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Peter

Mrs. Kim is an extremely toxic mother. She literally does not know her own child on a most basic level, nor has any desire to know her.

Peter

How great is Melissa McCarthy in this show? Absolutely effervescent!

Peter

Jess is a highly intelligent kid who has been profoundly traumatized and is stuck in a saccharine world against his will. He's "trouble" in the sense that he will test boundaries and have radically different priorities from every other character. But he is not actively malicious.

Peter

Jess shitting on Ayn Rand makes him fifty times more dreamy.

Oceanflower

(apologies for the long comment haha) I think this episode really sort of introduces to you why a lot of us don't like Dean. Dean is to me an issue cause he's a stereotypical nice guy. Harmless looking, nice and polite, liked by parents and the general adult populace. But his actions often don't match his image. He consistently becomes outright aggressive when he doesn't like someone and is controlling and territorial over Rory. I do wonder how his actions would be perceived if he was build like a muscly high school linebacker, instead of a tall version of 90s DiCaprio. As for Jess, to me he is a typical 'bad teen', a good person under layers of hard edges and bad choices. He's a bit of a dick at first but many of his shitty actions are motivated by calls for attention or misguided expression of affection (i.e. the snowman). My teen years were also hellish and it also me hard-edged and difficult to be around. So to me it was obvious that underneath it all, his core traits and values are good and tbh I also was a goody two shoes bookworm and crushing hard on the bad boys so really, I get Rory :'D

Youtalkingtome

All good points. We have seen hints of this reactionary, fly-off-the-handle Dean before, which you can excuse for him being an insecure kid. But it is so habitual by this point that it has to cross the line into red flag territory. It's one thing for him to hate Jess or Tristan, but his need to FORBID Rory from interacting with them is extreme. This episode even reminds the audience that Dean was perceived as trouble early on. But I think you're right on: If Dean was played by a young Taylor Kitsch instead, he would definitely seem more dangerous and menacing.

Youtalkingtome

I agree his antisocial behavior comes from a sincere place of trauma and can absolutely be redeemed out of it, but I won't lie. Stealing and damaging other people's businesses and property really bums me out.

AlecSinWonderland

This episode made me dislike Rory so much. I felt so bad for Dean, and I don’t blame him for feeling betrayed.Rory choosing Jess who’s very obviously messing with Dean is a dealbreaker. If I were him I’d dump her on the spot. Wdym you’re going out to eat with the guy that swung at me??? Absolutely not.

fire12wife

You forgot to talk about Jackson's proposal to Sookie! It was so sweet, and Melissa McCarthy played it so well! Her asking Jackson if he was pregnant gets me every time! Hilarious!!

Luíza Fernandes

Okay I just watched your reaction and the Ayn Rand hate at the end was everything I hoped for 😂😂 I don't think Rory actually liked her as anything other than a fictional writer but yeah, that's still a weird hill to die on...

Luíza Fernandes

He FORBID her to go on that date. He didn't even allow her to respond, he was just telling Jess she wasn't going. Honestly if anyone was going to break up on the spot it should have been her

Aude M

As a non-American, the first time I heard about The Fountainhead and Ayn Rand, I had to look her up. Even now, I didn't remember exactly what this was about and had to be reminded of. Watching this show is teaching you so much things, cultural and political !

Roland

People trashing on Dean, while cutting Jess all the slack.... I dunno if that comes from foreknowledge (I hope not, no implied spoilers please). Teenage romance is messy, we get that, but if Rory truly loved Dean, she wouldn't be doing any of this. I mean, I always thought Dean and Rory was a pretty dumb match to begin with, Dean's loveable puppy persona isn't the basis for any serious relationship. And indeed, Jess was able to shred that thin veneer almost immediately. But that relationship was Rory's choice. Kudos to Dean for going after someone out of his league. And I actually like that Dean went to Lorelai, not as Rory's mother, but as Rory's best friend. Let's not forget that Lorelai gave Dean this whole speech about how the whole town is watching....well where's the support in the other direction? We've seen really dumb love triangles in a hundred other shows, but this one is interesting because all three of the players are deeply flawed, and their support networks appear to be doing more harm than good. I'm invested, albeit still trying to thread my needle between cynical detachment and goo-goo eyes about these particu6 romantic entanglements. My wife gives me a hard time because I love me some rom-coms and chick flicks, but I actually think that makes me better-equipped to appreciate the writing here, there's some clever layering going on here that we don't usually see in these things.