what was wrong with it) in her songs. That it would be in his interest to ignore the signs and pretend like things were fine because if they were still together he could still try to editorialize what she did or didn't put in songs about them. That's complete speculation, but I definitely think about how if what he was trying to avoid was the spotlight on his private life...then being Taylor's ex is the worst thing that could happen to him. Imagine "You're Losing Me (10 minute version)"...

Can

I thought of this too! An interesting concept to consider

Rachel L

YOU ABSOLUTELY STOP WITH THAT HIGH INFIDELITY LYRIC WHY IS THAT SO FITTING???

Kirrily Lewis

It’s so heartbreaking 💔 like she tried and tried and he just didn’t and in the end they wanted different things. She deserves someone who puts her on the pedestal and sees her!!! Hopefully she learns from this not to be such a people pleaser. It’s give and take. Not just give. So happy that she is happy right now she deserves it!! And Joe clearly didn’t know what he had. She seriously blessed us with this info

Meg

Is it Imogen on here for the Stop You’re Losing Me lyric? That’s the first thing I noticed about the song. Maybe she was recording this and not (or in addition to Clean) like we all suspected.

Katie K

That’s the imagery it conjured up for me really vividly!! 😭 It’s actually A LOT to fathom!! I don’t think I will ever get over this song. It cuts so much deeper for me than any other breakup song in her discography because of the the MEANING behind it and the parallels to her previous songs.

Katie K

Yes the death and dying imagery is so strong!

Nele

there is so much happening and i can't even process this song like ajjasjshjsj

Amanda H

I also thought it sounded like Imogen!! let’s hope they did this and clean🤩

Haley Willingham

She said something like that at our concert (Nashville night 2) Before Betty she said she would write songs that womensplain things to men. Like Love story is how to propose, it isn't really that hard. Then she said Betty is how to apologize.

Katie K

Omg you’re right it DOES sound like Imogen!! We need to know who worked on this!

Emma Kilpinen

Listening to Hoax hurts a little extra today… ”My only one, my kingdom come undone, my broken drum, you have beaten my heart, don’t want no other shade of blue but you, no other sadness in the world would do” 🥲

Katie K

Something else I was thinking about was what she said last week about being the “happiest she’s ever been” and her life “finally making sense”. The timing of her saying that the week before she hit us with this song I think was significant! Like she wanted us to know before we heard this that she is now in a happy place. I can hold onto that, see her happy on tour and it makes it easier to listen to and process this song I think 🩵

Shannon Reeves

joe loved his privacy and anonymity more than taylor and that breaks my heart

Alice

Emily your top is so cute!

Katie K

Omg the antithesis of mastermind!! You just blew my mind, you’re so RIGHT! 🤯😭 And the High Infidelity lyric, stop! 💔

Christine Violet

The instant I heard the bridge of this song it reminded me of hits different! They both fit on Midnights so well, but also sound different as well?! This song is so superior I can’t even process it… so many references to past songs she’s written about joe! Also I’m not sure if you fathomed, but at the beginning of the song, the heartbeat in the background stops when she says “my heart can’t beat anymore for you”, and for the rest of the song you only hear her heartbeat again in the chorus when she repeats that line! 😱😱😱 The attention to detail is crazy!

CAM

❤️❤️❤️❤️ it's been on repeat since I first heard it 😭 I keep refreshing all copyright and wiki places, and still no production. That's sus! And tbh, the sound is very Jack and Matty. This could fit on Matty's new album. 😢 My heart is so full of tears it's overwhelming

Meredith Hatley

I think the party line goes back to the Grammys after party cause that was the last time we knew they were together

Shannon Monahan

Noooo the way the backing track sounds so much like Cornelia street is illegal

Viviana

The fact that they wrote Exile together and then it became a reality for them! She also received a lot of heat for dating someone else so quickly, but with this song she shows you that she already mourned the end during the relationship...

Sarah G

Omg still fathoming everything about this song… it’s heartbreaking. But also just realised this is the first real sad Taylor break up song about her own relationship that we’ve had really since red and that’s a a lot

aiyla

just checked on genius and it says produced by jack !!

Amanda Ruth

What about the fact that Paris and Glitch were removed from the new album and this song was put in its place?!

KW

There's a parallel with Epiphany too - the heartbeat, the war themes, the repeating "you're losing me" like in a medical sense, i.e. doctors trying to save lives. Maybe this song led to the final epiphany she needed to realize it was really over.

Katie

Emily where is your shirt from? So cute

Lively_Ash

I’ve been concerned about their relationship for awhile. Certain things were red flags…even though we thought they were End Game, there were signs in songs whether they said they were about a movie (DBATC), or make believe (all the break up songs on F & E)….Joe not showing up for big moments for her were HUGE red flags 🚩🚩I know they kept saying privacy or be was filming…but there’s always a way to be there! Soooooo this song helps tie in all those things.

Lively_Ash

Now that we know they’ve had moments of break ups & this last one was the last one, now that we have this utterly devastating song….it all makes since! He started to Tolerate Her, didn’t put her first…he may have helped her in her darkest moments…but was t as Golden as she was trying to make him into being. She wanted it to work at the cost of herself….but a diamonds gotta shine & she knows her worth💛

Katrina

Standing hollow eyed in the hallway/Now you're running down the hallway

Hannah Proctor

"til we were too far gone to bring back to life" 🤝🏻 "do I really have to tell you how he brought me back to life" 😭😭😭

Natalie

This gives new meaning to lavender haze - the storms in her eyes line coincides perfectly with lying in the bed and him not reading in to her melancholy. It makes that song almost sad now...

Amy Vega

The you’re losing me lyric is so perfect because it goes so well with the death imagery in the song. Doctors always say “we’re losing them!” And so the heartbeat and her saying you’re losing me is just perfect.

Alice

Hope you guys will do a karma music video reaction! It is so iconic

Jo

Taylor tells us that they were not communicating. She was giving signals. Joe was telling her he loved her. He couldn’t tell they were dying because she never told him until it was too late. He tells her I don’t understand and she’s saying yeah you didn’t see my signals eg glaring at you every morning. Should he have been more in-tuned to her, probably. Should she have verbalised her feelings before it was too late, probably. The idea that he didn’t fight for her is wrong. Taylor literally says now your running down the hall, trying to keep her but she’s already gone. It does feel like the People story was pretty accurate. They are fundamentally different people. Neither able to give the other what they needed. Neither willing to sacrifice it all for the other. It doesn’t mean that there was not love there. Anyone who has been in a long term relationship understands. It’s so simplistic to say frightful joe. This is the breakdown of a serious relationship. It’s never one sided and I hate the retconning of what was once a beautiful love story to be rehashed into “He gave her nothing”. That’s not true. At the end of the day we will only ever hear Taylor’s side so we will never know the whole truth. Breaking down a song is fun (“ok English major”) but crucifying a real person is just nasty. I just feel really sad for them both.

andi

I’m so happy she feels that way now! Must have been an exhausting past couple of months.

