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After a few days to get caught up with everything Ajax finally had some time to go over a few things with Duke Manashaper. Benedict had yet to return from Sylvanthal, him, Xavier and Anna were all on their way back but they didn’t have a dragon to fly them over in a single day. 

“So the Skill provides some intuition as to what the correct movement would be to amplify a certain Mana type.” Duke Manashaper asked. “Is that because it is a Rare Skill? It still seems a bit too strong for even a Rare Skill.” 

Duke Manashaper had to rely on his Legendary Skill to even attempt to create new spells with any degree of safety so his interest in the new casting method was warranted as was the implied jealousy in his question. 

“It’s not [Spell Direction] that helps with the intuition.” Ajax corrected him. “I think it’s my Style Skill.” 

Duke Manashaper was already aware that Ajax had [Battlemage Style] but that Skill shouldn’t be able to help with a new casting method. This meant that Ajax had another style, most likely an Epic or higher one that could help him with it. Since Ajax had yet to share [Physically Enhanced Battlemage Style] with Duke Manashaper. 

“I see, so your new style is a cumulative one.” Duke Manashaper nodded. “That explains the focus on training weapons.” 

Style Skills could come in two forms, the more common one was the focused type. [Battlemage Style] and [Berserker Style] both fit into it as did Xavier’s Legendary style, the guided the body to a specific goal, two people with the same Style could see minor differences but they would be very similar to each other. The other type of Style Skills were cumulative, there was less of direction from the Skill and more the Skill just creating a structured connection that smoothly allowed one to make use of the Skills they did have that were compatible with the Style. 

Since [Physically Enhanced Battlemage Style] was a Legendary Skill that could work with [Spell Direction] it would naturally push Ajax into movements that would incorporate additional amplifying movements for whatever spells he was trying to cast, even if Ajax wasn’t aware that movement worked for that Mana type.

“I’m hoping the higher rarity weapons Skills I get will also be compatible with Mana.” Ajax confirmed the Duke’s guess. “But for now I am just hoping for a few Uncommon and then Rare weapon Skill, I know just how important good foundations are.” 

The discussions and Mana practice continued until Ajax went through about one thousand Mana, it might not have sounded like a lot but after his morning training with Lancel his Mana and Stamina were both already rather drained. 

The rest of the afternoon Ajax spent with Jake as well as Jari and Nashara. It wouldn’t be long now until the first ships would be finished and his attention would be drawn away there while the rest of his budding fleet would be built so Ajax dedicated what time he could to his nephew and his friends. He also didn’t spend it by training with them but instead allowed them each to brag about how their more crafting orientated Skills were doing.

Jake’s budding garden was starting to see a small increase in Mana density, a true achievement so close to the dungeon as well as the Mana focusing sapling they had planted. The bees they kept made this possible of course but possible didn’t mean it was easy. 

Jari and Nashara had both taken to working with Ajax’s father Sam. Nashara’s interest in blacksmithing and Jari’s interest in enchanting were both fostered as Sam finally had the chance to teach apprentices of his own that were genuinely interested in the craft, unlike Alana’s brother who while willing to learn hadn’t been interested in blacksmithing as craft but more for the respect the position assured him in the future of the village.

While the school had helped both Jari and Nashara unlock the basic Common Skills that would build the foundation of their crafting Skills, Sam had worked with both of them showing them how those Skills would become useful in their chosen crafts.

“Are they going to start actually enchanting or smithing sometime soon?” Ajax asked. 

“Not until they start at school.” Sam shook his head. “I don’t want to risk them getting the profession Uncommon Skill and have them miss out on even one extra helper Common Skill. Though the wait for Jari should only be another couple of months.” 

Since Jari was older by one year that meant that he was in the accelerated learning plan so his crafting schooling was moving faster to make up for that missing one year. Nashara was still  three months away from actually starting blacksmithing.

“I managed to unlock [Penetrating Gaze].” Nashara bragged, the scales on her neck gleaming in the light as she nearly vibrated with excitement. 

[Penetrating Gaze] was a useful Skill that allowed one to see through obscuring effects, it was especially useful for mages when trying to disrupt another mages spells when combined with [Sense Mana] as it helped them find weak points. Nashara had unlocked her Skill by focusing on her heat vision when heating up pieces of metal to ensure the core of the metal had also heated well and it wasn’t cool. Considering how the Skill was unlocked it would need extensive training before it could be applied in combat but that was just effort needed with the Skill unlocked.

Nashara wasn’t the only one to gain a coveted Uncommon Skill however. Jari had managed to gain [Reinforced Tail]. All the messing around the monkey beastkin had done when he got competitive and started using a tool with his tail had unintentionally gained him a Skill that at higher levels would allow him to use his tail almost like a fifth weaker limb.

“How is it for him?” Ajax asked as he stood next to Kate as they body watched the three of them join the rest of the young children at the manor as they chased each other. “Being raised as the first generation of House Hearthbound?” 

“It’s not easy.” Kate admitted. “Especially so with you being so independent and Tom taking on so much of the day to day duties. But I think we managed to instill the right core values in him.” 

There was a little resentment in Kate’s answer, there were moments in the past couple years where she would have preferred for them to not be nobility and trying moments when they could have better focused on Jake, that wasn’t to mention the incident where Jake had let the way other nobles were treating him get to his head a little. Both Kate and Tom had presented a unified front to help steer Jake away from feeling like he was above others just because of who his family was. While there were tough moments Kate also knew if she was given the choice she wouldn’t have traded away their status, the opportunities it presented not only for Jake but also for her and Tom far outshined the downsides.

“Anything I can do to help?” Ajax asked. 

“Just be present in the little time you can spend with him.” Kate answered, she knew that Ajax’s time was extremely limited so that was the only reasonable request she could make. One she knew Ajax would do his best to follow through on. 

“I will be.” Ajax promised before turning the topic to Kate’s day job. “How are things with the Healing Union?” 

“Luna is making things manageable here.” Kate answered. “A lot of the middle ranking people are here since the main headquarters of the guild is in the capital. The middle ranking people don’t know that we are essentially a under the royal family in all but name and see us as a stand alone guild like the alchemists or blacksmiths. They have issues with the influence our House gets since it is our duchy.” 

Kate also knew that all those arguments would all but vanish if Ajax’s project of unlocking Life Mana for their retainers that were part of the Healing Union had any sort of success. Until that time however she was the main representative when it came to the Healing Union and she always looked forward to Luna’s visits. 

The week passed with everything slowly settling into a routine. The one exception being Ajax’s experimentation with [Elemental Avatar] as he didn’t want to lock himself out of more than two different Mana types at once. By the end of the week Tom had returned from his delve and the carpenters had finished their initial ships. It was time to try them out.

