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Rx1867

The first half of Hawkeye is fun. The second half is so much better. Hailee Steinfield and Florence Pugh are both incredible at what they do, and it turns out putting them in front of a camera together sparks joy.

Joey245

Triple feature?! We are not worthy! Looking forward to watching this during the rest of my shift!

Smashguy

Wandavision is on a diff

StorytellerDave

This show is just pure dumb fun and I love it. Yelena is also such a gem, she will hopefully get more roles in future movies cuz she's awesome.

EDWin qaz

React to the new superman movie it just came out today

ethxn.02

ok give it time jeez😂

Fenronin (Dorian Dubourg)

have not seen this one so it's cool, hope she watch the tv shows are goes with daredevil too (Luke cage, Iron fist and Jessica Jones) then the defenders where they team up

RF

Nah, he killed her dad. She deserves to take his life. I don't think the people who want him dead are lining up based on fan likability.

DrakeNoAubrey

the hawkeye slander is low key crazy

M

And we'll never see Kingpin again

Khalzone

Thumbnail is pure perfection lmao Thank you for the binge, Alicia!

nervouspirate

Nope, Maya straight up killed him out of frame, and there’s zero way he comes back resembling any American political figures, no way in hell

Vincent Price

I laughed my ass off when Alicia was impressed and excited about the magnet arrow taking all the guns away and a minute later complaining that the bad guys didn't have any guns. Memory of a ducking goldfish 🐠

Beryl Strifeclaw

I have watched this every Christmas since it came out. Along with the Grinch, Nightmare Before Christmas, Rudolph, and Die Hard. Its not the best MCU project, but I love it all the same even more so than the Guardians special...though that one is fun. XD

Cabo Boose

Honestly I liked this more than wandavision but less than Loki - also I’m more forgiving of how Kingpin was used in this show

mld-Drake

i could watch an entire season of just Yelena and Kate at the table. they were so freaking great

Devul

The backseat writing and directing at the end ICANT. the show was about Clint and Kate thats all. Enjoyed your reaction tho keep being you lol

DrakeNoAubrey

I think Alicia was high this reaction but yes kingpin definetely got shot off screen' right into the chest and his son is now the kingpin

I'm following way too many nsfw accounts to use a name here (edited)

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2026-10-07 07:00 I do want to correct one thing about Jack. He is lazy in basically everything except his sword practice, but he isn't a gold digger, he is rich. He just has gold. Marrying Eleanor was just something he wanted to do, because he liked her. Granted, he wasn't going to work regardless, because he is quite literally spoiled rich, but he wasn't marrying for money. Even earlier in ep 1 when he was talking about inheriting money, he was being a dick to his rich and old uncle whose money he was spending, not Eleanor's.
2025-08-15 18:31 I do want to correct one thing about Jack. He is lazy in basically everything except his sword practice, but he isn't a gold digger, he is rich. He just has gold. Marrying Eleanor was just something he wanted to do, because he liked her. Granted, he wasn't going to work regardless, because he is quite literally spoiled rich, but he wasn't marrying for money. Even earlier in ep 1 when he was talking about inheriting money, he was being a dick to his rich and old uncle whose money he was spending, not Eleanor's. And mafia DID have guns. Clint started the fight by sticking them to the flag poles. Aluminium bats on the other hand aren't magnetic.

I do want to correct one thing about Jack. He is lazy in basically everything except his sword practice, but he isn't a gold digger, he is rich. He just has gold. Marrying Eleanor was just something he wanted to do, because he liked her. Granted, he wasn't going to work regardless, because he is quite literally spoiled rich, but he wasn't marrying for money. Even earlier in ep 1 when he was talking about inheriting money, he was being a dick to his rich and old uncle whose money he was spending, not Eleanor's. And mafia DID have guns. Clint started the fight by sticking them to the flag poles. Aluminium bats on the other hand aren't magnetic.

Kalean

Natasha sacrificed herself ***FOR*** Yelena.

Joey245

Alicia popping off on the mom was soooo satisfying the whole way through

Loki (not that one)

Don't worry! Yelena is the main character of Thunderbolts* so you'll see more of her!

YukoValis

I was in the stream and it was funny how people were trying to emote electric objects to try and remind you Hawkeye took all their guns away using electricity.

