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Andor, Season 2, Episode 4 - Uncut Version (Patreon)

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2026-08-07 22:20:57
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2026-08

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Ever Been to Ghorman?

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Ian Mossner

Lonnie belongs on the Mount Rushmore of Rebel heroes.

Suzanne Whyte

The Ghorman language is based on French.

Mathilde

As a native French speaker, watching the Ghorman episodes was so confusing! My brain didn't understand the language but my ears were convinced I should be able to! 😅

James Anthony

The device that Wilmon presented to Saw was a machine to siphon rhydonium (starship fuel) from the empire.

Suzanne Whyte

It’s crazy how much effort they put into making sure all the details of the show worked. They could have had the Ghormans speak French or English with a French accent but instead they created a Ghorman language. Even if they based it on existing languages that’s a lot of work that lesser shows wouldn’t have bothered doing.

Jonathan

Every time Luthan makes an appearance it reminds me you guys haven’t watched Chernobyl yet.

Ciarán Carr

I think someone else has said similar but essentially the Ghorman language is purely fiction ( a blend of german and french phonetics but mostly nonsense). However they hired French actors to play all of the Ghorman speaking roles, adds a layer of authenticity without the writers having to invent a whole new language

Kevin Biever

Chernobyl is fantastic, definitely a must watch.

dys

Only knowing a little French it threw me off too, usually I can understand about every third word of spoken French so I kept thinking "am I THAT rusty that I can't understand any of this?" It's like that one song by an Italian singer made to sound like English without any actual English words.

Youtalkingtome

I am constantly blown away all the detail work they do on this show to create cultures and customs.

Jonathan

It’s only 5 episodes so it’s good if you want a short series.

Joshua Taylor

Based on French but still a fake language with French, German and Italian actors speaking the lines! Crazy stuff. Gilroy could have easily made a series about the French resistance in World War II but he graced the Star Wars world with his storytelling. Which makes the messaging hit harder.

Joshua Taylor

FYI, Supervisor Heert aka the sharp featured guy who now has Dedra’s job, was her assistant in the first season.

james repka

And, since you just finished watching Fargo season 4, Chernobyl affords you another opportunity to see Jessie Buckley work!

Michael Bennett

Syril has really found his mojo since the days of spiffing up his private security uniform.

dys

Stellan Skarsgard has all the gravitas in the world, and he brings that in Chernobyl too, and it's a skilled ensemble cast much like Andor but Jared Harris is by far the true highlight in Chernobyl.

Suzanne Whyte

Ghorman’s primary industry is fabric and clothing so really Cyril should feel at home with the Ghorman people who also appreciate good tailoring.

Roland

> In Andor Season 2, showrunner Tony Gilroy intentionally modeled the planet Ghorman as a direct tribute to the French Resistance of World War II. Having been profoundly inspired by the historical accuracy and nuanced character writing of [the WW2 French Resistance / Collaborationist TV show] A French Village, Gilroy used the series as a primary blueprint to construct the Ghorman front. The visual, thematic, and linguistic design choices built a highly specific "French Resistance in space" atmosphere. Creative Immersion & Community Cooking: To capture the authentic communal ties seen among the characters in A French Village, Gilroy and the production team specifically cast a heavy contingent of French-speaking actors to populate the planet. Once cast, actors like Thierry Godard and Richard Sammel lived together in a shared house during production. They cooked, bonded, and built off-screen relationships so that their on-screen chemistry would mirror the tight-knit, deeply familiar, and protective nature of a real occupied wartime community. Creating a French-Phonetic Galaxy: Rather than using standard English or existing galactic dialects, the show's creative team invented a complete language for the planet called Ghor. Linguists engineered Ghor entirely around French phonetics and mouth shapes so it would sound natural to the French cast. By the time filming began, the actors had spent so much time living together that they were actually able to improvise dialogue on set using the fictional language. Architectural & Interior Defiance: The production design for the capital of Ghorman leans heavily into European historical aesthetic structures to visually combat the cold, geometric fascism of the Empire: The Cityscape: The urban fabric features worn stucco walls, tight cobbled alleys, sloped rooflines, and chimney stacks designed to mimic Parisian height restrictions and historic skylines. The Interiors: Spaces like the local cafes are designed with flowing, ovaloid wood frames heavily influenced by the Art Nouveau movement. This craftsmanship serves as a quiet, visual rebellion against mechanized imperial uniformity. Fragmented Factions and Moral Compromise: Thematically, A French Village is famous for shunning simple "heroes vs. villains" tropes, opting instead to show the messy reality of occupation—infighting among communists, Gaullists, and ordinary citizens, alongside the complex human motivations of collaborators. Gilroy mirrored this exact grit in Andor. The Ghorman resistance isn't a monolith; it is a fractured, insular community dealing with paranoia, internal rivalries, imperial propaganda, and the devastating moral costs of fighting an overwhelming authoritarian regime. < Adding A French Village to the watch list would be a bold move. But if it's good enough for Gilroy.....

