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Kev

Probably my favorite episode of the anime. Waaah such a short reaction though! Atypically for this channel, I've noticed most of the discussion for Evangelion has been focused on the plot rather than the characters. I suppose it's understandable for a first-time watch but the thing that keeps me coming back to Eva is the characters and this extended episode is a great example of that.

Hiren Patel

4 more episodes to the end. Then the end of eva. Then the Rebuilds. The plan is still on!

Kendall Roy 🇧🇷

I’m going to talk about the episode, but first I have to congratulate Lola, Milena, and the 52% of Serbians for everything, I left some comments on yesterday’s post but I was so insane with everything that was going on in my country that I couldn’t express myself properly. but what you achieved is truly historic, I’ve been following the protests since the events in Novi Sad in 2024 and these have been some of the largest political demonstrations I’ve ever seen. Me, my friends and a lot people here celebrated your victory out on the streets yesterday along with our own! ❤ About the episode: It is truly tragic how Asuka feels a need for approval and a desire to be seen as an adult. This explaining her obsession with sex and physical contact with Kyle, being a teenager going through puberty certainly plays a role? yes, but it is also deeply tied to the emotional acceptance she craves. Ironically this behavior only confirms her immaturity in the eyes of those who are truly adults and no matter how hard she tries to appear otherwise, all her actions scream that she is just a child. Her sense of inferiority is so draining that even though she longs to connect with others she always ends up pushing them away. In her mind it is inconceivable that anyone could have feelings for her beyond admiration or the belief that she is the best at everything. What a fantastic episode, one of the best written anime.

Kendall Roy 🇧🇷

Really? I don’t get that impression, it’s pretty obvious that the plot interests them, but it’s hard not to become obsessed with it when you want to understand it so badly. Still i think they place a lot of emphasis on the characters, especially Shinji.

Mateo Jurgens

It's around this episode you can start to see how this show influenced Chainsaw Man

Milen Karabadzhakov

The vibes between this post and the previous post on this patreon couldn't be more different....

refo44

Congratulations to the people of Serbia on this historic electoral victory! A powerful moment for democracy and the will of the people! 🎉 And here's a perfect happy song to celebrate! 🥳🎶 https://www.instagram.com/reel/DceT8xMhEzA

refo44

Also congratulations to all our Brazilian friends for their electoral process!

Kev

This does a good job reminding me why I'm not a fan of the Rebuilds, everything around it is so obsessively content-brained.