LegitPotatoes

Jack isn't a golddigger, he's old money rich. I believe His conversation with Armond during the auction was about him inheriting money from Armond not the Bishops.

YukoValis

I would chastise you for spoilers if any of that was true. Well besides the "shot offscreen" thing.

The Lazy Gamer

She went right into Daredevil Season 2, so it's unclear if she's doing the rest. With Jessica coming back the rest might be added cause if you're getting Jessica, might as well get the rest.

Dude559

Great to see that Alicia IMMEDIATELY forgot that Hawkeye magnetized the guns XD

Mune_Lite

i'm curious if you've ever thought abt reacting To Epic The musical? It's so good and i think you would enjoy it

I'm following way too many nsfw accounts to use a name here

Maya scene is from the comics, it's almost 1 to 1 and really well done. And Kingpin didn't get beaten 3 times, he got beaten once and it's by standing on top of several grenades.😂 Everything else he was shrugging off like it was nothing. I wanted more Yelena as well, she got in way too late and didn't stay for long enough. I just love her, the best post endgame new character by this point. She should have been the B-plot, OR AT LEAST replace the damn LARPER STORY with Yelena! I liked the LARPers, but I'd make the swap in an instant, no hesitation.

Bowman C.

I think Jack the potential stepdad was saying he would inherit the money from Armand III or whatever his name was. Not the wife.

Aerowind

So in the comics Kate Bishop is just flat out the second Hawkeye. They're kind of setting up her and Yelena as the new Hawkeye and Black Widow here. Also key thing to know about superhero stuff, if a death doesn't happen on screen then it didn't happen. I haven't watched anything past End Game except what you have so I might be talking out my ass, but I highly doubt that Kingpin died there.

PandaBH

I like how Alicia was like they don’t have guns in NY when there’s the scene with the magnet arrow taking all the guns.

Dude559

my headcanon is that Fisk still survived this. cuzz that's some bullshit

Shino302

Have you watched Echo or Daredevil Born Again?

MMDXXX

Are we watching Deadpool & Wolverine today? (We kinda missed an X-Men Friday last week)

Cosmyc

You're gonna LOVE Thunderbolts*

Kyutoko

Yeah... never... ever... ever... ever... Too on the nose? Too bad, I aint postin no spoilers, figure out the reference on ya own.

DeVaunBeats (edited)

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2026-10-07 07:00 Lol Jack is not a gold digger. He's filthy rich. He wasn't marrying Kate's mother because he wanted her money, he just genuinely loved her. He's just a dork who loves swords. Not a malicious bone in his body.
2025-08-15 19:43 Lol Jack is not a gold digger. He's filthy rich. He wasn't marrying Kate's mother because he wanted her money, he just genuinely loved her. He's just a dork who loves swords. Not a malicious bone in his body. Funnily enough Jack WAS a villain in the comics. They really leaned into making him suspicious in the show because of that lol.

Lol Jack is not a gold digger. He's filthy rich. He wasn't marrying Kate's mother because he wanted her money, he just genuinely loved her. He's just a dork who loves swords. Not a malicious bone in his body. Funnily enough Jack WAS a villain in the comics. They really leaned into making him suspicious in the show because of that lol.

YukoValis

Isn't that a MCU movie? Sadly she has a few left before that, and even worse imo some terrible ones.

MMDXXX

Technically yes, but it's also essentially the conclusion to the Fox X-Men universe/timeline. Also Alicia has already seen the Loki series, which is pretty much the only MCU entry she really needed to see before going into Deadpool & Wolverine. She doesn't really need to see anything else beforehand.

Fuse

You should watch Echo because it follows Maya and what she does after this and the consequences of her actions in that final scene which I won’t say more about

Grandmasta

you that profile name though, wtf

drake

LMAO big fight sequence Hawkeye, takes away everyones guns at the very beginning of the fight half way through the fight alicia being adorably forgetful: "this is new york and you are telling me none of these motherfuckers have guns" i fucking love alicia man LOL

Hexx Gear

I haven't seen new daredevil devil series. But the fact it pans off of king pin and you don't see it tells me this is a creative outing. Meaning we don't know if we will bring Fisk back so he ether died here or he will survive or etc in the next showing

Vlastik Cadra

Its shields logo on the back on that watch.

drake

okay i finished the epsiode....ima say it....kingpin is fine.....he probably wakes up in a couple of hours and spits out the bullet if we are being honest with ourselves here

Bowman C.