Jenny MacRunnel

I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!! Its stunning! I cried like a baby the first time I heard it, the emotion is so real! The Phoenix line is my favorite line in this song, top tier! Oh and by the way, Em, I love your shirt!

sierra

fucking bye 😭😂

Kasey

I’m so glad you mentioned the dear reader lyric “to a house not a home all alone cause nobody’s there” because that always stuck out to me as odd, but makes so much sense now.

Maggie

The new perspective that this gives to sweet nothing is actually concerning... "All that you ever wanted from me was nothing" was actually a double edged sword and ended up being the breakdown of their relationship. He wasn't putting in effort or expecting anything from her so he's losing her.

Rafael Pelegrine

I was fathoming that line "how can you say you love someone you can't see it's dying" and the "you don't really read into my melancholia" in lavander haze. How that's not always a good thing cause he doesn't see the signs, how sad she really is.

Lively_Ash

AGREED👏👏👏👏

Lively_Ash

ALSO—-now going back & listening to Lover, Folklore, Evermore, & Midnights hit soooooooo different after hearing this song!!!!! You can hear her anxiety better & you can tell there were issues she was trying to cover up….we thought they were perfect, but now we see the full picture

David

OMG YESSS!!! THIS!!!!!!!!!

David

OMG she said that???? TEA.

jennie

OMG i love this video!!! Your reaction to the bridge is so so relatable hahaha I LOVE SEEING U GUYS DIE FATHOMING LYRICS! This is my favorite reaction probably lol

jennie

Love u guys!!

Ghadi

Omgbi just found out about ur patreon hiii i lovee bothhh ! And im so overwhelmed by this damn song.

andi

There are lyrics that seem to correlate to High Infidelity, are we refathoming High Infidelity?

Miantsa

I know there are so many parallels to other songs musically and lyrically, but when I first listened to this song it really brought me back to exile and tolerate it. Exile which they actually wrote together, the I gave so many signs and back and forth T__T The parallels in tolerate it with "I sit and watch you" at the beginning AND at the end, as she's contemplating throughout the whole song whether she should leave or not... not saying it's the same relationship but the motif is so similar: she wants him to see her and love her not tolerate her, and "you assume I'm fine but what would you do if I--". AND during the concert, the whole scene she does on stage for tolerate it, the other person sits there and eats, while she's screaming BEGGING for them to do something, for me echoes the "Do SOMETHING babe, say something babe" in You're Losing Me.... This new song made all the other songs hit that much harder somehow

Noa

SHE IS LITERALLY OUR FULL TIME JOB

Enzo Reis

For me Midnights remains an album about the past throughout her life, I think the themes of Bejeweled and Midnight Rain, or even Maroon are so universal in the TS universe that they could fit into any relationship other than the specific relationship that her music refers. So for me You're Losing Me is not a direct confirmation that Bejeweled, Midnight Rain etc are about Joe but that it is a bonus of the era and the album. For me Bejeweled thematically fitting her relationship with Joe doesn't mean that it's about him or that she wrote it with him in mind, rather that because the theme the song addresses is so universal it ends up working for their breakup. A coincidence indeed. In the Fearless Platinum interview, Taylor pointed out that she always continues writing after an album is released and that sometimes these songs end up being included in extended versions of the album, precisely because they are still part of the album's theme even though they were not written in the period before the album creation process. Ex: Jump Then Fall, New Romantics. For me this song is the closure of the closure like a Dear Reader/It's Time to Go type ending but ending Midnights reflecting about the current midnight she is dealing with. And Hits Different is 100% about Joe, but now we need to wait for TS11 to confirm us the cronological line of the breakup to know if Hits Different it's about a an early breakup while she was with Tom, whether it's a near-breakup like The Great War or False God, or whether she actually wrote it when they broke up for good and she decided to include it as a Target bonus track.

Maggie

I saw someone mention on Twitter that the chorus structure is eerily similar to Labrinth… uh oh, I’m falling in love vs stop, you’re losing me😭

Hannah S

This song reminds me so much of Gracie Abrams For Real This Time!😭😭😭 “Couldn't you tell when I was off? You never asked me what it was. I kinda hoped you feel the same way. So that I'm not the only one Who thinks we've run it dry. But still we stayed a long time”

Kelsey

The melody of “stop, you’re losing me” is the same as “sweet nothing” 😭

Katie K

Same!! You’re right whatever place she was in when she wrote You’re Losing Me sounded so painful and exhausting. I’m glad she’s no longer there!

Karen Valentino

Thank you guys so much for getting to this reaction right away! It does really fill in the gaps for me. And ooooh so relatable as I was in a 6 year marriage that took about the last year to fall apart. The heart clenching pain I felt, the intermittent hope, the dread, the fear, the trying to compromise to make it work. The anger. And the sense of loss before the loss itself. This song totally takes me back to that time though now it’s long ago. Sometimes I feel like Taylor is a mind reader.

Layla4124

I think even in the video where he is in bed facing away from her is saying a lot. She was grasping on to whatever he would give her.

Karen Valentino

So I also want to tie something together that might or might not be real, could be coincidence. I’ve been catching up on Matty Healy and The 1975 because I like to make up my own mind about people. I’ve watched interviews with Zane Lowe and Tom Power, other shorter clips, listened to music. At the end of the Zane interview Matty vehemently slams paid meet and greets at shows, calling them “disgusting.” I actually loved his rationale. And I think it’s curious that at the Eras tour Taylor is not doing paid meet and greets. Edit: Thank you Grace for setting me straight - it is not true Taylor is paid for meet and greets. I’m leaving this up in case anyone else read misinformation about this. Also I did really like the Zane Lowe and Tom Power interviews.

Julia

Also the line “remember this room we loved ‘cause of the light” makes me think of “my tears ricochet” “we gather here, we’re lined up weeping in a sunlit room” Plus, the line: “And if I’m on fire, you’ll be made of ashes too” in MTR reflects “I’m getting tired even for a phoenix, always rising from the ashes” in “You’re Losing Me”

Layla4124

I agree. My therapist always says there are 3 sides to the story: mine, yours, and the overall truth.

Jordan Bush

GUYS IF YOU PLAY CORNNILEA STREET AND THIS SONG AT THE SAME TIME IT LINES UP AND TELLS A STORY

Breejmc

I was literally refreshing the page over & over waiting for this reaction 😂 your jobs never end! Thank you for this reaction. And thank you, Taylor, for this song! Cuts deep.

Jason

Guys I'm wondering if Labyrinth isn't about Joe but actually about...hiM...

