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Mad Men, Season 6 Episode 6 (Patreon)

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Jesus

Hey, Lieutenant - wanna get into some trouble?

Hawaiian Shirt Funeral

The writers did a masterful job using the bar room pitch scene to underline why Don is such a mythical figure in the ad industry. Chaough's pitch is good, but Draper's is just better. Chaough effectively markets a product. Draper makes the product part of an idea that is exhilerating to consider. "The future is something you haven't even thought of yet."

Jesus
>>134223508

Classic Don in that: wasnt even his line - he stole it from the season premiere drunk soldier who’s bride he gave away in Hawaii. Pvt. Dinkins.

Actuarial Lurker

As Jesus said above- Don steals PFC Dinkins' line....and NOW you get to see the SECOND REBOOT....the long game since Season 4 was that the reporter said Ted was in your rear view mirror- Don sabotages Honda for CGC, CGC gets Clearasil when Pete muscles his Father in Law to get Vick's Cough drops, The SCDP CGC rivalry cost Don's firm Heinz beans and CGC Heinz Ketchup, Don fires Jaguar making Lane's death and Joan's prostituting herself meaningless, its implied that Ted fires Alfa Romeo to get Chevy without knowing Gleason was dying, just like Mohawk was fired to go after American Airlines (and which Ted pitched to Pete in the hospital as Trudy is giving birth when the firm loses Lucky Strike to try to poach him in Season 4), Gleason of CGC is dying (horrible inside joke of a Gleason Score being how MDs measure prostate tumor invasion into surrounding tissue for Metastasis). They have been killing each other's firms during season 4 and 5 and the obvious solution that the audience doesn't ever think of...just merge already. The show has been all Ayn Rand for 5 years where Don and Ted need to beat each other with the whole US rugged individualism thing- and it is shown to fail- is Don finally internalizing the 60s youth movement and joining hands and getting along with Ted? Can that last?

Actuarial Lurker

And that answers what happens to Peggy question from your last few episodes- as soon as she took agency and quit, a bunch of male business owners "pull her back in" as the wretched Godfather 3 says- glad to see Joe say the line! Also as soon as Joan takes agency of a sort and becomes a partner- the men wreck the Company- Don fires Jaguar, Pete loses Vicks due to his brothel escapade and father in law...evne Trudy starts to lose her agency by letting Pete back in her bed before tossing him out after Pete rubs the father was in a brothel in her face....so Season 6 is also a female story of what Peggy, Joan and Trudy will do now... As the show ends- who does Peggy work for- Ted, Don, or heaven forbid- herself?

Actuarial Lurker

In the pre-show comments you miss that Ginsburg is NOT gross- his father is by saying they should hook up with women like it was Noah's Ark and The Flood....and what is The Flood except chosen people rising above the chaos while everything else is destroyed. Our privileged characters ARE in the Ark....

Actuarial Lurker

Bobby turned 10 in 1967 so he's not quite 11 in The Flood when he empathizes with the usher- and he even is worried that Henry as a politician might be next to be targeted so he isn't even blameless....only Ginsburg who had survived the Holocaust seems to have empathy

Actuarial Lurker

The irony is that this is the Chevy Vega.....another lemon like the Jaguar- the episode doesn't reveal that- it was what Chevy was designing in 1968...as people watching the show at the time it was running sleuthed out....

Jesus
>>134238736

Yeah which is itself a sort of nod to Abe’s misguided optimism: things are gonna ger better, this crucible we all think we’ve gone through is gonna mean something better is coming soon. Don has been drooling after GM since he was a used car salesman and now he gets it, at enormous cost and effort - but that rare, genuinely gleeful “how ‘bout it” Don that we see for a second has no idea that the Vega is destined to be one of Chevy’s biggest flops. Its another Nixon, another Cambodia.

heheheheheh

I am not American and not from that era, so can someone pelase enlighten me: why was everyone rooting for McCarthy? All I know is the term "mccarthyism" and I know that's not good - so was it a case of hindsight is 20/20? I know I can google this stuff but I want to hear it from the people actually in it.

tom
>>134237751

Yeah, with Bobby empathizing with the usher it was more about the childish obliviousness to social norms. As adults grow into society they learn that embarrassment, awkwardness, shame are around every corner, every human interaction in these very small ways. They learn to avoid those things. But Bobby as a child just says what's on his mind.

tom
>>134237429

Good way of tying the flood metaphor into the whole episode.

Actuarial Lurker
>>134237090

Thanks- seen it 6 or 7 times- especially rewatched during pandemic lock- downs here in the NYC area...

Actuarial Lurker
>>134237751

Out of the mouth of babes...excellent writing since it is just like Season 1's "Marriage of Figaro" where Don builds Sally the playhouse for her birthday and while the parents are inside the 5 and 6 years olds paying outside are mouthing adult suburban married life snipes at each other overheard from their own parents' dysfunctional marriages

Actuarial Lurker
>>134336008

Wrong McCarthy- there were 2. For context, my wife was born in Ireland and became a citizen. To a European or most anyone else, there would be a Socialist Party, a Green Party, a Labor Party which was left, a "Liberal Democratic" Party that was socially left but pro-business, a Conservative Party that was Pro-Business and socially conservative , and a "Far Right" Party (if not illegal!). Currently, a Biden, Obama, Hillary Clinton, or Bill Clinton despite being US Democrats would be Lib-Dems at best if not left-leaning Tory/Conservtai, what is left of normal Republicans would be Conservatives, and Trump/MAGA would be Far Right. FDR (1932-1945) was somewhere between Socialist and Labor, Truman (1945-48,1948-1952) would be Labor, Eisenhower (1952-1960) would be Lib-Dem despite a Republican- he was President at the start of Season 1, the 1960 Nixon-Kennedy election in Season 1 would be a Conservative Nixon vs Labor/Lib-Dem JFK (1960-1963), Lyndon Johnson (1963-64, 1964-1968) would be a current European Labor, the 1968 election had Nixon go proto-MAGA stoking up White grievance and playing to non-College educated angry men afraid of crime and immigrants BUT he was Green and pro-Labor- so an odd populist Right Wing Conservative who still passed Labor laws and environmental laws. the Democrats running against him where EUGENE McCarthy was a Senator from Minnesota from the Farmers/Labor party who was against the Viet Nam War and solidly Labor, RFK S (JFK's brother) was more of Labor/Lib-Dem like his brother. The US has shifted so far to the right in the past 56 years. The 1950s McCarthy was a Right-Wing Conservative anti-communist friend of Nixon