The Echo character is so blatantly because they wanted a double disabled character. I mean on the one hand it’s good to portray these kind of characters but at this point, they are just doing a disservice to them. Like how the little mermaid or was it the Snow White movie made Chinese viewers say all black women are ugly if this is their best… might have been both.

Joey245

Yeahhhhh...the fakeout of Maya "killing" Fisk is the only real problem I have with this show. I think it was done to promote the Echo show that comes later? Either way, it's a bizarre choice, and I'm glad it was REMOVED FOR SPOILERS!

Joey245

OMG that Christmas Eve story is amazing, adorable, and hilarious lol

YukoValis

Fun callback reference when Yelena says she wanted to see the new and improved statue of liberty. Since the original was destroyed in the last spiderman movie No Way home.

DrakeNoAubrey

i was joking i wouldnt say actually happens

ChaosSepher

I think point was it was being renovated to having a Captain America shield until Spider-M(e)n broke that.

ChaosSepher

You aware that is specifically something that happens in the comic books?

terrell thaddies

It wasn't "undone". It never was. Everything about Maya, her backstory, and the relationship she has with Kingpin down to shooting his eye out, is directly from the Daredevil comics where she was 1st introduced All that this show did, is replaced Daredevil with Hawkeye. And instead of framing Daredevil for the murder of Maya's dad, it was Clint that did it and was tipped off by Kingpin Kingpin survived just like in the comics. There's a whole alternative ending scene where it shows u that he survived in Hawkeye. He was always coming back cuz that's what happened in the comics. He went through eye surgery in the comics. He did the same thing in Echo when we saw him again

Greyman20

I hope you are ready for Moon Knight 🌙

Joey245

Oh, for real? Did not know that, actually. Thanks for pointing it out!

Joey245

Ohhhhh! Thanks for clarifying, genuinely did not know that before. Interesting!

Kykywox

why would you spoil that

Lists Lido

well its not a spoiler i never said who she just has to find out

Kykywox

AND the wondering where the explosion in the building came from when he OBVIOUSLY set explosives before the battle; AND the rant about guns in New York literal minutes after noticing out loud the magnetic arrow taking away all the guns; AND blaming Jack for being a gold-digger despite no indication to that ever; I think Alicia is such a great reactor, usually so smart and attentive that when she messes up it feels so out of character for her that it's especially frustrating for us.

terrell thaddies

Anytime. In the comics, Maya and Matt were lovers. They didn't know that he was Daredevil and Maya works for Kingpin. So when her dad was murdered, she was ordered to kill Daredevil by Kingpin. I wanna say that Matt figured out the real killer and had his mask taken off to get Maya to understand. And that leads to the confrontation that u saw with Maya and Kingpin at the end of the show. Damn near shot to shot of what happened in that comic panel

Kykywox

It's literally one of the best MCU shows like easy top 3 it was really grating to hear Alicia shit so hard on it while at the same time missing obvious things happening on screen. She's usually so much better than it and it hurt especially hard because of how much I love this show.

YukoValis

Which is what I said. It was destroyed originally in the spiderman movie.

Sniper Delta

It absolutely is a spoiler regardless of whether you said who or not. Even just saying (spoiler that i have now edited out) is a spoiler. Delete the comment man, please.

DeVaunBeats

Look we all love Kingpin but focusing on that instead of the show about Hawkeye is disappointing. Also I feel like anyone would realize at this point in comics if you don't see a body, they aren't dead.

Kykywox

Because it's popular to jump on the hate bandwagon, like Linkin Park or Aquaman.

LessMiserable

Also when Alicia says that kingpin is a big game guy I swear I thought she said big gay guy and in his little Hawaiian shirt that shit made me wheeze

Kykywox

I'd even say Highkey disrespectful.

BartonBelladonna

snooze fest, Alicia? snooze fest? sheesh girl, just say you don't like it.

Lists Lido

alright i will delete it

FujiKhan

Natasha went 3/3 against Clint - first in Avengers, second in Civil War, and third in Endgame; she won their fights every time.

