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Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers P2 (Patreon)

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2024-11-26 08:29:20
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Liesmith

"Inside you there are two Smeagols. One is a good boy. The other is a little shit." --Cherokee proverb

Nikolaus Trixner

One important thing to note regarding Grima and the stuff he tells Saruman: Saruman knows all of this. The exposition is purely for the viewer. Aragorn asking Theoden for mercy for Grima does have a consequence, but it's not a negative one. This is kinda one of the things that I think the movies didn't do too well, giving this exposition through Grima and therefore invalidating Aragorn's mercy.

Some Guy on the Internet

The backstory behind the Ents and the Entwives is a sad one. Basically, the Ents prefer living in forests while the Entwives prefer gardens and fields. They would visit each other whenever they felt the need. While the Ents live in Fangorn Forest, the Entwives lived across the river. However, during the War of the Last Alliance, Sauron scorched the Entwives' garden in an effort to delay the Last Alliance's march. After the war, the Ents went to visit, but found a barren wasteland instead. The Ents searched long and far, but never found the Entwives. By the time the Ents meet Merry & Pippin, it's been over 3000 years since an Entwife has been seen. Tolkien never gives a definitive fate of the Entwives, leaving it up to readers to decide if the Entwives perished or survived.

Miguel Aarón García

Turns out, Galadriel's "regular" gifts were way more valuable than anyone would have thought: Elven rope that's near unbreakable (unless it NEEDS to be cut) and unties itself when prompted, and elven cloaks that keep warm and mimetizes themselves with their surroundings. Basically magical gear.

Liesmith

My reaction to Aragorn sparing Wormtongue was identical to Alicia's. The guy's name is fuckmothering Wormtongue!

Le Karibou

Just as a little interesting fact : when Eowyn talks of Aragorn as ''Dunedain, descendant of Numenor''. Numenor was the uber-empire of men thousands of years ago, swallowed by the sea Atlantis style after Sauron let himself get captured by them and made them mess up everything. The men in the last Alliance that defeated Sauron in the first movie, Isildur, his father Elendil and all, those are the last survivors that fled when Numenor was destroyed. Back when they were ''pure'', men of Numenor lived up to 350-400 before dying of old age. Thousands of years later, it's a lot less, but still there. Hence Aragorn standing at 87 looking like a man in his thirties.

Connor Clemmons

Fun Fact: Our favorite dwarf Gimli actually had two actors playing his role. For the close ups we had John Rhys-Davis while for the wider/body shots we had his shorter counter part; Brett Beattie. If memory serves, John was actually one of the tallest cast members of the main crew so it's funny to realize that he got casted as one of the smallest members.

Normandy21

the flag tearing and flying away apparently wasn't planned it just happened

leviathan_13

Yeah, I agree with Alicia: Aragorn had no business stopping the king from executing Wormtongue. There is also nothing inherently wrong with it either: capital punishment is the standard for high treason. It's not even like Wormtongue redeemed himself or showed remorse at that point.

Nakhtichaos

When Aragon kicked the helmet he broke his toes also last movie when Sam ran into the river debris went through his foot and both shots were used in the final cut of memory serves

Scrubthulhu

Gandalf did not say "Some people just gotta die" 🤣 That is quite specifically the opposite message of the half-remembered line that is being referenced.

mitchhamilton64

"Gandalf the white. Gandalf the fool! Ha! Got em, Saruman."

Trevor Appel

14:32 The scene with the flag was pure happenstance, from being blown off the pole to landing near the trio

Lance Ivy

thats exactly what that was Gandalf telling saurumon through thayoden. God said you fired homie i got the job now .

Lance Ivy

thats the thing about the extended editions they are really just the additions for the most part the production company was just like cummon peter you gotta drop this runtime .

Egregore

Now watch the behind-the-scenes version of the hobbit camp where Andy Serkis in a full-body mocap suit crawls around on his hands and knees while speaking in tongues infront of a bewildered looking Frodo.