tom

No Sylvia this episode, I sleep. For real though, what a banger of an ep. I knew the merger was coming and watching that scene in the bar happen the first time was so exciting. Just complete anticipation with the "are we really doing this?". Feeling. I love the disconnect at the end there, with Peggy being so stunned she doesn't know what to feel. And it's a great subversion of you guys' initial prediction with her hating her job so moving back. Instead she's forced to work back at her old place and honestly doesn't seem that thrilled at it. Kudos to her for sticking with her ambition and finding a place for herself, although a lot of it clearly has to do with Ted. I'm glad you guys came around a little on Ted. That new character scepticism (plus him being from the Other Side) has relented a little bit, and ironically on the episode where I'd say he actually does the most wrong, with his moment of infidelity. Again just reiterating that I think they took the opportunity with Heinz and it didn't work out, but arguably see Roger and Don do a similar thing this ep. The different factor at play was Peggy inarguably breaking Stan's trust a bit (again maybe I'm harsh but he should have realized the risk). Regardless, I'm also excited to see how that plays out. Mostly because I can't remember. The merger happening in the middle of the season is also a nice twist. I kind of wish it happened later and we just had more seasons of Mad Men, but it's clearly done well to show us a different side of Peggy and emboldened what's to come with this new situation (I forget things also the time so I also noticed her "I don't like change" being like Don at the same time as you guys, love the parallels). I also like the more intimate nature of it just being Don and Ted, the two creatives, and as another comment mentioned Don bringing back that line from the premiere. I feel so bad for Joan. Roger's "Ok, I only have good news" is so hilarious that it took on my second watch (because *that* I did not forget) to see outside of that, and man there's a closeup of Joan's face after he says that and it's just crushing. Episode by episode we've seen the toll that night took on her slowly healing as she becomes more independent and respected, making it feel like she's more powerful than she was before then rather than less powerful. There were comments from people like Harry, but at least it was *for* something. And then this episode Don just throws it away and didn't even seem to care. You guys brought up a great point, if he talked to her beforehand it would've been something but he was only thinking of himself and how he was sick of that guy. You also mentioned it was admittedly satisfying seeing him drop Jaguar which was an unintentional good observation about how the moment works by putting the audience in Don's shoes of selfish, short-term gratification. We saw how close Don and Joan are last season, so it was a first to have some conflict between them (although Don is all smiles by the end of the scene -- fully embracing the professional side of his life, and we know where that leads).

Robert Bauman

I tend to agree that Don dunking on Herb from Jaguar is incredibly satisfying to watch, despite how professionally irresponsible it was. That guy deserves to be ridiculed. Important to note that this is new ground for Don; he's blown pitches from time to time but intentionally sabotaging an account is a new and different type of reckless, and I don't think the partners (at least Joan) are going to forget anytime soon, although Chevy does help lighten the blow.

Robert Bauman

The "I love puppies" line always cracks me up. Hamm's delivery is just very funny for whatever reason. Think it also turned into a very heavily used meme (one of many from the show)

Youtalkingtome
>>134345357

Yeah you nailed it. Everything we love about the show and this episode is right here. The nuances, the jokes, the drama! It's such a gem of a tv show. It's the best of all time

Youtalkingtome
>>134429513

It does. It's all part of that spiral I'm sure. Also Don dunking on him was awesome, it was super reckless though

Weird Magic

FWIW - Lost is my #1 show and I'll figurately fight anybody on the ending :) I saw Kevin's take on G.O.T. in a different video recently and agree with him completely on that one - the final story arcs were fine in Season 8 - it was the execution that failed miserably (IMDB rating show that too). I'm late posting these comments because my wife and I went to Hawaii for our anniversary the last few weeks, on which I took the Lost tour to visit many of the sites where it was filmed. #comeatme (that # says come at me, not come eat me - don't misread it like I immediately did). I've seen the show straight thru 9 or 10 times but with reactors it's got to be pushing 40-50. The Lost issue is that not everybody understood the finale (which IS a fault of the showrunners using the "buck stops here" mindset)...if you understood what the entire story was and the ending - it is the most beautifully created show ever (using my opinion for the last statement). :) All that said - Lost's IMDB for all 6 seasons was steadily excellent. Plus it was transformative for the new golden age of tv - because of some things they did (early adopters of social media interaction, and first adopter for getting a network to put an end date years before they wanted their cash cow end) tv overall has changed so much for the better since Lost pioneered that. Originally airing on May 5, 2013, 'For Immediate Release' is Episode 6 of Season 6 of Mad Men. It is the 71st episode overall and has an IMDB rating of 8.8, placing it as the #2 ranked episode of this season and #14 out of all the episodes shown so far.

Youtalkingtome
>>135514098

Hey congrats to you and your wife! Hope you had a great trip. I have friends that absolutely adore that show and I won't argue with someone if they love a movie or show. I have tons of movies that I love that most don't. Fans of Lost will defend it to the death. Several of my friends have tried to put me on to it but I've been reluctant