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Ryne

Funnily enough, this was the first episode of Code Geass I ever saw.

Tyrone Tyrone

Did it make you stop and go watch from the start?

Ryne

It definitely made me want to see more. A cousin of mine was a big fan of the series and she was the one who put it on. Of course when I started it from the beginning to watch it, what I saw in that episode had me anxious for the entire first season.

Whammadoodoo

10 seconds in and Wes is still saying Code Gays… never change Wes! 😂

Oscar Medina

This episode sure is a troll for all the people that saw the cliffhanger ending

Tyrone Tyrone

😄Wes LOVES him some Rome, I wonder who his favorite emperor was.🤔

Tyrone Tyrone

Wes with the eye rub at the end of the episode😆

Barry

At this rate of advancement Suzaku should be Emperor in a few episodes.

charmaine

I don’t think we had to wait between seasons back when it first aired on tv. I don’t know how it was for people who may have watched when the japanese version officially released but back then I was a kid with zero access to the internet so the english release on tv was my only version 😭 I do remember being confused at first and since I didn’t have any internet I had no way of looking up what was going on when the episode first started (which is good because nowadays that’s usually how I end up spoiling myself lol). eventually by the time most of the episodes aired my aunt let me use her desktop and that’s when I realized it was a completed show and I did spoil myself of the ending bc I looked up the final scene.

Nick Hammond

When Lelouch started to issue his command to the royal guard the Baron started to say "It can't be..." so I think they did know about his Geass, but were under the impression that he couldnt use it. It feels like Lelouch caught them off guard with his awakening. Its so jarring not knowing who has their memories messed with when you first watch it. I first saw this way back as a kid back in 2009 and I thought I was watching some fan recreation of the show (I was too naive/young to realize fans couldn't have that level of production quality)

Hayate

This reminds me of the "keikaku doori" scene in Death Note when he recovers his memories and instantly start talking evil again haha

RCG

Didn’t think specifically of that scene but it also instantly reminded me of Death Note at the end when he got his memories back :D

Rasmus

According to my understanding (I wasn’t there) the Japanese would cheer with a cup of sake before a suicide (kamikaze (God’s wind)) mission. Before Pearl Harbor, they knew they weren’t coming back so they cheered for Japan's future and gave up their own.

Joan Paulino

Hearing ghee-ace is always jarring and funny seeing Steph’s face 🤣🤣

Joan Paulino

I watched it as it aired in Japanese, and the gap between season 1 and season 2 was about 2 years I think. At that time, there were rarely any gaps in seasons, so I believed the anime was cancelled.

Wes And Steph

I’ll have to ask! We were reading a book on Nero and I can tell you it’s not him lol I like Augustus Octavius

Chels

(Warning; my comment contains slurs and talk of WW2, probably don't read if it's a hard topic for you) Ooooh that was such good/bad writing 🫢 when the Britannian called the Japanese man "Eleven monkey!" That was equivalent to having someone in an American movie with black slaves or during segregation, pointedly say (excuse the language) "you African nigger!" Like the impact of the word monkey is more weighty in Japan because during WW2 American soldiers that harassed Japanese civilians or Japanese Americans, they'd call them "yellow monkey" and paint it on their walls, or the bodies of civilians they strung up for others to see. oof.. such good writing to show the level of discrimination and how lesser they view the Japanese Elevens and how vile they are treated in society, not just if they act out. But man, so gross. You don't often see that slur in American movies and shows because they try to clean up what happened during WW2 as much as possible, but the Japanese remember. Here, we have a potato museum dedicated to the Japanese internment camp that existed here and who started all the biggest potato farms in Idaho right here in my town, and it talks about the heinous things the owners and their families suffered under segregation here, and my friend, Nappi, talks about the aftermath and how it still affects Japan today. Things got really bad during the 2011 disaster, because people started calling them "yerrowman" or "yellow monkey" again saying they deserved to drown because of pearl harbor. But the thing is, the Japanese government at the time was sacrificing their own civilians and suppressing their own people at the time, so we essentially went in and tortured the people who needed help. We dropped fire cannisters on their straw houses to drive them out, burned their crops when they were living off gruel and rationed water, and the soldiers assaulted the women and children in the zones we took over. When the Japanese attacked, they attacked a military base, trying to be careful of civilians. When we attacked with the atom bombs, we wiped out half their continent, and didn't even aim for the head of government, we aimed at fishing and farming villages. I can't help but feel like the show is calling back to what was happening to the civilians of WW2 Japan and dressing it up as fantasy (there is major restrictions about having WW2 in media because the government feels it will sew resentment, discontent and such and ruin the trades and relations between America and Japan, but Nappi said that you can bootleg movies or use anime to get around them, and they have museums that will talk about the war, though from a matter-of-fact "here's the machines used and what logistically happened." None of the gory truth, so when Hayao Miyazaki kept making movies based in WW2 from the civilian perspective, it was a MAJOR deal, and people wanted Ghibli to shut down. Yet, now they are the biggest animation company. Btw it might hurt you, but I recommend the movie Grave of the Fireflies. It's based on a real survivor's story and she was what they call "a station child." The movie doesn't take place from her perspective, but rather her stories of what she saw happening. I think it's SUCH an enlightening movie and so important for people to watch to remind us that war is heinous, what we did to Japan was unforgivable, and how to not make the same mistakes, because history repeats itself when new generations forget and fall victim to the American inundation of propaganda about how we were the heroes of WW2 and the good guys doing what's right because Japan attacked us unprovoked and it was terrible. I didn't learn until my 20s in college that that's not entirely accurate. We were warned to not enter the war zone, we were warned again when our ships entered, and then they gave us a final warning that they'd attack a military base if we didn't immediately turn away, but we didn't decode the last warning in time because we didn't take it seriously enough. Not saying Japan was justified, obviously the Japanese government was doing horrible things too, but it's just the disproportionate response and the fact we still get fed misinformation or a colored truth about the whole thing that makes me passionate about bringing awareness to how badly we represent our part in history. It's sad that many decades after the fact, we only just had 1 president openly acknowledge our war crimes and apologize to Japan for the lasting scars, and only just honored the Japanese Americans who were killed here in the states as victims of abuse by our soldiers, when Japan did this for ours and English soldiers decades ago already, and many times they have held memorials and honored our victims. It was Obama, btw. For all his mishandlings as president, he is at least a good man. Yet he was even criticized for honoring the Japanese internment camp victims and apologizing for the lasting destruction.) That's my PSA for the day, sorry it's so long and depressing but ya, I think it's important, so I got a wee bit carried away 😅 this show DEFINITELY is reflecting WW2 in specific and subtle ways though that I felt maybe not everyone could catch outside of the obvious and clear "white westerners vs Japanese"

