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Fringe Reaction 2x14 (Patreon)

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2024-12-19 15:00:09
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2024-12-20 11:09:00
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Hello All!   

Nazi's return in this terrifying episode of Fringe science. We get a look into the Bishop family or should I say Bishoff? I'm glad that Peter managed to get Walter's belongings back and to see them both smile and reminisce over family history. Looks as though Walter took after his father in pushing the boundaries of science and life. Through working for the FBI, Peter is now experiencing that bond with his Dad and it's brilliant to see the growth.

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Will Sofer

So, you’re right: the guy was definitely the same Nazi scientist as the one in the picture with Walter’s dad. Not time travel, though. When Walter is describing Nazi fringe science, he mentions that they were searching for the scientific solution for eternal youth. When Walter is examining the DNA of the killer, he says that the degradation of the telomeres in his DNA indicated the man was over a hundred years old (though Walter dismisses this possibility). It seems the guy found out how to extend his lifespan, and not age. Presumably, the secret of how to do so died with him.

Will Sofer

As far as to why Walter killed him, I think it’s two-fold: 1) It’s pretty much what Walter said. He was furious that his father’s work was being used for the purposes of Nazi eugenics, to wipe out the “undesirables”. However, I don’t think Walter’s primary concern was saving lives. 2) He tried to kill Walter. You can see the anger on Walter’s face in the lab when he takes off the mask, before he sees the atomizer he used to kill the guy. He looks at the burner that the compound was heated up on. So…. Walter killed the man because he was angry, and wanted revenge (imho). This is the kind of the startling truth of Walter: as much as we (the audience) love him, and can usually understand his motives, Walter is not a saint. He can be dangerous. I mean, he experimented on children, performed experiments on people without their knowledge or consent, and kidnapped Peter from his family in the other world. He may have had a reason for doing these things, but it shows that he’s willing to cross bright red lines of morality and conscience to get what he wants. Walter outright murdered the guy, and he did so primarily for vengeance. Of course, the guy was also a Nazi and a racist mass murderer, so Broyles let it slide. (EDIT: Oh, and Walter definitely called Astrid “Ostrich”. lol)

FedeM

I think it relates to dealing with the consequences of one's actions. Robert Bishop's work was used with evil intent by others but he still created it and put it out into the world and Walter may feel particularly sensitive to the topic since he himself is trying to accept the consequences of his own actions and he's trying to take responsibility for them, this season particularly

DB

I forgot about this one and thought it was gonna be the next episode... Anyway, Walter's one tiny step away from that "now kiss!" meme ;) I also gave that purple tuxedo way too much thought and I now have ~opinions on it lol I've decided that Peter can totally pull it off despite probably being a 70s velour monstrosity lol BTW I know it's supposed to be dramatic and all but the delivery of that "Bishoff, traitor!" line made me cackle.

Katie

Weird coincidence that you were burning a purple candle during that episode 😆 I've noticed that whenever Walter calls Astrid by the wrong name, it's still Astrid in the subtitles. Great reaction and so excited for next week's pair of episodes!

DB

I gotta say despite not understanding either, I'm more scared of Nazis than science. The former just feel like more tangible threat in the current world. I guess I'm not a particularly optimistic person in general and it's been a while since humanity tried to wipe itself out in a global conflict...

Neumann

nah, if some immortal mad nazi scientist is gonna exist with the knowledge and knowhow to create the perfect master race creating toxin, that mfer's gotta be stopped at all costs. even if he were to just be arrested, what's to stop him from teaching it to others, inmates, other murderers he's imprisoned with? sure most of them will be average joes, but there are definitely people who would be interested in something like that and nothing but time to learn in a high security prison. and that's assuming the government doesn't just make him disappear in order to have him develop such things for THEIR use. by the way, walter DID mention that the nazi's were studying the secret to eternal youth. looks like at least one of the cracked it lol

Cathy Gillies

Finally catching up Fringe. This was actually the first episode of Fringe I ever watched. I stumbled across it on late night television (Fringe was never on at prime time in Australia). I had no idea what was going on but the characters caught my interest straight away. After the following week's episode, I was hooked and went out and bought the season one DVDs.