Emma H

this is making me refathom “hits different” SO HARD RN OMG

Emma H

WAIT WTF I COMMENTED THIS LEGITIMATELY 5 SECONDS BEFORE THE PART IN THE VIDEO WHERE YOU START TALKING ABOUT HITS DIFFERENT

Sadie

“Do something babe, say something” parallels with “staring at the ceiling with you, you don’t ever say too much” from Lavender Haze! As well as “you say you don’t understand, and I say I know you don’t” and “you don’t really read into my melancholia”. I am 100% of the opinion that Lavender Haze contains a lot of discontent and contention in the relationship and You’re Losing Me seems to expand on some of those ideas. She was feeling misunderstood as well of a lack of him trying to understand. Idk so much to unpack just some initial thoughts! Also notice how the heartbeat from the beginning of the song STOPS during that first chorus when she says she can’t find a pulse AHH this is too much

Sydney Ros

this is the saddest song omg

Grace Tapulgo

Taylor has never done paid meet and greets. Her team would hand select people to come meet her

Grady

this song actually gives me imogen heap vibes i wouldn't be surprised if she worked on it!

debmulford

Are you guys going to post reactions to snow on the beach ft more lana?? Cause I absolutely loved it

Karen Valentino

Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me this! I read some misinformation then. I’ll change my comment accordingly.

Terri DeLoach

I have literally been waiting on you two to react to this since I heard it yesterday!

Meghan DesRochers

I think we need to re-fathom high infidelity 🫣

Julia Fisher

omg you both look SO CUTE in this vid!!!

Meghan DesRochers

I have been re-fathoming labyrinth as either her falling for someone else or times when she thought she may be falling back in love with Joe “I thought the plane was going down, how’d you turn it right around”

Renée

Production deffo reminds me of Cornelia Street. Absolutely so overwhelmed over this songgggg!!!

Meghan DesRochers

I think we must!!! “How he brought me back to life” with all the death references in this song, it can’t be a coincidence.

Renée

Its on yt along with kaa ft ice spice

Tracy Peterson

And now go revisit Renegade. “Is it insensitive for me to say Get your shit together? So I can love you Is it really your anxiety That stops you from giving me everything? Or do you just not want to?”

CAM

OMG wait The emergency room metaphor is the whole song "You're losing me" is about an emergency room situation... You don't know what to say "A cure" "If it's time" Phoenix has to die "Gashes" "Final blow" "Pulse" "Heart won't start" "Can't tell is dying" "Bite my nails" "Face was grey" like a corpse "Sick" "My pain" "Until it's gone" death metaphor Battlefield field metaphor Bring it back to life "Empathy" cards for death "I'm faded" "Say something" is an iconic line in movies when someone dies in your arms "To believe" religious metaphor in death OMG and the connection to False God - saying that he's the religion she will believe in but he doesn't believe in her Shit Taylor

Shaine Klhoe

Yall I could be wrong but I am pretty sure the line is "I gave you all my best PEACE...endless empathy" I cant handle this being connected to peace 😭

Maggie May

The part about Taylor’s Scorpio rising is so spot on for her!🖤

sabrina

i’ve been a 1975 fan since 2012 and still am. i have many thoughts on how he’s being perceived rn, not going to go into that BUT this sound is verrrrry 1975. and the fact that no one’s mentioned would make so much sense due to the backlash they’re getting. and i think her not mentioning it is her telling us it’s him without having to actually say it.

Aglesh

The backlash is valid.

Erica

It reminds me of clean. The beats and the backing vocals. 🫠

Amyisaswiftie13

no literally the im the best thing at this party line has me fucked up because its literally like youre at a party with your lover and he is acting like you dont exist LIKE IN THE ALL TOO WELL FILM YALL LIKE WTFFFFF

Nan

The heartbeat at the beginning almost sounds like an ultrasound...like the first heartbeats of a baby.

Yoyo

The most superior bridge i’ve ever heard! It’s time for us to re-rank the bridge again

Ginette

Not sure if anyone has said this but does anyone think could this be Imogen Heap (wrote/prod Clean)? I don’t know why but feel like some of the “losing me” before bridge sounds like Heap. Unless it’s already been confirmed who produced/wrote it then never mind 🤣

Irma McKinney

I think you girls should go back to Lover and work down. I know she said it was a story she was making up on Folklore but I think Joe was making her feel those emotional’s that it made her just write them down. Almost like he was gaslighting her . So she wrote about it but really it was going on. Idk if that makes sense. When you go through a breakup and you think something is going on and you ask the partner and they say “it’s all in your head “ well maybe she wrote them down and made a story about it but really it was true. If you start at Lover you start to hear they just didn’t have a good relationship. At first I thought SOTB was about Joe at the start but now I feel like it’s about Matty because of the new lyrics that were added the Lana parts and her telling him how she’s been “Life is Emotionally abused” so maybe Joe wasn’t very nice .

Clash Fan

This just seriously fucked me up.

CAM

Yes!!! It completely reminds me of Matty's production

Clash Fan

The not showing up for big milestone moments has always bothered me. I mean this is the same woman who was devastated her boyfriend didn't show up for her 21st B-day party and wrote how many songs about it? You don't think Artist Of The Decade wasn't a bigger deal to her than a birthday party? Gigantic RED flags.

Aloha Record Sargent

Yes, I thought the same thing! Strong Imogen Heap vibes for me.

andi

I think so too. Like girl, not even a lyric sheet with credits? Got it!

andi

When the break up news came out, I remember my sister (who’s into astrology, power of manifestation etc kind of stuff) said “all those sad songs they wrote together, they /attracted/ it into their own lives”. I laughed then but now, I’m thinking.. rather than “law of attraction”, did Taylor write them as a form of signal to her “co-writer”. Like, this is what I’m feeling, these lyrics aren’t make belief as you’d think, this isn’t coming from no where, maybe take a hint. Idk.

Sadie

Also had to add the line “this room, we loved it because of the light, now I just sit in the dark and wonder if its time” and picturing it specifically in reference to the lover house, how that era was layered with light and daylight in reference to Joe and now that room (Lover, their relationship, that era) being dark and the light being gone. Don’t know if it’s intentional but the midnights album cover is her holding up a lighter and I wonder if it is related. Before, joe/the relationship was the light but now she is creating her own light. Plus all of the symbolism in her shows burning down the house… is the Taylor on the album cover the Taylor that burns the house down? Is that Taylor starting her own small flame because her daylight (Joe) is gone and now it’s midnight? It’s endlesss

Eliza

i thought the song totally reminded me of clean!!!

Rebekah Duffy

The way she went from ‘I used to know my place was the spot next to you, now I’m searching the room for an empty seat’ to ‘at every table, I’ll save you a seat’ to ‘don’t ignore me, I’m the best thing at this party’ :(

Meg

Yes! I commented about this this morning! I 100% think it’s Imogen.

Meg

From the first listen to Labyrinth I’ve never thought it made sense to be about Joe.

Rocío Bravo

I think It's also RENEGADE! It makes sense with her "empathy for him" and also, her feeling like she wasn't loved enough/ he didn't show it. Maybe that's why she thinks of "the slowest way (to kill) is never loving them enough" (i know that song is about Calvin, but the lyrics must come from somewhere).

Zoë

so much tea!!!!

Lively_Ash

THANK YOU👏👏 So many opportunities for him to show up & he didn’t…privacy when you’re an actor is an excuse!

