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UNCUT - Remember (VOY S3E6) | Star Trek Journey 428 (Patreon)

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2026-09-21 18:25:11
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2026-09-24 13:14:10
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Dani

I love this episode! Of course I’m a sucker for romance with a sci-fi twist. Unfortunately the twist is the violations TNG episode. Problematic since consent is vague in the beginning, but it gets there eventually. Great ending. Great B’ Elanna episode!

Summer

Roxanne Dawson is great, this is Trek

Summer

I didn’t leave a take last week, partly because I didn’t want a hundred notifications thatothers left takes, but I like this one, it is one of the best of early season 3

Forbidden Donut

I'll be honest, I'm still not sure if I believe the memories are legit or not. I'm also not sure why Janeway believes they're real; how could she know? Did I miss something?

Better Watch Trek

I would have liked more if B'Elanna got the memory from different persons and every one of them only knew a fragment of the truth, but since she had the whole picture, she could have put it together and expose it. Yeah, maybe to much to fit in 44 minutes. Still liked the episode as it is - first time watch for me

Target Audience

I took it as regardless of whether she is convinced they are real or not, it’s enough of a concern to cancel the trades and shore leave and not ignore it

agatha

personally i find this episode kind of boring, but im glad you guys had a good time and the things you’ve said made me actually think about it more and yeah, it is kind of a step up from this beginning of season 3. It does get better but man, it’s my least favorite start haha

Patric Flück

I really liked this one. Finally a B'Elana episode that isn't wall to wall techno babble. Dawson got to show her range too. From love-struck to outraged, from somber to elated. The best scene is Torres barging in and laying it all out in the open. Chef's kiss!

Prof Moff

To answer the "how do they come up with the names" thing. They did what every role playing gamer did. Looked at a Tolkien book index to find some funky names.

Forbidden Donut

Yeah, but imagine if the culture is innocent and the accusation is false? Seems premature to cancel everything based on... assumptions without conclusive evidence? Reminds me of some form of modern 'cancel culture' stuff, kind of. "Oh, you're accused of something bad, you deny it, and they can't prove it? Sorry, bro, cancelled." I know that's not the only form of it, but it feels like one form of it, you know what I mean?

Forbidden Donut

Also, every time they say the name of these people I keep picturing Inara from Firefly.

Prof Moff

Voyager sex scoreboard A couple of scores after a long dry spell SCOREBOARD Paris 3 Jayneway 3 Chakotay 2 Torres 2 +1 new Harry 2 +1 new Neelix 1 Kes 1 The Doctor 1 GUESTS Dathan +2 Jessen +2 DETAILS Yes Harry scores. Just to remind all, our guidelines is when in doubt they did it. Harry scoring is a pretty clear yes. Had attraction, had opportunity, had game (somehow). Torres score is a little more dicey. Again though, this character did wam bam even though as another character. We have counted that a lot. Picard's got a few of those. Also side note we give a +2 to guest stars because they each slammed a Voyager crew but also at the end together pulled a sex scene from “Scenes from a hat”. Jessen was glad it wasn’t Collin or Ryan, but may have wished it was Wayne Brady.

Philbot

I can never really predict what you guys are gonna like cause some episodes are maybe not Dharmok or the inner light, but I’ll be like “oh I like that one!”and you guys who know??

Summer

So, others will disagree, but I don’t think Roxanne has a bad episode of hers, some one may not like but Roxanne always does great

Some Guy

WARP PARTICLES

Jack Mingle

I will always believe Torres was wrong to interfere, sure a bunch of people had died, ages past. But by upending Enaran society, literally millions more may die, and what? Voyager just drops an ideological nuke on a civilization and keeps on flying? There is no way that they could predict what kind of damage and horror will come from it. I think the messaging works very well, its not one way or the other so much that it preaches or forgets, instead it respects the intelligence of the viewer to know what is right and wrong. The Enarans were in the wrong killing the Regressives (Dangers of othering)

Tim Nikiforovs

Harry scores? No, that's not true! That's IMPOSSIBLE!!!

Jack Mingle

Some kind of _____ That must have _____.

TalynOne

Surprised you guys liked this, it doesn't really involve any of our main cast, even B'lanna isn't herself for most of the episode. Most of the time you guys dismiss any episodes that is guest character heavy. Especially ones where we'll never likely see the characters/story again. I enjoyed this one too.

Sir, This is A Quark's.