Sniper Delta

I really hope we get a Moon Knight reaction soon! No actual rush on Alicia, im just excited! Alicia will either LOVE it and cry a LOT, or she will absolutely hate it (mostly due to her psychology knowledge if she thinks things aren't represented well)

Mr. Ewok

I get what you mean with this show. It was my second favorite with all the shows they made, Wanda being #1, but they definitely did Kingpin dirty here.

Curtis Murphy

How is Kingpin no diffing getting hit by a car and walking off from an explosion with basically just a limp doing him dirty?

Thighable

What’s the next series after Hawkeye?

terrell thaddies

Release date wise, Moon Knight. But I really hope that she goes back to watch The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

terrell thaddies

Please do The Falcon and the Winter Soldier next

Sam Marsh

Admittedly, when I first watched this I hadn’t seen the Daredevil Netflix series, so I was unfamiliar with this iteration of the Kingpin. I finally watched all three season, and now Kingpin is one of my favourite villains in the MCU. For a man with no super powers, he seems almost inhuman with the way he can toss people around like rag dolls and walk away after being hit by a car and explosive arrows, so I don’t think anyone can doubt he can survive a gun!

Phantom Penance

Wow. Yelena really does light up every room she’s in. Just makes it better

Kykywox

He's literally the most powerful and comic accurate version we've seen. Dude brushed up arrows, speeding cars, explosions and a gunshot to the head. He also ripped a car door clean off. This is a GREAT depiction of Kingpin!

Matthew Newton

She will. She's gonna watch it before the new Captain America movie. And Ms Marvel before The Marvels

Matthew Newton

You may want to delete this as it is considered a spoiler. She'll ban you from here if she sees it haha

ChaosSepher

She plans on watching Moon Knight eventually but will be pushed back as isn't "required watching" for any Marvel films thus far.

ChaosSepher

She plans on watching Moon Knight eventually but will be pushed back as isn't "required watching" for any Marvel films thus far.

Gustaf Hillertz

the "why am i still watching?" was so real and personal

PandaBH

I’m remembering watching this show when it released and there was a theory that Spider-Man would show up in the finale because of NWH final scene and where they were fighting.

random gamer

Before caling something garbage maybe wait until they fully show if fisk is "dead" awful fucking take

Michael

I think you have the wrong idea about Jack, he wasn’t gold digging Kate’s mother, when he said he’ll “inherit the money someday” he was referring to his uncle, who he was talking to, dying. He’s already from a rich ass family.

Joey245

Did not know that, removed the spoiler bit

Tomatoisjp

First: Binge. Second: The only thing Hawkeye kiiiiiiinda spoils for Daredevil (it is set before Born Again so it's only the Netflix series it COULD spoil) was already spoiled by the time you were asking. Kingpin is still around, spoiler.

Tomatoisjp

Oh, also, since it's not a spoiler anymore: The reason we don't see Kingpin until end of 5: Episode 5 of Hawkeye aired the same week (Wed/Thurs IIRC) as Spider-Man No Way Home premiered in the states. Kingpin showed up in Hawkeye, Matt showed up in Spider-Man. It was Marvel definitively saying "we have these characters back now, they're being folded into the MCU". Revealing Kingpin any earlier would have lessened the impact of Matt's cameo in Spider-Man. That said, the series isn't as good, but Kingpin has a much bigger role in Echo if you want to watch it for that. TBC, Echo isn't AS BAD as some people make it out, but it's still pretty middling.

Michael

I’m usually on your side for these things but Echo isn’t an example of this. Echo is like that in the comics and they clearly just wanted a Daredevil tie in so they brought in two Daredevil characters in Fisk and Echo.

Cardboard

I mean It's implied he's dead. If the show wanted you to know he lived, they would've showed proof of life. So i don't think it's unreasonable to be mad about it without having more knowledge and/or context.

Michael

I love this show, easily the 2nd best Marvel show after Loki. 5.5/10 is crazy, this should at least be a 7/10.

random gamer

there is being mad and then being a ass and saying the whole show is fucking garbage because one thing pissed u off

Shoopdawoop

hey lets be fair to mah boy hawkeye. he was supposed to be the one to make the jump but natasha got the better of him. so yes he did save the world by proxy and technicality.

