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The West Wing, Season 2, Episode 3 (Patreon)

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The West Wing, Season 2, Episode 3

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MarkyO

Looooove this episode. Alot of trivia for this episode but the one that stands out to me is that the whole speech that Bartlet gave the "Dr" was actually heavily influenced by a letter that went viral on the internet.

Joy M

A chocolate egg cream is tasty. It’s kind of like a float with milk instead of ice cream. I used to get them in Denver at Steuben’s.

Sunkrish Bala

The "God Bless America" chorus is a little schmaltzy.

Sarah P
>>104233432

I second this. It’s not for everyone (I don’t love sweet things), and this show was the first place I heard of it, but as both a now-longtime-New-Yorker and a fan of fizzy things, I’ve tried one since and liked it. It’s one of those weird combos that just generally works!

Sarah P

This episode got so much done! As you experienced, the S1 finale arc was unexpectedly violent and scary for this show. As the first episode after that, I love that this episode refused to slow down even a little. Just because we’re back to the offices and rapid-fire walk-and-talks, our people are still feeling the crisis they went through, and I love that the show lets us spend more time with it. Underneath, we need it and so do they. I was surprised they had time for the Jenna Jacobs bit, the Charlie’s guilt bit, and the Charlie/Zoey convo all in the last half. That, on top of time-jumping through all the midterm stuff, the ENTIRE saga of Sam’s friend running from start to finish, dealing with Toby’s anger, Jed’s obsession with the school board race, him and Toby airing their feelings together . . . how was this thing not like 2 hours long??

Youtalkingtome
>>104236967

It is, but that's Sorkin for ya. Kind of like our generations Frank Capra. It totally works for this show.

Youtalkingtome
>>104243490

Great writing. The show is paced so well that the 45 minutes just breeze by. It's truly uncanny how well this show is structured. It does seem like a lot to cram in but it just works!

Pam Nail
>>104236967

That has always read as sarcasm to me. They're talking about all the time and energy and money they spent trying to change something and ended up changing nothing.

JVTrickypants

When like Kanye say vile things it is free speech, but there are repercussions....just not ones where the person ends up in jail.

Skinny_Obelix

Limiting free speech on the extremes is definitely possible, most of Europe definitely has laws that limit free speech. Things like denying the holocaust are punishable by law. However, as a foreigner looking in, I think it's extremely dangerous in a country with the electoral system you have. In a de facto two party system you don't have the security of third parties putting a halt to extreme positions of the largest party. When I'm in the US I'm horrified to what, especially on the local level, this binary mindset can lead. We here in Belgium definitely have problems of our own, but it's possible for political parties to cater to the center and not to the extremes. Being centrist in the US seems problematic, while over here, it's pretty much where you want your country to be. As a voter you steer the ship slightly left or right where you want it to go. But it goes gradually, you're not driving the country with a steering wheel, not with the left and right arrow on a keyboard.

Luca Siracusa (Bob)

As much as I loved the "Putting the Bible Extremist in her place" speech, I am kinda sad that was the clip of TWW that really went all over the internet. As much as Bartlet is right, that was a "feel good speech" that did nothing for the situation of her program and just helped the staff feel a little better putting some extremist in their place. Leo almost makes fun of it in his last scene when he says "It was something about a dead's pig's skin" and you see the reactions of both Zoey and Charlie to the weird information That being said, the whole episode is really sweet and calm: it lulls you and holds you close after those crazy three ones about the Shooting, or better: lynching. They did a lot of work with Charlie, showing depths of his character and his past. The way he handles his relationship with Zoey, with Bartlet as a father figure, with the staff around him and with what happened that still haunts him I loved how Toby and Jed were so focused on such specific things to be done: they are the two moral points of the show, they collide a lot because of their characters and personalities, but I think they are the ones with the biggest hearts among them. Not to undermine Leo, Josh, CJ or Sam (even if he could be a close third), they care so much about every small detail of being a good administration and helping people in every aspect that it becomes like they care too much if that's possible Ironically I loved the first 3 quarters of the episode much more than the last "resolution part" and not because it was bad, but because The West Wing reaches his peaks when human emotions are real, when they struggle because of their hearts, when you see they are simply GOOD people. Even tho, the "I meant Secret Service Charlie, but thanks for putting that image in my head" bit makes me laugh a lot, and I wish the president was there to see his reaction

Youtalkingtome
>>104256212

Sure, there are consequences to everything good or bad. Free speech is important but it does ride a thin line. People are influenced by so many celebrities. Hopefully people can see that the man is clearly insane and that there is plenty of people in this world using their platform for good. Not just psychos yelling into the void.

Youtalkingtome
>>104258425

This is a tricky subject. No one and I mean NO ONE can seem to agree on it. Personally I believe that freedom of speech is important. Hate speech and freedom of speech are not the same. It is important that we distinguish the two.

Youtalkingtome
>>104267383

As always Luca, brilliant comment. The part with Bartlett putting her in her place is complicated but needless to say I agree with everything he said. You can tell he wasn't going to say anything but he couldn't help himself. It did feel like it was side tracking a little bit but they just dealt with an intolerant hate group almost killing one of their own. I loved it. The ending was a bit cheesy but it works completely and I can't wait to see more.

David Vandervliet

the radio speech was actually an existing thing that Sorkin borrowed for the scene. I forget where it came from originally. Dr Jacobs was a stand in for Dr. Laura Schlessinger. This episode had to carry a lot, because it carries the show from the events of the end of last season through to the present (airing in the fall) and it had to set up the 2nd season, so it had a lot of things going. There are so many great things coming up in the next few weeks, and I am so jealous that you guys get to experience them for the first time.

Jack

I do really like this episode, but it really highlights the generational changes in attitudes to mental health. Having CJ as the only person who has mental health even in the back of her mind, and especially Bartlett responding to Toby's request for time off by giving him 15 minutes and telling him to "get off the mat" really wouldn't work today. But you can absolutely see it being realistic in their generation only 25 years ago. The changing attitude to mental health in society and especially in younger generations is such a great feature of the past few decades. Ironically however, I actually think this episode was absolutely part of driving that change: even if the characters in that workplace aren't dealing with it "professionally" as we would see it today, simply having CJ call it out and having us witness the mental health impacts on each character would have helped people to think "yeah, it is reasonable to react that way to such a traumatic event, they are going to need support with that."

Weird Magic

"Originally airing on October 18, 2000, ""The Midterms"" is Episode 3 of Season 2 of The West Wing. It is the 25th episode overall and has an IMDB rating of 8.3, placing it as the #16 ranked episode of this season and #55 out of all 155 episodes."

Youtalkingtome
>>104942741

In a way it is ahead of its time because that really wasn't talked about then. Even today only a handful of movies and shows really address it. Love that Ted Lasso is one of them too!

Calina Crandall

The best part about the Bartlett takedown? He is one of the more religious President's the country had in a long time. Many episodes dealt with his faith. So when a clear hatemonger gets a Bible lesson, the point hits home. How dare they use it to try and get famous. PhD in English Literature...talk to me about Twelfth Night. Don't talk about homosexuality.