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Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. (Youtube Edit) (Patreon)

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2024-06-30 09:43:49
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Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. First Time Watching reaction

You're a wizard Harry. https://www.patreon.com/Youtalkingtome

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Apollo

look idk why this was agreed upon but as a trans person who likes your stuff I will be real, this is a fucking disappointment

thank u next
>>142298062

you are not the only voice. I'm also LGBT and many people can separate art from the artist, which they reiterated themselves in this reaction. if you don't want to watch, then don't. but many people are looking forward to these reactions. I'm only replying to this because I don't want either of them to read this comment and think you represent some broad swath of their viewer base or speak for the LGBT portion of their audience, which you don't.

Maxxie
>>142298062

I have to agree with @thank u next's sentiment. I think we can all agree that Rowling is a turd of a woman, but these movies are good regardless. Besides, Harry Potter is the story of a young boy growing up different and being ostracized because of it, and I'm sure I'm not the only LGBT person to have identified with it as a kid. So let's avoid throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Youtalkingtome
>>142298062

I understand your concerns. We address the fact that we are, indeed, not fans of JK Rowling. Make no mistake: we consider her a bigot. Joe and I decided at the beginning of the channel that we would make a conscious choice to draw a line between the artist and the works we watch. I can't speak for Joe, but I personally took my lead from Ken Burns and his decision to acknowledge that Earnest Hemingway was a terrible person while still enjoying his writing. I believe wholeheartedly that art belongs to the world. I think it is okay to watch John Wayne films, read Jack London's books, and listen to Sid Vicious songs, but people should still have discussions about who these artists really are. The world should not be deprived of great art (even by monsters), and artists who are hateful should not be shielded from criticism in those conversations. We share your disgust with Rowling; she is a hateful, dangerous bigot, and we all need to continue to have those conversations. She is in a long line of artists credibly accused of bigotry (including David Bowie, Yayoi Kasuma, and Walt Disney). Thank you for sharing your thoughts (seriously; we want to have tough discussions about the films and shows we watch), and all I can say is you aren't wrong, but that we have chosen a different approach to the art of controversial artists. Kevin

Youtalkingtome
>>142298062

Thank you for sharing that. The last thing we want to do is upset or alienate anyone who is kind enough to share their time with us.

TouchTheGarlic
>>142298062

As a fellow trans person, I’m going to have to respectfully take a different stance from you, Apollo. I absolutely agree that Rowling’s current words and actions are beyond abhorrent (as do Joe and Kevin, as they state in the video). I would also agree that there are elements in the books - and to a lesser extent the movies - which are problematic in and of themselves. However, there are also a great many themes and ideas in these stories which have enduring appeal, many of which are deeply antithetical to everything Rowling now stands for. Moreover, I refuse to give her the satisfaction of taking away something that I love. I have owned the Potter books and movies since long before she became the TERF-queen of Twitter, and revisiting them every year or so has been an enduring source of joy and comfort through times thick and thin. That being said, I will also gently push back a little on some elements of Kevin’s comment. The idea of separating the art from the artist is one that I agree with as a principle for artist critique and enjoyment, but it does not always act as a complete ethical exoneration. The key difference between Rowling and most of the artists you cited as examples is that Rowling is still ALIVE and actively profiting from her works. The fact is, any new money sent towards Harry Potter is in part going to be funnelled towards campaigns for trans eradication. Personally, I never begrudge people streaming the movies, both because so many artists other than Rowling worked on them, and because streaming residuals are laughably miniscule. However, I always wince when I see people spending oodles of money on Harry Potter merchandise, because I know that a meaningful portion of that money will be used in an attempt to legislate me out of existence. At the end of the day, the issue is sufficiently nuanced that I wouldn’t feel comfortable taking a harsh binary stance and trying to enforce it on others. I believe it is the right and responsibility of each person to carefully and honestly consider the potential negatives and positives of engaging with any given piece of media, and to decide for themselves. Personally, I loved this reaction video, and look forward to watching Joe and Kevin continue with this series.

Youtalkingtome
>>142298062

Very well said. Thank you all for being here and we will not stop calling it how we see it. We love everyone here and want this to be an experience we share with all of you.

Maria Stoycheva

guys, you are going to start getting SO many references after these movies :D for example, I am sure you've heard "Before you get us killed, or worse, expelled." before but now you know where it is from. these are generation-defining books/movies and I am happy you have decided to tackle them (though I still insist that the books are much better ^^)

Youtalkingtome
>>142344528

I can't wait for all the references. Kevin and I are both readers. The only fantasy books I've ever read were from Tolkien and I'm very mixed on them. I've heard nothing but good things about the books and might tackle them at some point

Broccoli
>>142298062

As a lifelong HP fan, when the news first broke I was distraught but ultimately took the 'separate art from the artist, don't support her financially' path. In the years since, as I've turned it over in my head and reread the books a touch more critically than I used to, I've come to see how present J.K.'s awful, small world view is in this story, right from the start. So much vitriol for so many groups. Yes, there are things I love about it still but imho the bad far outweighs the good. Hope you guys enjoy but I won't be watching.