Mark 857

This puts Bejeweled in a new light. She is going out tonight on her Eras Tour! She literally makes the whole stadium SHIMMER!!

emma

I feel like "pathological people pleaser" line coming after "and i wouldn't marry me either" (which feels very bitter and angry as much as it feels really sad) makes me think that was a dig said by him TO her. Like that's a fault he saw in her. And she's saying "here I am! the pathological people pleaser who just wants you to see her"

Can

Yes! And Labyrinth too

LouAnn Dameus

saw a lot of theories saying that midnight rain and the Great War might be from joe's pov and not Taylor's that's why it didn't really make sense.

Can

EXCUSE ME, what..?!?!!

Ben Kearney

This song has altered how i think about SO many songs! It is honestly so hard to rank Midnights now because of this and Hits Different!

Naomi

Thank you for your speediness and amazing editing! So glad to be here for this chaotic time 😊💕

D

@Kim I understand where you're coming from but people are not trying to 'cancel' him. They are giving valid criticisms to someone who has been publicly racist and antisemitic and are calling for accountability. Being from a different generation doesn't stop a person from participating in anything, especially 'cancel culture' which is not what most people speaking about him are even doing. People are legitimately hurt by the words he said and things he's done so poc's have every right to not forgive any apology he gives. I definitely agree people can change but some things he's done/said are recent so people are rightfully not ready to show him grace yet. None of us know him so we can only hope he's doing the right work behind the scenes from now on to grow from here.

Marli Kauffman

“Until we were too far gone to bring back to life” with High Infidelity “do I really have to tell you how he brought me back to life”

Christine Violet

I just keep thinking about all the songs on midnights in a completely different light… like is Midnight Rain about Joe? He was sunshine (golden), I was midnight rain/ he wanted it comfortable (lose something, babe RISK something), I wanted that pain. LIKE WHATTTT 🤯🫠

Nicole Winn

“MY face was gray, but YOU wouldn't admit that WE were sick.” ☠️

Shona Marks

Hi Bonny and Emily I love your videos and fathoming of Taylor Swift lyrics 💖 unsure if you are Greys Anatomy fans but the final verse of ... "do something... lose something... choose something..." reminds me of Meredith begging Derek to choose her over his ex-wife Addison??? I know Taylor's cat is named after Meredith Grey... what are your thoughts???

Natalie T

I can’t help but think of Lavender Haze differently now. Perhaps it was written from his perspective. All he wanted was to stay in the lavender live bubble, when she wanted to progress and move the relationship forward. She wanted to get married, HE felt that was too old fashioned and just wanted to stay in early days of relationship? I mean her saying “I wouldn’t marry me either” like he didn’t want that with her!! It’s all so different now ! Midnight Rain?! 🤯

Fahmeen

I think Taylor wanted to be “the cool girl” and not care about things like marriage cause joe didn’t but she in fact still wanted it and couldn’t let it go 🥺 breaks my heart

Guadalupe Trejo

I def feel like she did want to get married not just paper rings but also I think he knows he better lock it down or I won’t stick around cause good ones never wait…

Guadalupe Trejo

Ok but also how Bonny moved at 20:09 at the same time as the beat change was so oddly satisfying

Maja Gunhold

EMILY that top was made for you!!

Mia Gregorio

did you girls react to the karma music video????????????

Linds K

For the context of tying her frustration of the media wanting the “1950’s shit” from her to her seeming to say she actually did want to get married, I just wanted to add my perspective as an unmarried woman. To me, it is actually EXTRA annoying and hurtful for friends and family to ask someone when they’re ever getting married when it may be something that you do want but can’t have (versus what you don’t want). So I can totally get how in Lavender Haze she is calling out that frustration even if it’s something she did actually want for herself.

Ruby Ozolins

I’m so torn because I don’t want to speculate on her life - BUT! I can’t stop thinking about the TikTok when she said she needed some time, and it was tinged with such sadness! I can’t help but feel like they might have broken up or gone through a really hard patch, and it was likely while she was writing midnights. She could have written hits different and losing me back then. They are both just such perfect songs that make you feel that pain and uncertainty 💔

Aleesha Milligan

some of these lyrics remind me of all too well 10, theres of course the pulse metaphor, and also the lyrics "'Til we were too far gone to bring back to life" and "come back swearing its the same, after 3 months in the grave" and then "How can you say that you love someone you can't tell is dying" and "and then you wondered where it went to as I reached for you but all I felt was shame and you held my lifeless frame"

Jessie

Emily’s “aaargghh” when Bonny says “what if she performs this” 🤣🤣🤣

Jessie

“Fucken bye” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hannah Beaudoin

“How can you say that you love someone you can’t tell is dying” immediately reminded me of “there’s many different ways that you can kill the one you love, the slowest way is never loving them enough.” That’s part of why she was hoping for so long that this love would be “cured.” Because he killed her in the slowest way possible!!

sharon teles

"Every morning I glared at you with storms in my eyes. How can you say that you love someone you can't tell is dying?" reminds me of "You don't really read into my melancholia"

Can

Anyone relistening to Renegade?

Haley Haas

This whole time I though the chorus I. Hits different was “oh my love is alive”….and now knowing is lie wow I’m not well😅🙃

Juicy Dragon

This video, this one, absolutely needs to be uploaded to youtube. It's obvious to all in the TSU that chats & reacts commentary is THE most insightful (and hilariously entertaining!) available, and I know you have to give goodies to us patreon peeps - but I feel all TS besties need to see this video, so I implore you to share it on youtube ;) So great. Keep it up, gals xox

Krystle Aceski

100% this! The same can be said for people asking when you are going to have kids. As soon as my husband and I were married the questions started of when are we having a baby. But I had health issues going on at the time and wasn't in a position to have a baby at that time. It was so frustrating and painful every time the question was asked because it was like "I want to more than anything but it isn't in the cards now and may never be"

Krystle Aceski

Yes! It was the first thing I thought of!

Krystle Aceski

I don't think the lyrics were changed in SOTB, just that she had Lana sing the second verse. But maybe I need to re-listen

Krystle Aceski

I also have to wonder if folklore and evermore have hints of their relationship troubles. She very easily could have disguised it as fictional characters and stories to not rock the boat with Joe anymore than what was already happening, especially if he didn't think there was anything wrong.

Krystle Aceski

Yes! Because even thinking back to songs written before she was with Joe she often has referenced weddings and getting married so we knew she always dreamed of that for herself.

Katey Koch

"I gave you all my best me's" really really reminds me of your fathoming of Peace. She was willing to give him 'her wild, give him a child' and he wasn't willing to meet her with that same level of commitment. She could give him everything but Peace and it was never enough.

Dedew

The fact that she wrote this song by herself 😭

Ruby Ozolins

The NYU graduation one - it was the song over the top, but it felt like she was sad 🥲

Aloha Record Sargent

I think they have to wait until it's on a streaming platform. Otherwise they could likely get a copyright strike.

libby

just now fathoming that taylor says in willow “i’m BEGGING for you to take my hand” (like IN MARRIAGE)

Angel

Listening to The Alcott rn. No idea of the timelines, but I remembered Aaron saying it was already a complete song, but decided to send it to Taylor because she might relate to it. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meesh

The sentiment of this song reminds me of “the only heartbreaker” by Mitski; Taylor wanted him to fight just to show he cared

Juicy Dragon

Ahh true true..do we know when it’s due to come out on streaming?