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userunfriendly

TFTC! 🐲🐉🔨🪓 “It’s not [Spell Direction] that helps with the intuition.” Ajax corrected him. “I think it’s my Style Skill.” Huh?! I thought it was your gauntlets that helped guide Spell Direction?🤔🤔 Since Ajax had yet to share [Physically Enhanced Battlemage Style] with Duke Manashaper. Which actually makes sense…if you consider fluid translation from a melee attack from a movement designed to increase Mana Augmentation…🤔🤔 cumulative, there was less of direction from the Skill and more the Skill just creating a structured connection that smoothly allowed one to make use of the Skills they did have that were compatible with the Style. So the more Ajax learns, whether it be Spell Direction, defensive melee, or increases his weapons skills, his Styke Skill gathers them all up, and translates it into a battle style that optimizes what Ajax has? 🫡🫡 “But for now I am just hoping for a few Uncommon and then Rare weapon Skill, I know just how important good foundations are.” I’ve mentioned this before, but seriously, guys, isn’t this EXACTLY what we’ve been saying, on our posts and comments?! “Really, Ajax should focus more on getting feeder, lower rarity, foundational skills. His build is all messed up.” Now that Ajax is actually following our recommendations, we’re just impatient for more action…🙄🙄😂🤣 Nashara’s interest in blacksmithing and Jari’s interest in enchanting were both fostered as Sam finally had the chance to teach apprentices of his own I totally called it…Nashara’s Eye will be of enormous help in PRECISELY gauging temperature. Enormously valuable to a smith. 🫡🫡 [Penetrating Gaze] was a useful Skill that allowed one to see through obscuring effects, it was especially useful for mages when trying to disrupt another mages spells when combined with [Sense Mana] as it helped them find weak points. Ajax is jealous. 😂🤣 “It’s not easy.” Kate admitted. “Especially so with you being so independent and Tom taking on so much of the day to day duties. But I think we managed to instill the right core values in him.” Jake is a good kid. It certainly helped that his Uncle almost tore apart a noble of the Empire like a rag doll to defend him. 🫡🫡 Both Kate and Tom had presented a unified front to help steer Jake away from feeling like he was above others just because of who his family was. He’s being raised like he was actually born into a Kingdom Knight family. 🫡🫡 The middle ranking people don’t know that we are essentially an under the royal family in all but name and see us as a stand alone guild like the alchemists or blacksmiths. Huh?! I thought this was common knowledge? 🤔🤔 Kate also knew that all those arguments would all but vanish if Ajax’s project of unlocking Life Mana for their retainers that were part of the Healing Union had any sort of success. Nobles: WHY DIDN’T YOU INVITE OUR KIDS TO PARTICIPATE?!?! 😡🤬 Ajax: Because they don’t deserve it. Life Aspect mana has a massive utility for Healers. 🙄🙄 Noble: BUT IT’S A LEGENDARY SKILL!!! 🤤🤤 Ajax: You still didn’t deserve it. The healers who got the skil will actually USE it! 😡🤬 (Ajax was born to be in trouble. 🙄🙄) By the end of the week Tom had returned from his delve and the carpenters had finished their initial ships. It was time to try them out. On Monday, Ajax discoverers that the Lake’s REAL name is Loch Ness. Monsters, please! 👹👹😱😱😳😳

Kurby

1) This fits more with the last chapter but I jist thought of this now. I hope Ajax was an Epithet Erased fan or did well in chemistry class. Because his metal form can be a real trump card for certain attacks. Specifically Time, Death or Decay/Rot attuned ones. Since pure gold never corrodes, he now has a way to be immune to any of those attacks in the event that he can't dodge it. 2) Damn, didn't think Ajax would be so conservative with his training for Elemental Avatar.

Arrogant Savant

It is funny how Ajax has quiter about his Legendary Style Skill than all his other ones, If I had to make a guess Style Skills are second in difficultly to get at higher rarities like Legendary Affinities. Mentioning it in Gryndor is actually more dangerous because the royal family KNOWS how powerful a legendary style skill.

Some Guy

Thanks for the chapter

Jordan Adams

Thanks for the chapter. This one could definitely use a second pass for typos.

Corwin

I think its more proof that feeder skills are important. He hasn't used the gauntlets also. Or at least he hasn't said anything about using them. Which unfortunately amounts to the same thing. And proves that Legendary and above skills are really necessary for people to use Legendary and above skills. I don't think anyone has an issue of him spending the time doing it. Or even having chapters devoted to it. But even in book 1 where we had a lot of training. We had time skips with the training being discussed. Actually Jake's education and training is less like a nobles or a kingdom's knight. Which is a problem or will be eventually. Less skill training and less pushing for skills early on. It wasnt until Nashara and Jari came along to get him involved with training. This will be most likely be a problem latter on, when Jake sees others being trained as children later. Why would think that. It wasnt until book 3 that we found out. And as Luna said it wasnt common knowledge. It is common knowledge to nobles, but as we know commoners don't always get the same Intel. Actually like I said. The Healers Union, the Royal Family and others will probably perform the experiments before Ajax. As we saw in Sylenthal Noble Houses have the seeds...making them capable of doing this with only a rumor or two circulating from how Ajax got the skill. In fact, Keleros would be prudent to let Manashaper, or others perform the Ritual before Ajax does his...allowing other nobles to also get nice things and set up other plots in the Human Kingdoms. I am hopeful that the ships will attempt joint maneuvers first. Unlocking skills for sailing in formation, swimming, tacking together, common signaling and distress signals. From there they need to work on trimming the trim of the ship. Basically attempting to get the ship to go as fast as it can go. From there working on getting the sails down and tied, and put back up. Realistically they shouldn't be leaving far from the shore. The crews are too new and green. Honestly Ajax should try unlocking a domain while the crews are doing this. The sudden shifts in winds, decks getting soaked with water, and the occasional lightning bolt, would be something many sailors wish to test on new ships. Or he could have Lexi try for another one. Either way its better to have that tested now before they have their mock battles.

Andrew

Wasn’t Alana the headman’s daughter and it was her brothers friend Jonny who was the apprentice

userunfriendly

Certainly “feeder”skilks are important…but as we’ve discussed, how will Ajax get them when his page is full of Legendary and Epic skilks? 🙄🙄 Hopefully we get a training time skip after the ships Arc. 🤞🤞 Yes, but these people are Healing Union MIDDLE MANAGEMENT. It’s irresponsible for them to be unaware of their actual status. 🤔🤔 I'm really looking forward to the experiment s=with Seeds of Life…hopefully Ajax can get Plant mana. 😈😈 Just getting the Ships across the lake will be epic…if there are monsters. 😱😱 Ajax doesn’t want a domain. He’s said so. 🫡🫡

Sam F

that's how I remember it, yeah. Keleros needs his own wiki to remember his characters 🤣

Sam F

I'm sorry for being a little bit negative, but this felt like yet another filler chapter to me tbh. Too many skippable chapters in a row that don't even have fun slice-of-life banter. It's just filler.

Bunny

Tftc

Corwin

That's part of the problem. As Aurexion stated, having legendary, mythic skills make it difficult to earn the lower skills. Common, uncommon, and rare skills are basically the foundation. Epic is when we start the process of building of skills. Its middle management in a different location. Its more like today's conglomerate. Most corporations are owned by other corporations. And not every Middle management would have that knowledge. The middle management here is not the same as the ones at the Capital. Those people were the top and on track to actually being something in the Healing Union. The ones in its satellite locations were not exactly on the track to be anywhere close to any sort of knowledge that might be sensitive. Like I said. It would be nice to see some of that being done by other nobles. With Ajax being able to do a few other experiments. Mock battles, training, and mapping out the Lake will need to be done before crossing the Lake. Ajax doesnt have to unlock the Domain. Lexi could try unlocking another. But domains would still be useful. Since their is legendary mana types, most likely their is a mythic domain. Or legendary domains

userunfriendly

Yes. Unless Conditional Empowering Restrictions are possible…suck as Lockdown ABE until elastic veins is learned, those skills would be extremely difficult to learn. And as Empowering Restrictions are limited to what the Skill Holder knows, I doubt it would work. Alternatively, Ajax has to abuse his body with ABE until he gets the support skills… Oh crap! Is that why Ajax is working on his Weapons skills?! ABE only really needs Elastic Veins to have a full set of support skills feeding into it. Hopefully Divine Witness can help. But, Ajax’s Weapons Skills, the highest is Uncommon or Rare! So he’s got a good chance of getting all the feeder skills in place before going for Epic or Legendary Weapons skills!!! He was able to get the feeder skills for Alchemy when he lost his arm…but as far as Weapons skills are concerned, Ajax has only LOW level skills! Getting a proper foundation for High Rarity Weapons Skills is possible right now! 😳😳🔨🪓🔨🪓 Agree with your reasoning for the Healing Union. It really is only due to Luna Ajax knows. 🤔🤔 Other nobles only care about their houses, only a few if ANY healers would be offered Life aspect mana. Besides, Ajax wants Plant. 😈😈 Crossing fingersnon lake monsters. 🤞🤞😈😈 Domains is counter to Ajax’s Wham, Bam, Thank You, Ma’am style. Not needed. 😈😈

Jlan

Might be just me but the bit at the end concerning the healing union was pretty unclear in some areas not sure if I just didn’t get it or because the writing itself is unclear.