Finisterre

Axis Power apologia in 2026 is absolutely crazy, you are mixing real Allied crimes with outright distortion to launder sympathy for Imperial Japan, and it is revolting. If you want to criticise American atrocities, do that honestly. Do not rewrite one of the most brutal expansionist regimes of the twentieth century into a misunderstood victim. The claim that the U.S. “wiped out half their continent” with the atomic bombs is just fantasy. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were attacks on two cities, not half a continent. They were also not “fishing and farming villages.” Hiroshima was an important military center with tens of thousands of soldiers and military headquarters, and Nagasaki was an industrial city, attacks delivered by the Defender against an Aggressor. Obama also didn't apologize for the use of Nuclear Weapons, only mourning the dead. Also, don't you dare frame the Japanese as ever caring about civilian casualties, as merely 4 years before Pearl Harbour, the Japanese took part in the Rape of Nanking, which resulted in the Death, Raping, Torture and Looting of 100,000-300,000 Chinese Civilians, including the rape of children. The Japanese only killed less than a hundred Civilians, because they had munitions to sink the ships. do you really think that the Japanese would not bomb, rape, and kill the members of the 'Barbarian Race' if they had the chance? You also cannot in good faith use Allied wrongdoing to smuggle in sympathy for Imperial Japan and their genocides of Asian populations before and during WW2. Regarding Pearl Harbour, Keenan, Joseph Berry and Brown put it best in their article 'Crimes against international law' "But the attack of Pearl Harbor did not alone result in murder and the slaughter of thousands of human beings. It did not eventuate only in the destruction of property. It was an outright act of undermining and destroying the hope of a world for peace. When a nation employs a deceit and treachery, using periods of negotiations and the negotiations themselves as a cloak to screen a perfidious attack, then there is a prime example of the crime of all crimes." And I could keep going on the absolute evil that the Japanese inflicted on the innocents of Asia, including. Human Experimentation, Biological Warfare, Chemical Weapons usage, Torture, Execution of captured air and seamen, using Filipino civilians as human shields, cannibalism, deliberate starvation, forced labor, rape, sexual slavery via Comfort Women, the destruction of Heritage, Perfidy by pretending to be dead or wounded, Attacking hospital ships. all totaling millions of deaths during the war.

Xan

Proud of you guys for discussing this in a civilized manner

Xan

Supply Drop, Chels was not downplaying the atrocities commited by the Japanese. He was just pointing out western atrocities alongside western racism. Almost every nation on this planet has committed horrible atrocities some more than others, but it would be wrong to say it is okay to mistreat Japanese people because of their atrocities in China.

Chels

Thank you so much Xan! You pinpointed my intention very well 😅 unfortunately, I know this is a hyperpolatized topic and as someone with Autism I think I struggle a bit to get my intentions across, so I'm glad and grateful you cleared up my point for me. 😊 The point of learning about these things and discussing them is to hopefully never see it repeated. Sadly, I think it's easy to grow complacent and Americans.. we get taught we are the good guys in every decision so we excuse a lot of bad behaviors. Sad situation all around that we can even see happening rn 😞

Qamarul Hafiz

palestinian keep rebelling despite they lost the war multiple times and the repression and brainwashes is getting worse by the oppreassor to evwn make their children think its okay to kill palestinian.