refo44

My comments about this episode: This episode introduces the Fifteenth Angel, Arael. Its name appears in Gustav Davidson's 1967 A Dictionary of Angels, where it is described as "one of the spirits which the rabbis of the Talmud made prince over the people of the birds." Davidson also associates Arael with the alternative name Ariel, one of whose historical meanings is "Light of God." This is particularly interesting considering Arael's enormous luminous wings and birdlike appearance. The music accompanying Arael's attack is also interesting. The episode uses two movements from George Frideric Handel's Messiah. The first is the famous "Hallelujah Chorus," based on passages from the Book of Revelation celebrating God's eternal sovereignty. The second is "Worthy Is the Lamb... Amen," whose lyrics praise the Lamb sacrificed for humanity, traditionally identified with Jesus. What appears to be a magnificent angel descending from heaven is actually invading Asuka's mind and forcing her to confront memories she desperately wants to escape. The music celebrates divine glory while the images show Asuka completely powerless before an incomprehensible celestial being. The attack is particularly disturbing because it violates her psychological boundaries, forcing her to relive her most painful memories without her consent or any ability to control or stop the intrusion. To me, this was clearly a form of psychological rape. This episode finally reveals the tragic childhood behind Asuka's personality. Her biological mother, Kyoko Zeppelin Soryu, suffered a severe psychological breakdown following a contact experiment involving an Evangelion. This recalls what we learned in previous episodes about Yui Ikari's disappearance during a contact experiment with Unit-01 in 2004, although Asuka's mother's experiment was a separate incident. After her breakdown, Kyoko could no longer recognize her daughter and instead treated a doll as if it were her real child. Meanwhile, Asuka's father began a relationship with another woman, whom he married after Kyoko's suicide. An unidentified male voice confirms her death during the flashback, saying, "It's too cruel. She committed suicide, leaving behind such a young girl." I think it's easy to see how Asuka could have felt abandoned by both parents. She consequently resolved never to cry or depend on anyone again, determined to become strong enough to live on her own. Her constant need for recognition shows how heavily her self-worth depends on how others see her. This makes her rivalry with Shinji and Rei especially painful, since losing her position as the best pilot could make her feel that she no longer matters to anyone. People usually consider Asuka a tsundere, but I disagree. In anime, a tsundere is a character who acts mean or hostile toward someone they secretly like. Asuka's hostility, however, is rooted in childhood trauma and a deep fear of rejection and abandonment. The doll imagery also makes the elevator confrontation with Rei particularly interesting. Here, Asuka calls Rei a doll because she obeys Gendo's orders. Considering Asuka's childhood, the accusation takes on a much more personal meaning, since a doll was literally the object that replaced her in her mother's affection. There is also an interesting contradiction in Asuka's attitude toward the Evangelions. She wants the Eva to behave like the very thing she despises, an obedient doll without an independent will. The scene where Asuka empties the bathtub has an interesting Japanese cultural context. In traditional Japanese households, people wash and rinse their bodies before entering the bathtub, or ofuro (お風呂), which is primarily used for soaking and relaxation in hot water. Unlike us Westerners, who are more accustomed to using fresh bathwater each time, Japanese families traditionally share the same bathwater because everyone is expected to be clean before getting in. Asuka's disgust, however, goes beyond the bathwater, extending to sharing the washing machine, toilet, and even the air they breathe, before she ultimately admits that the person she hates most is herself. According to an interview with Hideaki Anno and Yūko Miyamura, Asuka's Japanese voice actress, Miyamura was taking beginner-level German conversation lessons after being cast because she had been told that the character would speak the language. However, when the telephone scene was recorded, only the opening and closing lines had been established, leaving Miyamura to prepare most of the German dialogue herself. Some native German speakers have pointed out that her pronunciation has a strong Japanese accent, making parts of the conversation difficult for them to understand. Maybe The Robert can confirm this for us? :) The official Platinum Edition commentary provides an approximate translation. Asuka exchanges ordinary family small talk, mentions that she has just finished dinner, and apparently declines a suggestion to introduce a boy, probably Shinji, describing him as not particularly sociable. The episode also reveals that Evangelion production is expanding on a much larger scale than previously shown. Hyuga reports that construction has begun on nine new Evangelions, numbered from Unit-05 through Unit-13, across seven locations worldwide, with information arriving through Shanghai. The budget has apparently doubled, and Hyuga suggests that the expansion could be intended to replace damaged or destroyed Evangelions or prepare for simultaneous Angel attacks. However, Misato suspects that something else is happening behind the scenes. Another important development is Gendo's decision to use the Spear of Longinus against the Fifteenth Angel, Arael. Here, the weapon is finally used in combat, demonstrating that it can penetrate an Angel's AT Field even at an extraordinary distance. During Rei's descent into Terminal Dogma, Misato becomes alarmed at the possibility of bringing an Eva so close to Adam, since she believes that contact could cause Third Impact. Gendo nevertheless authorizes the operation, and Misato realizes that NERV has been withholding information and lying to her about this as well. Afterward, the spear continues toward lunar orbit, beyond NERV's ability to retrieve it. Finally, I think the most tragic aspect of Asuka's rescue is that being saved by Rei only makes her suffering worse. People often overlook the fact that Asuka has just become a victim of psychological rape, yet being forced to depend on someone she considers a rival leaves her feeling even more humiliated. Although the Angel is defeated, Asuka is left psychologically broken, with her pride and the emotional defenses she has relied on since her mother's death completely shattered.