Morgan Murdock

I was thinking about this today. Like I know that was so long ago and they seemed like they were in such a good place but I can’t help but wonder??

Morgan Murdock

The more I think about it the more I feel like a lot of the songs directed towards him we’re almost her apologizing for who she is. Like even in ME how she says I know I’m a handful and stuff it’s like she’s trying to convince him she’s worth it because she knows her worth, but I don’t necessarily think she knew she was doing that at that time. She was constantly apologizing for her fame and making sure he was comfortable 😭 and in peace she just put him on this pedestal like she could never be as honorable as him. There’s so much to unpack it’s turned my brain inside out. And even wirh sweet nothing like now that I think about it it’s almost backhanded like he didn’t really want as much to do with her? But it came off like he just wasn’t asking for anything when he wasn’t actually being accepting of her? Does that make sense? I will be fathoming for the rest of my life, I love her and I’m so happy she’s happy 😭

Morgan Murdock

I totally could see that, that’s so upsetting

Cate Hunter

I absolutely believe this was recorded super recently when Florence Welch was at electric lady with Taylor in NY - the “stop, you’re losing me” production sounds very Florence!

Cate Hunter

Also MH wore a doctor’s coat at the 1975 show today… the doctor that brought Taylor back to life? Maybe? 🤡?

Aisha 🖤

I slept and woke up and I'm still under the effect of this song.. the “You’re not sorry” song on the tour, there are parallels to this song😭😭😭😭😭 “left me waiting in the Cold” AND “Cold as You”!!! Omg, she literally told us thru her past songs 😭😭💔💔

Mareena Francis

I'm so ill over the thought that maybe the reason self loathing was such a big theme on midnights was because of them growing apart and her feeling that it was because of her flaws. Like, it could have been one of the things keeping her up at night trying to figure out what was going wrong with them ouchhh 😭

Ebonyeora

This song actually hurts me- it gives me a bit of tolerate it energy with how desperately she wanted it to work and wasn’t getting the same in return. And then I also get big exile moments in there too with her sending signals that he couldn’t pick up on 😭💔

andi

I was just thinking this. “You’re so much older and wiser…” tries to lead us away from the thought of it being about Joe but those were the vibes.

andi

Tbh what’s been looming around my head since the beginning about sweet nothing is the part “on the way home, i wrote a poem, he said what a mind.. this happens all the time”. To me it felt like, “what a mind” became an automatic response for him. He does not bother asking more about the meaning, ideas, emotions about the poem. Poetry is for discussion, especially for writers such as Taylor and an automatic passive response such as “what a mind” will not stimulate writers. Again these are speculations on how we interpret her songs, but I’ve gotten that feeling from the 1st listen, months ahead of the breakup announcement.

andi

I’ve always believed them to be secretly married with how much Taylor hinted about marriage since Lover. No man could be that dense to not get the in your face hints right? ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

Antonia

GUYS!! 🌓 The lyrics “Remember looking at this room, we loved it cause of the light. Now I sit in the dark and wonder if it’s time”. The ROOM could be a symbolism of their relationship. They used to be in the light (Daylight🌕) in contrast to her sitting alone, in the dark (Midnight🌑). What if the whole album, Midnights, is meant to be a contrast to Daylight?! Taylor even said that the Lover album was initially going to be called Daylight! Then we would have had Daylight and Midnights 🤯

Helen Dunham

There’s a video early on in the Tour of Taylor playing Champagne Problems with tears in her eyes. After hearing this song I wonder if she had a real life moment of asking him to marry her and he said no 😢😢

Sol Gorlero

I always thought Cardigan had a lot of elements that were about Joe. “You drew stars around my scars. But now I'm bleedin'”

Angel

It hurts me so much to think that she actually proposed and he fucking said no!

Alina Jade

I've been thinking about this all day and this song is really giving me tolerate it vibes....did we fathom that tolerate it was not about joe? Also the lyric in tolerate it "i greet you with a battle hero's welcome" kind of connects to the war and frontlines lyrics in this??????? i'm a new swiftie and day two of being on the patreon hehe. pls let me know ur thoughts!!! <3

Marla April

The hallway references go with this, which was his way out, her hearing the key hoping it him 😢

Antonia

In Dear Reader she also says “you should find another guiding light”, maybe as in Joe is not her light/guiding light anymore 🥲

Antonia

Omg yes! It fits with the war theme which is apparent in The Great War and You’re Losing Me.

Marla April

I thought it was from his perspective too! She’s also the boss and breadwinner, the “husband” stereotype of the 50s so he would be the “bride” 😅😅😅 I don’t think she would mean it that way but that just made me laugh

Marla April

Me again- The scrutiny WOULD be new to him as well. It’s not new to Taylor at all.

Anna Holland

The repetition of “you’re losing me” “can’t find a pulse” “gray face…sick” all seems to indicate that the relationship was truly just dying for a while. I know when a patient’s heart stops, medics and doctors will often use the phrase “we’re losing them!” And the heartbeat of the relationship is dying, it stops

Aloha Record Sargent

And do you think when she says "Stop" -- she could be referring to Joe trying to resuscitate her/the relationship? So, she's telling him to stop trying, because the relationship is already dead, he's definitely going to lose her?

Emma K

Wait maybe the Great War is actually from his perspective. 🫢🫢 like she was writing from his side of the story.

Patrizia

He didn't choose her...oh Joe....🥲🥲🥲 loved your reaction as always ♥️

Eliza

I AM JUST FATHOMING: "i wouldnt marry me either, a pathological people pleaser, who only wanted you to see her": maybe she's saying with a twinge of sacrasm/spite that she was such a people pleaser in joe's presence, trying to please him by becoming hidden from the world, adopting his hermit lifestyle, and all she wanted was for him to see her as more than her fame, so thats why she overcompensated by suppressing her glow and went into "hiding" with him in order for him to better relate to her as she tried to appear nonchalant about fame and wanting the spotlight or whatever. im sure she appreciates and likes privacy-- BUT it seems like in these lyrics she's saying that she no longer liked herself (i wouldnt marry me either) because she realized how hard she tried to please him but ultimately he was not able to see the real her. thus, shes looking in retrospect , disappointed in herself that she limited herself in those ways within their relationship.

Vanessa Lesser

Did anyone hear Imogen Heap in the production and backing vocals? The plucking? It gave me so many clean vibes omgggg

Aloha Record Sargent

New theory: What if the "final blow" was Joe telling her that he was NOT going to attend any of the Eras Tour performances. And that was emblematic of the whole problem, with him not willing to take risks to "see" her. And she just got tired of it; of him not being there for all her important moments (and there have been so many he missed over the past year or two). And that's maybe why she made such a big deal of Matty attending so many of her shows?