This one I like more and more each time. I'm really impressed with the writing of this one and would be curious to read the shooting script. There's a few edits in Act One & Two where it looks like they cut the scenes shorter to have that fourth act just breathe with the final memories. Great guest acting and Roxann Dawson nails the duel charcater. The scar, the satinization balls, the instrument all peppered in so the context is there for when the dreams do the world building. When I was 12 the first time I watched this I don't think I appreciated the nuance. Glad to be an annual member.

paultardspambot .

As far as people knowing, when the US liberated a german town towards the end of the war, there was a story about a mayor and his wife who hung themselves with a note taped around his neck, "We didn't know... but we knew." It was no secret the Nazis were persecuting jews but at the Wansee conference where the orders for the finak solution were given to the department heads, they were aware what they were doing would be considered war crimes based on the WW1 agreements and they were not revealing it publically. The official policy was that the Jews would be deported somewhere, with Madagascar as a frequently mentioned place. The Allies knew at that point, and made a determination to not prioritize stopping it as a war objective.

paultardspambot .

This actually was a leftover TNG script that was originally a Troi episode.

Ryan

I find this episode a little too lethargically paced, and I also think they made the bad guys too over-the-top evil, but I appreciate that this episode was really About Something, and Roxann Dawson kicked all kinds of ass with all the nuances she had to bring to both characters. In a tough season, this is a nice upswing.

Thicketdweller🦊

Earth, wind, and fire time. Do you remember, the 21st night of September? It goes on and on and on.

Loot Narsbaar

Maybe my favorite type of reaction is when you guys love an episode I’m meh on.

Mysticist

I'm not sure there is much more psychotic than tricking your own child to participate in Genocide by saying "How could you believe your family and friends are capable of doing that?"

Paul O'Neal

Okay, so I think that committing genocide is obviously evil AF, but were these Regressives like modern primitives? Anti-vaxxers? Flat Ear - err - Inara-ers? I mean, we don't know the whole story and maybe they *did* mostly wipe themselves out due to Space Polio and catastrophic ignorance or something? But still, it's obvious there's a cover up going on and B'Elanna was right to challenge them. I like the fact that the episode isn't giving us a concrete answer either way, but it does seem like that the Inaran lady's memories were correct. Good, but not great still. And at least it challenges the viewer. I appreciated your guys' take on it.

JoeCensored

It's pretty good, but strangely a season later I challenge you to remember this one.

Nolan (edited)

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2026-09-24 22:00 If I recall correctly, at least outside of Germany, no one knew about the Holocaust until the end of the war, when Allied troops came accross the camps and began liberating them. There's a famous movie made during the war that even has a line like: "Even the Germans can't kill people that fast." as evidence that people didn't know.
2026-09-22 06:27 If I recall correctly, at least outside of Germany, no one knew about the Holocaust until the end of the war, when Allied troops came across the camps and began liberating them. There's a famous movie made during the war that even has a line like: "Even the Germans can't kill people that fast." as evidence that people didn't know.

If I recall correctly, at least outside of Germany, no one knew about the Holocaust until the end of the war, when Allied troops came across the camps and began liberating them. There's a famous movie made during the war that even has a line like: "Even the Germans can't kill people that fast." as evidence that people didn't know.

Laura Thornley

In the wider public knowledge, yes. However, Allied High Command knew something was going on even if they didn't know the full extent of it. There was a group of Polish officers who infiltrated the camps while working in the Resistance before they escaped and made reports back to High Command. They just weren't believed.

Worf and Riker Ride Again

Never seen this one before, and I really enjoyed it. It's not exactly my favourite type of story but it was very well made and Dawson's acting is always great, she really stands out in this. The only thing I had a hard time buying was how B'Elanna / Korenna went from being surprised by the genocide to cheering on seeing her lover being burned at the stake in like 5 minutes. High B for me.

Prof Moff

HARRY GOT GAME!!!.......................... no wait Harry?

Derek Locke

I'm not saying this is wrong... but this is a very strange scoreboard to keep track of!

Derek Locke

I think we're supposed to take it on face value that the visions are legit. I think Janeway believes because essentially she trusts B'Elanna.

paultardspambot .

Wasn't it more of a "oh shit, my people are mass murderers, better not make waves"? Like what undoubtedly happens in real situations like this. I'm sure there were people who were horrified but realized they had to act like a good nazi and she couldnt do anything anyway

paultardspambot .

see my comment above when a german town was captured and the allied soldiers made the townspeople dig graves for the bodies (near Dachau) the mayor and his wife hung themselves and the mayor had a sign around his neck "We didn't know... but we knew." I think it was one of those kind of deals, especially by the end of the war. But yes, it was not acknowledged publically and publically the final solution was to deport all the jews, with Madagascar often listed as a likely final destination. This was before the Genevae convention but international accords after WW1 made it clear what they were doing was a war crime.