Linnaeus

Edoras is such an amazing set, and I love how perfectly they were able to match the description from the books: "Legolas gazed ahead, shading his eyes from the level shafts of the new-risen sun. 'I see a white stream that comes down from the snows,' he said. 'Where it issues from the shadow of the vale a green hill rises upon the east. A dike and mighty wall and thorny fence encircle it. Within there rise the roofs of houses; and in the midst, set upon a green terrace, there stands aloft a great hall of Men. And it seems to my eyes that it is thatched with gold. The light of it shines far over the land. Golden, too, are the posts of its doors." The Roherrim are basically "What if Anglo Saxons were a Steppe Nomad Horse Culture?", and so the names and place names are almost all Old English (Theoden, Theodred, Edoras, Eowen, Meduseld, eorlingas, Grima), like their language is where Hobbit came from (Holbytla, literally "Hole-Builder"). Plus their alliterative poetry and kennings, as we hear a bit later: Arise now, arise, Riders of Théoden! Dire deeds awake: dark is it eastward. Let horse be bridled, horn be sounded! Forth Eorlingas! This is very much in the style of the old norse Eddas.

StorytellerDave

Fun fact - Rohan means 'to run fast' or 'to hurry' in Hungarian, which makes it a rather apt name for Horselords.

Stuff1235

My favorite realization of these movies is when Aragorn reveals his age. Puts it into perspective how he’s 87, Gimli’s a dwarf in his hundreds, Legolas is an immortal elf who has likely lived a thousand plus years and Gandalf is a mythic wizard that’s lived even longer then that. The four main badasses of the Fellowship are geriatric uber chads. Just like in anime, in Middle-Earth don’t mess with the old guys

Mae

Damn if the universe doesn’t have a cruel sense of humor. I paused the video right before she started talking about death and mourning then almost immediately got a call a grandparent died. Went back to the vid looking to distract myself and then Alicia goes into a whole speech about grief and loss. Crying and laughing. Great analysis tho.

Roto

So it's never explicitly spelled out in the text, but what happened to the Entwives is pretty tragic. They didn't just dip and get divorced. See, they're lost in the same way that the Ents didn't know what had happened to the forests around Isengard. They didn't see what happened or find bodies, so they think they're lost. Ents and Entwives used to live apart because the Ents liked the untamed woods and Entwives preferred cultivated lands like farms and gardens. In the ancient War where Sauron lost his ring, Sauron burned the land where the Entwives lived leaving nothing but a barren waste behind. It's heavily implied that all the Entwives died during this. The problem is that the Ents weren't there and when they showed up, they couldn't find the Entwives and didn't realize Sauron killed them all. Thus they think they're 'lost'.

Linnaeus

Legolas' goofy looking CGI horse mount was something that was added by necessity. Orlando Bloom had fallen off his horse and broken a rib, so he couldn't do the catch and mount stunt that was originally intended. Their fix was to have the horse just run by him, have him sort of give a hop, and then in post they replaced him with a digital double. A similar bit, remember that scene where they find the slaughtered Uruk-Hai and Aragorn kicks the helmet and screams, thinking Pippin and Merry are dead? Peter Jackson kept asking for more takes because he noticed that Viggo was kicking the helmet harder each time and it was getting closer to the camera, and he wanted it to come flying past the camera and off-screen. Well, the last take, that's in the movie? That scream is so heartfelt because Viggo broke toes on that kick. Him going to his knees wasn't in the script, he's just actually in pain and trying not to break character and channel it into the scene.

Salem

Theoden may very well be my favorite character outside of the main group

TorrentAB

I think the reason he said not to kill him was not because he thought he didn't deserve to die, but because his actions would set the expectations of what his renewed rule would look like. If the king comes back to himself after being senile, and his first act is killing some people publicly in the streets, well you're not gonna feel safe. Even if his crimes are explained, a lot of people may see it more as covering up. Where as if he's banished with his deeds revealed, people are more likely to take comfort as the rule of law still took place even for the worst, and are also less likely to think it's a coverup as you don't leave alive the guy who can contradict your story if its a coverup. Also the first action of a kings rule is said to be an omen to what that kings rule will look like, which is why most kings upon coronation pardon some people and give gifts. A king who kills as his first action is a king whose rule will be dominated by bloodshed, whether other peoples or his own

YukoValis

You think them letting Grima go seemed like a bad idea here, you should have seen the book. Not only do they not kill him but keep him in service to the king there. They give him a battlement to lead to which he just runs away.

