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Katharine Hepburn, Peter O'Toole, Anthony Hopkins, Timothy Dalton, Nigel Terry, Jane Merrow

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Jonathan

One of my favorite movies . This reaction was great with you not knowing the true story so you don’t go in knowing plot armor. I really liked Katherine before this movie and loved her after seeing this. It was so good she was talked into doing this to get out of her grief from Spencer Tracey’s death. She tied with Streisand for Funny Girl as best actress co winners. This was Anthony Hopkins first movie and he had a crash course in film acting as this was shot.

Jonathan

Richard and John are the well known English kings from Robin Hood and Ivanhoe. In real life Geoffrey died 3 years after the events of the film plotting with Philip. They did another revolt against Henry but he and Richard reconciled and Richard succeeded him and Eleanor outlived everyone but John living to be 80.

Jonathan

This film is part of of an unofficial film series. Peter o’Toole previously played Henry in Beckett which didn’t have as good of writing, and he was even less likable. He received best actor nominations for playing Henry in both. James Goldman, the writer of this wrote a version of Robin Hood, which, of course features, Richard and John with different actors Sean Connery, and Audrey Hepburn were Robin and Marian in that. And he also did a fantastic movie about the Russian royal family. Nicholas and Alexandra In 1978 the BBC made a television series of the story of Henry and his sons with a young Brian Cox, playing Henry in one of his first roles.

Michael Soukup

Thanks for the reaction! I hope you liked it. Hepburn won her 3rd Oscar for this and I think gave one of the great performances of all-time. I also have affection for this film because it was my mother’s favorite. 🤷‍♂️

Jérémy

This was freaking fantastic! Thank you to the person who requested it. I'm obssessed with the toxic relationship between Henry and Eleanore. I did the standard wikipedia dive after watching and I was happy to learn that Hepburn won the oscar for that performance (her 3rd win at the time). You could clearly tell that this was based on a play but the cinematography was still gorgeous regardless of how static it was. I knew I recognised Timothy Dalton from somewhere (I've never seen the older Bond films). Turns out he was in Penny Dreadful, a great gothic TV Show that I adored before it was tragically cancelled. I'm glad I watched this one, I needed something witty and vicious.

Jeff

This is such a great pick! And it never occurred to me that it can be considered a Christmas movie, kind of like "Die Hard." And yes, this movie was referenced in "West Wing" in a conversation between Bartlet and Toby. Just to clarify a few questions you had: Shakespeare lived about 450 years after this time period, and even though he wrote "King Lear" in the early 1600s, it was based on a legend which was first written down in the 12th century. So even though there are similarities with the stories, the legend of King Lear and the history of Henry II are probably not related. Even though the dialogue and specific events in the movie are fictional, they do accurately represent the feelings and power struggles between all of these historical figures. Henry II's father was the first of the Plantagenet line, and 300 years later two branches of the family, the House of Lancaster and the House of York, would engage in the Wars of the Roses. That later period is the history that George R.R. Martin used as the basis for "Game of Thrones," creating the Lannisters and the Starks. Besides the magic and the dragons, the monstrous and bloody behavior of these families is true to history not exaggerated. Following the events of this film, Geoffrey died three years later, and Henry ruled for another six years until his death in 1189. Richard I then ruled for nine years, known as Richard the Lionheart. One of his first acts as king was to release Eleanor from prison; she then ruled as Queen Mother until her death in 1204. After Richard's death, John ruled for seventeen years, resulting in the collapse of the empire and the loss of most of the French lands to King Phillip. Then there were a couple centuries of guys named Henry, Edward, and Richard ruling and killing and dying. Your closing discussion about "See you next year! We'll do it again!" made me think of the series "The Crown" (which many of us hope you'll watch someday). All that dysfunctional family behavior of the British monarchy carries on for about 800 more years and still plays itself out in modern times. A good follow-up to this movie is a kind of prequel from 1964 called "Beckett." It also stars Peter O'Toole as Henry II, but about 15 years earlier.

Cathy Gillies

My favourite Christmas movie with my favourite dysfunctional family! Such great performances and a well deserved Oscar for Hepburn. Henry actually was a pretty good king but his family life was a disaster. I would Philip was the ultimate winner, easily beating John after Henry and then Richard died.

Youtalkingtome

Thank you for the post-succession follow-up. The film definitely set up the relationship dynamics well to fit the historical timeline (Richard succeeding, his freeing of Eleanor). We are absolutely going to watch The Crown at some point (my knowledge of the history of the British monarchy is limited; it is not something I have ever taken a strong interest in).

Youtalkingtome

And such a terrific cast! I also am not a huge Bond fan (Joe is the resident Bond fanatic), but he is perfectly cast in this movie.

Youtalkingtome

She really was exceptional in this. I'm glad she was justly rewarded for it. This was a blast as a dysfunctional family drama with high political stakes.

Youtalkingtome

Hard to believe this was Hopkins' first film. He really was exceptional playing opposite some acting legends. I feel like Nigel was in a different movie from everyone else. :)

Actuarial Lurker

Now please do Shadowlands with Anthony Hopkins and Debra Winger

Toc

Wow! Kate Hepburn and Peter O'Toole mixing it up, with a fantastic script! This was actually the second time Peter O'Toole had played Henry II, he had played him in "Becket", and is just as hilarious and magnetic as he is in this movie. (Richard Burton however is nowhere near as good a foil to him as Katharine Hepburn is!)

Joy M

As a student of history and a genealogy buff (and descendant of King John, and also of Princess Eleanor (not in the movie)) NONE of these people were good. They all married their daughters and sons off for alliances and went to war with their in-laws anyway. They accused their cousins of treason and had them executed. It was better to be a poor farmer, tending his crops and sheep than to be related to these people. I have yet to see one of these marriage alliances in medieval and renaissance Europe result in peace and prosperity. The fact that they did this over and over again boggles my mind. They should have just married who they wanted to mix up the gene pool and stave off the birth defects.

arthistorian

Amazing movie! I love how each line is crafted! It is based on England's Henry II. Fun fact, Richard becomes King (Richard the Lion Hearted), but when he goes off on crusades, John usurps power (and becomes the villain featured in Robin Hood lore) 🫅 when John does succeed as king, he is strong-armed into signing away much of his power in the Magna Carta. And Eleanor is one of my favorite figures in history!

Youtalkingtome

I love a movie in which the cast is so good that everyone elevates his or her performance to match. These performances were terrific.