Kev

The montage of Asuka repeating the same lines over and over again is done by the voice actresses of other characters in the show, furthering the theme of Asuka's identity fragmenting as she struggles to hold onto who she is.

Darrach

I think it’s an interesting detail that the girls gleaned from the number 13 in biblical terms, that being a disruption to Gods complete and perfect order of 12. NERVs motto is ‘Gods in His Heaven, All’s Right with the World’. Knowing what we do know at this stage about NERV and Gendos plans, I think this motto means that if God is in his domain, he isn’t in ours, and that is exactly how it should be. A rejection of an interventionist God essentially, and a message of defiance against a being that would dictate terms to humanity on their own turf. Fits rather well to an organisation that exists to meddle in matters of Adam, Angels, Evas and souls.

Kev

Seeing child Asuka looking all serious at her mom's funeral is so sad. She really did try to grow up quickly. And then she breaks in the final "So look at me", and so does my heart. The elevator shot is iconic, it lasts for over 50 seconds of palpable tension. The body language is so telling, with Asuka trying her hardest to look casual and Rei genuinely not caring. I love how the final shot of the episode has the caution tape physically separating Shinji and Asuka as if visualizing their inability to connect. The idea of the Hedgehog's Dilemma comes back with the revelation of Asuka pushing other people away to not get hurt. It's so bleak comparing the scenes at home to how it was in the early episodes, it was all fun and games and now all of them are sitting in their own issues. There's no banter or jokes over dinner, just uncomfortable silence. Just like how none of the pilots are even bothering to go to school anymore.

CharlieCharlie

It's the hopeful vs hopeless, indeed a big contrast

James Long

Gone back and forth on this episode over time. Asuka is one of my favorite characters in the show and I just hate seeing her get tortured like she does in this episode. And once again I'm going to recommend Journal with Witch to everyone. Please check it out if you haven't. Only 13 episodes. One of the best new shows this year.

CharlieCharlie

This is the episode that made me realize where I was mentally at the time of watching this show. The whole "I don't need anyone, I'm enough myself" mindset becomes your only escape route when everyone around you is letting you down, just like Asuka has been let down by the world she grew up in. I love Rei and Shinji for what they represent as well (and I'll definitely talk more about them by the end), but Asuka will always leave me the biggest impact of them all, and be my favorite character, because she reminds me where I was back then and how much better it is where I am now: with an open heart. Great reactions to this show. The theorizing, the headaches, confusion, hopelessness, anger and what's yet to come is the Evangelion experience.

Username123

The scene where asuka remembers her mother killing her self and the doll that she thinks is asuka is so powerful, you rarely get to see asukas vulnerable side throughout the show so it really hits hard hearing her beg her mom to not stop being her mom. And to think I thought this show was just a regular mecha anime when I first started it😂

Yoshi444

As much as I love Shinji and consider him one of the best-written characters in fiction, I always hesitate when choosing a favorite between him and Asuka, precisely because of this episode. We’ve already had a bunch of episodes focused on Shinji’s mental state, whether it’s him wandering the city alone or that image of him on a train at sunset, but with Asuka, all of her trauma is concentrated into this single episode. It is handled with the necessary rawness, so as not to sugarcoat Asuka’s deplorable state. I’ve seen other anime attempt to emulate this kind of mental torment or introspection (whether forced, as it is here, or self-imposed). Some succeed, others fail, but I can’t help but use this episode as the benchmark every single time.