David Müller

Since 3x01 was basically a season 2 episode, this one actually *is* 3x05!

Worf and Riker Ride Again

Yeah I suppose it could be, but I think seeing your boyfriend cook in front of you might elicit shock / horror, even if you’re trying to blend in. Plus her dad was denying everything 5 minutes prior. Unless there was a time jump? I don’t know, it’s a 45 minute episode, I appreciate it’s hard to cram everything in and explain it all

Evan Guthrie

We're supposedly in a bad streak and THIS is the episode that's a step in the right direction? Okay then...

Collin Freeman (edited)

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2026-09-24 22:00 Best episode of the season up to now. I basically with comments from both of you. This one gets a B.
2026-09-22 20:13 Best episode of the season up to now. I basically agree with comments from both of you. This one gets a B.

Best episode of the season up to now. I basically agree with comments from both of you. This one gets a B.

Collin Freeman

How about this example: "We're going to push out all of the people who refuse to use AI."

Collin Freeman

The Nazis most definitely did try to cover up the Holocaust, which is why you still find occasional Holocaust-deniers. They were proud of it amongst themselves, but they knew what they were doing was wrong or they would not have tried to cover it up.

Collin Freeman

Reminds me of Violations, which is why they probably did not use it in TNG.

Prof Moff

That is true Derek. But it started 60 years ago. So somebody gotta keep it goin'

Die Raubtiere meines Jahrhunderts

This episode always felt to me like a solid science fiction script with somewhat supernatural elements, that was re-shaped to fit the Star Trek mold. Which is OK and happened before. The story is maybe a little contrived and convoluted, but this time around, I didn't mind that. I do find it somewhat reductive to think, that this episode is about the "Holocaust" and the Germans and what they knew. It is a motif that appeared in SciFi long before the Third Reich. For example "The House of a Thousand Floors" by the Czech writer Jan Weiss from 1929 describes a dystopian society, where people are buying tickets on spaceships to live off-world on distant planets, but in truth just get cremated. And 1976's movie "Logan's Run" has its own fake-paradise myth, where people just get killed, while celebrating their demise. But this episode has actually an intellectual sibling in another Voyager episode, being "Emanations" from Season 1.

Three Dalmations

I love that there is no long, convoluted "why are these dreams happening?" mystery, Chakotay immediately says "It probably have something to do with the telepaths on board", the first time B'Elanna tells him she's having dreams. One of my favourite things about Voyager is that the crew is smart and (usually) not behind the viewer in understanding the trope that their episode is doing.

#MaxwellDidNothingWrong

Everyone always asks about what really happened to the regressives, but no one ever asks what the regressives really did to make a whole world turn on them and gather in crowds to cheer at their eraser.

David Kirk

I agree with Josh that they should have kept it to just pushing the regressive people out which is morally bad by itself and interesting to explore. As others have commented, the Germans did try very hard to fully cover up the Holocaust. Some German civilians in nearby towns did know what was happening and didn't care because of the extensive anti-semitism of the time.

Sony

Free Palestine! 🇵🇸

ShazD

This episode is nothing like Logan's Run in its themes. This is clearly directly inspired by Nazi Germany.

ShazD

This is an objectively good episode no!?

ShazD

Because this is a tv show and not real life and clearly the writers intended for the memories to be "legit" therefore they are.

Muddyn

Star Trek's first Holocaust Episode where the Holocaust isn't happening, or being prevented or something like that, but where there is a society that did one, and they got away with it. interesting episode, clearly A-Tier, maybe S-Tier even. but of course Alex misses the point entirely, No, this is not about Colonization, the regressives are a part of their species, they just refuse to advance technologically. the human equivalent would be the amish.

Badmiral Burgess

Doesn’t belong here. go to palatine and help them instead of a cookie cutter comment online!

Tim Nikiforovs

We saw no evidence AFAIK that Enarans can send "fake" memories, and what would Mirrel's motivation be for doing that be? The Doctor seemed convinced they were legit memories and not dreams. That would seem reason enough to at least give Torres the benefit of the doubt. It's not like trade with 1 starship is going to mean that much to a whole planet, so cancelling trade and shore leave barely affects them. I think Janeway just understood there was nothing they could do about it and it was just best to move on, which was the right call.

Tim Nikiforovs

And the actress who played the old woman here was also in Violations. She's still alive at 101 today.