David Seever

I’m a confused about the strength (or rather the weakness) of Ajax’s mythic skill. When he was in his fire elemental form, he was disabled by a single spell. This seems to be a big weakness even allowing for the fact that his injury was caused by an opposing element.

Corwin

ABE does need more than Eleastic Veins, its just that the minimum left for the skill to function properly. And this is why Ajax is focusing on keeping the kids who have more of the common skills necessary for his crafters than the higher rated and higher rarity skills. The feeder skills are that important to have them unlock the legendary skills and above. Though it will require Ajax to make a Library and start having people write a ledger of skills. And from there work on possible skill combinations and feeder skills to make a build for someone. And then work on an optimal stat spread. Ajax wont like it. And will undoubtedly pawn it off on someone but it is necessary. Ajax's weapons skills are either uncommon or common. Unlocking the uncommon and rare weapon skills will allow Ajax to build a foundation for legendary and Epic weapon skills as well as the weapon skills that correspond to them as well. But Ajax only unlocked a partial amount of the feeder skills necessary for Alchemy, not the whole amount. Alchemy has feeder skills that come from Farming, Cooking, Studying, and Lore at least. Which is probably why Ajax has no Legendary Skills for Alchemy. His base can't support it and Alchemy isnt something he uses in combat to fight which keeps the requirements high. Plus he still needs to unlock his feeder skills for rituals, and magic. Spell Storage is definitely one of those skills that would be perfect for Ajax. As well as others for using his Ettin Staff. Nobles have a vested interest in doing it. They have their own Retainers and Family to consider as well. As the Former King said, ritualists were known to unlock life mana. With the seeds, knowledge and rumor of how Ajax unlocked Life Mana...it would make sense that the Noble Houses might run an experiment or two. Using the seeds to grow crops and store it wouldn't be terrible and would be beneficial long term. And trying to unlock Life Mana with their own ritualists and healers, would be best and simple for them. Ajax can still do his for Hearthbound, it just wouldn't be the draw that he thinks it would be. I am actually hopeful that we find River and Lake beasts, as well as an Awakened Race or two. Domains would fall in the sacrifice for his Family and Retainers. Its true Lexi could do it. And should do it as well. And it would be nice if Tristan and Nelly from the Collectors try to unlock ones as well. But the low number of Mages for Hearthbound isnt a small number. We have 4 counting Ajax who we know are Mages. And with 4 ships, it will take awhile to test and see how the ships perform in severe weather in open water without a domain to stimulate the effects. Plus it would help the ship sailors learn and maybe earn a skill or two from working in a domain that surrounded a ship or partially surrounded a ship. Without the adverse effects of different mana densities that we don't know about. So why do you think its unnecessary? Its not his preferred style. Okay. But if they are using ships and Ajax is on one. Why would the testing and first hand knowledge not be helpful for him? Their is no guarantee that Ajax wouldn't be the only Mage on the ship. Or that a domain wouldn't help him unlock a skill with using the mana around him. Or making the density of the mana in such a small area might have the best effect with dealing with someone pursuing him. Or how a domain might effect his mana augmentation abilities. Plus, he is helping his house, his people. If he doesn't thats fine. But he is putting them at risk because of what? Its not his preference. Its not something he isnt interested in learning or using. Okay. But his Retainers and his family don't have access to mana skills or a large enough mana pool to perform magic like a mage. They arent rune casters, free form style casters, or chanting casters. So with 4 high level casters he is going to use 3 because what? A domain will make him more support than dps in this scenario? Tristan is a healer, and a healing domain sounds unique. Plus he probably has other mana types unlocked from Nelly, so he could do healing and supoort. Nelly is a Mage but I would still have her trying to unlock a Domain, as well as using Magic. Lexi is going for a more support Mage as well. Definitely not what she has been doing for awhile. So why can't Ajax aim for a skill that he isnt going to use often? This is mock battles and training. Ajax might unlock a domain and hates it. But if Hearthbound has four people with domains, maybe they can get a few more mages to come over and Ajax never has to use it again except occasionally. Ajax is lacking in magical talent for Retainers. And he needs them. A PR stunt showing 4 Hearthbound with Domains, might get a few independents who can teach Runic Casting, or Chanting might join and make Hearthbound have a way to Raise Magical Talent...but yeah Domains arent needed

userunfriendly

That does bring up the question…why hasn’t Ajax asked for the list of skills and prerequisites that he’s been told about since childhood, controlled by the royal family? 🤔🤔 Hindering Discoveries is an idiotic reason for withholding them, particularly to Hearthbound. This leads to two likely possibilities…one, they never existed, it was just apocryphal. Two, for whatever reason they’re withholding it. This is unlikely given how much the Royal family has reason to rely on Hearthbound. Hence my conclusion it doesn’t exist, which brings up the question of what happens when the royal family learns Ajax is compiling a list of skills. They’ll obviously request a copy, and other houses will demand (🙄🙄😂🤣😂🤣) or barter for one. With bartering, this gives Ajax a chance to learn those secrets kept by the noble houses, compile them, and hopefully put together an actual encyclopedia. 😳😳 Wait a second…how would the nobles find out that Ajax even got Life mana from cracking open a Seed of Life? Whiskers didn’t even know until later, and he was boosting the delve! Xavier, Lexi and his friends knew, but it’s not common knowledge. Besides, those seeds are Crown Property, with only Hearthbound having an authorized private stash. So only Ajax can run the experiment. 😈😈 i see your points about Ajax getting Domain. They are in fact, cogent. Even if Ajax doesn’t use it, it can help him, certainly Lexi can sell lessons in it, 🫡🫡 (good arguments)

Blackking👑

A domain doesn't fit his fighting style. Not only would it be another drain on his mana but EA definitely has feeder skills that would help with the style he is building towards

Blackking👑

He's already made the plans too use empowering restriction to get the supporting abilities that fit his skills. It's just something that takes time right now. He's working on his weapon skills and getting elemental avatar to something that is usable. Presumably by the time that he's gotten all of the foundational weapon skills he wants and is more confident in his fundamentals. He'll focus on the mage/warrior fundamental skills he needs

Blackking👑

I wouldn't worry about him, not having lower tier skills because of the fact that he got the higher tier equivalent. He's mentioned in the past that it is possible for him to get them he would just need to use empowering restriction have some dedicated training, considering that that's probably gonna be a huge pain in the ass. It makes sense that he's going to try with the stuff that he can get with less effort, though I fully expect him to get all of the feeder skills for his legendary skills

Blackking👑

I mean it's a unique situation because most people don't have a trait like his and if they do have some sort of trait that makes it so that they're more likely to learn certain type of skills. It's not so overpowering that they're going to get the legendary or epic version of the skill common and uncommon skills. You're right he is missing some of the alchemy feeder skills, but he does have like a majority of them and the ones that he's missing are like skills that he definitely is probably gonna go out of his way to get, but I'm pretty sure it's more things like precise measurement that he got a while ago in comparison to his other type of skills alchemy is probably in the best situation when it comes to having all of the support abilities. He basically has zero magic skills that help other than spell direction and EA I don't think something spell storage works with his casting method. Pretty sure it was a chanting skill. When it comes to his magic skills considering spell direction is rare and also apparently the lowest level skill that helps with his casting method he isn't going to need to do a bunch of convoluted training to get the weaker feeder skills that he is going to need to do for mana siphon and last stand honestly, his stamina related skills are in the worst position. Since he got mana siphon so early he only has a couple of stamina skills. He has last stand and debilitating roar. One of them is something that he only uses in conjunction with other skills that are also legendary and he hasn't even gotten to level 25 yet the other is a rare skill that cost stamina to disorient enemies.