ThatoneGuyoverThere33

Am I misremembering, is Jack a Gold digger? I thought he was a rich guy marrying his level?

Tomatoisjp

Just finished: IN FAIRNESS. Echo (that's Maya fyi)'s one big claim to fame in the comics was shooting Wilson Fisk in the face, to the point where everyone knew that shit was gonna happen, (and, spoilers, that he'd survive it). So rather than have that "when's she going to shoot Wilson Fisk in the face?" shit hanging over the Echo series, the Hawkeye showrunners just got it out of the way.

Matthew Newton

No, she has a point. One bad thing about a show can really, REALLY leave a sour taste in your mouth. I want to give examples but it'd be spoilers for other series Alicia is/will watch

random gamer

This is not bad if u read the comics this is exactly what happens in them she shoots him just say u dont like the show at this point

Joseph Trujillo

I was Wondering if you can react to Wednesday

PokéBoyBB

Don't worry Alicia, I doubt they'd kill of Kingpin like that. He's a very important character that ties to a lot of heroes and villains. We also didn't see him actually get shot. If we don't see him die, he's not dead. I'm sure he'll be back in the future. Probably in the new Spider-Man movie? Or DD: Born Again. I haven't watched it so I'm not sure if he appears there but probably.

Mario Lenger

We saw lokis dead body two times and he is still around

Bologna Amputation

Jack is what happens when you plunk Gomez Addams into a non-Addams family story.

Bologna Amputation

Come for the Hawkeye, stay for Alicia obliterating her nieces and nephews for 20 amazing minutes

Bologna Amputation

I keep forgetting how absurdly pretty Clint's wife is.

Vectoris

2:27:50 I mean, he's literally on the poster for DDBA, so... (not spoilers btw)

GingerBardMan (edited)

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2026-10-07 07:00 Kingpin is not dead, there is no way you believe that when they deliberately fade out when Maya takes the shot. There is no way he dies in spinoff series, it's going to be Daredevil or Punisher who takes him out if anyone.
2025-08-16 03:54 Kingpin is not dead, there is no way you believe that when they deliberately cut away when Maya takes the shot. There is no way he dies in spinoff series, it's going to be Daredevil or Punisher who takes him out if anyone.

Kingpin is not dead, there is no way you believe that when they deliberately cut away when Maya takes the shot. There is no way he dies in spinoff series, it's going to be Daredevil or Punisher who takes him out if anyone.

nervouspirate

It’s not subtle but I just wanna note for those that don’t catch it that the last line of the last episode is a reveal that the titular character of Hawkeye was not Clint. Kate Bishop is Hawkeye.

nervouspirate

The opening credits is all about her.

Gai Valentine

Oh boy I guess you gotta start binging more Daredevil to see more of Fisk and increase the frequency of Marvel movies to get to Thunderbolts.

Cassandra

Jack had run out of money according to the conversation he had with Armand III at the black market auction. But he was set to inherit Armand III's money when he died, that's why he was so easy to frame. It was Ellenor who was a gold digger because if her husband inherited the money and then was sent to jail for murder, she would the one to get all the money.

Cassandra

I understand where you're coming from about Maya but they had to use this series to introduce her before her solo series Echo.

EnderSlayer366

Alicia mishearing Jack one time (about getting Armand's inheritance because he's old, not Eleanor's) and basing his entire character off of it and Alicia being really impressed by the magnet arrows taking everyone's guns and disarming all the thugs in the final battle only to then comment on the fact it's a little weird for all the thugs to not have guns is CRAZY WORK LMAO on an unrelated note i fuck with the 3 episode binge format heavy

Daisy Azuras

Alicia pretty much hit a lot of the spot on points with us. They did restrict money on the series. That’s why you couldn’t get the big characters in. That’s also why there’s no season two because basically the guy that plays Hawkeye got low bald and he’s like no I ain’t doing another series if you’re not paying me so no season two for Hawkeye at least not with Clint Barton as for Maya a.k.a. echo she’ll show up again she’s like a main character. I heard a rumor that she’s supposed to have her own series and as usual if you don’t see a body no one‘s dead because that’s just how Marvel works. Either way I still like this series, although I did originally watch it during Christmas time which made it very, very much more enjoyable. I don’t know why it just did, but I was also kind of upset that they used Fisk in such a bit role. They should’ve had like one of his lieutenants or something as the guy at the end and then have The revealed that Fisk was behind everything that way they could lead up to him Later but yeah I don’t know I’m I’m not a writer really and I don’t know much about the comics at least not these particular comics either way still fun show. I enjoyed it.

