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REQUIEM

When you guys have enough time on your schedule PLEASE do two episodes a week, Love u guys! ❤️

Fabien

9:53 I think it's because in the west the entertainment industry has become dogmatic, in my personal opinion. When it comes to "bad guys" (nazis, esclavagists etc..) any nuance is very difficult to reach. But history wasn't simple, even if most members of the nazi party weren't what we would call good people, they also probably weren't all monsters. At the very least it's clear most of them weren't cowards (even monsters can be brave). Of course the second reason for this difference in Japan, is that they are less traumatised historically by nazism, than we are in the West. But we westerners weren't always this black and white, I remember a movie I saw as a kid, even back then it was considered an old movie (I think it's a 70s or 80s movie), in which an elite group from the German army (under the Nazis, even if they weren't members of the nazi party) was tasked to kill Churchill. Things didn't go as planned and they never do it, they end up saving a British village (I don't remember from what, I don't even remember the title of that movie but it should be famous). From my memory, they were never presented as very critical of the nazis either, they were just nationalist germans doing their duty and expecting to die for their country. Regardless of who is in charge. It was nuanced, and it's weird because I had completely forgotten that movie until recently. Considering how our culture in the west changed over time, especially in cinema, I end up regularly thinking about it again recently. I wonder how different from my memory it is.

Luca99

When are you guys posting the DS movie reaction, cant wait for that one!

Hængeklumpen

allways fun to watch americans react this part of jojo. just for the culture clash :D

The Anime Dude

People aren’t always simple, humans that are monstrous in one area may be noble in another - etc… feel like media that doesn’t portray that is doing the audience a disservice, cuz it’s easy to look at someone who is ALL bad with no redeeming characteristics & go “thank god I’m nothing like that & never will be”, rather than look at someone who actually feels human but was still capable of contributing to one of the worst atrocities in human history. (Granted, this is pre-WW2) There’s a book called “Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101” that portrays middle aged working class men / draftees who weren’t life long Nazis or hardcore ideologues, but gradually… bit by bit… they became the type of people capable of mass murder and shootings during the holocaust due to group dynamics and obedience to authority. Stuff like that can be uncomfortable to read or watch, but think it is better for realistically representing human nature & the evil every person is capable of… that way people are aware that we are all human, we’re all fallible, and it’s important to never let yourself become a monster like that - cuz when it does happen, it’s usually not overnight… & it’s usually to people that try to believe they’re always in the right, who’re gradually nudged & rationalize it to themselves in turn. Basically: as evil as Stroheim is (can’t forget him experimenting with people sacrificing them to the pillar man), I like that they made him feel human. Epic theme song too. 😂

Temojikato

JoJo makes so much sense in its own universe - but try and explain it to your mom and it's GG

Melisfir

JAJAJA "Dios mío, Adiós!" Feliz de escuchar un chiste en español, los tkm <3

Zak

just for historical context - this is in 1938 and English knowledge of German atrocities were limited. everyone knew about the pogroms and the discrimination, but the concentration camps, mass execution and genocidal policies against Jews, Roma, Polish etc was not understood by everyone. So when Jojo says "ah well we have different opinions but i can respect him", it's not with all our knowledge, indeed Germany had very successfully hosted the olympics just a few years before.

Curtis Patrick

If you ever remember the name of the movie, please tell me it. I'm such a sucker for the "enemy helps the other side" trope.

V

Fabien

The genocidal policy only started around 1941-42. And even then, even in Germany it was mostly rumors afaik (I may have to check). Concentration camps existed in 1938 but at this stage, the camps were primarily used for repression, intimidation, and internment. Not destruction and eventually, extermination. Those ideas progressed gradually. Some people can accept almost anything as long as it's a gradual process. The war didn't help too. Even if the main driving force remains the pre-existing ideology of the nazis.

Fabien

Curtis Patrick -> I actually just asked an AI, after all this time I had too ahah. It's The Eagle Has Landed, I'm surprised to discover it's a John Sturges movie, his last. I'll watch it again and see if my kid-eyes were accurate, the only things I remember about it is what I wrote last comment lol.

Tim Tim

Agreed!! Jojo is enormous

NoSoupRice

I love that Jojo characters blame only the fight for them running out of breath, and not the fact that they have been shouting and narrating everything for the past 15 minutes

Oscar Medina

I don't mind them doing just one episode for this part. Once they reach part 3 that's super long maybe

Oscar Medina

You could also call part of the morals pushed at the time by Germany. I have read some books on the quick radicalization of Germany from 1932 to 1939, and it was insane.

RCG

Yeah, Part 2 is fine as it is, I would say but Part 3 isn’t just very long; it also has a lot of episodes that are paired together storywise. So it would be even better to do double drops for that part. We’d just have to look up which episodes are paired, since it’s not always linear.

Sorin

there are even short sayings here in villages in romania that while it was bad sometimes when german soldiers went through their villages it was a lot worse when the russians came through. the germans would pay for what they took a lot of times while the russians stole everything they wanted.

kinetic98

stroheim is my favourite nazi

Marko Genter

trying to explain how some of the powers later on work makes me feel like im explaining quantum physics but im not and im still struggling.

Tim Tim

RCG, True, and it's not just part 3 that has divided episodes

chopchop

Happy! Urepi! Yuropico ne! :D

Wes And Steph

It’s out! But under an acronym title for copyright!