Blackking👑

Honestly, when it comes to domain skills, he's explained already why he doesn't want them and his explanation made a lot of sense. It's great for a like true mages , especially chanting mages but for Ajax, it would essentially be shooting himself in the foot. Also, even if he had a domain, that was the level of the princess he wouldn't be able to affect all four ships. And it's a little bit much to train them for weather phenomenon when they first going out on the boats especially considering Weather is extremely weird on this new world don't think we've heard of any weather phenomenon outside of dungeons and specifically winter also it would be weird cause like domains aren't really something that you just figure out you be able even tho elf's who had the knowledge on how to do it don't have a lot of domain users. Apparently it's something that you gotta fully commit to and if we're being a honest, the newest pinnacle. With a dragon bond does not need to do PR stunts to gather subordinates

Blackking👑

It would be extremely dumb for him to get a domain just to stunt on people he could use that time to train skills that are actually like important to his fighting style. Also, again like even with his stats being higher than basically everybody in his generation because of his method is mental stats are just one of the things he focuses on even if he abuse the fact that he can use stamina for spell as well. He would have to stop all of his training just to get something that he's ultimately not gonna be using in a fight. Ajax ultimately fights using whatever element is most convenient for him at the time for a domain to be useful to him, he would have to get a domain that basically encompasses all of his mana types at the same time

Blackking👑

Why would he be putting anybody at risk even if he got a domain right before they left for the boat it's not helping him in a fight. I'm gonna have to reread right after tournament ends, but he explains in pretty concise reasons. Why even back then it wouldn't fit him. By now his fighting styles even more developed And if I remember correctly, the main benefit of domains is basically using the mana that you expel to boost the weaker spells as they travel through your domain, Ajax is a primarily physical fighter that has spell direction if he wants to boost a spell to be a strong as possible all he needs to do is combo a whole bunch of movements together

Corwin

Because he hasn't ever asked...there is probably truckloads of information Ajax had at his fingertips. The Academy, Luna, the Adventurers Guild, Manashaper, and a host of other people had the ability to as much as the Royal Family. Silvia and others have mentioned that Noble Families have skill trees. Just like the Royal Family knew that those six skills would make their Legendary Skill. Though that also leads to Ajax trying experimenting other skills merging into other Style Skills. How do you not think that? Vibration Mana was found in the Tournament. Which is also when he learned Life. Too many people, were there. Shadow was able to confirm his suspicion, but that doesn't mean he was the only one who had those thoughts. Sylenthal had nobles with them, and they are national resources. Not necessarily Crown Property. Domain is probably a feeder skill for EA. Ariwyan, and others have used environmental floors to understand their Domains.

Blackking👑

I mean, it's because for a lot of his skills there aren't any like known feeder skills mana siphon is a legendary skill and he's the first person to get it the only lead they have about it is that mana physique might be a feeder skill for it but if it is, it's focused on the physical boost at the cost of mana then the drain effect also now that I reread the beginning of book 4 one of the main reasons, he stated why he wasn't going for a domain was because it was probably incompatible with mana siphon Which makes sense, considering expelling a bunch of mana in the area and using weaker spells in using the mana in the area to empower them is a good strategy just isn't compatible with a guy who constantly drain his surroundings of mana there's also the fact that he mostly fights up close and personal and that's counter to domains, considering the more the spell travel in the domain the more they benefit from it.

Blackking👑

Domain skills aren't really something that people can just pick up even with Ajax being able to speed up the process of acquiring it with mana siphon the person in question would still need to have elements that fit a compatible concept. Even if they fulfilled that requirement in order to be useful to simulate weather events it would need to be something storm related, which the one person who has a domain in their family, doesn't have Domains don't fit him specifically because of his skills, mostly mana siphon When it comes to recruiting people, people are going to be way more interested in joining up because of spell direction the fact that he's a pinnacle, his dragon, the fact that they're on the rise hell even when it comes to people being entice because of domains that's gonna happen because Lexi has one and they don't need to hide the fact that Ajax is able to help with figuring out the skill When it comes to him in increasing the number of majors in his opponents, I'm way more interested in him, figuring out how to use mana siphon for that effect it's basically the perfect skill to theoretically allow someone to become aware of their mana. Everybody has some he can drain it repeatedly until they become aware of it.

Blackking👑

Domain being a feeder skill for elemental avatar makes no sense. Elemental avatar benefits from the person in question having a lot of different mana types to use. And domains are concept specific sure with a winter domain you can incorporate things like ice, wind, snow maybe even shadow. But a storm domain is only gonna have wind in common with it. There's probably some mythic skills that are related to domains, but there's one magic skill in the series we've seen so far that probably has nothing to do with domains. It would be elemental avatar. It basically does the opposite of encourage you to expel your resources into the environment. Hell, elementals probably end up getting domain skills because elementals usually focus on one element so it makes sense for a fire elemental to get some sort hellish landscape domain, but an elemental with the ability to change the element that it's focused on wouldn't try to get a domain skill

userunfriendly

Agreed, but what are those skills that feed into EA? Possibly the Dragons are familiar with EA.. and Aurexion simply is lacking information. We can assume that the Dragons have a record of Mythical skills they’ve investigated…🤔🤔

userunfriendly

Certainly a wise and prudent methodology…but this is Ajax Hearthbound…who seems to be allergic to “wise and thoughtful”. 🙄🙄

userunfriendly

He certainly isn’t going to lack for training topics once he gets some time…🙄🙄

userunfriendly

Debilitating Roar was used on him by Grievous, remember? He’s a hybrid, which means he has lower mana and lower stamina than the focused classes. My hope is that if Ajax and Aurexion manage to take down a Floor Boss triple their level, they get something that solves their mana and stamina isseues. 😈😈

Blackking👑

I'm willing to bet that the skills that help with EA would be skills like Anna's though not all of them might be legendary. Pretty sure Ajax has a shadow related skill that makes it so his shadow abilities are stronger as a side benefit I think it was called [shadow dweller] it's main benefit was that it allowed him to travel in shadows, but I'm pretty sure it also strengthened his shadow spells a bit and we heard of a noble with an epic earth skill that was similar. Basically in order to strengthen his magic he has two options skills are focused on empowering a specific element and skills that empower free casting. I'm willing to bet there's more advanced versions of spells that are related to free casting that only really open up to people if they get spell direction and are actually dedicated towards it Maybe a skill that allows you to skip movements or shorten them Spell direction let's the person using it determine, however, many movements they want to use to empower the spell that they're going to cast I could see epic skills related to it that allow you to 1 chain together more movements and improve the final effect or 2 that boost how much each movement strengthens the spell 3 maybe there could be one that uses the spell storage idea but instead of storing spells it stores movements 4 there also the beyonder boon and its skill equivalents