Roland

> Two notable French actors from the show A French Village (Un village français) appeared in season 2 of Andor as part of the creative team's conscious nod to French resistance history for the Ghorman storylines: Thierry Godard plays the character Lezine in Andor. Richard Sammel (credited as Richard Samel) plays Carro Rylanz, a resistance leader on the planet Ghorman. <

Anndra

A lot of the Ghorman stuff is consciously homaging the French Resistance TV show A French Village, iirc. Even the "I have friends everywhere" codephrase is lifted from it.

Anndra

Ah, I just commented about this (with less detail) before seeing your comments!

Joshua Taylor

Very cool. Thanks for the recommendation! I will check it out.

Roland

Another thing to add is that Gilroy didn't have the set / set location* he really wanted in Season 1, so by the team Season 2 finally got rolling Gilroy had been able to build Ghorman just how and where he wanted. *The Ferrix set wasn't ideal for filming, and was about twenty miles away, so the commute was a hassle. Ghorman was outside Gilroy's office. 😍 Additionally, the cast would gush about the production effort to promote realism to help the actors' immersion. The cupboards in the stores in Ghorman would have actual products in them for example.

Lola Lirola

See, I am loving this season, but I can feel the strain of the compressed timeline. They were planning for / supposed to do 5 seasons and I think the execs panicked at how well laid-out the leftist politics were, and cut it down to two. And I keep wishing we had 5. I want a whole season of Dedra and Cyrus! I want a whole season of hardening Andor into a resistance fighter, not just three episodes! I want Bix to get stronger over one season, not be almost non-verbal one episode and saying "I can handle more than you think" after a "one year later" title card. I want to go through the whole thing! I feel some character beats are a bit rushed. Still, I continue to be impressed by the show, don't get me wrong. The way they're handling the cut timeline setback is truly spectacular. And the fact that a show like this actually got aired feels almost miraculous in these dire times.

Lola Lirola

Also, secretly here for all the "Boba Fett was in it for like 30 seconds / Thanos didn't want people to run out of groceries" pettiness, because same!!

Yannick, from Montréal

Everything has been said about Ghorman and the French Resistance parallel so I won't fret on this (me too, as a french native speaker was both in awe and confused about what I was hearing during my first watch). What I also really love is to see all the undercover plays (Syril & Lonnie), and then Mon trying to get the political front going, coming back with the Ghorman Senator to the P.O.R.D. that was introduced after Aldhani in season 1 and how it was supposed to be temporary, while the ISB pushing for more intense churning of forced labour. All the pieces are set for boiling up to the max!

Lola Lirola

I didn't know and I thought it was French for a second until I realized I didn't actually understand what they were saying at all! 😅

Lola Lirola

Ah! I just commented exactly the same!! I know some French and I was like "wait... am I so tired and rusty that I don't understand anything at all??"

Yannick, from Montréal

I also wished for the extra seasons... until I heard what both Tony Gilroy and Diego Luna said about it (It takes about 2-3 years to complete a season, so to do the last 4 seasons would make it impossible to link at that point with Rogue One) : "Ultimately, it was born out of desperation. We were halfway through shooting season 1, coming through Covid, and the monumental size of the show, the effort, and everything else was just dawning on us. We realized that I didn't have enough calories to do it, and Diego's face couldn't take the timing, because it just takes too long to make it. We were saved by Disney saying, 'Okay, if you guys can figure out a way to do it, we're into it.'" "It's a fascinating experiment and I don't know if anyone's ever done it before. We're going to jump a year between each block, and we're going to use that negative space in a really interesting way, coming back for three days at a time, so it's like a Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. The challenge is, how do you come back [to start each chapter]? We wanted to have it be as elegant and seamless as possible, and just hit the ground running. There was a lot of experimentation to make sure that would work."

Lola Lirola

Ah, I can appreciate all that work and dedication!! And he's right that at a pace of 12 years for the whole series it would end up losing steam. But... still. I think this was too fast! 😩 It's a whole season compressed into 3 episodes!

Carl Wilson

Are we posting AI summaries to the comments now?

Carl Wilson

I'm sad that they didn't have at least *some more space to make the series they wanted, though the challenges definitely seem vast. This episode is the one where I first started to feel the rush - almost everything about it. Cassian's character has made a big shift, while I find it hard to imagine we're going to get much more for Bix than a tragic decline while he gets caught up in whatever new perils and adventures Ghorman brings. At least *one more season would have done justice to what they've been building. I'm sure the rest of this season's going to be good, but the pacing already feels less satisfying than the previous one.

Roland

You will hopefully appreciate from my other posts that I am more knowledgeable than most on WW2 history, Resistance history, and espionage tradecraft. I supply data from a number of sources. If you go back to the S1 threads for example, I think I was the first person to reference A French Village, which I took from Tony Gilroy's multiple interviews on The Watch podcast*. So in this particular case AI helped me collate my disparate bits of knowledge into a coherent summary, rather than just me having thrown a broad ignorant question at a thirsty datacenter. *which are awesome by the way

Lola Lirola

Yeah, same! I think if they had one more season, they could dedicate 6 episodes to each arc, instead of 3, and it would be more satisfying. To be fair, I haven't watched this season, I only watched the first one before. And I remember people being really impressed by the end of this, so I'm not gonna complain super hard, but... I'm noticing the rush, like you.