Scrub

Congratulations to the people of Serbia! Your Bulgarian brothers, sisters, and others, are all very happy for you!

circleface

i love how this episode recontextualizes all of Asuka's interactions with Shinji and Rei. As much as Asuka has a reputation for pushing people away, if you rewatch some of the earlier episodes you'll notice that she actually does try to reach out to others multiple times in her own clumsy dysfunctional way. In particular I always thought it was both funny and sad that Asuka's "Wall of Jericho" comment is revealed to be her earnestly trying to flirt with Shinji, and it never occurred to the academically gifted early college graduate that an average Japanese 14-year old probably wouldn't understand an obscure Biblical reference 😅

jose giron

Hey Ladies congrats on getting your country back from the grips of corruption 🙏🙏hopefully we are next 😭

Floweyyyy

It is interesting to note how Asuka and Shinji are basically two sides of the same coin. Both share a need for validation from others (especially from people they love and care about), a sense of loneliness, and trauma stemming from abandonment by a parental figure. Another interesting thing to note is how both possess defense mechanisms that seek to distance them from people and prevent them from forming true connections, due to a fear of getting hurt by getting close to others (It’s something that makes the two of them the ultimate example of the "hedgehog’s dilemma" that was mentioned at the beginning of the anime).

Floweyyyy

Another interesting detail here is that, during the intense mental experience Asuka endure, she seems to realize that Shinji has somehow gotten past the emotional walls she’s built around herself and found his way into her heart. She then recalls the scene where they kissed and says something along the lines of, “You didn’t even hold me”. This suggests that she ran off because she was upset that Shinji didn’t embrace her and that made her feel somehow rejected (of course, there is the fact that Shinji was trying not to die suffocated XD, but Asuka's insecurities wouldn't allow her to see that). Anyway, Shinji’s own emotional defenses also play a role in the dynamic between them. He tends to be passive, run away and withdraw into himself rather than openly express what he wants or how he feels, largely out of fear of rejection. So while Shinji IS attracted and has feelings for Asuka (we’ve seen plenty of moments suggesting that) he, like Asuka, also struggles to express that attraction/feelings in ways Asuka can recognize and understand. Ultimately, both of them want affection and reassurance, but their respective defense mechanisms get in the way of communicating those needs, leaving them frustrated and unable to understand each other (at least so far).

Berezant

God this episode is still tough to watch. FYI the repeated Asuka scene is played by other actresses doing an Asuka imitation. I believe the order is Misato, Rei, Maya, Ritsuko? I don't remember for sure. I always interpreted that scene as the angel rummaging through her mind, finding memories/echoes of other people and going "Is this you? No? What about this one?" It's a pretty horrifying process to imagine. Also, as a dumb teen watching this show, I really disliked Asuka up to this point (Let's say my family has a bunch of Asuka and I'm more of a Rei), but after this episode I suddenly looked around my family and went 'ooooooh'. It was a humbling moment 😅

Kaarel Jakobson

The ending is unbearably tragic because there's just absolutely nothing Shinji can say or do to make it better, no matter how proactively caring he tried to be. There's no right words (as the cordon indicates). And "I'm glad you're okay" is an an especially lame thing to say because he is not equipped to deal with this whatsoever. It feels like a crack team of empathetic child psychologists would have a hard time with Asuka BEFORE the events of this episode. Misato comes off looking pretty bad just sitting there listening to Asuka break down earlier in the episode, but I think she's just self-aware enough to know that she wouldn't accomplish anything approaching someone so hostile. But she still should have tried something. On another note, I think the technique of rapid montages of text/images and loud noises to depict intrusive thoughts is brilliant.

noface

yuppppp skip the rebuilds

Samuel

Joooooooooooderrrrrr, que buen capitulo, este lo tengo bien marcado por la cancion usada, ya nunca volvi a escuchar el Aleluya igual

Victor Katilis

Alright, as nobody seemed to mention this: The looping voicelines are delivered by the rest of the female voice cast. The phrases and moments repeated are picked to show the eminence front (it's a put on! (c)) she's built around herself - the most embarrassing displays of it to boot. She is obviously painfully aware of what she presents to others and of the embarrassment- hence 'No, it's not me!'.