EnderSlayer366

maya already got her own series and it is in fact called echo full disclosure i never watched daredevil or any of the netflix shows for that matter but i never really took issue with kingpin in this show, especially considering the knowledge of related comic plotlines involving him

Cyber

the alciia rollercoster of emotions in this session LOL

Y0GE

Don't forget the actor for Hawkeye got into an accident and he felt Disney were taking the piss offering to pay him less as if he was less of an actor because of the car accident

Purist

If you're interested in learning more about SHIELD, there's Agents of SHIELD. First Netflix Marvel series, before Daredevil. It's a decent ride, also decently written. It connects with the movies as well, starts after the first Avengers. Stars Ming Na Wen (aka Mulan). Highly recommended.

Noxar Void

She planned to watch the Daredevil movie and the Blade movie(s) first

ThatoneGuyoverThere33

I don't think she is a gold digger, she ran her own Security Firm so should be independently wealthy and her framing Jack "Just had to happen".

Matt O'Doherty

all the mentions of "the big guy" the used car lot called fat man used cars. you even hear his voice in mayas flashback about her "uncle" im surprised you didnt piece it together quicker :)

carlos sebastian paredes infante

i didnt even notice you use subtitles even thought you speak english because i do that too in my native toung hahaha (i was like, i dint even know patreon had subtitles)

ChaosSepher

It's the player's subtitles in this case Disney+

Bowman C.

Echo did not become a daredevil character until this show and the subsequent Echo show.

Vivica the witch

So many people critiqued Kingpins outfit without realizing it is a 1 for 1 recreation of comic outfit.

daverboy

You don't need to worry about this spoiling Daredevil. Up until Born Again, the netflix shows weren't considered canon to the MCU, they just REALLY liked Vincent D'Onofrio and Charlie Cox, so they re-cast them. Originally Disney+ Daredevil was planned to be a sort of soft reboot, and I think at the time this came out we didn't even know about that yet. Also, saving Kingpin for the finale was because they hadn't actually revealed yet that they were casting him as Kingpin again, though those of us who were watching week to week had started to guess online ever since that shot of young Maya with her "uncle", hearing his voice but not seeing his face, and Clint making references to the "Big guy".

Vivica the witch

I didnt see any body or him get shot. If its not on screen it didnt happen.

Chamoun101

If you follow Squad Game logic, then yes.

Vivica the witch

Oh thats comics logic my friend. And sometimes even when you see the body, that was a clone you see spiderman is actually alive over here.

Chamoun101

If Alicia wants her joy for musicals back, then she should watch Epic: The Musical.

daverboy

Fun thing about Jack. In the comics, Jacques Duquesne *is* a bad guy (at least originally, he's one of those characters who's flip-flopped over the decades) known as The Swordsman. He's also the guy in the comics who taught Hawkeye how to sword fight, and was one of his main antagonists when Hawkeye first became a good guy. Which means for the comic fans, they introduce Jack right away, make it clear that he's skilled swordsman, and make him *super super suspicious* as a giant red herring, only to then reveal that he was never evil, he was just a rich weirdo who really likes swords, and I LOVE it

Ezekiel Mendez

Ain’t no way you didn’t like the black widow movie but at the end it shows Natasha’s sister being hired to kill Hawkeye

CrazyChameleon

Man .. I really wanna see Guardians 3 XD

Ashcroft Production-House

hawkeye and the 'echo' series both play a little bit into 'Born Again' yes. I hope that comment is not against any rules.

PandaBH

If Alicia didn’t really find Hawkeye exciting I don’t think she will really like/ care for the echo series.

Ashcroft Production-House

oh I agree I was just saying the shows that involve the characters from born again in some major way just so she is aware but really the crossover is minimal.

