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Emeradis

Breast milk would be vegan as long as the person you got it from was consenting, animal products can't be vegan because animals are incapable of consent.

Zachary McCann

For the Vegan convo, I feel like it breaks down to a lexical question and then a social question: A person may choose to engage in a vegan diet for ethical or social reasons, but the item itself is still bound by the lexical determination of vegan. So since human breast milk is derived from a an animal, then much like cow milk it would not be vegan. However, someone who chooses a vegan lifestyle for ethical reasons such as lack of consent or treatment of the animals may choose to give it a pass because the person they sourced it from consented and is treated well. In that case they may not feel that it violates their lifestyle choice and they will still consider themselves vegan, but the object would still not be vegan.

Martin E Melcher

Found this and sent it to 2 group chats and they both agreed that I am this person as well. So Chelzor, you are not alone 🤣

Bowman C.

If breast milk isn’t vegan. Does biting your lips and ingesting some of that skin and blood also count as non vegan? What if you have an ulcer? What about the natural shedding of your mucus membrane? What about the skin cells in your saliva exchanging when you kiss someone? Those are just the passive ingesting. And of course we can’t forget the active ingesting of bodily discharge during foreplay. Can vegans not give head?

Apofisu

The next logical question is if vegans can swallow when sucking dick

Mad Jacks

I feel like if Alicia met Chelzor sooner, she might also be a bridesmaid.

Gasket

Just because animals can’t talk don’t mean they are incapable of consent. I mean cows literally walk to their milking stations intentionally because it brings them relief and they enjoy it, I doubt that’s not consent

Charlie

Oh cool chelzor

Charlie

Technically honey aswell as bees actively can leave and do with bad beekeepers, they also produce more honey explicitly because theres a beekeeper

Hellguin

If it cannot say yes or no, It cannot provide consent. pretty sure cows go to the stations because food and conditioning.

Sam Smith

40:00 cat and rat bonding is always appreciated. Love this for you guys

Emeradis (edited)

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2026-10-17 00:00 Closer to conditioning and maintenance. The reason milking brings relief is because they are often kept in breeding cycles to produce beef and other milking cows. The reason bees stay for good keepers is better living conditions. They can tell the difference between a solid structure suited to their needs and a crumbling one. Consent, in the way that we experience it, and the way vegans tend to use it, is a concept too complex for most animal brains.
2026-10-16 19:07 Closer to conditioning and maintenance. The reason milking brings relief is because they are often kept in breeding cycles to produce beef and other milking cows. The reason bees stay for good keepers is better living conditions. They can tell the difference between a solid structure suited to their needs and a crumbling one. Consent, in the way that we experience it, and the way vegans tend to use it, is a concept too complex for most animal brains. The big irony is I'm not even vegan, they just argue a lot where I get stoned.

Closer to conditioning and maintenance. The reason milking brings relief is because they are often kept in breeding cycles to produce beef and other milking cows. The reason bees stay for good keepers is better living conditions. They can tell the difference between a solid structure suited to their needs and a crumbling one. Consent, in the way that we experience it, and the way vegans tend to use it, is a concept too complex for most animal brains. The big irony is I'm not even vegan, they just argue a lot where I get stoned.