Blackking👑

Yeah, I found something that I think would be a feeder skill for elemental avatar or just a skill that would boost his free casting book 6 page 279 of 427 a skill called [Earthen supremacy] it's an epic skill that a noble that was there fights had those are the sort of skills that Ajax is going to need to get basically skills that specifically boost one element we've seen like three of those type one of them being [shadow dweller], which is Ajax's own skill another is Anna's [pyromaniac]or whatever it's called and this third one which is called [Earthen supremacy] which belongs to a noble named Ramus

Blackking👑

Also, another thing that is a detriment towards the domain idea is that having one domain probably makes it harder if not impossible to get another domain he was basically specializing into the specific elements that he ended up making for his domain

Blackking👑

Yeah, I remember it being used by the warden first. He got it during the war when he was training after he got ABE. Honestly, when it comes to fixing the lack of support his legendary skills have it's going to take some dedicated effort with empowering restriction and him, actively trying to get abilities that are vaguely related to the legendary skill that he's wants to support I mean, if they're lucky and they get a version of the achievement that gives them support supporting skills like the one that Ajax missed last time that would be pretty helpful, especially considering that previous achievement allowed the person in question to choose which skill they were going to get the support skills for. Honestly, if I was Ajax, I would choose last stand if he got an achievement like that mana siphon's support skills need a little bit of discovery and as useful as him finding out what the skills that supported or would be for helping other people get them he would have to come up with his own ideas and how to help someone learn them Personally, I hope that they kill a weapon master or something

userunfriendly

That’s my viewpoint as well. Corwin has been taking the position that it would be beneficial. Now, Anna, on the other hand, could really use it. 😈

userunfriendly

Because the main benefit of Domains are for squishy mages who can’t move that fast, because it marks out a zone where they DOMINATE, hence the name, it’s not suitable for Ajax at all. Again, Corwin is the one who keeps taking the viewpoint it’s good for Ajax. I haven’t. 😛😛

userunfriendly

Ajax’s build is built around SPEED. Not applicable in a Domain where you pretty much stand still. Interestingly, Aranor doesn’t use Domains, probably because he has movement skills. Domains are for Intelligence builds to excel against few enemies. Not really applicable for Ajax. 🤔🤔

userunfriendly

That’s a hell of an interesting idea…Domains being a feeder skill for EA. Certainly the problems he had with Metal could be implying that depending on the Element, Ajax is literally going to have to learn new Combat Styles…what a headache. Though it’s even a worse headache for Ajax’s enemies…I’m actually inclined to speculate Legendary skills, like Pyromancer are feeder skills for EA, however… The instinctive refueled of noble houses, including the Royal Family, seems to be to hide skill tree information. Everyone will try to screw Ajax and Hearthbound over, by trying to get Hearthbound’s skills information, without revealing their own. Sigh. This more than anything is holding humanoids back. 🙄🙄 Hopefully Shifty’s mom would be willing to trade for Skills information if Ajax brings out something nice for her. 😈😈

userunfriendly

Yeah…Siphon and Domains seem mutually exclusive…🤔🤔

userunfriendly

Precisely my speculation…that Mana Siphon could be abused to get someone the Sense Mana skill. Of course, that’s an even worse drain on Ajax’s time. 😱😱

userunfriendly

It kinda does, actually…if you assume that Domains are a way to control mana external to your body, and EA as a way to control internal mana, then having both sets of skills might boost the other…. 🤔🤔

userunfriendly

I strongly suspect the Major Milestone for Spell Direction is Power. Chanting mages get to shorten Chants as its major Milestone, because Chanted magic is powerful, but slow. Spell Directions is fast, but less powerful. Hence my speculation that Spell Direction’s major Milestone is pure power. 😈😈

userunfriendly

I’m now wondering if it’s the same family of skills as Pyromancer…🤔🤔

userunfriendly

I’m already wonder what happens when Ajax hits 200 skills…😂🤣😂🤣

Corwin

But does Ajax need Mana Siphon to work with EA? A specific Element doesn't really need siphon. Nor is siphon really being used at the moment. Siphon is used more in dungeons not really anywhere else at the moment. Making it more niche than anything else right now. A domain can weaken and strengthen spells as they move forward. Something we have seen. But we also haven't seen much on the prolonged exposure it does on an environment. Or how much Mana augmentation can benefit from it. Domains, Spell Direction, and Education can all be draws. A dragon may not be a draw, but his reputation can definitely be one. Currently Ajax can help people try and form one, and their is always the possibility Lexi can figure out how to give Direction on how to form one without Ajax. But Elementals probably do create domains. Remember that Aurexion had Ajax feed the Floor Boss Core to other Elementals. And how eating those cores changed and evolved those Elementals. So a Domain is definitely in that wheelhouse for them. But Dragons would not be the Race who knows about EA. That would fall under the Phoenix Race. The Elemental Race who decided to look like Birds... EA benefits from immersion in its element. And it enhances passively Ajax's understanding of said element. But we can't forget that the Mana Elements are not always one specific thing. Water and Earth, makes Mud and so forth. Mud is a Mana type. So there is the overlap you are overlooking with Domains and Feeding into EA. I can't see a Domain for Anna being possible unless she unlocks more Fire Mana types, and uses those Mana types to bring together a Domain. Aranor stated he didn't have a domain because he couldn't unlock it. But domains are definitely built for siege, artillery, and support. Seige because you have to sustain a rate of fire, which can't be done by large spells. Artillery so you can boost large attacks. And support to build a large amount of damage with low costs. Feeder skills are lower rarity skills feeding into higher rarity skills. Such as Earth and Fire are feeder skills for Magma. And so forth. Or Bows being a feeder skill to Short Bows, Long Bows. Most likely multiple Domains are hard to unlock. Just like unlocking stamina skills when you have access to Mana skills, makes it harder to unlock. A Storm domain is probably the broadest of terms. Since you could have Earth, Lightning, Shadow, Water, Ice, Wind, Snow, and Vibration. (Technically sand, and ice gives you snowflakes). Which would give probably the scariest Winter Storm. A Sand Storm would be Earth, Lightning, Water, Shadow, WInd Vibration, and Fire. The point isnt that its beneficial for Ajax or that its great for his build. My point is that its good for his family and retainers for this test. Having sailors learn how to work in squal conditions is a necessity. Ships are better off on open water during a storm than at port. Now there is no chance to cover every kind of condition at sea/lake. But if you can simulate those conditions so the crews can test rigging, and make sure the loads are secure you should take it. Otherwise ships and crews can and should die during these times. Plenty of ships go down because while cargo and supplies are secure when the weather is behaving. Find that when its not, things crash, break and damage plenty of equipment. A mast breaking in bad weather can cause a ship to sink if its not cut away quickly. A crate can break and jam a door closed so people can't leave a room. The pumps can break and the water overkill the bilge and causes the ship to take a wave and causes excessive flooding. The seams can split and cause water to fill it up as well. Plenty of things can be hidden with a calm sea/lake. So trying to unlock a domain and simulate those conditions are better than lossing a ship because someone didn't bother to try.