Spacefrog

This really sets up Yelena and Kate to be the new black widow and hawkeye and I am here for it. The two really have a fun back and forth and I could easily see them being quick besties

Magikltrevr

So many of the characters in this are such absolute dorks and I love them for it.

Ashcroft Production-House

I know the show did not build it up right but in the comics maya shooting kingpin through the eye was a VERY BIG DEAL.

Silver Blade

1:34:20 ... damn, that's EXTRA stupid... she thinks it's her protection but she basically drew a gun on him....

Yaboi7117

Echo definitely is more about Maya and her development into a semi interesting Native American woman, just with their cultural ties and urban legend.

Yaboi7117

There’s always a bit of intention in the characters, I like how subtle it was with Jack holding Clint at sword point with Clint’s own sword.

nezo

It's not implied he's dead. I honestly think this isn't the proper watch order for her, because anyone familiar with Kingpin would know that's not killing him. And even in terms of what the 'Hawkeye' show actually did, not showing the "death" is intentionally obscuring what happened for the viewer. This gives them leeway to bring back the character if they want to by saying "technically you didn't see the death :nerd_emoji:", and then explain off how they survived. Shows do that all the time. It's not the first to do this, and is certainly not the last. I could point out examples from popular media but that'd be spoilers for things she may watch.

random gamer

i know he aint dead as a comic reader and have watched the show

nezo

She had to be high this binge man LMFAO. Okay; Jack isn't a gold digger. He's rich as hell and wanted to marry Kate's mom because he loved her. He also wanted to get rid of the shady people Kate's mom was indebted to. He's only viewed as a "bad guy" in the first 3 eps because Kate is biased against him and her mom used him as a scapegoat in ep 3 or 4. Yelena was shown to have a mission to kill Clint Barton in Black Widow, but she didn't like that movie so maybe she just erased it from her mind. Kate's mom threatening Kingpin was a desperate last resort. I wouldn't really call it stupid, since in her mind the results were either her daughter is killed, Kingpin agrees to stop, or Kate and her mother both die. She was aware Kingpin's thugs were targeting Kate and Clint, and that Kate was following Clint because she idolized him and wanted to do right by him. If Kingpin had just said he's not going to target Kate anymore, she'd have no reason to keep going. As Kingpin said, Kate's mom continued working with him initially because it was lucrative. So her options were to either convince Kate to stop working with Clint, stop Kingpin from targeting Kate (releasing the info), or force Clint to stop working with Kate (killing him). I also don't get why she was so biased against Kate's mom. Like I get she's technically a bad guy, but Alicia scrutinized every decision she made. She said it was fucked up to bring up Natasha, but that's exactly what Clint is thinking throughout most of the show even without her saying it. She's absolutely right to say it since its concerning her daughter's safety. Even if Clint's right in that Kate is talented enough to be a superhero, it's still irresponsible of him to bring her along. He's aware of it, but he still convinced by circumstance or convenience to bring Kate along. So of course her Mom is mad. Hawkeye got rid of the guns with the manget trick arrow. Alicia commented on the magnet, and it caused the thugs to rush Kate and Clint physically, then Alicia complained that it was unrealistic for the lack of guns. Must have dissociated. She was sus of Jack the whole show, and that's understandable for the first few episodes, but after 5 she checked out and just hated him for no reason lmfao. They said Clint's wife's watch belonged to "someone retired who used to work with him" and that it would expose their identity because their name was written on the front. Think it was in ep 4. This is means Clint's wife was an agent of shield. Kingpin being shot doesn't mean he's dead. Like, this can't be the first time people have seen an intentionally obscured gunshot in media. Most people's first reaction (from what I remember when Hawkeye came out) was that the next series was about Kingpin since that scene didn't show what happened. No one cared about the gunshot because it's Kingpin and they didn't show it. Literally the first reaction I've seen where someone thought he was dead.

MMDXXX

When did she say that?

Fuupto

It’s possible to like certain parts or characters in a movie while not liking the movie itself overall

Joshua Coffin

Awwww, but I love Jack! I don't think he's gold-digging. He's just dancing through life! Edit: I absolutely love musicals, but man, that song is why people think they hate musicals

ichigo

It's incredible how judgmental she can be, weirdly enough it's usually towards male characters.

Shadowsofpain

I also dont think his inheritance line was in reference to the mom, but rather a jab at Arrmand due to him being old.