Rhiannon W.

Fathoming: Taylor and Joe most likely weren’t exclusive in the beginning (“I wish you were mine all the damn time” “I don’t want to miss you, like the other girls do”) and I imagine it would be emotionally difficult to date an actor. They are put into such intimate situations, secluded on set for long periods of time. Maybe Taylor’s wondering in The Great War (“got the sense I’ve been betrayed”) is touching on her insecurities which were intensified by his potential resistance to marriage.

Zoe

I also feel there’s a double meaning to you’re losing me. 1. Him actually losing her as a partner because of his behaviour/attitude and 2. ‘Your losing me’ meaning he’s losing her in his conversation and what he’s saying. Like when someone explains something and you say ‘you’ve lost me’

Angel

Use my best colors for your portrait! Aaaaah!

Angel

After reading what people have fahomed, I am thinking, is she begging to stop hiding, to stop being so private? Like say something to the public, do something in public, risk to be seen with me because you are choosing me.

Abby

the desperation when she says "do something babe, say something. lose something babe, risk something" hit my heart like a transport truck

Ryann

brb thinking of yoyok, and 'just to learn that you never cared' and what if that verse was a teeny bit abt Joe???

Becca C

I love the double meaning of you’re losing me: 1. She’s legit dying and she saying DO something ! All I did was bleed, I’m dying here! 2. He’s losing her if he doesn’t see that she’s the best thing at this party and choose her

lydia

ahhh i finally joined the patreon (after watching literally every single yt video you guys have made since the folklore reaction!!) just so I could see your reaction to this song bc I KNEW how much you would love it and I simply needed to fathom alongside you! and now i’ve been binging all the other vids on here and it was SO worth it!! love you bonny and emily 🫶🫶

Nira

You guysss, this song put so many things in perspective. I don't know why but I've always interpreted the 'signals' and 'signs' Taylor sings about as maybe something private between Joe and her. But they're so not! She sang about marrying him with paper rings, giving him her wild and her child (!!), teaching him what 'forever' feels like, she said in her documentary that she was falling in love with someone. They were all signs! Like she was letting him know that this is exactly what she wants! I remember hearing Lavender Haze and honestly I was confused. Because she kept saying she wants to be married to him throughout her last albums. The switch to 'they want me to be your bride/i dont want to do that' was so baffling. But it makes so much sense, the denial, the delusion, just the attempts to stay in that relationship!! On the other hand, the signs she talks about. One of the things i noticed that might not be a big thing - Taylor stopped liking Joe's instagram posts about the same time as she sold the Cornelia St house. I thought at the time she was selling it because the fans are always there and its no longer that private haven for them. Idk, i'm so devastated. I love Joe so much. he was so good for her, until he wasn't.

Rons

joining this patreon for this video!!! and it is totally worth it!! Love you Bonny and Emily!!! best humans ever <3 SO OBSESSED WITH THIS SONG

Farah Canicosa

Lavender Haze is Taylor gaslighting herself that marriage isn’t what she wants……..

Geneva

Omg legit same vibe hahaha. I joined the Patreon a week and a half ago because I was sick of watching the same C&R videos over and over and it was the best $11 CAD I’ve ever spent 😂

Geneva

I really don’t think we need to make every line about Joe in hindsight, when that line was very clearly about her teen years

Riley Swain

Alternate title "it's time to joe" 😭

Starbuck1234!

after listening to this nonstop for days, this is soty material. its easily one of the top songs in her catalog. The bridge is her best bridge she's ever written imo, surpassing ATW10 and OOTW.

Amyisaswiftie13

its so worth it, i came for another video forever ago and had to stay lol

Amyisaswiftie13

i was thinking she was begging him to stop ignoring the truth which was that he was losing her and to change things around to bring it back to life and show a little effort but here he is saying he loves her and not able to tell shes dying

Ashley

& 3. "you're losing me" as in "we're losing her!!" when someone is dying.. Goes along with all of the references to sickness/death

Zoe

Omg yeah. Cause when she says ‘fading’ to me that really is a link to sickness/death too 😩😩

Zoe

Okay no I just had another fathom that cold as you is you’re losing me’s cousin. The feeling is so similar - ‘no use defending words you will never say’ / ‘do something babe say something babe’ And the fact she sang COY as a SS and looked like she meant EVERY WORD

Jenny MacRunnel

I've been thinking the same thing! If this FINALLY won SOTY....AHHHHHH!!!!

Mallory

And doesn’t Labyrinth also sound like a heartbeat…

Mallory

All to well for women in their 30s etc

dimple

that is too much for you to say and im afraid that i might need to agree.

littlewoodentoy

Guys! do you remember in one of her speech before Betty .. she said once (some shows after the breakup news), "It's about a song to teach men how to apologize.. How to propose.. it's not that hard". The point I'm making is she's saying HOW TO PROPOSE.. IT'S NOT THAT HARD. --> For me this song is a confirmation that she wanted to get married. But he doesn't wanna propose.

swarrytyles

I saw someone saying, that midnights isn‘t directly a break up album, but the thinking and trying made her go back to her old traits ( staying up till 3 am / midnight, thinking about her past). That’s why midnight is so sad. She saw the signs, she saw the problems in her old relationships, but she couldn‘t end it, because she was still holding on. Since rep her songs were not directed at the present and her future (with few exceptions). Even the songs about him were about a relationship that where still on going. Of course she was reminiscing about the past re-recording her old albums, but she didn‘t really write during this process. Midnight is the first album in 5 years where she is actively singing about the past and past relationships. What I mean by that? I do think Taylor‘s speech during the red tour in Tokyo before all too well is linking this good together.

Ginette

Yes! Also “what a rainy ending given to a perfect day” perfect day = daylight?!

Ally ❤️

It’s a Jack, Aaron, Taylor track according to a recent news blurb.

Ally ❤️

Agree 💯 top song on Midnights

Green Wolf Gaymer

NGL I can't listen the song without thinking of Emily's distorted scream at the end. That how much I've watched the bridge reaction.

