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Andor 2x7+8

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Wildstar

Some of my favorite episodes of TV right here. Thanks for the upload

Alex

Absolute cinema, can't wait for the next two episodes!

Jobbe Smit

Yeah this show and especially the last episode are a vibe.

Rasmus Helm

Ohh, Episode 8 hits like a Bitch in the feels. One of the best Episode I have ever seen.

Drake

The ending credits of Episode 8 have a Ghorman song playing and it is haunting.

Jacob Funckes

32:14 I am literally sick and tired of all your slander and lies towards Vel, I don't care for your excuses for why you unjustly hate her, I'm just going to skip it and ignore it. And no, I'm not going to agree to disagree as you're just wrong about her utterly and completely.

Phantom Penance

As they said in 12 Years A Slave: “Your story is amazing…and in no good way.” Andor is incredible, but by God am I depressed by it. Imperials and Ghorman, both were sent there just to die. And they died for worse than nothing: they died so the Empire can make a super weapon to kill millions more.

Patrick Waldeck

I love the absolute clash of the titans between Cassian and Syril, how in a high fantasy sci-fi series with laser guns and space magic it comes down to a filthy all out fistfight. Syril fought with his entire soul against what he thought was his nemesis, and died realizing Cass has no idea who the fuck he is.

MN01

I like how Ep 8 is showing cracks among the Imperial Characters and that deep down that they finally are starting to realize that the thing they've been fighting for is a lie. A lie they've been fed and gaslighted into believing for most of their lives. I'm honestly kind of disappointed with how Cyril's story ended. It seemed like he was on the edge of defecting after realizing that the Empire is not what he was told it was growing up and that the ideals he tried uphold are also a lie. I feel like that fight with Cassian could have ended a bit differently with how he was hesitating. Honestly, Cyril's actions seemed like he was just unleashing all the pent up emotion that had built up to that point and was just venting it out. But once he was all vented out it was like he had a sort of clarity on his face just before he was shot. How crazy would it have been if he'd turned then and there after finally unleashing everything on the person he deemed responsible for everything going wrong in his life? Only to realize that he wasn't his enemy, not really. Then there is Meera, who is also showing cracks over what she's being forced to do, and losing Cyril on top of it and the desperation in her at the end shows that her world is crashing down around her and that its finally hitting her that she might have chosen the wrong side.

Legion

I don’t understand why they don’t like her

Robert Collard

It’s like they absolutely refuse to realize how Luthen is becoming like Saw at this point and the people close to him and the first people to point that out (Vel, Mon and Cinta) is ignored or just outright hated yet when Andor and Bix pointed it out they act like it’s the first time they ever heard it.

Robert Collard

The entire meaning of this three part chunk is people realizing what they are going to do now the train is off the tracks. Over the year time jump the original leader of the Gorman Front began to realize that they walked into a dangerous trap against the empire, but could not convince the younger generation (including his daughter) what was going to happen Cyril has never been a hardline Empire guy, he is a person who believes in law and order and justice being served. The problem was he is a member of the Empire. In any other story Syril would be the hero and Andor would be the villain. Had Syril found out about what was going on in Gorman a year ago he would have absolutely left in disgust and either would have more than likely been killed due to what he knew or found a way to help people. Sadly it was too little too late and he paid for it with his life Dedra obviously knows the kind of shit she is into due to being ISB but she had hope that she could keep her soul and the one person she loved but ultimately realized she couldn’t. Even the Senator for Ghorman realized the fatal mistake he made in not trusting and siding with Mon when she tried to muster up all the support she could in the previous year to protect Ghorman There are a couple other people to mention but we have to wait for episode 9 The funny thing is the only people who realized that things needed to change and actually took action are the people at Yavin Base, including Vel, Bix and Andor (for a time) . They realized that at this point doing what Luthen wanted was for the most part a net negative for the Rebellion and had to move on from him in order to make it succeed. We see what Luthen’s actions have led to as he had an indirect hand in what would become the Ghorman Massacre.

Thenorthie

Syril's arc shows how Fascism kills it's own supporters. It chews them up and spits them out when no longer useful. And even if Syril walked away, he might just go off to the loneliest place in the Galaxy and spend his days.

Thenorthie

For Syril, he has been dreaming of this meeting for years. Cassian is just questioning why some random civilian just jumped him in the middle of a shootout

Thenorthie

They couldn't just stop roasting Vel for one second. The whole group has left Luthen aside from Wil.

Legion

So their issue is that Vel has been trying to talk about a life outside of the rebellion and how it could be a possible distraction (despite a life outside of the rebellion is what they are rebelling for)? Vel wanting to talk about that stuff hasn’t been a distraction or a detriment to their operations. It feels like they constructed a worse version of Vel in their heads and are mad at that

Robert Collard

In a non-joking way for Syril those corpos getting killed and what happen to him on Ferrix was the worst day of his life. For Andor it was Space Tuesday

Basstimefunstick

Syril isn’t having issues with what’s being done, only that he was being used for it. He had no issues with what the empire did on Farix. Syril is a Fascist through and through; and as Fascism demands of all “citizens”, he views himself as a hero. This is why he carries himself like a soldier even as a rent-a-cop, in a regime that has both volunteer and conscription military units. It’s why he tailored his uniform to look more military ready. The empire treating him as it did simply sent the message of how utterly irrelevant he was. There are no actual heroes under fascist regimes, because fascist regimes do not have genuine beliefs. The fascist only believes what the sovereign believes, and the sovereign only believes what is useful or feels good to them at a given moment. That’s why he attacked Cassian instead of fleeing to change sides. It was all he could do to reestablish the hero fantasy in his head. Maybe if he nabbed the one responsible for all of this, he could once again be viewed as a hero of the empire. And this is why the line “Who are you?” was so devastating. It, again, reinforced how irrelevant he was. He did not matter; not to the Empire and not to the Rebellion. He died not a hero of the Empire, just another expendable cog in the machine, no different than any other.