Rowdeemunkee

Marvel these days feels like a bag of trail mix that everyone's been picking the M&Ms and nuts out of all day. Every now and then you'll get a handful with some good stuff in it, but it's mostly just raisins and pretzels.

Everythingiscanon

Between this and Joker 2, we really got keep Alicia away from musicals for a while.

Rowdeemunkee

I love the sister vibes Yelana and Kate have in this and hope we will see more of it in the future.

ChaosSepher

Hell no, we need to show her *good* musicals! Personally I would suggest Little Shop of Horrors.

ACVIFOR

Yes, seconded. I just saw Little Shop of Horrors on broadway last week with my family and it was great!

YukoValis

So I don't know what happens with the Kingpin and I don't want to know. People who spoil things are the worst kind of people. I had a vision of how I would do that ending and I wanted to share it. So Kingpin is walking down the alley before Maya pulls around and stops to get out. She confronts the Kingpin and then starts shooting him. You see the shooting from just behind Kingpin and get worried he might be killed. Then it cuts to his just standing there and looking at her like "You get it out of your system?" She flips him off and drives away. Kingpin continues to walk down the alleyway sighing and saying something akin to "what a night.." Now I know Kingpin isn't bulletproof, but he does often have armor on. So that might explain why it wouldn't phase him.

Nami

Preachhh. The kingpin shit missed me off the most. Like bro everyone that's watched any type of cinema for a long time should know the age old rule of 'no body no death'. On top of that she knowsss who he is and how he works, she literally went on one of her rants about how much dmg he can easily take. And then just forgets all that and whines about something she should already know the answer to. Then lets her own head cannon distract her from the rest of the show she was just enjoying and randomly shits on it because she chose not to understand. Like there's nooo way 😂

Nami

That's just basic cinema knowledge lol

Lance Ivy

its cause hes "fat" soft spoken and well dressed they think him soft and laxy

Kevin Bartelen

I mean... not that I want to spoil anything, but if you've seen ANY of the Daredevil Reborn trailers then you know Fisk is still around, somehow.

Spicy Noodles

Alicia fell for the red hearings the whole show like a rat to cheese. i mean ep 1 I felt the full on SOLID RED DRESS was a big ass give away that women was corrupt. who the hell wears something like that o a Christmas fundraiser? throw some white in there for crying out loud. a Christmas hat even. Villainous ass fashion taste.

Dorran

I'll agree that this isn't on the same level as Loki or Wandavision, but it is still one of the fun MCU shows ^_^ It is just... Hawkeye getting to be Hawkdad, and that might not be a movie in its own right, but it makes for a good show.

StorytellerDave

The symbol on the watch is the SHIELD symbol, Clint's wife was a shield agent in the past. Clint had to get the watch back because it could have blown her cover. That's probably how Maya found out about Clint's family too. Kate finds a note in Maya's apartment with the names of Clints kids and the watch nearby.

Switchchris27

Clint's wife is Agent 19, aka Huntress or Mockingbird depending on the comic series.

Memento Forever

Alicia is a real powerscaler, I notice how she analyzes why certain characters aren't dominating others and understanding that their sandbagging and not just bad writing.

Samuel Brewer

STILL not a fan of the eating/chewing into the mic. It’s disgusting. Most of the rest of the reaction is good but don’t get how Alicia was complaining about the tracksuit mafia didn’t have guns when just a few mins before she got so excited about the electromagnet arrows, that worked on the poles around the ice rink, taking the guns away from them. With Fisk, you should use the rule of if you don’t see it.

Not Six Raccoons in a Trench Coat

2:46:50, There actually is an Avengers musical by a christian youth pastor group. Jenny Nicholson did a video about them.

AnonDex

This show could have been even better if they didn't decide to make hawkeye show be trailer or buildup for echo and other shows instead of focusing only on this

Hellguin

Florence Pugh is just so damn good as Yelena. I want a series with just her.

next_gen17

I love the final song

Fenronin (Dorian Dubourg)

Black widow was unironically on the good half of the marvel movies 10 times better than black panther 2 and 100 times than captain marvel

Fenronin (Dorian Dubourg)

I don't Jack married for the money i'm pretty sure he was talking about the inheritance from his family