Tim Nikiforovs

The better analogy would be to the Amish. And considering we got by for hundreds of thousands of years without vaccines or modern tech without wiping ourselves out, I'm sure the regressives could live a couple centuries behind technologically without suddenly dying off. Add to that the fact we saw the method of execution Dathan described which Jareth denied, I think it's pretty clear they were massacred.

ShazD

The way they make up their own plots in their head sometimes is baffling. "Clearly they're colonizers (colonists btw) and the regressives are an alien species they are removing from the planet they're colonizing". Where did you hear any of that in the episode??

Jonathan Miller

Excellent Episode. A. Maybe S. And Im a Voyager hater. Totally never saw this one before. Excellent Holocaust episode but it is a surprise. Really supports the reality that any society can succumb to horrific actions. Forced resettlement is bad, but not on the same level as extermination but it often leads to just that. Often forced resettlement has been a smokescreen for mass murder . . . obviously this is how Germany did it-- your neighbors are just being "resettled to the East." I genuinely appreciate the ending too. Janeway's measured support. They are NOT in position to enforce morality on this alien society BUT they will break ties and also revealed at least to someone what happened. My only disappointment is I assume we never hear of this again (I don't know as I only watched occasionally Voyager episodes/ maybe half). I want to see the woman's reaction at the end. I'd love to see the society have to reconcile their history.

Muddyn

Its because of the award speech. The father spoke abou these young cadets paving the way for interstellar colonization. So the C-word was said and so the white guilt neurons were activated.

Doug

I can't believe you guys were able to recognize that was Chip Esten from Whose Line. I love that show and I still would have never recognized him here.

Tim Nikiforovs

This guy said to his daughter "you are sheltering regressives beneath your floorboards, are you not" Definitely a strong episode compared to a lot of early S3. B+ if not A tier. I agree with the assessment that Torres/Roxann tends to get the most consistently good scripts to work with, and I find she's generally good at delivering in the acting department. There might be a mediocre/bad B'Elanna episode I'm not remembering right now, but the fact I can't recall it offhand says something given most of the other characters have at least one terrible episode I can remember instantly. Elogium/Kes, Tattoo/Chakotay, Twisted/Neelix, and that's just thus far. I can understand the confusion between these aliens and the ones from Ex Post Facto. The names are both vowel heavy and somewhat similar sounding, Banean/Enaran. The makeup bears some general similarity too. I think the Baneans from EPF were a better design though. They were going for an avian aesthetic there, having both hair and feathers. The Enaran makeup is honestly kind of lazy. They clearly just used foam mesh like you'll sometimes see wrapped around fruit at the grocery store, and then dyed it and stuck it around the hairline. Interestingly we don't see any regressives with that mesh, as they're all wearing bandanas or head wraps of some sort. Probably just to save on budget/time. Also hate to bring it up again, but Banea should be 2 years in the rear view mirror at this point. Then again the fact the Kazon were on their tail for so long does diminish that argument. As to the Holocaust themes, they definitely resonate more as an adult having seen and understood much more of the associated subject matter. As a kid this stood out more as a "it's Star Trek, dad!" kind of episode. It's competently executed, if a little tame. I wouldn't say it's as impactful with it's message as Chain of Command was tackling torture, The Drumhead with judicial overreach, or frankly Duet which took on very much similar subject matter. For that reason, it isn't an S. Marritza was excellent of someone who was witness to the oppression and too cowardly to do anything to stop it. Korenna took a much more active part in the genocide and arguably did far less to rectify it, so I don't find her nearly as effective. What I will give the episode credit for it providing the unique perspective of a 3rd party coming across evidence of the genocide decades after the fact and asking the question "what do you do about it". I think realistically, Janeway was right. They have no means to change what happened or prove who was guilty. And even if they could, if the Enarans don't want to face their own past, are they going to prosecute anyone? Sure if Voyager's vastly greater speed is any indication, they're decades or centuries ahead technologically, but even if that extends to weapons, what are they going to do? Bomb the planet? I like that Janeway believed Torres, but there's what you know and what you can prove. Voyager has no jurisdiction on Enara, and no doubt any investigation would be shut down fast. At least she let B'Elanna plant a seed to reveal the truth. Ultimately if there's even going to be justice for what happened, it's the Enarans themselves who have to decide to pursue it.

Todd

Nice shot of Chakotay's office this episode. I must have missed this episode originally. It's very well done. It's a lot of story and Roxann really carries the episode well.

Scarpad’s Domain

This episode is more relevant in 2026 than it was in 1995