Isabel DaSilva

I think it's time to refathom High Infidelity because "in the house lonely good money I'd pay if you'd just know me" sounds a lot like the lyrics in You're Losing Me

Angel

that was illegal of you to say

Júlia Cintra

You’re losing me is literally like Tolerate it was a plot that actually came to life

Jenna Bolmgren

Just rewatched this reaction (for the 3rd time, sobbing… again…) and then checked genius. Looks like Jack produced it, but it was written by Taylor, Jack, and Aaron. 💕

Júlia Cintra

YLM just makes so clear that tolerate it is NOT fictional and it makes me so sad that she was feeling not valued and just like a “kid” (tolerate it), dumb for 3 fucking years and that feeling didn’t change. Also, in the 1950’s line for me could have been something that joe used to say about marriage and she felt ashamed to admit that she would like to be engaged, I feel like he was so “smart, old, wise…” and she felt stupid, so she mimicked him. Ughhh makes me so sad that she felt so ashamed of who she is and what she likes (partys, fame, jewels, shining things and etc) throughout all this years, she tried to be him (fighting alone and in only your army and he STILL just tolerated her). And the first line (you say you don’t understand and I know you don’t) takes me back to tolerate it when she said that he would just say that it was all in her head, maybe even fruits of her insecurity and she WAS insecure with him, she heard all of his “indiscretions”. She used to just sit and listen, for her he was so much older and wiser and she would marry him with paper rings :(

MelTooWell

This is the most devastatingly savage bridge she's ever written. I think Joe would promise to marry her once he made it, but not until. Her biggest insecurity around their relationship seemed to be her fame, so it must have really bothered him. She tried to dim her light for him, but it only made her shine brighter. I honestly think he resented her for that. I also think this song would have been on Midnights but she thought they made it through it so she swapped it out. I also think he was pretty calculated knowing he needed to stay in the relationship long enough to get through the album release so he didn't get "Jaked". He cared about his career only, hated when she was mentioned, hated when he was described as her man, and I think he led her on just long enough to keep her quiet while he was in line for significant parts he thinks will make him a Hollywood leading man. The cure was for him to be the big star on his own, without her. And it wasn't going to happen. It must eat at him to know his biggest opportunities came as a result of her association.

Clash Fan

100% speculation on my part but just something I've been thinking about. He has a degree in English Lit from Bristol University which is a prestigious school. Not Cambridge or Oxford but on the same level. Now imagine your pop star American girlfriend who has a rather basic education decides to write an album based on Folklore. She does this in record time in unfamiliar recording situations and completely isolated from her collaborators. The album is not only critical praised but becomes a huge hit and she is lauded for the lyrical prose specifically. It literally takes her already high career up even more. In barely a year she then releases a second album that is also full of lyrically poetic gems. In fact she is so lauded for them she receives an honorary doctorate from NYU. How do you think that went over? His big breakout project didn't get great reviews and he specifically didn't get good reviews. Then on the heels of that Taylor directs a short film and it gets a premier in which her fans stand outside and serenade her. The film goes on to win awards and Taylor scores a chance to do another film. I don't have a clue what Joe's ambitions are but struggling in your career when your partner is at their zenith? It's a tough thing to handle. None of this makes him a villain and I'm not trying to do that. I'm just pointing out it's more than just handling the intrusiveness of the fans and the press, it's also not losing your identity or sense of worth. In the end they just weren't a good match.

V. Babida

Omg yes I was thinking YLM gave off Clean/Imogen Heap vibes!!!!

Brooke P

The fact she says "I sent you signals" (and not signs) being a direct reference to Willow "Wait for the signal and I'll meet you after dark" absolutely kills me. Also, the references to their relationship being sick/dying tying into the title and chorus "You're Losing Me" like when someone is coding in a hospital a lot of the time doctors/nurses will shout "we're losing them" I SIMPLY CANNOT??

Michael West

I genuinely feel the true sadness in this song. She has many breakup songs, but none where I feel such an intense loss in her voice. They built a whole life together, and watching that fade away has to be excruciating. I don’t think that it’s necessarily that Joe was a “bad boyfriend,” I think he actually probably treated her quite good. But as time went on, they changed and drifted apart, and maybe they didn’t know each other anymore. Maybe Joe was dealing with things going on in his own life, that he wasn’t aware he wasn’t putting enough time into their relationship. I just don’t want people to continue talking as if Joe is a “bad person” based on this song. It didn’t work out and Taylor felt hurt. That doesn’t mean Joe deserves to be hated on. I personally don’t believe he is “frightful,” especially in comparison to the likes of John Mayer and Jake Gyllenhal. Loved the reaction!

Sol Gorlero

I think this verse could def be about Joe, I mean it’s not that clear she was talking about her teen years, I’m the same age as Taylor and during our high school years we didn’t have touch screen phones and this part makes me believe she’s talking about a modern phone: “I hear it in your voice, you’re smoking with your boys. I touch my phone as if it’s your face. I didn’t choose this town, I dream of getting out, there’s just one who could make me stay”. Could def be about her spending so much time in England…but who knows

fearless

What’s the meaning of Scorpio Rising?guys I need to know,who can help me understand

lizzy

bonny's side eye at em being like "maybe it's not about joe" SENT ME LOL.

lizzy

those first few lines also just remind me of allusions to joe as blue or light, like "daylight" and in the archer "dark side I search for you dark side but what if I'm alright right here?" .... now she sits in the dark of the room they sued to love for its light?! I am not ok.

Bear

"this is the last time I'll ever call you babe" 😭

Eva

it reminds me of champagne problems in a way with the "she would've made such a lovely bride what a shame she's f*cked in the head they said "

Michael West

I COMPLETELY AGREE with this comment. Let’s not hop on the Joe hate train for no reason. We will never know the full story, but what we do know is that this is Taylor’s perspective that she had at one point during the breakdown of this relationship. Her perspective does not equal the actual truth of this story. Joe isn’t a public person, so we probably won’t ever know his perspective. But we do know, there absolutely is a valid perspective from Joe’s point of view. It’s just that we only get to see Taylor’s

Michael West

They did get the line wrong. But the actual line is “I gave you all my best me’s.”

Kara Norton

refathoming hits different bridge...."you were the one that I loved" PAST TENSE and "you once believed in me" cause he clearly doesn't anymore...truly unwell

Arrow

"I wouldn't marry me either" reminds me of how she once said that sometimes something she says in the moment becomes a lyric in a song (the example she gave was "I'm not a princess" in White Horse). It very much sounds like something she would have said in a conversation to downplay her feelings.

Meg

I think I still see hits different as the start of the relationship and them breaking up for a bit bc it’s like her saying this is weird I usually get over people really quick but this is hitting different and the song has a kinda happy vibe but idk idk it could be after, so much to fathom

Jo

She never owned Cornelia st. She briefly rented it while her apartment was being renovated.

Jo

Boy, physiotherapists all over the world are going to be seriously busy. Don’t hurt yourselves with all this reaching. One song does not make a soundtrack…. I can’t believe some of the horrible assumptions people are making about the relationship. If you are old enough you’ll have had this happen to you or multiple couples you know. After 5/6/7 years one partner wants to marry, needs the commitment, and one does not. It often ends up as the deal breaker and there’s just no going back. So bloody sad. So common.

Jo

The consensus seems to be he should have sacrificed his and his family’s privacy for her. Meanwhile he’s catching the Eurostar with his mates, drinking beers with Justin Vernon at Parisian street side bistros and not worrying about paps and crazy fans. Taylor on the other hand has had the month from hell. Being torn to shreds on socials and the media, stalked, followed home, cameras shoved against her car windows. Every location tweeted out in real time. None of us have experienced that level of fame and I’m not sure it’s fair to attack someone who has, and then decides that they don’t want it, or, psychologically handle it.

David Arch

Has she sung it live yet?