TheMartinScott

A thought-provoking episode that delves into some heavy concepts. I wanted to chime in on your concerns about science, especially since it can be intimidating when portrayed as the harbinger of dangerous possibilities. First, it’s important to recognize that science is not inherently about creating dangerous things---it’s a tool. Science is how we "observe, measure, experiment, test, and refine hypotheses" to understand the world around us. Nothing in science is set in stone; everything is subject to change as we learn new things. Einstein’s theory of relativity, for instance, was a revolutionary shift from Newtonian physics, fundamentally altering how we understand space and time. Yet, it didn’t replace Newton’s physics---it refined it. We still use Newtonian physics today when its simpler precision suffices. Science thrives on this dynamic growth, equipping us to understand and mitigate the dangers it uncovers. Consider how long humanity has lived with technologies capable of harm---gunpowder, chemical weapons, nuclear technology, and more. These dangers often stem from ambition or misuse, not science itself. Yet for every threat, science provides the tools to understand, counteract, and protect ourselves. The genetic trait-targeting concept from the episode, while unsettlingly plausible, is just one of many threats humanity has faced over centuries. And still, science enables us to navigate these challenges, understand their implications, and create safeguards. Scientific knowledge is often easier to understand than people think. If it hasn’t been, the person explaining it either failed or didn’t understand it themselves. I often suggest finding a science communicator who is both brilliant and accessible. Neil deGrasse Tyson and Brian Cox come to mind; both break down complex topics beautifully. Michio Kaku is another excellent choice---he explores the possible, the unknown, and the edges of science (Fringe-worthy topics). Carl Sagan’s "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" is an incredible book that demystifies science and highlights its role in combating ignorance and fear. Sagan passionately explains that science is a way of thinking---a light in the darkness of superstition and uncertainty. He also expresses deep concerns: "I fear that as the world becomes more and more scientifically and technologically advanced, fewer and fewer people understand it." And, "Unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness." These fears are sadly becoming reality, fueled by anti-intellectualism and inadequate education, leaving people alienated from science and creating contrarians who think they’re skeptics. So, right now, in this moment, you are officially a scientist. You might think of scientists as distant figures in lab coats working on incomprehensible experiments, but that’s far from the truth. Science isn’t about credentials or job titles---it’s about curiosity, asking questions, and seeking to understand the unknown, just as you did in this video. It’s something you’ve always done---since your very first "why" question. Heck, I’m here because you notice things and are so clever. Don’t let what you "don’t" know intimidate you. Instead, let it fuel your curiosity. Nobody---not even the most brilliant minds in history---has everything figured out. My mentor was a Doctor of Mathematics, but his wife had to help him start a fire. This kind of disparity is common---it reminds us that everyone is an expert in some areas and a novice in others. Science isn’t about having all the answers---it’s about daring to ask the questions. This world, this reality, is so complex, and we know very little about it. Remember, you are a scientist---a real one---and you should proudly use the title when describing who you are. P.S. Did anyone mention Peter wasn’t affected by the toxin? The killer’s method couldn’t target an individual, so almost anything derived from Walter’s DNA would have affected Peter too.

Maria Dams

Kind of late to this but just found your reactions to my absolut favourite show. I just have one small wierd fact about this episode. It is kind of macabre that they would play the german national anthem (at around 2:15 in your video) at a jewish wedding with holocaust survivors in the family. But i guess most people wouldn't notice it and just think it is a nice piece by Haydn. Anyways i love your reactions and i still have alot to catch up. Thanks

Sara Croughan

Remember, sometimes you have to watch this and remember it's fiction and things won't always make sense lol. I do understand your frustration with certain parts and how they were handled but there will occasionally be an episode that either does not click like the others or it'll seem so far fetched... I just simply go with the flow on those Particular episodes because this show is too good to be bothered by it 😊