userunfriendly

I have to doubt that the way that Elementals influence the floor they’re on is hardly related to Domains. Certainly that Ifrit Fire Elemental did cause all the mana to change to fire, but that seemed more to be a condition caused by being a Floor Boss more than anything else. 🤔🤔 While Ajax might benefit from Domains, we also have to additionally ask about the Opportunity Costs. He’s got a sponsored Delve in a year’s time. A War could restart in 6 years. Particularly the War, what’s Ajax’s best, sure payoff way of getting stronger? Weapons Skills! That’s why he’s doing precisely the right thing. I agree with you in particular about he should have delayed constricting his ships…but if Gryndor does absorb the Empire, the ships could greatly facilitate commerce between west is now a single country, divided by a lake…and anyone who could set up cheap and efficient transportation between “Old” Gryndor and the former Empire stands to make a truly stupendous amounts of money. Ajax would want that for his family. 🫡🫡 So far, Ajax has been relying on plot armor. Let’s wait and see what Keleros is planning. And I’m still hoping for a Lake Monster…😈😈

Corwin

No. That was more related to the Mud Elementals that Ajax took on afterwards. Around chapters 680+. The Mud Elementals even evolved after that too. While I agree its a tight schedule. Its also one that the timeline can't really fit in. Like we have discussed before. The timeline is way too compressed. There is zero reason to make the delve in the Wild Lands take place in a year. And the war can't restart in 6 years. You don't have a way to put the Elites and Champions back together who have died. And that doesn't even cover the regular soliders who died. The Beastkin lost double the elites and champions, Brightshore lost half of theirs. Sylenthal, And the Republic also lost a few. And Gryndor lost a few elites and Champions. Even with that, you also have Ajax pushing shipping, expanding his cement trade, and road building...none of which actually should be done. It took the US 50 years to do their highway projects. But apparently that finished in Ajax's duchy in less than 18 months Earth Time... Keep in mind if we went off your idea of merging Sylenthal and Deep Wood, as well as the Empire and Gryndor just merging militaries would take decades by itself. Let alone having the fights for The top 3 Archducke houses. I like fantasy but we are talking about these mergers and wars happening in like 6 years. Meanwhile history proves that kind of thing even when its somewhat peaceful takes decades. Just getting people to Elite takes decades, and Champions with the new system is like 200+ years. As for the Opportunity costs and benefits for learning or taking the time to learn a Domain. Its fact that you need them. A healing domain, would definitely be worth the time. Nelly learning a Domain would expand the ability for Hearthbound to teach a Domain as well as boosting one of his most leveled retainers. And Ajax himself. Its learning a skill that could literally make sure his people are safe, field testing his brand new ships to make sure they are seaworthy, as well as showing that he is willing to take on a task to make him able to support his retainers and family in every endeavor. Because honestly he hasn't shown that. He is more than willing to dump things on them, but he hasn't done anything to show that he is willing to due anything for them. The cherries, not really showing that. That was negotiating and Aurexion actually had the knowledge but it cost him nothing. The schools, the slaves, the roads. He came up with the idea. But he left every time. Didn't help, didn't smooth over anything. He has been more than willing to make himself stronger. But he hasn't done much to help implement anything. Its not a straight up benefit. But the flip side is that it isnt a negative either. Its something he is capable of doing, and something to show his family he supports them, even when the benefits arent always clear for him. Otherwise his family will resent him, and not be willing to do everything. We have seen Kate, and Tom have those emotions and feelings. That shit compounds. It creates a toxic workplace. Because if all Ajax does is drop shit on their plates and leaves, and doesn't do anything to show that he is willing to do something to support. Aurexion and Ajax are screwed. Because they will both find themselves in trouble when their requests and suggestions go in the i don't give a shit box. Taking over part of Tom's job and letting him go on a devle is nice. But thats lets be honest he doesn't do that often. And I get that Ajax is the MC, but I also know that it can't be the constant thing. All this fluff for chapters in Ajax's training is nice, but we also didn't see him do anything that didn't have a straight up benefit for him. Which is a bad look for an employer. Employees can see that. And those who are former slaves will catch on to those power imbalances.

userunfriendly

I really see the Ships as Hearthbound’s attempt to secure a revenue stream. Roads to Ajax’s new city, paved in concrete, of course, linking the two ends of Gryndor together. Yes, it’s probably too soon, but Ajax has committed himself. And as for how it’s going to turn out…he’s got plot armor. 🙄🙄. I actually suspect that because the merger of Gryndor and the Empire will happen much faster than expected, Hearthbound will be positioned by Ajax to make a massive killing. 😈😈. And I doubt that Empire will fully merge into Gryndor. It might, but that will take centuries. Most likely, the Empire will remain a separate political entity, almost…ruled by its own Archducal family, the former imperial royal family, and Gryndor and the Empire will mostly concentrate on military matters, in case the Beastkin resume War in 6 years. Yes, the Beastkin are down half their Champions…but EVERYONE is in bad shape. And if Aranor and Shadow dies…war for sure. Ajax’s job is to create things. Beekeeping was such a surprise…but he’s occasionally going to work on developing things, but his talent lies in creating things…and being the nailed fist behind Hearthbound. Yes, his family might be unhappy he’s nit helping out that much RUNNING Hearthbound, but Ajax’s job is unique, and irreplaceable. Hearthbound can hire out administrative talent, for running their duchy. But Ajax should not be doing that, he should be focusing on getting ready for the next war. 🫡🫡

Corwin

Its not really a revenue stream. At least not yet. But Ajax's Roads don't go for from either end to end of Gryndor. And exactly. The problem is there wasnt a reason to commit himself. Since that also puts pressure on training time. And other things. Empire and Gryndor merging requires lots of integration, time, and disruptions. Putting it on the clock with a short time line kills the actually storyline to make it work. But you can't have an Archduke running a country by themselves. Again beginning a war in 6 years, there is too much that there that works. If you need more regular, elite, and champions troops, that doesn't make a War possible. From WWI to WWII took 21 years. Before that it took 40 years. If Aranor and Shadow die, it pushes for a delay not a rush. Wars take bodies, materials, equipment. Everyone is hurting for all of that. Beekeeping, ships, cement, and other things isnt creating anything. Ajax is grabbing technology from Earth to upgrade this one. Not a bad thing but not really creation. And it is helpful for what Ajax is doing. But he isnt helpful in running Hearthbound or building it up. Not really Ajax is cashing in his Earth Knowledge and pushing expansion. A terrible combination. Without building ties and connections with retainers, and family, he has a crappy foundation. Yeah plot armor will save him. But it kills the story. Do you know how much information gets leaked because people don't think their boss cares? Or that their boss doesn't value them? Or that they are dismissed or marginalized...Ajax is unique and has a ton of good ideas and value. But this next war he needs to bring troops, as much as himself. Keleros can certainly have Hearthbound bring in mercenaries. But Hearthbound troops, retainers, actually have to look at Ajax as a leader. As someone who they should respect, and have the idea that he isnt just out for himself. And there is nothing we have seen that points to that. In fact we have more info of the exact opposite of that. You can't hire loyalty. You can't hire respect. You can't hire morale. More contact with his family will show that they get upset with Ajax. And how disruptive Ajax is to his family. And what he doesn't do for them. That effects everything. And trickles down. It makes ruling a bitch. And good leaders and good admin tries to minimize that. Those that fail that lose prospective employees, and long term employees. Again Keleros can wipe it away with plot armor. But its a poor excuse for writing. Ajax picked up how many admin skills when he got this duchy? Did he plan to rule...no. but he needed to get them and show that he was willing to do something on occasion. This falls into that same space.

