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jimmy2k4o .

You suspected last week when you heard that Margot’s last name was “Verger” that she made me related to Mason Verger from the Hannibal 2001 film You may not know thZat in the Hannibal novel Mason has a sister called Margot, who he abuses regularly I’m talking exclusively about the original stories in the books, not revealing anything about the future of the show. Given the different tones and storyline (as well as pacing) a like for like recreation of the books or movies in the show would be impossible. For example it’s no secret that NBC’s Hannibal could never acquire the rights to any character who first appeared in ‘silence of the lambs’, like Clarice. It is one of the most famous "oops" moments in Hollywood history. Dino De Laurentiis technically did own the rights to the character of Hannibal Lecter, but he basically gave The Silence of the Lambs away because he thought the franchise was dead.  Here is the breakdown of how that happened: 1. The "Manhunter" Flop In 1986, De Laurentiis produced Manhunter (the first adaptation of the book Red Dragon). It was a box office failure. Because it performed so poorly, Dino became convinced that audiences weren't interested in Hannibal Lecter or Thomas Harris's books.  2. The "Free" Loan When Orion Pictures approached him about making The Silence of the Lambs a few years later, Dino didn't want to produce it himself. He was so uninterested that he lent the rights to the Hannibal Lecter character to Orion for free.  He essentially said, "You can use the character, I don't want any money, and I don't want my name on it." He didn't want to be associated with what he thought would be another flop.  3. The Result: A Rights Mess Because Orion Pictures produced the movie and Dino stayed away, the rights were split into two camps: • Dino De Laurentiis: Kept the rights to the character of Hannibal Lecter and the books Red Dragon, Hannibal, and Hannibal Rising.  • Orion Pictures (now MGM/Amazon): Owned the rights to the film The Silence of the Lambs and any character that first appeared in that specific book, most notably Clarice Starling.  Why this matters today This "divorce" is why the franchise is so fractured. • The Hannibal TV Show: Could use Hannibal and Will Graham, but they were legally forbidden from using (or even mentioning) Clarice Starling or Buffalo Bill because MGM owns them.  • The Clarice TV Show: Could talk about Buffalo Bill and Clarice's past, but they were legally forbidden from saying the name "Hannibal Lecter" because the De Laurentiis estate owns him.  Dino eventually realized his mistake after Silence won five Oscars and became a massive hit. He jumped back in for the sequel, Hannibal (2001), but by then, the "Clarice" rights were already locked away at MGM. After Dino saw the potential he made Hannibal then (since he ran out of books) he remade red dragon Then wanting more he asked Thomas Harris to write another book, Harris declined. Dino reminded him that he owned the rights to the characters and will simply make a Hannibal prequel film without Harris if necessary. Harris feeling boxed in, agreed to write a origin story for Hannibal The book and the movie were received so badly that this time it made Dino give up on the Hannibal series. Once he gave up on Hannibal mistakenly after Manhunter unaware of the potential, now he’s given up on Hannibal rightfully. His instincts were never right: giving up on Hannibal after manhunter. Giving the rights to silence to Orion for free. Replacing Jodie and Jonathan. Remaking red dragon with a less interesting will, less interesting direction, showing too much Hannibal (I think he has 2 scene in the book, the first meeting and when will calls him. Also the way the producers blackmailed Harris into writing a book he never wanted to, exploring the origins of a character that Harris never wanted to be ‘understood’

Pam Nail

This was a pretty controversial episode when it aired, not only because of the Will stuff, but also the portrayal of Margot. It's still wild to me that they establish that she is a lesbian and then have her in a love scene with a man before we ever see her with a woman (not even a love scene, ANY scene where she's even on screen with a woman). We heard his voice a few episodes ago, but this is our proper introduction to Mason Verger (as played by Michael Pitt). Any and all references to chocolate are VERY delicate dancing around his crimes in the Hannibal novel, most of which involve children and that is definitely all I care to say about that. This is a tough episode, especially on first watch. I don't like seeing Will on this path either (I don't know that anyone does), but I always hope this makes people curious enough to at least keep watching.

Kristi Govertsen

Have faith. You’re still in the middle of the (insanely wild) ride that is season 2. Whether you love it or hate it moment to moment, I do recommend reserving judgement on storytelling choices until you get through the entire arc of this particular story😉.

Roland

> Naka-choko (中猪口) refers to a small, acidic, or refreshing soup served as a palate cleanser during a traditional Japanese kaiseki meal, typically positioned between savory dishes to prepare the palate. It acts as a transitional dish, often serving as a metaphor for a "cleansing" moment in media. <

Roland

"Long pig" was the name for human (flesh) used by the cannibals of Papua New Guinea(?).

Eliska Duchtikova

The second half of season two is a wild ride, and also my favourite. Keep on watching :)

Clare Manion

“I feel like Stradivarius.” No, no, no. None of that. Stradivarius made exquisite string instruments; not whatever depravity this is. Everything about it is cruel. That whole conversation between Will and Margot was... A choice… Yeah, I agree, it definitely feels like we’ve strayed into shark jumping territory. I hope not. But it’s real tough right now.

Actuarial Lurker

This is off the rails from the start...its becoming crappier each week just like Game of Thrones did