DocteurNS

Arwen thinks she's Kamina, being all. "Don't trust in yourself. Trust in me that trust in you."

Michael Mangskau

how did I know you'd lose it at Smeagol saying "raw and wriggling" lmao

V_VMat

27:00 This is not One Piece 😂

Chaxinitus

If I had a nickel for every time John Noble has played a father with a streak of being shitty, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but now I want to rewatch Fringe

Amber Stone

chuky wormtung is desuting

Leonheart009

“He’s not dead I’m in denial” me okay Cleopatra

Drewtendo

"No parent should have to bury their child" always gets me...

Shawn Stetson

Fun fact the flag of Rohan ripping wasn't on purpose it just happened naturally and the cameraman realized it was amazing symbolism so he kept filming

Silvia Dragoness

Trivia: At 14m25s in this video, when the flag rips off the pole in the wind; it's been widely reported that this was a complete coincidence, but the commentary track reveals that the flag was rigged to tear away; however, (IIRC) the *way* the flag was blown by the wind and fluttered down to land on the ground next to Aragorn *was* a purely random bit of serendipitous luck.

Malkalypse

Aragorn has some elf ancestors, which is the reason for his long lifespan.

Sawnderz

I tear up, rewatching the scene where the brother and sister leave their pillaged home, knowing the brother collapses the moment they reach salvation. Could be me projecting, but it tells me he, terrified of what they left behind, focused on his big brother responsibility, and only let himself collapse as soon as she was safe. That's some One Piece shit.

SweetCandle

"Where is Mama?" "Shh." and with that, the Lord of the Rings passes the Bechdel test.

MajestNick

First time subscriber here. Excited to watch Alicia in full here. This is the first video I watch. Starts out with her making weird noises at a horn in Lord of the rings. What have I given money to?

Kinji

The scene with the king talking about his son's death... my brother died at age 40 and I'll never forget my mother's words as she grieved, saying it isn't right, a mother shouldn't have to bury her son.

DeadlyDangerRanger

Sad Fact: Earlier this year (2024), Bernard Hill, the actor who played King Theoden, passed away at the age of 79.

Random3x

Sad thing iirc the ent wives were confirmed to have been killed by Sauron in the appendices or taken away so far any attempt to rejoin the two would never work out. So it wasn't the ent wives ghosting their husbands.

Ben Gross

1:08:00 fun fact, they used an actual crowd for the sound effect here, they went to a football game I believe and had the crowd make these noises

Gabe

When Gandalf is advising Theodin to ride out to meet Saruman's armies, he puts his hand on the arm of his throne. Grimma does the same thing in other scenes. Theodin, after being manipulated for so long is probably terrified that he'll be manipulated again, and Gandalf's actions probably triggered that fear. It's a really good detail, and you can see Theodin look at Gandalf

Minidiamant

idk if that is how the houses of the city of Rohan on the hill is made, but in terms of structural integrity I know a village on the mountain, NONE of the houses have foundations, or at least very little, they are all connected to each other and they simply hold by heavily sitting on the mountainside. At least that's what I was told.

Nathan Jones

Fun fact: while Tolkien only gave a little insight to how the evil forces and races thought in Lord of the Rings all indications are that while the orcs followed Sauron out of fear the Uruk-Hai were very loyal to and fond of Saruman. They even had a special nick name for him: Sharkey, which was likely based on the orc word sharcu which means old man. In other words they all called him pops.

Kyutoko

Galadriel DID say "May these cloaks hide you from the eyes of your enemies"

Kyutoko

Gandalf's not just "old as hell" for the 18000 or so years he's been in mortal form. He's an Ainu, a being that existed in spiritual form before time and space existed. Before the universe itself. He's older than time itself.

LordVed

I always felt that the song at the funeral being cut short was a way to represent how young Theodren was when his life, like the song, abruptly gets cut short.