userunfriendly

Ajax is useless as a leader. He as much admitted that. So he’s doing everything to support his family, not as a leader. Innovator, he’s good at that. 🤔🤔. He’s not betraying his duty as a feudal lord, he’s acting responsibly, delegating things he’s not good at. If he tries to act like a feudal lord, it’s going to fail. He is admired for his personal prowess, and because he can pull that off, he’s specializing in precisely those parts he can help with. Actually shipbuilding makes sense. Assume it takes a while to get it up and running. He’s building prototypes, and testing things out, in anticipation of deploying it as a service…which means working out all the bugs, so that it becomes something reliable. Is he taking on too much? Yes, absolutely. But it’s not as bad as it seems, because having regular commerce with the Empire will be of benefit to Gryndor and the Empire overall. And I still submit war is likely in 6 years. If Aranor and Shadow dies, then it’s favorable, and the Beastkin should kick off another War. They have t years to find counters to Ajax’s skills, and possibly subvert Deep Wood, and even the Empire. Nobody is mistaking this as anything other than a Ceasefire. Everyone is getting ready to resume hostilities. Ajax is working on weapons skills, the boat making will eventually make Gryndor stronger economically, so they can pay for the investment to their Champions. It’s not systematic, but then there really isn’t a systematic way to upgrade or create new Champions. Is it methodical and well coordinated? No, but it should be enough. 🙄🙄

Corwin

Creating a domain is not a leadership thing. Its a support thing. Delegation and responsibility is never a dump and leave it alone thing. Ajax has been starting projects, but he hasn't done anything to support his family and retainers in most of the projects he has dumped on them. That's perception and bad leadership. Yes, he is forgetful, trying to start the Schools during Death was bad, and he eventually got to correct that. But he didn't get that with every project. Whats he doing for the Ships? He isnt planning to join the exercise. Not even in a support role. A role he is capable of performing. And a role he could use to test a number of problems. Problems he should have prior knowledge of. His job wasnt to lead the command, but to be the support. The support to make sure his ships and people were safe. A job that he is failing to do. A domain wouldn't make it a cure all. But it would show that he was willing to be a support and help in a project he dumped on everyone for a year, in some matter. Its 4 ships. In a dry dock, that has limited the size of the ship, and the protypes he can build. Nor is he testing out anything. The proto shipbuilders are building to spec. The mock battle is where we will have some testing. But not all testing being done. With limited mages we arent even going to see many of the problems that can be done. And it is as bad as it seems. Nor does this affect commerce with the Empire and benefit both nations. Because currently the small size of the ships can't do much but move about 50 tons worth of cargo. If he set them up for a war setting since the Lake is an unknown. Commerce travels between roads currently. Making a water way system. Is a sinkhole. A sinkhole, that would take decades to build. Even if you just focus on 1 port city per nation its years. Most merchants, and companies who do import and export businesses is a decade long process, meaning they sign contracts that cover a decade worth of goods they are moving between citiies. Up ending such a process creates shortages, surpluses and rerouting decades worth of logistics. And with a 100 ton cargo that you might be able to move everyone's two weeks. You don't have the ability to move it from the port to anywhere in Gryndor. With the problem that merchants and companies have stiff penalties for breaking contracts. A War isnt favorable with Aranor and Shadow dead. Its not favorable even with them alive. Yes this is a ceasefire, and everyone is trying to gear up. But Elites are those who cross the level 100 barrier, champions are those who cross the 150 level barrier...and that doesn't count the regular soldiers. Not one nation counted how many regular soldiers they lost, they counted the elites and the champions. At elite and champion level currently the rate of development is about 1.25 a year. So how is an country going to be feel confident with their Elites and Champions being at 7.5 levels higher than they are today. Yes strengthening the economy makes sense for gearing up. But you can't count infrastructure and new industries an investment that pays off in 6 years. It pays off in decades and centuries. Its the long term gains not short. Not only that but building that infrastructure shortens the people who can go to war. And how is the Dwarves and Beastkin supposed to subvert Deep Wood, or the Empire in 6 years? Subversion takes years in this case. Communication isnt advance enough to make it happen quickly. Plus moving assets back into those countries can't happen quickly either. Plus you have slavery being dissolved which makes it even harder to plant someone close to certain individuals. Coupled with attempts at merging kingdoms, and Noblity. So how is this all going to be enough? Can I see Subversion being workable in the Empire Yes. Can I see it being workable in Ajax's duchy yes. Can I see Gryndor facing a crisis because Ajax pissed off everyone in Gryndor, yep. I can even see his family splitting away from him, definitely. The better version would have a splinter group hobble Hearthbound due to Ajax's behavior and force him to sit out the war because he has a revolt in his duchy, because he disrupted villages, merchants and Nobles so quickly that he can't go to any war that starts. And have Ajax kill someone he didn't mean to and cause social distress but allow him to go to war. Even if none of that happens. Rerouting everything to make the port work. Requires hundreds of animals to be moved to run the new routes, plus building the infrastructure for said animals along the new routes. As well as rerouting patrols and guard stations. Maybe even building new waystations for travelers and merchants. As well as making sure the roads are maintained. Since with more traffic means roads are more likely to breakdown.

userunfriendly

I think we’re beating a dead horse, here. 🐴. Yes, we both see the massive disadvantages of the port city…unless Ajax plans to partner with Anna Goldmancer…😳😳 So let’s just wait and see what Keleros writes. Now partnering with Anna Goldmancer…deep cash reserves, infrastructure to take advantage of the commerce, contacts…and it would give her a decisive edge on her family squabbles…Could that be it?! Ajax just needs to construct the city, clear the monsters, and provide proof of concept…even her family would be in awe at Anna acquiring a MONOPOLY on water trade with the Empire…decisively squashing any questions about her fitness to rule Goldmancer. 😳😳 As for Ajax getting more involved with running the duchy…Ajax is better keeping his hands off. Like an Asian family business, he’s getting stronger, doing alchemy, things he actually has a talent for. Everyone is family, so they can be trusted. He’s marrying Lexi, who has been taught ruling, though once her aptitude showed, they reduced those lessons…😂🤣😂🤣. LIKE Ajax…🙄🙄😂🤣. But Ajax realized that EVERYONE is better at running things than he was. His job is really to look intimidating, and growl, because he’s a Pinnacle. And as we saw with the current chapters on RR, he’s very good at intimidating nobles. 😈😈. That’s a job only Ajax can do…because at the end of the day, retaining noble status is based on BLOOD. 🔨🪓 But that’s a hell of an interesting idea…partnerships with Anna…🫡🫡

userunfriendly

This SHOULD be Ajax’s master plan…sell shares in Nassau to Goldmancer, Manashaper, Steelblade, the Crown and the Imperial family, once he verified that the lake monsters aren’t a threat. Hearthbound retainers and family keep the Trailblazers, their loyalty will shoot through the roof…😈😈. But by sharing the risks (financial and personnel) with the big players, he diffuses the risk to Hearthbound, and gets them all involved in a massive money making venture, that requires a huge investment, but the returns are for centuries, and if nobody gets greedy, MASSIVE. 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑 Best of all, EVERYONE wins. The Imperial family gets a massive revenue and prestige boost, ditto for the Royal family, everybody becomes closely linked financially, and Hearthbound Allies start making money. Ajax might be inventing Venture Capitalism…😳😳🤯🤯