Iain McDonald

I disagree wholeheartedly. Syril is honestly a good man born at the wrong time. If he was born in the Republic, he would likely have been one of its greatest members. Likely completely uncorruptable, unbribable, relentlessly pursuing in the name of justice. When we first meet him, what gets him in trouble is his inate sense of justice for murdered colleagues. When we meet him in season 2, even though he does boast, you can tell that he truly believes that "Doing your job well, even if you're just a cog" is a noble aspiration. What sets him apart from Dedre is that Syril believes in justice, and promotions/accolades are simply seen as the result of doing a good job. Dedre (and a lot of the rest of the empire) see the promotion/accolades as the goal, not the side effect of good work.

The Emperor Moth

When they sent the inexperienced Army Troopers to inevitably die in the riot. General: What better to use as bait than fresh meat? Zuko: You can't sacrifice an entire division like that! Those soldiers love and defend our nation! How can you betray them!?

Robert Collard

The funny thing about your post is that what you brought up is going to be mentioned in the next episode from an unlikely person.

Iain McDonald

I have to disagree that Luthen is a net negative. As terrible as it is to say it, Ghorman was a victory for both the Empire and the Rebellion. The Empire got what they wanted and spun the story too, but the Rebellion would use the massacre of Ghorman as a rallying cry, as more and more people see what exactly the Empire is willing to do to get what they want. Ghorman did "burn very brightly".

The Emperor Moth

Syril always believed he was on the side of good, that he was promoting order and justice. But when confronted, with hard facts, that his Empire was sowing chaos and discord while stealing from the galaxy, he attacked the woman he genuinely loved, who was one of the architects of the horror he was witnessing. The only way he could cope with the massacre was focusing on Cassian who. in his mind at that moment, ruined his life and is responsible for bringing him there. But then Cassian asks "Who are you?" And in that moment, Syril realizes he isn't a force for justice or order. He realizes, he doesn't have an answer to who he is. It would probably take years for him to find just what he stands for in the galaxy. And then he dies, at the hands of the person he hurt just an hour ago.

The Emperor Moth

Koma: Tell these cl***as to get up! Damn Koma

Egregore

What has Syril done at any point to prove that he’s a good person? Have we ever even seen him do a single nice thing for someone WITHOUT expecting something in return? Also he objectively did care about awards and accolades as the entire reason he served the Empire was because he desperately wants the recognition of authority figures and to be seen as a hero.

Cameron Meow

The empire has always been based on the United States and this shit is exactly what they do over seas

Adam

Also been based on Nazi Germany. Just pointing that out. And modern-day Russia. Who did/do it to their own people.

ACVIFOR

Yeah. The stormtroopers were modeled after Nazi Germany shock troops.

Valter Fara

The uniforms, the weapons, the attitude, it's all based on WW2 Germany. Just not as extreme.

Mister Taffy

That's not the whole truth. Yes, he wants validation, but he is also a man that stands on principles, and the law. (Even if that law is unjust) he saw the Empire as being the keeper of said Law, only to realize too late that the empire doesn't care about justice or the law, only what benefits itself.

Mister Taffy

Honestly what I love about this, is that it shows another side of the Empire's evil, not with space wizards, or super weapons, but with control and manipulation. A know there are a lot of star wars fans that just want to consume the space battles and lightsaber fights, but I love this part of the story telling. The empire didn't conquer the galaxy by outright being evil at the start, they slowly worked to increase their influence before choking the galaxy in complete tyranny. (Seen in a new hope)

Adam

Eh, there are some that're as extremely. Ghorman was a Human world. You DON'T wanna know how bad Imps are to non-humans (pretty consistent Genocides unless the species is deemed "useful")

Egregore

Billions more*

Phantom Penance

Safer to say millions. Death Star only blew up Alderaan, and Ghorman itself—a prestigious planet—only housed a few thousands

Julio Castillo

"He's a Messenger, there's some place he needs to be" Wouldn't that place be a Beach Planet, hugging a cakep-up baddie while a huge explosion is approaching them?...... No? ok, just a guess.

Julian Holcroft

just a quick suggestion it is supper hard to here the show or movies audio in some of these, i would suggest doing some kind of audio normalization on the the source for the movie and on the talking side of things. I have seen it done cant remember the exact way but there is something you can turn on in OBS settings for the source that will boost audio if it is to quite and lower it if it is to loud.

Adam

You're saying "Only" about PLANETS. Alderaan per lore has a population of TWO BILLION Sapients. Ghorman per lore has a population of 800,000 Sapients. And that's JUST the Sapients. Not including the unique life to each world, which did number in the billions if not greater, like the Thranta. There's no "safer to say." It was at *minimum* Billions.

Curtis Murphy

My God your takes on Vel were weird and way too filled with hate FOR NO REASON. You are in the VAST minority when it comes to her. You just fundamentally misunderstand the character

Swan Ronson

They literally explain their reasons at 32:05 as clearly as humanly possible. If you don't agree that's fine, but not understanding is you just choosing not to listen at this point.