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Postmortem: The Good Place (Patreon)

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2024-11-27 23:26:04
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2026-06
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Warning: contains a few mild Parks and Recreation spoilers

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Chris Warner

Michael Schur released a new Netflix show last week, starring Ted Danson, called A Man on the Inside. I have not watched it but reviews are positive.

Skinny_Obelix

This was an interesting show for me, I really wanted to love it, but I ended up just liking it. I like it more for the swing it took than I did for the execution, mainly because I never really got attached to the characters.

DelGuy03

I'm so glad you did a postmortem! I really felt the need of one. You covered most of the points I was thinking of (including that "the end" isn't really the end -- we seemingly dissolve into specks of light that prod people toward being better). One point that I love about the departures is that, of them all, Chidi is the least undecided -- he declines Janet's offer to sit till he's ready, sticks his hands in his pockets, and immediately strides off through the door. I will add that I agree, on the whole, about the first part of Season 4 being, relatively speaking, the weakest section of the series (but a series so wonderful can carry a temporary weakness or two). The "experiment" was necessary for the overall story, and it thus required new characters for this stretch; but it does feel unbalanced that we then lose sight of them until the finale. At least we find that John is enjoying himself in the Good Place hooking up with great figures of history, and that Brent is still, many millennia later, still cycling through the testing process (as there's no more Bad Place), and may be one of the ones who does so forever.

DelGuy03

I don't think I've seen anyone mention this, but I'm struck by the similarities between The Good Place and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend: both shows that were essentially the vision of one creator, really different in concept and format from anything else on the air, airing in almost exactly the same seasons (one started a year before the other), and both with a 4-season plan from the start, in the course of which they told a complete structured story and rounded it off perfectly.

DelGuy03

New Mike Schur projects: He created a series starring Ted Danson called A Man on the Inside. Its 8-episode (half-hour episodes) first season JUST landed on Netflix last week. I'll say no more except that I've enjoyed the 2 episodes I've seen so far. (Oh... and Shawn and Pillboi are on it as well!)

Amelie W

"If life is perfect and goes on forever, does anything matter?" is a good question. I propose that's a stage where the training wheels will have to come off humanity - we'll then have to decide for ourselves what matters and probably work very hard to make it matter, rather than having the value of things prescribed by scarcity. Tahani gets it I think.

DelGuy03
>>156623970

Of all people, Lewis Carroll (in one of his less-known novels) had an interesting perspective on this: just as young children can't imagine how adults can fill their lives with absorbing activity and thoughts, so we living people can't imagine what will interest us when we have all eternity to exist in. It's literally beyond our understanding now.

John Marnell

Personally I think Parks and Rec gets good pretty early in season 2. My favorite episode is "Practice Date" where Leslie goes out drinking with Ann to prepare for her date with Louis CK and then shows up drunk at his place after. SO many great lines in that episode. "What if I mention Darfur too much? What if I don't mention Darfur enough?" "I don't have a niece....my niece's name is....Torple?" "You make a better door than a....guy....." "Can I use your bathroom? Are you impressed I know what it's called?"

Maria Stoycheva

When I was urging you to get tissues these last few weeks, it wasn't because I thought the ending was sad. It is sad in the moment, surely, hence the tissues, but it is otherwise a very calming ending. Even invigorating, if you think about it. I cry every time, because our characters are 'dying' (we will not see them again) and because they seem so much more content with their lives than I am and I get fomo :D But I agree with Kevin, it is not ultimately a sad ending. in fact, our characters got exactly what they wanted - what could be happier than that?

Maria Stoycheva

Let me second the proposal for Michael Schur's new show, A Man on the Inside - I haven't seen it, but I would love to. Also, again, Nobody Wants This - another interesting show I think you would enjoy ^^

Youtalkingtome
>>156645731

I was emotional through the ending for sure. Like I said, it wasn't the "endings" that got to me, it was the saying goodbye. I think that really reinforces the show's themes of making a positive impact on the lives of others.

Youtalkingtome
>>156622496

Yeah, there is definitely a similarity, it was fitting that we chose this show to replace it. Both are amazing.

Youtalkingtome
>>156622132

The Brendt bit is really funny. I just thought that we'd get there with his character. I really loved S4. I enjoyed that we got quite a bit of Maya Rudolph and it just brought up so many interesting ideas. This is literally a perfect show.

dys
>>156621422

Doesn't scratch the same itch at all for me, but not bad so far.