Corwin

The problem with partnering is the short supply of gold reserve that is available. We are all aware of how much everyone is building up for the next war. Treasures to advance new talents, hire more mercenaries, make more equipment from there. Which effects multiple houses, nor can it be ignored. The second problem is the cost of losing ships. Just on normal weather patterns without monsters, during the 1800s was 1 in 7. With monsters we would have at least that or double that. Lost ships and cargo are expensive. So no monopoly for anyone. But the goal from making a Domain is to show a measure of support. A measure of support for a project he started. And he is sinking thousands of golds into. With the option of losing hundreds of golds for the ships he will lose while doing this. These facts might be exasperated with poor designs. While we don't know if pirates will be a thing with anything with aquatic Awakened Races, we can't rule it out either. A 3/14 loss in ships and people just from monsters and weather. Will hit the investment bottom line. So again thats a 21% loss from the start. Since Ajax is paying for death benefits your profit margin should not be high at all. Especially since spoilage from overland will be less. Actually his noble status is retained by ability. And making your retainers and family miserable or unhappy isnt a remarkable ability. Making people feel unappreciated and other things don't help show ability either. Ajax getting stronger isnt bad. Not showing support for the projects he started is.

userunfriendly

I really can’t argue with your analysis. Ships are a high risk investment, one that coukd prove disastrous. Let’s see how it plays out. Having Lexi teach Domains is the best bet. He doesn’t have to learn it himself. Part of Command Functions is leading your people. He’s not doing that, but he’s not ignoring it either. And really, in the next war, Hearthbound’s levy will be Ajax and Aurexion. So if he keeps training, he’s sparing everyone else from another meat grinder. As long as Ajax is mostly successful with his projects, he’ll be ok. And if the Ships fail, Hearthbound will be out a significant amount of cash, but the skills alone might be worth it? 🤔🤔

Corwin

Lexi teaching what two people? Really...you want to have everyone but Ajax in Hearthbound going to have a Domain. Because optics would say something entirely differently. Hearthbound's levy will be for a landed Duke in the next war. Which is champions, elites, and troops. So this is going to be learning experiences for Hearthbound levies, troops, elites, and champions with Ajax. So he isnt sparing anyone from the meat grinder. He will be taking them with him. While it is most likely not going to be with Ajax in charge of all the troops. He is going to be nominally in charge of them. So he needs to figure out how to support his Troops now, when its easy. He wont be okay. Success does not make the only Metric that determines success in a group. Ajax needs to recognize some costs to his House and people. He can't just focus on himself and dump everything on them. I don't think the Ships will fail. But the unknown costs will have consequences. Especially if Ajax doesn't take the time to test them before they go sailing. The skills are going to make it worth something. Plus when he uses ships to build a Zeppelin.

userunfriendly

I’m beginning to think more and more that a Zeppelin might be ideal…particularly, if Ajax Siphons out the mana from the lift cells. The speed of sound is greater in a mana saturated area, right? That makes me think it’s heavier, because sound travels faster in a denser medium. So, if Ajax sucks out the mana from the lift cells, it should be even more buoyant than before, because of the denser mana filled air. 🤔🤔 Ajax is hardly dumping everything on them. He’s taken the leadership position every time there’s something he’s good at, and supporting the house as a premier combatant. The disaster happens when Ajax tries to do t]something he’s not good at. 😱😱 Hearthbound’s levy will be risking the life of its head. Anybody protesting they’re not doing enough, can go duel Ajax. 😈😈

Corwin

A Zeppelin will limit a number of options and transportation. As well as making it more difficult. The process to make hydrogen gas would still be possible but would be dangerous. And it would definitely limit trading value. But it would be something he can work in tangent between shipping by water as well as by air. No he dumps. He is terrible at leading a group. But he also is terrible at supporting his house and retainers. Yes he is a talented fighter, but that isnt what got him the title. It is objectively what he prefers to do, and alchemy as well. Can he do things others can't...yes. But he doesn't attempt to do much for his House when he realistically he can. Ajax swears off responsibilities as much as possible to be independent. Forcing Tom and others to do more. What did he do in the Capital, raided his grandparents warehouses for reagents for Alchemy constantly. What does he do in his duchy? Raid for ingredients. Does he catalog any of it? Does he budget for it? No. That's for everyone else to do. When he does research for anything does he supply a budget? Does he have a budget? Again no. Does he advance any of his retainers skills, help them unlock skills, or get any of them or his Family to Elite? Answer is no. So the premiere combatant for Hearthbound is leading how? He gives a direction and ideas...but thats not leadership. Nor is that support. Every Noble house is required to supply troops, elites, and champions to various degrees. And since this war will be a lot more bloody than the last one, everyone will be required to send the levys that they are legally required to do. Ajax can toss out whatever he wants, but the optics of him failing would have dire repercussions. Not just everywhere but his duchy but his duchy the most.

userunfriendly

Yes, he’s an awful leader. But which is worse…trying to be a leader when you have no ability, or getting out of the way of people who can? I can totally see your viewpoint…fate made him into a leader, he should at least try. He did, and failed so badly, it was horrible. Remember how badly he was in the Academy small unit tactics classes? Ajax is a gifted subordinate, but not fit to lead. So he’s letting his family to do it. And he’s standing over them, with a scowl, fingering a hammer. They may not respect Hearthbound, but they’ll speak softly and politely when Ajax is in the room! 🔨🔨 Hopefully all they’ll want from Hearthbound is Ajax, and Aurexion. He’s terrible at leading troops into battle, see above. 🙄🙄😱😱

Corwin

Being an awful leader when you are the leader is no reason to dodge everything you possibly can when you are one. Taking on certain tasks and responsibilities when he is there. Also limiting yourself and actually acting like rules and procedures that everyone set up is important. Yes putting others in charge is necessary to make everything work. Especially since Ajax has made it a character trait to dodge responsibilities while claiming the head position. Actually they wont need to do any of that. Ajax has proven that he will bankrupt them sooner or later. Ajax's potential for combat and innovation is good. But he also leads forward enough with no way to cover his expenses. And as we heard from Kate, she had to deal with a small portion of that with Jake, already. Hearthbound will have those problems consistently because of Ajax. Ajax the Deterrent is only viable when his house is in good standing. And the longer it stands and the longer Ajax behaves that way, every Hearthbound member has a shinning example of how to behave and cause their destruction in Ajax. Because its doubtful that they will have his power at an early age. Which is why Ajax should participate as a support now. Picking something he can work on and something with potential in a new direction. Domains increases mana density in an area. 4 domains increases lots of possibilities. It also has the potential to push Nelly to be another domain user for Hearthbound. Tristan as a Domain user for the Healing Union and Hearthbound, and Lexi to attempt having a support Domain to go with her offensive Domain. It also has the possibility of Ajax finding someone in command who can lead Hearthbound troops. Someone with the capability to lead who Ajax wouldn't mind using to lead while he was the subordinate but acting like he was in charge. Keep in mind this exercise is important militarily, commercially, and historically. There is very little reason for Ajax to not participate. And taking on a support role isnt the wrong role for Ajax. If Ajax can unlock multiple domains, having a support role for his ships and a support role after battle is a good thing. Having a Healing Tent with Light and Holy with Tristan and other healers is beneficial. Personally I think Ajax should have the Healing Domain with Water, Light, and Holy. Due to the fact that humans are 70 percent water. But I leave that really to Keleros. But having Ajax take a Domain and participate isnt terrible and is beneficial. Just like taking nominal responsibilities for his actions, cataloging his own expenses, and following procedures that his family has set up are all beneficial and necessary.

userunfriendly

We’ll see. I agree with most of what you’re saying, Ajax has been cruising on “hands off mode” too long. Hopefully he’ll haul out something truly spectacular in his delve a year from now. (Which, to be fair, might be the only way for Keleros to use plot armor to pull Hearthbound out of the deep financial hole they’re working themselves into. 😱😱)