Gabriel Ibarra

Omg that’s an offensive thing for you to say!! That could actually be a possibility🙀

Kristy

Y’all are so smart for putting this on your Patreon because it’s what made me decide to finally subscribe 😂❤️

Karolina Klauza

quoting Taylor "i'm just too soft for all of it"

Jessi Dees

I feel like Joe wanted her to sacrifice her fame and shine on the altar of his privacy. And while he was a breath of fresh air after all her previous relationships, after 6 years, of constantly having to hide some of the parts of her that she is AND SHOULD BE insanely proud of. I also wonder if maybe the pandemic made her realize just how isolated she had been, and releasing folklore/evermore brought back some of her joy in shining as bright as she does. People love her music and connect with that, and those albums brought in so many new listeners. Having your privacy is NOT A BAD THING. But expecting your s/o to sacrifice a huge part of themselves for years and not trying to put that much effort in to trying to support your s/o is sad. I just think they weren't compatible anymore, when she couldn't continue to hide her pain. And he wouldn't admit they were sick. I hope Joe finds someone who wants what he does out of life. And I want the same for Taylor too!

Momin Hassan

I also think as Taylor and joes relationship evolved maybe Taylor felt the burden of the relationship as maybe she didn’t want to let go of joe as he was there for her during her hard time and liked her for just being her but maybe Taylor molded herself for joe to like and keeping that mold on became burdensome and Taylor wanted change. I mean I don’t know Taylor personally but I’m assuming that could’ve been a possibility as well

Misty Gaynair

I’m thinking about how sad she was leading to her doctorate speech the Easter eggs go back pretty far for her to have been processing for that long it breaks my heart

Jenna Bolmgren

Just rewatched the post-evermore Zane Lowe interview and around 25:50, she says “Joe and I really love sad songs.” 😭

Jenna Bolmgren

Welcome to the best seat in the best room 🤗

Derick Mitchell Matthews

🙌🙌🙌 This and Dear Reader will always destroy me..You just feel every word, not an insincere bone or verse in this woman's artistry. You guys are stellar as always, how Taylor makes this song that you just want to sob forever over yet still makes a bop 😂...anyways 💙

Jess

'Frontlines, don't you ignore me, I'm the best thing at this party' reminds me of the Grammy after party where she was at the centre of attention in all of the photos and she was surrounded by everyone else there except Joe who was just somewhere in the background

Jamie Speese

For real, this reaction deserves an award. I come back to it frequently for a serotonin boost🤣

ttpd-24

I don’t think she will ever sing this live. Kinda like the one about her mums having cancer. Way too raw. I hope writing brought her healing, it’s a beautiful sad song.

Christina

this is literally the only way I want to listen to the song now

Riley Swain

One of my friends pointed out that the pause between "unless you're choosing me" and the next "you're losing me" literally FEELS like the moment you put it all out on the line and they don't choose you and you realize they've finally lost you. Every time I listen, that part makes my chest feel hollow now :( you can just feel the defeat

Nathalie Richter

Finding out through this video that you guys are Gemini and Cancer when I’m literally on the cusp between Gemini and Cancer was so validating

oski

ITS TOO MUCH

Jenna Bolmgren

I have probably watched this 20 times because it is so illegal 😭

Clare Heathman

I also think "pathological people pleaser" may have been something Joe had said to her in an argument. To me, it doesn't really sound like something that you would think about yourself until used by someone else in an argument.

Can

YOU’RE LOSING ME ON STREAMING ❤️

pearcemcmahon13

not emily saying lavender haze may have been delusional and now we have those playlists BYE

Tara Ludwig

I've rewatched this video a couple of time because I love your reactions. But.. I'm always struck how you don't see the connection to tolerate it. To me, like Hits Different, it's so obvious that they go together. Maybe it's the timing, but we know she was feeling sad and ignored during quarantine which is when she birthed tolerate it. "I wait by the door like I'm just a kid" to "is that your key in the door down the hallway" to "Now you're running down the hallway" (The last 2 you guys fathomed) (Though I always took it as he was running away from her, from the next fight, from the relationship) From the last disconsolate "I sit and watch you" to "Every morning I glared at you with storms in my eyes" From "What would you do if I break free and leave us..." To "Now the air is thick with loss and indecision". From "I use my best colors for your portrait" to "I gave you all my best 'me's" From "I sit and watch you ..." To "don't you ignore me" From "You assume I'm Fine" to "How can you say you love someone you can't tell is dyin'?" The cracks in their relationship were there for a while, but our unreliable narrator mislead us while also painting a vivid portrait. It was a dark and terrifying forest, if only there weren't so many lovely trees blocking our view. But she kept the truth from us in sweetness. and so we understand and forgive her.

isabel

i have realized that this video is my comfort video.... i watch this at least once a week i love you girls and this song agh love taylor

LindseyMarie

Watching this, feeling every word, crying and fathoming what the fuck to do about my 10yr marriage that feels over in so many ways, but not wanting to throw out everything we’ve built with our 3 young kids 💔

Roshni Kazmi

This is your best reaction ever. I have watched it offensive number of times

Christina

same, rewatching right now!! haha

isabel

here again in july 2025 girls 🤣🫡 i love you and sadly relating to this song a little to hard as of recent lol

K K

I looked up the production, and the heartbeat is literally Taylor Swift’s 😭😭😭

Christina

I'm sorry but this is hands down one of my favorite reactions y'all have which is saying a LOT!!!! like it lives in my brain when I listen to this song and I can't BELIEVE you got it for a surprise song!!!!! you earned it though <3

Hannah

I just realized something. I always thought the metaphor in this song was just about being in a critical condition in a hospital. But it literally just hit me: it’s about being a full-on resuscitation attempt in the ER. “We’re losing her” is exactly what doctors say when they can’t save a patient anymore. I never connected that line to this scenario before. So it’s not just about a relationship slowly getting worse… it’s about one that’s in the most critical, life-or-death moment: the pulse is fading, the face is turning grey, she’s basically slipping into death, panicking for him to save her. No wonder: “all I did was bleed.” She bled out. And even the line “you don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone” is usually something people say when someone is truly gone. I never realized how intense this song actually is. Oh my god.

Hoostock

This song always hits me hard and makes me cry. I can’t believe how this tells us that Joe made her feel. I hope Travis measures up and doesn’t make her feel this way, so far the indications are positive

Laura Stimpfl

The drought has started (your well deserved three week break!) and the rewatched are starting! God, the adrenaline rushes of 2023 were truly something

Pascal

Looking back on this like 3 years later and realizing that she started the Midnights era with "You dont ever say too much" and "ending" it with "do something, say something"

Jenny Fowler

Rewatching this reaction now is just fucking me up royally after fathoming TTPD and LOAS with y’all. Bonny’s comment about Midnights not being black and white re: a breakup album and then TTPD was black and white. Dead. Also, your conversation about her feelings re: marriage make Eldest Daughter so much more special.

sleepless_dream (Lauren)

"I'm about to fold unless you say don't go" "we were cardsharks, playing games.... then you called before I hit the tunnel" etc with Cornelia street afterglow the great war all these moments that almost ended or arguments and things turned around. "how'd you turn the plane around?" the connections are crazy